INTO THE FRAY: The UN vote on Jerusalem: A disturbing diplomatic debacle

By MARTIN SHERMAN

When India supports an anti-Israel resolution, while Croatia, Romania, and Ukraine do not—invoking ingrained anti-Semitism rings somewhat hollow, and alternative explanations are called for

The General Assembly …[a]ffirms that any decisions and actions which purport to have altered the character, status or demographic composition of the Holy City of Jerusalem have no legal effect, are null and void and must be rescinded … and in this regard, calls upon all States to refrain from the establishment of diplomatic missions in the Holy City of Jerusalem—Excerpt from UN General Assembly resolution ES-10/L.22, December 21, 2017 proposed by Yemen and Turkey, demanding that the US retract its decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

The U.N. General Assembly on Thursday overwhelmingly passed a measure rejecting the Trump administration’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, a stunning rebuke of a U.S. decision that allies and adversaries alike warned would undermine prospects for peace – Washington Post, December 21, 2017

A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individuallyIf Algeria introduced a resolution declaring that the earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would pass by a vote of 164 to 13 with 26 abstentions Abba Eban, Israel’s Foreign Minister, 1966-74.

 On Thursday, December 21, 2017, the world—almost unanimously—voted against the Jews and their nation-state, Israel.

Reprehensible resolution

On that day, the United Nations General Assembly, in an Emergency Session, voted by an overwhelming majority in favor of a resolution so absurd that it would be inconceivable in almost any other context in which Jews were not those singled out by it for rebuke.

It was a reprehensible resolution!

Indeed, it flew in the face of historical truth, current reality and any ethical standard of common decency.

Under any other circumstances, it would be unthinkable that a sovereign country would be denied the right to determine which city should serve as its capital—especially when that city is inseparably associated with its history, predating the existence of virtually all its UN critics. Similarly, under any other circumstances it would be inconceivable that another sovereign nation would be singled out for reprimand for recognizing such historical association and acknowledging the city as the designated capital of that country.

To make the phenomenon even more absurd, the alleged rationale for the resolution was that it was designed to prevent prejudging the outcome of the decades-long dispute between Arab and Jew for control over the Holy Land, in general, and over Jerusalem, in particular—and keep open the possibility of somehow resolving the conflict by the establishment of a Judeophobic, homophobic, misogynistic Muslim-majority tyranny in the areas (including the eastern section of Jerusalem) lost by Jordan in 1967 in its failed attempt to annihilate the Jewish state.

Go figure!

Double disgrace

The decision—affirmed by 128 member states and opposed by 9, with 35 abstaining and 21 absenting themselves from the vote—to deem US recognition of Jerusalem (albeit within undefined borders) “null and void” was a double disgrace.

Firstly, it was a mark of shame for all the countries that did not oppose it—including those who abstained and/or absented themselves from the vote. For there is scarcely more honor in refraining from such an ignominious motion than there is in supporting it—especially when such feigned neutrality ensures its overwhelming endorsement.

But there was another element of disgrace attached to the results of UN vote on Jerusalem, and it is one that Israel, itself, must bear—or at least one that those charged with formulating and executing Israel’s strategic diplomacy (assuming any existence thereof) must bear.

 

For the results of vote reflect a devastating failure of Israeli diplomacy–despite the unwavering backing of the most powerful UN member state, the US.

 

Indeed, had Israel, over the past near-decade, since the so-called Israeli “Right” regained the reins of power, conducted an effective and adequately funded strategic diplomatic offensive, this kind of international rejection of elementary Jewish rights would have been unthinkable.

 

I realize that many will find this a highly contentious contention—but I am convinced of its validity and the urgent need to address the peril it portends.

 

Raining on the parade: What if Hillary had won?
Of course, I do not wish to “rain on the parade” and diminish the significance of the diplomatic victory entailed in the Trump administration’s decision to acknowledge the indisputable facts on the ground and recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital—and to set in motion preparations to transfer the US embassy to the city.

 

However, this fortunate outcome is hardly the result of Israel’s diplomatic strategy, but rather the unexpected outcome of the 2016 presidential election in the US.

 

Indeed, one shudders to think of what would have happened, if ,as widely predicted, Hillary Clinton had won—especially given the precedent set by the Obama-administration in withholding the US veto against a virulently anti-Israeli resolution, allowing it to pass unopposed in the Security Council in December 2016. After all, it is far from implausible that, if the elections has gone as expected, Israel would have been facing a very different, and far more hostile, global environment—with the prospect of international sanctions, not merely international censure, becoming increasingly tangible.

