I have no idea who is reporting or whether it is true.. Ted Belman
Thursday, March 8, 2012, 13:42 Beijing
“The crisis is at its end” is no longer a relieving statement made by some political analysts, as the crisis is really close to its end. Baba Amro is now under the control of the Syrian army… and so are the armed groups of which a big number escaped to the Lebanese borders dubbing their retreat “tactical”.
Around 700 Arab and Western gunmen surrendered in Baba Amro, well-informed sources told Al-Manar website, adding that “huge and critical surprises will be uncovered in the coming few days… such as the kinds of arms seized, as well as the military tactics the armed groups followed, and the sides that supervised the operations.”
The sources further assured to the news website that the security operation in Homs will be over in a maximum of five to eight days.
Weapons from Israel used for First Time in Baba Amro
For his part, Syrian expert in strategic affairs Salim Harba pointed out that Baba Amro neighborhood and the areas surrounding it were emptied from the armed groups’ organizational as well as command structures with minimum army and civilian casualties, as the area was mainly concentrated by gunmen.
Speaking to Al-Manar website, Harba said that “the captured gunmen held Arab nationalities, including Gulf, Iraqi, and Lebanese… among them were also Qatari intelligence agents and non-Arab fighters from Afghanistan, Turkey, and some European countries like France.
“The Syrian army also uncovered tunnels and equipments there,” he added, pointing out that “advanced Israeli, European, and American arms that have not yet been tested in the countries of manufacture, in addition to Israeli grenades, night binoculars, and communication systems were confiscated by the security forces.”
Harba went on saying that “communication stations where established on the Lebanese borders to oversee the military operations in Baba Amro, and to ensure contact between field commanders and a coordination office led by members of information in the Qatari capital Doha.”
He clarified that “the escape of British journalists from Homs through the Lebanese-Syrian borders was the result of this coordination.”
In parallel, the Syrian strategic expert revealed that “the communication stations were being operated by Lebanese figures; some of them were members of the Future parliamentary bloc,” and considered that “these figures worked on transforming Wadi Khaled region into a strategic depth for Baba Amro.”
Mossad, Blackwater Directed from Qatar Operations in Homs
Additionally, Salim Harba revealed to Al-Manar website that “a coordination office was established in Qatar under American-Gulf sponsorship. The office includes American, French, and Gulf –specifically from Qatar and Saudi Arabia- intelligence agents, as well as CIA, Mossad, and Blackwater agents and members of the Syrian Transitional Council.”
“Qatar has also made deals with Israeli and American companies to arm the armed groups, and Gulf countries have been financing the agreements,” he added.
The Syrian expert pointed out that “the significance of the security operation in Homs is due to the high expectations that regional and international sides had from the armed gangs in Baba Amro … they wanted Homs to be turned into a new Benghazi.”
Indicating that the operation was implemented with high professionalism and accuracy, Harba reassured that documents will be exposed at the right time.
“The authority will not reveal everything it has now… the Syrian security forces have documents and confessions that could harm everyone who conspired against Syria, and could make a security and political change, not just on the internal Syrian level, but also on the regional level,” he assured.
In the same context, Harba considered that all the conferences and meetings by what he referred to as the “enemies of Syria” were aimed at paving the way for an American initiative under a “humanitarian” title.
He concluded: “At the end, the US will submit to the Russian initiative after it realized that confrontations will only result in its defeat, and that the Syrian regime is still strong enough to deal with any conspiracy.”
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Thanks, It sounds like just some miscommunication. I just co-incidentally had been studying Old Western Culture and realized “Hey this is honour killing” or actually not the killing itself but the cultural condition.
Actually, this is a film that is just the opposite of sanitized and superficial. It was modeled on much historical records (which John Ford was constantly reading) and quite cutting edge to expose the more truthful side and hard edge of Old Western Culture. The term in popular culture now is ‘honour killings’ because we see much of it from Muslims but actually this is just part of the fear of miscegenation and racism in the human race. It applies to all cultures and all human beings . It also extends of course to quite a bit of white-black relations in America.
The films sources could have come from any number of historical sources. For instance in Texas there wee tens of thousands of kidnappings.
One example is the Parker family in Texas 1836 in which fiver children were kidnapped and eventually recovered. The status of these returnees and others became “anomalous” (which means in modern terms they had brought dishonor) as Historian FR French describes:
So there is it is: racial hatred and miscegenation hatred of that day and the situation that did exist… and apparently still do exist 😉
This was my point and to point out the universality of human experience as I had a flash of insight but now I realize it’s even wider than than that with the history of miscegenation laws in the States so I didn’t even get started. I am not even the status of amateur in this study yet.
