Is a Pres Trump a threat or a promise

By Ted Belman

Daniel Pipes recently quit the GOP because it nominated Trump. Many of my colleagues in the right wing blogosphere agreed saying he speaks for most Jews. Then Pipes posted a column on the blowback he received.

I replied that he and most Jews are wrong.  I was quite surprised how hard nosed some of them were in rejecting Trump expecting Trump to kiss their asses or at least their ring.

I replied:

The primaries are over. The train has left the station, whether you were on board or not. Just as every candidate for the nomination agreed to support the victor, so should you all.

The issue is not whether Trump will support what you want but whether you will support what the vast majority of Trump supporters want.
Besides, Trump has the best chance of winning. That’s why we voted for him. The GOP was a big disappointment as the loyal opposition. We don’t want them to call the shots.

I decided to highlight those parts of the speech that I really liked. I might add that he made no mention of the threat of global warming or the environment which I appreciated.

In 2009, pre-Hillary, ISIS was not even on the map. Libya was stable. Egypt was peaceful. Iraq had seen a big reduction in violence. Iran was being choked by sanctions. Syria was somewhat under control.

After four years of Hillary Clinton, what do we have? ISIS has spread across the region and the entire world. Libya is in ruins, and our ambassador and his staff were left helpless to die at the hands of savage killers. Egypt was turned over to the radical Muslim Brotherhood, forcing the military to retake control. Iraq is in chaos. Iran is on the path to nuclear weapons. Syria is engulfed in a civil war and a refugee crisis that now threatens the West. After 15 years of wars in the Middle East, after trillions of dollars spent and thousands of lives lost, the situation is worse than it has ever been before.
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Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo
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I am the law and order candidate.
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I will do everything in my power to protect our LGBTQ citizens from the violence and oppression of a hateful foreign ideology.
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We must abandon the failed policy of nation- building and regime change that Hillary Clinton pushed in Iraq, Libya, in Egypt, and Syria.
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We must work with all of our allies who share our goal of destroying ISIS and stamping out Islamic terrorism and doing it now, doing it quickly. We’re going to win. We’re going to win fast. This includes working with our greatest ally in the region, the state of Israel.
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Lastly, and very importantly, we must immediately suspend immigration from any nation that has been compromised by terrorism until such time as proven vetting mechanisms have been put in place. We don’t want them in our country.

I only want to admit individuals into our country who will support our values and love our people. Anyone who endorses violence, hatred or oppression is not welcome in our country and never ever will be.
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We are going to build a great border wall to stop illegal immigration, to stop the gangs and the violence, and to stop the drugs from pouring into our communities.
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Americans want relief from uncontrolled immigration
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Then we are going to deal with the issue of regulation, one of the greatest job killers of them all. Excessive regulation is costing our country as much as $2 trillion a year, and we will end it very quickly.
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We are going to lift the restrictions on the production of American energy. This will produce more than $20 trillion in job-creating economic activity over the next four decades.

Our steelworkers and our miners are going back to work again.
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We will repeal and replace disastrous Obamacare.
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July 23, 2016 | 94 Comments »

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  1. Boldeagle Said:

    I’m not the only one thinking of this conundrum., most everyone who cares is wondering who should be the next President. Once you get past, “neither”, I always end up with Trump.

    I never had a conundrum because I quickly got past Trumps style of delivery and researched the meat and potatoes. Once I ignored the obvious media spin which was almost always wrong, it was a no brainer, not because Hillary is so bad but because Trump is better than all the other pols running when viewed objectively without prejudice and spin.

    Boldeagle Said:

    Trump is unknown and some of his statements make me wince.

    Trump is only unknown to those who rely on media spin which has been enormously biased from both sides, for good reason. Trump has a record of 4 or 5 decades in business and projects when checked out that prove his abilities. The greatest evidence first hand of his competency with areas outside his normal pursuits is the way in which he completely, thoroughly and massively massacred his primary opponents AND the enormous media against him. That was no accident.
    His style makes most folks wince, but that is a personal prejudice which obfuscates the substance of the issues. He doesn’t feel right to many because he doesn’t care about that or how they “feel”… unlike the others he is not selling an image. What you see is what you get. He is simply a very successful, very competent, very smart individual who accurately diagnoses our problems and offers workable solutions without any PC aura like every other pol. The fact that no other pol of either party could identify the muslim terror problem and give a simple solution that favors and protects american lives first, exclusive of other factors… shows that his interest is not to patronize and pander. He does what I want: identifies the problems and the solutions without fluff, accurately!
    Boldeagle Said:

    However he has the steady hand of Pence to guide him through government,

    He needs no steady hand to guide him, he seeks subordinates who will navigate his policies through the gov bureaucracy. He wont be there to guide them… he will tell them what he wants and give them the job to do it. If they cant navigate through and accomplish the task he will get someone else. Mike Pence is there in my opinion primarily to satisfy the conservative wing of the party. Trump has been donating to and manipulating politicians for decades, he knows what makes them tick… their job is to get his policies through.
    Boldeagle Said:

    He has a strong personal support group of family and sound thinking Republicans, if he takes advantage.