 

Accordingly, with so much at stake, it hardly seems a reasonable or responsible policy to leave such fateful issues dependent on the fortuitous workings of chance. So, perhaps the most important lesson to be derived from the dismal UN vote last week, is something that should have been painfully obvious for years—but sadly has not been: Israel needs to adopt a far more robust and proactive posture in determining is international stature among the nations of the world.

 

Cold comfort

For the results of vote were in fact far worse than the mere numerical tally—in itself dismaying enough—would suggest.

 

For the fact that nine nations voted against the resolution is cold comfort indeed. After all, out of those nine, two were Israel and the US themselves, against whom resolution was directed. Of the remaining seven, a majority—four—were tiny and remote islands in the Pacific (Nauru, Palau, the Marshall Islands and Micronesia), whose combined population is less than 200,000, and whose total area comprises under1500 sq km. The remaining three—Togo, Guatemala and Honduras—are, with all due respect, not countries that marshal huge international influence.

 

Accordingly, it would, in large measure, be accurate to admit that Israel and the Trump administration were left in splendid isolation against the entire world. This should be a matter of serious concern—for there is little guarantee as to the durability of the Trump incumbency or of the political proclivity of any potential successor.

 

This, then, is a totally unacceptable situation and one on which Israel can ill-afford to be either complacent or fatalistic—complacent in the sense that the resolution has no practical effect and thus there no need for serious concern; fatalistic in the sense that because of inherent anti-Semitism, the dice is inevitably “loaded” against Israel and hence, there is no point in serious concern.

 

Both these claims should be resolutely rejected.

 

Inexcusably and inexplicably remiss

 

For years Israel has been inexcusably and inexplicably remiss in presenting its case to the world and equally remiss in undermining and discrediting that of its Arab adversaries.

 

This dangerous disregard is best reflected by two grave lacunae: (a) the hopelessly inadequate resources devoted to Israeli diplomacy in general and to public diplomacy in particular; and (b) Israel’s official embrace of “Palestinian nationhood” and its consequent reluctance to delegitimize the fallacious narrative on which it is based, and the mendacious myths that underpin it.

 

This dereliction of diplomatic duty is having dire consequences on several levels. Arguably, among the two most severe are the growing threat to bi-partisan backing Israel has traditionally enjoyed in the US, and the disturbing erosion of support among the younger generation (i.e. tomorrow’s leaders)—even within the generally overwhelming pro-Israel Evangelical community

 

For over more than half-a-decade I have warned, constantly and consistently, of the potential perils entailed in this ongoing mindless neglect of the indispensable role  public diplomacy has in the nation’s strategic arsenal, and how defeat in the field of public opinion is liable to lead to setbacks on other, more tangible, battlefields. I have urged that Israel dramatically upgrade the resources devoted to public diplomacy—on which it is currently spending,globally,less than a medium-large sized Israeli corporation would spend on promoting fast food and snacks! Indeed, I have called to allot 1% of state budget – one billion dollars—for a strategic public diplomacy offensive, designed to create a diplomatic “iron dome” to protect Israel from incoming barrages of delegitimization and demonization that precipitate the kind of debacle that occurred last week at the UN.

 

The stirring annals of Zionist endeavor

What makes a resolution voiding and nullifying Israel’s claim to Jerusalem as its capital particularly galling, is the total obfuscation—indeed, concealment—of the conditions that reigned in the city prior to it falling to Israel in the Six-Day War: When Arab Legion snipers, atop the walls of the old city, shot at random passers-by in the western sector of the city, when Jews were barred from entering the Jordanian controlled portions, when Jewish holy sites were desecrated, and when Jewish gravestones were used as building material. Yet no emergency session of the UN was convened to discuss and denounce these outrageous violations of religious and historic rights. Only today, when religious freedoms are scrupulously observed, does the international community find it fit to express its concern over the situation in the city.

 

But Israel has been partially complicit—at least passively—in permitting this perverse state of affairs to emerge—at least by default—and allowing pejorative connotations to be attached to the word “Zionism”.

After all, the rebirth of Jewish nationhood and the annals of Zionist endeavor are, undoubtedly, one of most stirring chapters of modern history. It is an enterprise that has achieved remarkable feats against impossible odds. Indeed, Zionism, as the national freedom movement of the Jewish people, has been the most successful of all national freedom movements in the last century. It has attained a combination of political independence, economic prosperity and individual liberties for its people, unmatched in virtually any other country born of the dissolution of the European empires. Beyond its borders, Israel has made amazing contributions to humanity – in medicine, agriculture, computing, communications. It has conducted remarkable humanitarian operations in disaster areas across the globe—from Nepal to Haiti.

