Israel’s Netanyahu congratulates Biden on U.S. election win, thanks Trump
Netanyahu tweeted.
“Congratulations @JoeBiden and @KamalaHarris. Joe, we’ve had a long & warm personal relationship for nearly 40 years, and I know you as a great friend of Israel. I look forward to working with both of you to further strengthen the special alliance between the U.S. and Israel,”
President Trump has stood by Israel throughout his presidency, and Israel should have stood by him.
Loyalty deserves loyalty in return.
The last I heard it, Trump was still the president and hadn’t conceded victory to Biden. Trump will be reelected.
@ Reader:
READER- you are in one of your “silly” stages again. What Trump has done with Barr is LEGAL, and it is especially crafted to get around those laws which would prevent a fair and free election.
Just think about what you just wrote……and answer this…;
“How do you think that he could turn the tide in his favour if the actual legal votes were not there to support his win”…? Are you suggesting that Trump and Barr are concocting a criminal act in ensuring that the election is fair and honest……If so you are being stubborn.
You actually know, as you get into lots of outlet news and reports, that the Democrats perpetrated the biggest steal in history. And were caught doing it.
You almost sound as if you want Biden to be President, Crooked Biden, and his senile incoherence. You know he’s merely a puppet for the real bosses, who keep in the shadows so that we don’t know who they are. This effort of Trump may winkle them out of hiding. I look forward to it.
@ Ted Belman:
@ Sebastien Zorn:
I think that if Morty wants to “sit on the fence” without damage to his tucchas, he could have better used “possible” president -elect….. But, well,….Americans -you know…….!!
“Likely” sounds too much like “-licker” to me…
@ Reader:
Here is the link:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-attorney-dispatched-to-agency-blocking-biden-transition-173301811.html
@ Sebastien Zorn:
Don’t you think it’s unprecedented that a sitting president who by all appearances has lost the election unleashes his Justice department to turn the tide in his favor?
And not only that:
Trump uses the power of the United States government to skew the election results in his favor while he still has time AND NO ONE OBJECTS including the Democrats!
@ Ted Belman:
Trump is not a feudal lord and Bibi is not his vassal or his serf (and nobody else is).
So many are caving.
@ Michael S:
I call it opportunism but I don’t think it matters much in the scheme of things. If Biden is annointed – you notice I don’t say, “elected” – which depends on the courts doing the right thing, recall how Roberts has behaved in practice — the Biden team will be vindictive enough, as it is, they are afraid of extra vindictiveness on account of pique. I wouldn’t make a big deal about it. Bibi survived 8 years of Obama without making suicidal concessions in spite of enormous pressure. Let’s hope he doesn’tt have to do that jester’s dance before the demented king, once again.
@ Reader:
@ Edgar G.:
“He KNOWS that Netanyahu must looks out FIRST for his own country,”
Good point, Edgar. Also, Bibi was about the last MK to bow the knee to Biden. He was probably far enough back in the line to, it seems in usual Netanyahu fashion, to win popular support in the event of President Trump’s re-election.
That said, Israel is playing with fire, dallying with the globalists — something Israel’s new Arab friends have been doing as well. I don’t blame them — it’s part of the “diaspora dance”, which even Sabras can trot. In the end, her partners will stomp on both her feet and attack her.
“If the US was at war…”
Actually we ARE at war with the globalists: Our constitution, our economy, our military strength, our health and our standing in the world are all under direct, intense assault by powers who are stronger than Hitler ever was. They are not destroying the tanks and aircraft, just the drivers and pilots — that’s all they need to destroy, and it leaves them in control of the booty.
One of the most powerful weapons in the enemy’s arsenal is Information Technology, which takes over people’s minds, and is controlled by a few phenomenally wealthy, highly placed, unprincipled oligarchs. Never in history has so much power been concentrated in the hands of so few.
Sometimes, it’s a real blessing to be old and close to the grave.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-authorizes-investigation-allegations-voting-irregularities-no-evidence
@ Michael S:
I think you’re talking nonsense about Trump and disloyalty when referring to Netanyahu. It’s a wild speculation at BEST. First, they’ve known one another as friends for over 40 years. Secondly, Trump is not vindictive, he’s a kind hearted man, but his motto is to keep opponents, and perhaps fiends also but I have no idea about thet) off balance. His whole life has revolved around that trait, in ALL his business dealings. You should well know this. , (
He KNOWS that Netanyahu must looks out FIRST for his own country, the way Trump looks out for the US., and that it would be political suicide for Netanyahu to behave any differently than he did. He hesitated long enough.