Sorry I went over the top in my counter-rebuttal but apparently now by knowing too much about history I am a Islamist Apologist as well as it seems an ‘Injun Apologist”.
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It’s a dangerous atmosphere here, something like being in a culvert outside Sirte last October
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But I wonder , you know, “even General Yaalon is willing to make peace with the Pals, you know, carrot in one hand, stick in the other.
I’m sure to some people that makes him an Islamist Apologist.
Bernard Ross, you don’t need to apologize. There were no honor killings of daughters and wives and other female relatives by white men in the old west. Just historical revisionism on the part of the apologists for islam.
It never happened. Like he said, it was just a movie. It sounds like you are an apologist for islam.
And I’m sick of hearing about the supposedly innocent, peaceful Indians. They killed each other in tribal warfare.
Dear Max, first let me apologise for my post. I did not mean for it to be an attack or a denial of your position. In fact, I have no problem beleiving the possibility of “white men honour killings” as they were descended from the same culture that killed Jews in Europe for 2000 years. Although it may be better than nothing I have personally found that hollywood versions of events are sanitized and superficial, although often well intentioned with the basic intellectual argument coming through.
Welcome the real world of totally missing reality.
This particular movie depicted a theme of REAL life in the old West.
I din’t say the fiction was real, the fiction was literature and pointed to what the reality was.
Come spell it with me.—]
D-E-N-I-A-L
The Truth of your comment is reveals that you prefer to keep you Hollywood Myths of the Old West rather than find out the real old culture.
Oh yes Joe,it is so, Even white men in Texas practiced honour killing.
Get a tougher skin.
Max, I think real life teaches different themes from hollywood movies.
Agreed. Perhaps that is Israel’s perspective on hamas/gaza. Maintain the status quo, no unification of west bank and gaza, always a “threat” firing rockets. Otherwise why not wipe them out?
Sadly in Syria one side has to win. Hope the fighting never ends. Muslims killing muslims!!! love it
It’s interesting about the universality of human experience and myth.
I just re-watched John Ford’s “The Searchers” starring John Wayne. There was much bigotry against Native Americans in the Old West and honour killing was quite common!!! This dark side ,quite prevalent is not often exposed in film.
In the movie John Wayne and yet another white female character believe that white women, who had been abducted , raped and made to live with the ‘Indians’ -should be killed because they had been ‘tainted ‘ by sleeping/having sex with a ‘buck’.
Specifically if they were abducted as children, they need to be rescued before ‘marrying age ‘ but if that fails then…killed!
In the movie John Wayne eventually redeems himself and stops trying to kill his niece (which just might be his illegitimate daughter – John Ford never clarifies) but in the book the character he plays has no such redemption.
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This was part of the ‘Code of the West’ – “Honour Killing”
Go figure!
er..that was a typo s/b: “horse to water” and all that 😉
And it was so short too…. 🙁
Glad you like it, I thought it was pretty good myself. Too bad you won’t learn the lesson though…hore to water and all that…
Yes, It is , same process – take your blinders off. I can tell you, Holocaust is something I know about.
That’s self-destructive bigotry. All humans are the same family, everyone is an Arab , everyone is a Jew – the disease is religion, all religion , not humans.
Max killing hundreds or several thousands is not a holocaust. From our vantage point, I love it when Arabs kill each other may they succeeed beyond our most optimistic fantasies.
The best scenario for Israel would be perpetual internal/and external resistance to Assad that keeps him busy, drains his treasury and keeps him tied down, tied up and always weak but in power. I believe any alternative to Assad is worse for us than Assad himself.
I’ve seen reports of foreign fighters from Libya (CIA TRAINED AND EQUIPPED) running around killing everything in sight ( like the Death Squads in Algeria and South America) Seen reports of groups equipped with uzi’s as well.
There are reports like: “FALSE FLAG ALERT – Syrian Sources Warn: Al Jazeera to Claim 17 Children Killed by Assad Forces; Kids are Already Dead, Slain by Nato Death Squads to Induce Hysteria at “Friends Of Syria” Conference in Tunisia.
One thing seems evident that the rebellion against Assad is sponsored by Western Interests which probably includes Israel’s Mossad, and is not homegrown. Russians and Iranians seem to be more adept in their support for Assad than the US and NATO in toppling him.
That’s really deep Max.
Looks like another tragedy , another local Holocaust.
Evil scores again and wins one over humanity.
Ant the rest of humanity sits back once again mired in internecine mindlessness and lets it all happen.
The species is a big fail and about to win the Species Darwin award.
‘Bright skies at night means Darwin’s Delight’