 

Diplomatic incompetence not inherent anti-Semitism?

 

Yet instead of being held up as a model to be emulated, Zionism is being portrayed as a scourge to be denigrated.

 

The knee-jerk reaction to all this bitter enmity has been to attribute it to inherent and pervasive anti-Semitism. Now, while I do not want to dismiss—or even downplay—the pernicious impact of innate Judeophobia in many countries today, to attribute all, even most, anti-Israel animosity to it, is a little like searching under the light of a lamppost for the proverbial coin which was lost elsewhere in the dark,.
Indeed, as an explanation, it is a very partial one at best. For when a country like India, whose history is virtually devoid of any anti-Semitism, disappointingly supports the resolution, while countries like Croatia, Romania, and Ukraine, whose histories are replete with such infamy, do not, then invoking ingrained anti-Semitism rings somewhat hollow—and alternative, or at least supplementary, explanations are called for—like diplomatic incompetence for example.

 

The two, however, might not be totally unrelated. Indeed, as I have pointed out elsewhere “[c]ontinued impotence and incompetence in the (mis)conduct of Israel’s public diplomacy is becoming not only a strategic threat to the country but is beginning to imperil Jewish communities abroad.” For when the Jewish state allows itself to be so vilified, so too are those seen to be associated with it—i.e. the Jewish communities abroad.

 

“Israel…has vacated the battlefield of ideas”

 

In an incisive and insightful interview on Israel television several years ago, prominent British journalist, Melanie Phillips, excoriated Israel’s public diplomacy (hasbarah) as a “joke” and contended that in that, in the fight for world opinion, Israel had “vacated the battle field of ideas

 

Today’s leadership should heed her words, and launch a massive assault on international public opinion to ensure that the recent diplomatic debacle at the UN will in the future be impossible—or at least, highly, unlikely.

After all, no-one knows who the next White House incumbent will be—or when his/hers incumbency will begin…

 

Martin Sherman is the founder and executive director of the Israel Institute for Strategic Studies

 

 

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  1. @ yamit82:

    Very informative indeed…even if a few points are definitely ARCANE. About the pig, The experts have noticed that it’s the only prohibited animal mentioned twice in the Torah showing the importance of this ban; and the archaeologists have found that it was a cult figure for the Canaanite kingdoms, for which reason they attribute to it being banned. You put a different slant on it, but within the dictums. I didn’t know much of what you write, at least I’ve never heard it put that way before.

  2. @ yamit82:

    Well they wouldn’t be able to steal longhorns. I’ve read that even pumas and cougars are afraid to tackle them. If they see a man on foot they go after him…They cost almost nothing to keep as they forage like goats, range far afield, eat stuff that would kill normal cows, very resistant to disease and the meat is lean, very little fat therefore healthy. They keep rodents and crop destroyers away I think, also they weigh over 1000 lbs mostly healthy meat. I just recalled the idea was to crossbreed them with Israeli cattle. I’ve been seeing this blurb for about 7-8 years at least in a few outlets. I couldn’t understand why, after all the time he couldn’t collect $600.000, (like a bottomless pit) which is peanuts for a deal like that……..???? !!! That’s suspicious in itself. Maybe he has similar schemes going in a dozen different places…….

    (I used to read a lot of Edgar Wallace, and some plots involved the most ingenious “begging letter” schemes……….)

    Anyway I got no answers, so, although I liked the idea, let it drop. So enough of this.

  3. not that most of the above is to do with dr shermans op-ed a friend of mine couple of years ago diagnosed with TB (thought that was out of style eh) being a vegie was forced by the hospital to eat red and white meat as his body was lacking in PROTIEN, yes he took protein pills etc like the rest of the vegies but a weeks worth of pills did not add up to the PROTIEN in a roast beef meal.

  4. yamit82 Said:

    People have to eat meat. The moot issue of vegetarianism aside, people cannot live without meat. In order to save their own lives, people have to kill animals.

    “According to the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, an evidence-based review showed that a vegetarian diet is associated with a lower risk of death from ischemic heart disease. Vegetarians appear to have lower low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels, lower blood pressure and lower rates of hypertension and type 2 diabetes than meat eaters. Vegetarians also tend to have a lower body mass index, lower overall cancer rates and lower risk of chronic disease.

    But if your vegetarian co-worker is noshing greasy veggie burgers and fries every day for lunch, is he likely to be healthier than you, who always orders the grilled salmon? Definitely not!”

    https://www.webmd.com/diet/features/is-it-better-to-be-a-vegetarian#1

  5. @ yamit82:
    It’s not moot. That’s the whole point. If it’s unnecessary than it becomes unnecessary cruelty to animals.