And to think that it is expected for e leader of a sovereign country to be “loyal” in the concept of an election 9,000 miles away is just too silly to think of. If the US was at war, and needed landing rights in Israel, and was refused, although it would bring no, or even some danger to allow, then THAT would be disloyal.
Do you think Netanyahu, assuming that Biden prevails, will not be feeling bitter about it,…?? but he will have to smile all the same .
I was only kidding about Dershowitz about his need to get himself involved in EVERYTHING thus the “Car 54”. But I read that also, and WE know from the videos that there are a lot more than just “late ballots”. And in 6-7 states. Dershowitz just wanted to get his name n the news.///as usual
@ Edgar G.:
You asked about Alan Dershowitz:
“Retired Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz told Newsmax TV on Monday the Trump campaign probably has the correct legal argument disputing for late arriving absentee ballots in Pennsylvania, but it will matter where there are enough of them to change the outcome of the vote.
“Dershowitz endorsed the notion in a question by “American Agenda” host Bob Sellers that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court was wrong in its decision to allow Pennsylvania executive branch officials to count ballots that arrived as many as three days after election day because of the novel coronavirus outbreak. State law requires ballots arrive by election day.
“That’s a very sound legal argument, and it would probably prevail in the United States Supreme Court,” Dershowitz said. “In other words, the legal issue may very well be on the side of President Trump in Pennsylvania. The question is whether the numbers will make a difference.”
— https://www.kabc.com/news/alan-dershowitz-to-newsmax-tv-trump-has-good-case-in-pa/
The Dersh has been working a lawsuit against CNN the past few days, but he still seems very much in play. What we seem to need now, more than a lawyer, is Emile Zola. Concerning Bibi, you said,
“I’d trust Trump to know Netanyahu’s REAL feeling…”
I don’t know if anyone knows his real feelings, other than that he will do what it takes to stay in power. I am pretty sure President Trump will deal with him, if he survives the current insurrection; but like King David, he has a good memory when it comes to disloyalty. The good king made sure Joab’s white hairs didn’t go down to the grave — long after his chief general proved his wicked character in killing Abner.
Putting motives on hold, I have been most surprized with the fact that in the contest between nationalism and globalism, Donald Trump and Israel find themselves on opposite sides. Even Jared Kushner, it is rumored, tried to convince his father-in-law to abdicate to the pretender, while Kim Jong Un has shown rather fierce loyalty to the American president.
We’ll see how our version of “The Anarchy” develops…
@ Laura:
Yes of course he must be. It’s just that yesterday and the day before I could not switch Youtube on without seeing him, and since yesterday evening and all today he was missing. I know that he was likely busy filing documents and making applications and whatever was needed to be done at court level. And…I just switched to Israpundit immediately after just now listening to Giuliani going over some of the items that he’s dealing with. And then I see your post within 10 seconds, mentioning him….. Hmmm something must be going on , I’d better buy a lottery ticket.
What stations do you listen to, if I may ask…..?
@ Edgar G.:
Rudy Giuliani is very much involved.
@ Michael S:
It doesn’t matter a fig leaf what recognition the Israel govt gives to Biden. I’d trust Trump to know Netanyahu’s REAL feeling s rather than the cunning but failing Joe Biden, who has been a crook ever since he found that politics could make him rich. I never heard of Biden except as Obama’s VP, and he didn’t appear much then either. But one thing I do know, and it has shown all over him. He is malicious. And the Democrat way is to gut your enemies and use your friends.
The Republicans, as far back as I can recall being interested in US politics, have always been a cut or two above the Democrats, in standing and legitimacy. I still recall how Joe Kennedy and Mayor Daly stole the presidency from Nixon, and Nixon’s speech saying that he could contest and win, but “out of respect for the Office of the Presidency, I will let it go”…I’ve always liked Nixon ever since. Still do. The social upheaval of his time is mirrored in this one right now.
I tuned in to that site but the stars and moon slices backdrop (un)impressed me. I was expecting to see a depiction of Shoton, complete with horns, peering in from a corner.