    You sound like someone who has been taking their perspectives from the media second hand. Trump needs no help, he knows how to pick people to do the job he wants. He will tell them what he wants and his only criteria will be, as in business, that they succeed in implementing his policies….. if not, he will get someone else for the job, like in business.
    I see no gamble with Trump… however, I do see that as a businessman he will not accomplish, nor expect to accomplish all that he sets out to accomplish. Like any other project he will adjust his goals, tactics, strategies to the scenario which unfolds. When he adjusts his goal he will not seek to cover it up or double down on protecting his image, he will simply change it and explain why….. just like any other successful businessman who is not a pol.

  2. sootysmum Said:

    Trump may be a good business man but he is not a politician

    for a guy who is not a politician he completely routed in a massacre all the GOP and conservative establishment candidates. As a successful businessman Donald is a fast learner, gets a quick grasp on the situation and has an uncanny knack at bottom lining a problem and solution in a single sentence……. which is a characteristic of successful businessmen. He also routed the main stream media. Donald continues to be enormously underated which is why I expect him to win by a landslide. My bet is that he has worked out the timing of the leaks which will unfold right up to the election day. Donalds style and delivery throws folks off until they understand his MO.
    sootysmum Said:

    My major concern is Trump’s lack of interest in the environment.

    I also have that concern, but I do not make assumptions based on pre judgments:
    sootysmum Said:

    he will sell out wildlife and allow fracking etc which will cause and add to global warming.

    Global warming has been deserted by its own initial proponents. I cannot be sure he will sell out wildlife.. I dont think he is a predictable ideologue.
    sootysmum Said:

    This is the problem with someone who will be owned by big business.

    I beleive this is a mistaken assumption. I believe that he is, and considers himself, a successful businessman apart from the other usual crowd. I think he considers himself in competition with them and more importantly a patriot. He made his success outside of relying on that crowd and owes them nothing. However, I expect him to make pro business decisions.

  3. CheetaLG Said:

    paying attention to comments from, among others, yamit82.

    Our friend yamit82 is somewhat like sipping Bourbon. A sip or two is lovely, any more and you are left reeling.

  4. yamit82 Said:

    The visions of small government and fiscal conservatism is a model for unemployment and depression…..

    I wish I could resurrect Milton Fridman for a week or so you two could exchange your opinions here.
    I’m a newbie on this site, been reading comments for quite a while now specifically paying attention to comments from, among others, yamit82.

  5. Hillary comes up craps she a known proven corrupt failure.

    Trump is an opportunity for improvement.

  6. @ honeybee:
    There is a long litany of blatant anti-Trump lies. They seem mainly designed for parroting by the zombies. But it’s useless to argue rationally about them: “A man convinced against his will; Is of the same opinion still”.

  7. Boldeagle Said:

    truly anti Semitic

    Her son-in-law although Jewish is apparently left-far left!!!
    All that explains the Huma connection to brother and sister HOOD!
    For BHO, the alliance with B & S hood was natural.

  8. Trump is a gamble, Clinton is a risk.

    I’m not the only one thinking of this conundrum., most everyone who cares is wondering who should be the next President. Once you get past, “neither”, I always end up with Trump.

    He has not caused ISIS, the 2008 meltdown, Syria or a host of other problems and yet he is being crucified for nothing more that making common sense statements, whether you agree with them or not.

    Clinton is the true racist, truly anti Semitic (according to Dick Morris who worked with her for many years) and a liar since the beginning of time. She is also a blackmail possibility both for her emails and her love life over the past 40 years which has nothing to do with her husband. She has been in the Palestinian camp forever, hugging Suha Arafat, being so very close to Huma Abedin. Never mind her saying she supports Israel, it’s a fraud. The man nominated for VP was one of those who walked out of Netanyahu’s talk on Iran and himself has supported Hamas and other anti Israel people in the state of Virginia. There is no ambiguity here.

    Trump is unknown and some of his statements make me wince. However he has the steady hand of Pence to guide him through government, if he takes advantage. He has a strong personal support group of family and sound thinking Republicans, if he takes advantage.

    When all is said and done, anyone who supports Israel or the Jewish people should end up supporting Trump. The option is just to difficult to conceive and would result in another four years where Israel would be expected to give up much in return for nothing.

  9. LtCol Howard Said:

    the Haiti relief operation

    Yawl clever boys couldn’t tell from the minute that Bush and Clinton were holding hands and weeping over the Haitians and begging for monies, that whole damn thing was a scam.