    Is meat necessary? Or is meat necessary for everyone? Doesn’t the passage say that it is permissible to eat meat “if you crave it.”

    Before very recently, there never was a time anywhere, where meat consumptions were at these levels. It was an occasional treat, and so factory farming wasn’t commercially viable.

    It wouldn’t be quite so bad if we went back to small producer farming and animals at least led relatively comfortable lives before being killed. Factory farming, the mass killing of animals is a horror.

    It’s all about demand. Israel has a higher vegan and vegetarian population than any country but India. It’s growing everywhere. Even just eating meat less often helps.

    I haven’t eaten meat in 40 years. I haven’t been able to stay away from sea food and I still wear leather belt and shoes because I can’t find practical vegan alternatives in my size, but I found a vegan faux leather wallet made of cork. Had to pay $40 instead of the usual $3. That’s the big problem, whichever product is dominant will be cheaper.

    I call it voting with my stomach.

    Yes, if they are going to have cattle herds anyway, I can see that Longhorns would be better for all the reasons Robin cited.

    But, I’m just saying.

    “If you prick them, do they not bleed?”

    “Bambi Meats Godzilla” (1969)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXCUBVS4kfQ

  6. @ Edgar G.:

    Why is difficult to kill a deer painlessly, do they struggle too much, or it it their different nervous system. Al the Patriarchs and others for many years ate “venison”.

    Jews are not prohibited from eating pork specifically. The prohibition is a trivial consequence of the commandment, You shall not murder, which applies equally to humans and animals. Life is sacred, and murder is prohibited. Practical Judaism, however, recognizes that some killing is unavoidable. Sometimes, it is “kill or be killed,” and Judaism allows killing to save other lives. Jews can kill enemies and heinous criminals legally.

    People have to eat meat. The moot issue of vegetarianism aside, people cannot live without meat. In order to save their own lives, people have to kill animals. Hence Judaism makes an exception for three or four animals from the general prohibition of murder.

    It is not that some animals are prohibited for food. All animals are prohibited, but out of necessity an exception is made for three or four of them. A few other animals were included in the list of permitted animals later, and erroneously—they do not satisfy the very narrow criteria about hooves and chewing. Jews don’t eat humans, just as they don’t eat horses, camels, bears, pigs, and most other species.

    Animals earmarked for food are domesticated, with the later concession for gazelle. People give them life to take it later. This implication is derived from the kosher mode of slaughter, which is only applicable to domestic animals; it is practically impossible to catch gazelle with a trap and cut its throat in a precisely kosher manner.

    Judaism stipulates that animals must be killed painlessly. Murder—even of animals, even out of utter necessity—is still murder and must not be enjoyed; Judaism opposes recreational hunting.

    The choice of permitted animals is not accidental. Cows, goats, sheep, and gazelles are the folklore examples of stupidity. If we have to kill some animals, at least kill the least intellectually advanced. Similarly, Judaism prohibits scaleless sea creatures. All fish have at least some scales, and even shrimp have a scale-like chitin cover. The only truly scaleless sea creatures are sea mammals. They are intellectually advanced, and humans should not kill them for food. Similarly, swarming creatures are prohibited. The swarming creatures par excellence are ants and bees, incredibly smart beings.

    Similarly, creeping creatures are prohibited. Their prototype, the serpent, is the symbol of wisdom in Judaism and other cultures. Prohibition of pork has nothing to do with uncleanness. Horses are clean, but Jews do not eat them. Jewish children can play with pigs in a zoo just as they would play with horses. Judaism prohibits murdering animals, not playing with them or using them. Drinking camel’s milk is okay for the Jews just like eating honey produced by non-kosher bees. Jews must not derive benefits from pigs murdered by others, particularly by wearing pig leather clothes.

  7. @ Edgar G.:

    Long horns are difficult and aggressive less meat than other breeds and not as profitable. Israel has little real grazing land for them and that’s why we import most of our beef……Do you think for a moment that if Israel could profitably be self sufficient in cattle we wouldn’t be by now? Our cattle people are as good as any and on my Kibbutz I herded cattle a few hundred and it’s hard work….. You can’t have too many range cattle not enough land and Arabs steal many of them and the police do nothing to protect our farmers. They steal everything at huge financial costs and we can’t shoot the thieves unless you want to wind up in prison. Robin is full of shit and a hustler.

  8. @ yamit82:

    As a kid I used to buy books giving items like the longest rivers the highest mountains, the tallest buildings the….etc and was a fount of useless knowledge. Just mentioned it being a hobby. Your store of knowledge is far different and always interesting, if sometimes arcane.

    Why is difficult to kill a deer painlessly, do they struggle too much, or it it their different nervous system. Al the Patriarchs and others for many years ate “venison”.

  9. @ yamit82:

    This is more or less what I was feeling, and I share your attitude. He’s been doing this for many years. He painted glowing pictures of the steers, which were, in the main, accurate, all well known characteristics of the longhorn. He could have obtained the information for any western cowboy novel which mentions them, always with those exact attributes. And there’s Google…. He mentioned a panel of volunteer experts from prestigious sources, I examined it all carefully,especially the wording he used, and nothing was promised. It reminded me exactly of a Prospectus of a company ready to float shares, of which I’ve read many-but scantily done..

    I asked questions about the experts, their free contributions of time, how they would be transported, honorariums, and more, Then the killer I think, I asked for proof that there was range for the cattle to roam (they can walk 3 days to water, and back again and can eat cacti) and proof via copies of letters from these experts and others the whole project was resting on. I also think I asked if he (and others were salaried and how much, where the funds would be held, and how to avoid them being dissipated before the project got off the ground. etc…

    I asked, just like a potential investor would ask, which I was…….but..SILENCE….

  10. @ yamit82:

    This is more or less what I was feeling, and I share your attitude. He painted glowing pictures about the steers, which were, in the main, accurate, and all well known characteristics of the longhorn steer. He could have obtained the information for any western cowboy novel which mentions them, always with those exact attributes. And there’s Google…. He mentioned a panel of volunteer experts from prestigious sources, I examined it all carefully,especially the wording he used, and nothing was promised. It reminded me exactly of a Prospectus of a company ready to float shares, of which I’ve read many-but scantily done..

    I asked searching questions, about the experts, their free contributions of time, how they would be transported, honorariums, and more, I think, I asked for proof that there was range for the cattle to roam (they can walk 3 days to water, and back again and can eat cacti) and proof via copies of letters from these experts and others the whole project was resting on. I also think I asked if he (and others were salaried and how much, where the funds would be held, and how to avoid them being dissipated before the project got off the ground. etc…

    I asked, just like a potential investor would ask, which I was…….but..SILENCE….

  11. Michael S Said:

    South Korea hasn’t inoculated anyone against anthrax;

    They’ve just begun.
    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/south-korea-anthrax-vaccine/2017/12/27/id/833861/

    Michael S Said:

    South Korea has not done any evacuation drills;

    Found this:

    Could the US evacuate all of Seoul in secret if need be? If not, is our plan really to let North Korea keep their artillery aimed at Seoul?
    https://www.quora.com/Could-the-US-evacuate-all-of-Seoul-in-secret-if-need-be-If-not-is-our-plan-really-to-let-North-Korea-keep-their-artillery-aimed-at-Seoul

    Seoul has 11 million people. New York, which has 10, also has no evacuation plan. None is possible.

    Also, the reason that N. Korea is going ballistic, hot air-wise, is that Trump is protecting S. Korea. See:

    https://www.vox.com/latest-news/2017/3/3/14795636/china-south-korea-pop-culture-kpop-attacks-thaad

    No real threat.

  12. The only exception I take to this column is that Dr. Sherman is wrong that the Israeli right has the “reins of power in its hands.” This is not and never has been the case. The right may have a majority in the Knesset and cabinet ministers, but the left controls the government through the Supreme Court, the public prosecutors office, other government lawyers, and senior civil servants in the police, Shabak, Foreign Ministry and elsewhere. These officials are overwhelmingly leftists, and they are not appointed by, cannot be fired by, and freely ignore the instructions of, the elected politicians, including the Prime Minister. I have pleaded with Israeli commentators on the Right, including Dr. Sherman, to expose this sordid reality, name names, and describe the decision-making institutional arrangements that make this absurd situation possible. But the rightist advocates have been deaf to my pleas, for reasons that are incomprehensible to me.

  13. @ Felix Quigley:

    Domesticated animal are bred for food….. Jews are allowed to eat them like cows, sheep. goats and deer. all other species are forbidden under the laws of Kashrut meaning painless slaughter….. Since it’s almost impossible to kill deer painlessly is pretty much eliminates deer from the list. In Israel chickens and turkeys are plentiful and not expensive. We also have have large varieties of fish some raise in fish ponds on many of the Kibbutzim.