  10. Welcome back Yamit 82. I always enjoy and appreciate your comments. thank you for the link to “Hillary’s cash”.

    I am personally familiar with the details of both the Haiti relief operation and the Canadian/US uranium operation and I can endorse every word on those 2 subjects in this documentary. Further, while the author has been vilified ,there have been no counter arguments which undercut any portion of his claims or any significant aspect of his supporting materials .

    [As a side note I am also familiar with the great reluctance (almost a cover-up) by the US government and by the US media to acknowledge the rapid, substantial, and effective relief operation mounted by Israel. This even included a prominent Jewish educator publicly accusing then Israeli ambassador Michael Oren of lying when Orin accurately described the Israeli response.]

    I found the time I spent watching this video well invested.

  11. Trump may be a good business man but he is not a politician and that is surprising, he should be good at negotiations.

    My major concern is Trump’s lack of interest in the environment. I suspect that he will sell out wildlife and allow fracking etc which will cause and add to global warming. This is the problem with someone who will be owned by big business.

  12. Leaked Emails Show DNC Officials Planned Anti-Trump Protests

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/24/leaked-emails-show-dnc-officials-planned-anti-trump-protests/#ixzz4FLENj2FS

    I beleive that the swarm of anti semitic trolls to Donald supporting sites are also from the dem party… they have been trying to pin an anti semitic label on him from the beginning and will stoop to any means…. like those false flag trolls which they employ. Its just taqiyya, a muslim tactic fully embraced by the dem party where all the muslim anti semites and terrorists find their home….. just one more outcome of the leftist muslim alliance.

    FYI, I find that the Times of Israel prints lots of articles with headlines which intimate anti semitic connections with Trump… they appear to be on the payroll.

  13. watsa46 Said:

    @ bernard ross:U missed the point.
    I am specifically comparing DT and HC!
      

    I understood and agree with your point. I am emphasizing that a businessman following the letter of the law and exploiting that letter to his advantage is no criticism. the ones who should be criticized for loopholes are the pols who created them AND were being paid by us, unlike Donald who owed us NOTHING. The IRS calls the loopholes tax avoidance as opposed to tax evasion. As a businessman Donald followed the law as written by his current adversaries.

  14. @ Economist: However some consider QE as a form of currency manipulation.

    The Iranian UAV over North of Israel a few weeks ago should instill a sense of extreme caution when IL shares her security technology EVEN to the US!!! They seem UN-capable to do what is right to protect high tech secrets.
    Weakening America appears to have been a BHO important goal.

  15. @ Economist:

    Stupid Americans allowed in the name of free trade Dumping, like steel and a myriad of other raw and finished materials and products….. Is there any current mfg. of TV sets etrc in America? I remember RCA, Zenith, Philco, Motorola and Admiral all gone mostly to the then imports of Jap electronics…. I am for trade and as long as it’s really competitive and let the best win…. American greed and myopia were as much to blame but the competition should be fair on a level playing field. The American government owes it’s people and workers some protection against unfair trade weighted against American companies and American workers…. Re: currency manipulation 🙂 What do you call
    Quantitative easing???? Everybody is doing this in some form and degree, it’s a global currency war of sorts.

    BTW note that the $3 billion Israel receives per-annum from the US is about the same as it was after Yom Kippur war. Yet due to dollar inflation, today’s $3 billion is worth about 1.2 billion in 1983 dollars. Not much. Too little to sacrifice our autonomy, sovereignty and or political independence.

    WW2 found at it’s beginning America with a less than bare bones military…. yet in two years we were supplying our allies in addition to our own rapid buildup of of forces and military equipment from A-Z nothing had to be imported down to the smallest screw… America in the last 40 years has lost most of it’s Industrial base and if a similar situation were to arise today I don’t think America could rise to the occasion…. As the largest consumer market in the world I am not afraid of a trade war… America holds the cards all it needs is to play them intelligently without the undue pressure by unpatriotic vested interests in Globalization.

  16. @ yamit82:One of the more astute summaries of free trade I’ve read is:”Everybody gets a discount and some people lose their jobs.” When the job loss is a greater threat to the national polity than the discount is beneficial, it’s time to consider, as Trump suggests, harder negotiation, especially when confronted by currency manipulation.

  17. The GOP should feel lucky to have DT. For once in more than hundred years perhaps the future US President has no connection whatsoever with the lands of the sands.
    The flourishing of the self-serving and selfish elitogarchie finds its roots in the oil from the lands of the sands.

  18. Ted got it right about the arrogance of Establishment Jews and their silly expectation that Trump will ‘kiss their asses or at least their ring’.

    Better the status quo Judenrat dhimmitude we know (and the lucrative contracts that our ‘leaders’ & their supporters get) than the genuine freedom and sovereignty we could have.