  14. @ Felix Quigley:

    While Israel has many statistical poor none are so poor they can’t purchase meat….Most of the real destitute get help from social services and private charities. Your Friend Robin is full of shit…. Many of the so called poor have Large digital TV’s and cable… Own their own flats have a/c and near free medical insurance. Public transport is cheap and fruits and veggies in season are also not expensive….. some foods are heavily subsidized like bread and milk… most of Israel’s poor are in the Arab sector and Haridim with large families and the men chose not to work because welfare is too liberal. Worst poverty is with the elderly who immigrated to Israel late in life and have no pensions some with serious illnesses due to advanced age……. In the end to a large degree poverty in Israel is about individual choices and dysfunctional government policies and of course Politics. All said and done every country even Switzerland has poverty and it matters not whether it’s a Commie system or capitalist there will always be some people for a number of reasons living in poverty.

  15. @ Sebastien Zorn:
    Concerning the South Koreans:
    1. South Korea has not done any evacuation drills; though US troops there and the Japanese have.
    2. South Korea hasn’t inoculated anyone against anthrax; thoug the US troops and North Korean troops are inoculated.

    It’s as though President Moon is blackmailing Trump with human shields: “Attack my dear Northern brothers, and you will be blamed for millions of deaths!” when in fact, Moon himself will be responsible.

    Moon is digging his own grave, which he will probably share with many of his countrymen; but he isn’t calling the shots: Kim Jong Un is.

    Meanwhile, yes — good, cheap cardamom, which the Koreans don’t use…

    I’ve been studying the UN vote on the embassy move. It doesn’t actually look much different from most other votes isolating the US and Israel. As for being “alone”, so have the Chinese, Russians and Iranians at times, and especially the North Koreans. No big deal.

  16. @ Edgar G.:

    ROSENBLATT SEEMS TO BE A SCAM ARTIST…. He provides no information as to how much he raises nor any accountability for what and where any of those funds are used for…. I suspect he lives off of what he receives.

  17. @ Felix Quigley:

    Yes, Thank you Felix, A disgusting display of “honour”…..Arab honour that is not real honour. I’ve always read that including some very small local neighbourhood synagogues they amounted to 52. Whatever the number it was what you could expect from barbarians. They also used some of the tombstones to bulld latrines, their homour system, to descreate and demean others, especially Jews. I have close relatived buried on the Mount of Olives, several before the Arabs got to it, and several after they were chased away.

    I suppose you know about the 78 doctors, nurses, students patients etc who were murdered by the Arabs on their way to the Hadassah Hospital on Mt. Scopus around that time, and the British Army just stood by, lolling around, watching them for several hours until it was all over. The nurses and female personnel were raped and mutilated in ways you don’t want to know. And the British Army watched it.

    We don’t hear much about it now, as if it is a forgotten atrocity, and gone from our collective memory

  18. @ Edgar G.:
    Robin can fill me in…I take it there is a large area of land that is semi wild already

    So why not my idea…let these animals roam in a savage state but keep humans away.

    Cut out the profit motive which is ALL you can offer.

    Give the animals a life. This guy Robin is planning to cut their throats by a bloody butcher…

    All for bloody profit…so feck him!

  19. @ robin@longhornproject.org:
    “Do you want poor people not to be able to buy meat once a week for Shabbat to help feed their children? Do you want Vegan pregnant women giving birth to babies with major disabilities or dead?”

    No need science is now MAKING MEAT without cattle so why not Robin…could be a big answer for you.

    If this animal is native why not introduce it, fence the area off FROM HUMANS, AND LET THEM LIVE OUT THEIR NATURAL LIVES.

    Now that is a vision I would fight for.

    But you plan to slit their throats dont ya!

    I would be for fencing off a huge area of wilderness and with high powered rifles finito to any human who trespassed.

  20. @ Sebastien Zorn:

    There are existing photos which show the Temple Mount and the Dome in a most dilapidated state for many years taken from around mid 19th cent. to around 1920.,

    They only now make it “holy” because anything the Jews want, they don’t want them to have, even if it’s a package of safety pins.

  21. @ robin@longhornproject.org:

    You’ve been posting things like this for years. I wrote to you before with pertinent questions as to where the experts would come from, and where the money collected was going to, and how many would be getting paid. You never replied. I was very interested because on the face of it , it seems a good project, and a moneymaker.

    I actually think that you have a good idea,…if properly and above board run. The longhorn would not allow anyone to approach them,without the chance of being gored to death. Their meat is far healthier etc. I’ve read a lot about them and in fact longhorn meat is being marketed in the United States for some years now.

    My BEST suggestion to you is that you personally canvass the Israeli farmers and cattle breeders right there in Israel. They are the ones who should be most interested in the project, and likely have the money to invest. The benefits are manifold enough to get their interest.

    Although, this being such an obvious point, I suspect that you have already done this and failed.

  22. @ mrg3105:
    Yes. From a really excellent article:

    “… once safely back in Muslim hands, interest in Jerusalem again dropped; “the simple fact soon emerged that al-Quds was not essential to the security of an empire based in Egypt or Syria. Accordingly, in times of political or military crisis, the city proved to be expendable,” writes Donald P. Little of McGill University.37 In particular, in 1219, when the Europeans attacked Egypt in the Fifth Crusade, a grandson of Saladin named al-Mu‘azzam decided to raze the walls around Jerusalem, fearing that were the Franks to take the city with walls, “they will kill all whom they find there and will have the fate of Damascus and lands of Islam in their hands.”38 Pulling down Jerusalem’s fortifications had the effect of prompting a mass exodus from the city and its steep decline.

    Also at this time, the Muslim ruler of Egypt and Palestine, al-Kamil (another of Saladin’s grandsons and the brother of al-Mu‘azzam), offered to trade Jerusalem to the Europeans if only the latter would leave Egypt, but he had no takers. Ten years later, in 1229, just such a deal was reached when al-Kamil did cede Jerusalem to Emperor Friedrich II; in return, the German leader promised military aid to al-Kamil against al-Mu‘azzam, now a rival king. Al-Kamil insisted that the Temple Mount remain in Muslim hands and “all the practices of Islam”39 continued to be exercised there, a condition Friedrich complied with. Referring to his deal with Frederick, al-Kamil wrote in a remarkably revealing description of Jerusalem, “I conceded to the Franks only ruined churches and houses.”40 In other words, the city that had been heroically regained by Saladin in 1187 was voluntarily traded away by his grandson just forty-two years later.

    On learning that Jerusalem was back in Christian hands, Muslims felt predictably intense emotions. An Egyptian historian later wrote that the loss of the city “was a great misfortune for the Muslims, and much reproach was put upon al-Kamil, and many were the revilings of him in all the lands.”41 By 1239, another Ayyubid ruler, an-Nasir Da’ud, managed to expel the Franks from the city.

    But then he too ceded it right back to the Crusaders in return for help against one of his relatives. This time, the Christians were less respectful of the Islamic sanctuaries and turned the Temple Mount mosques into churches.

    Their intrusion did not last long; by 1244 the invasion of Palestine by troops from Central Asia brought Jerusalem again under the rule of an Ayyubid; and henceforth the city remained safely under Muslim rule for nearly seven centuries. Jerusalem remained but a pawn in the Realpolitik of the times, as explained in a letter from a later Ayyubid ruler, as-Salih Ayyub, to his son: if the Crusaders threaten you in Cairo, he wrote, and they demand from you the coast of Palestine and Jerusalem, “give these places to them without delay on condition they have no foothold in Egypt.”42

    The psychology at work here bears note: that Christian knights traveled from distant lands to make Jerusalem their capital made the city more valuable in Muslim eyes too. “It was a city strongly coveted by the enemies of the faith, and thus became, in a sort of mirror-image syndrome, dear to Muslim hearts,”43 Sivan explains. And so fractured opinions coalesced into a powerful sensibility; political exigency caused Muslims ever after to see Jerusalem as the third most holy city of Islam (thalith al-masajid).

    Mamluk and Ottoman Rule

    During the Mamluk era (1250-1516), Jerusalem lapsed further into its usual obscurity – capital of no dynasty, economic laggard, cultural backwater—though its new-found prestige as an Islamic site remained intact. Also, Jerusalem became a favorite place to exile political leaders, due to its proximity to Egypt and its lack of walls, razed in 1219 and not rebuilt for over three centuries, making Jerusalem easy prey for marauders. These notables endowed religious institutions, especially religious schools, which in the aggregate had the effect of re-establishing Islam in the city. But a general lack of interest translated into decline and impoverishment. Many of the grand buildings, including the Temple Mount sanctuaries, were abandoned and became dilapidated as the city became depopulated. A fourteenth-century author bemoaned the paucity of Muslims visiting Jerusalem.44 The Mamluks so devastated Jerusalem that the town’s entire population at the end of their rule amounted to a miserable 4,000 souls…”

    The Muslim Claim to Jerusalem
    by Daniel Pipes
    Middle East Quarterly
    Fall 2001, pp. 49-66

    http://www.meforum.org/490/the-muslim-claim-to-jerusalem

  23. “any decisions and actions which purport to have altered the character, status or demographic composition of the Holy City of Jerusalem have no legal effect, are null and void and must be rescinded” – in fact in this pronouncement is the kernel of UN’s own downfall.
    There is a legal doctrine, at least in European states, where orders pronounced by a judiciary can be rendered “null and void”, and that doctrine is known by the Latin term ultra vires, meaning “beyond the powers”. It’s meaning is that the decision maker has acted outside the jurisdictional powers vested in the court where the decision was made.
    And indeed, the UN has no jurisdiction to determine or dictate to countries where they locate their capital cities. If the United States chooses tomorrow to occupy London, and call it her new capital, the UN may resolve to pronounce London an occupied city and call upon the USA to leave UK, and for other member states to boycott the US until she does leave, but it has no power to influence domestic policy of any state.
    Moreover, any decision made based on false and misleading information provided to the jury by the judiciary is also null and void because providing such information is in itself an offense.
    “”any decisions and actions which purport to have altered the character, status or demographic composition of the Holy City of Jerusalem” – the key word here is ‘purported’, for this is an allegation of guilt yet to be proven.
    Until 1947 the character of Jerusalem was that of another British colonial administrative centre. Its status was that of a mandate, and its demographic composition was altered by itinerant labour brought in by the Mandate Administration without any immigration controls or systems of repatriation.
    Jerusalem remained Holy’, i.e. different/special only to Jews. Christians travelled there, but only to specific building and sites, while Muslims hardly visited at all. 15,000 Armenians happily resettled around the World from their refugee camp despite Jerusalem having an Armenian quarter. Only Jews fled to, not from Jerusalem.
    Part of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine, which the Jews of Mandatory Palestine accepted and the Arabs of Mandatory Palestine and neighbouring states rejected, was that Jerusalem would be a corpus separatum, under United Nations control and not part of either the proposed Arab or Jewish states. Israel argued that the partition plan regarding Jerusalem was “null and void” due to the UN’s “active relinquishing of responsibility in a critical hour” when the UN did not act to protect the city. The Arabs, who had been against Jerusalem’s internationalization all along, felt similarly. The appointment of Dov Yosef as “Military Governor of the Occupied Area of Jerusalem” on 2 August closed the door on the possibility of Jerusalem being internationalized.
    The 2018 resolution simply echoes UN’s wilful impotence of 1948.

  24. He is right about how different things would be if it were Hillary and not Trump in there but Guatemala does have a lot of influence in one important area which makes the Arab threat of boycott impotent. Guatemela displaced India as the world’s largest producer and exporter of Cardemom, which is an indispensable component of Arab coffee since they devoted more acreage to the crop, making it cheaper but of the same quality. You can’t make Arabic coffee without cardemom. Saudi Arabia imports over 90 percent of its cardemom from Guatemala. Kuwait is 2nd. Arab countries consume 60 percent of all cardemom exports worldwide. Even if the Crown Prince weren’t pressuring everybody to accept Trump’s decision despite voting for it themselves — that’s a great Abba Eban quote, totally spot on — they wouldn’t be able to boycott Guatemla without making the price of coffee go up, and coffee is important to their culture. Almost as much as it is to Koreans, though Koreans prefer coffee fancy Italian, which is to say, Starbucks style so cardemom isn’t an issue.

    http://www.efymag.com/admin/issuepdf/Cardamom_Mar09.pdf

    So, it’s also true, what Netanyahu as being saying, that what is going on below the surface is different than what can be seen on top.

  25. I’d like to hear some details about what he would like to be done with that billion dollars to change international public opinion and how to insure that most of the money would go towards that end and not into the pockets of foundation or government bureaucrats through salaries and other perks.

  26. Do you know most America Jews have abandon Israel?

    Do you support forest fires and flash floods in Israel? Do you want Arabs to attack our ranches and mutilate our cattle, cut their noses off, their ears, their lips and cutting out their eyes? Do you want Arabs stealing our land? Do you want Israeli ranches and farmers going broke and losing their land? Do you want poor people not to be able to buy meat once a week for Shabbat to help feed their children? Do you want Vegan pregnant women giving birth to babies with major disabilities or dead?

    If you don’t then help the Israel Longhorn Project at http://longhornproject.org

    To do that we need 12 of you to donate $50,000 each or 600 of you to give $1000 or 600 of you to give $1000 or 6000 of you give $100 each.

    Robin Rosenblatt, M.Sc. Animal science, former Israeli soldier and past anti terrorist agent

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  27. It is not easy to stand alone. One tends to blame oneself. Mr. Sherman makes a point re upgrading diplomacy. But Jeruselum is ours. There is no Palestine. The world is wrong especially the Europeans. G-d has rewarded them for the sin of AntiSematism with millions of Muslims to replace the Jews they anniliated or ran out of their continent. Stand tall and fight on. Burt Roseman MD