And he was not discussing the Election, but how to get more subscribers, taking up about 10 minutes. At least it seemed that long. I’ll try them again, because first impressions are not always accurate, and your recommendation carries weight.
I don’t think there’s much going on news-wise because the filings are only being done. I listened to Kayleigh Mc. and her voice could cut glass. Not nearly as good as the previous lady..Sarah. She was excellent. Giuliani seems absent. I heard that the Repubs. were concerned that they didn’t have enough high profile lawyers on their side, and were looking to augment. DERSHOWITZ WHERE ARE YOU…???.(Car 54)
@ Laura:
@ Laura:
Almost 100% of what I’ve been thinking. Common-sense and logic must prevail over all the wild hypotheses that are being slung around here. We’ll know when we know, and not before. It would be logical for Netanyahu to step away where nobody can hear or see him and phone Trump’s private line. Since the spying, taping, phone tapping, hacking etc. that they’ve most likely suffered, I’m sure they’ve both figured a way to get privacy.
@ Edgar G.:
Edgar, I thought the same thing myself that perhaps Bibi spoke to Trump privately and received his ok before “congratulating” bejing biden. We have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes. I’m sure Bibi privately wants Trump to prevail. How can he not? But at the same time, just in case he has to at least pretend to congratulate bejing biden.
@ Michael S:
Israel in the camp of globalist conspirators? How absurd and irrational. I don’t know why you aren’t banned from this forum since you are clearly anti-Israel. I don’t agree with Bibi’s remarks to biden, but you are going way over the top in declaring Israel our enemy. This coming from someone who has family living in communist China. Where do your loyalties lie? I stand by my earlier comments to you, go fuck yourself michael.
@ tree:
Hi, tree. Thank you for clarifying for us, the context of Bibi’s comments. I personally agree with Ted on this matter, that at the least Netanyahu should have said nothing at all. What really concerned me, was what Edgar said a little while ago — to the effect that Bibi’s (“feeble and meaningless?”) words came after many endorsements of Biden from other MKs, indicating that most of the knesset was kowtowing to Biden’s handlers. This is apparently true:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/gantz-first-israeli-leader-to-congratulate-biden-looks-to-boost-defense-ties/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-opposition-head-yaminas-bennett-congratulate-biden-netanyahu-not-yet/
That sounds like a near-unanimous recognition of Biden’s legitimacy by both sides of the Israeli government. I call that a complete rebuke of Donald Trump.
@ Edgar G.:
Hi, Edgar. I recommend
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/styxhexenhammer666/
Styx has a completely contrarian persona; but if one can get beyond that (which is easy for me), one will discover a very sharp wit. Politically, he proclaims himself to be libertarian (note the small “l”), but pragmatically so. He has strongly supported President Trump, but is perfectly content to live with a Biden presidency — under which we are highly likely, in his words, to have another war, a terrible depression and a wildly dysfunctional, hopelessly deadlocked government.
Styx is a born and bred Vermonter, I believe, but lives in the somewhat more friendly climate of the Netherlands.
Enjoy your visit 🙂
@ tree:
More or less what I’ve been trying to get through some blocked heads. I think that only Laura saw my point.
We are ALL on the outside looking in through a very fogged window, and can see nothing, either clearly or even imperfectly. All we know is that Biden “won” by corrupt means, and that Trump s objecting through the courts. Congratulations or not, make no difference to anything.
@ Reader:
Good sensible post from you Reader. I echo it.
@ Michael S:
Sending feeble, meaningless words of congratulation is not “helping Biden” in any way.
It has as much meaning as “how are you” when meeting someone on the street. Lets be REAL, LOGICAL beings for even a short while and set aside the speculations of disastrous eventualities which may never arrive.
I must look as you Styxhexenhammer666 to see if it is a factually rather than a conspiracy outlet. The “666” makes me wonder…..
Ted, Bibi can recognize that barring a first in US History that an election recognized by all the media to have fallen one way will not be reversed by the courts. Only if state certifications as to the vastly perceived winner Biden turn out to be different in several states will Trump have a second turn as POTUS. Highly Highly unlikely.
That is the reality and as Prime Minister he must deal in realities. He is not betraying anyone especially Trump. Bibi is the Prime Minister of Israel. Yes, it would have been better if Trump would have gotten a second term but that is highly highly unlikely at this point.
I understand it hurts that Trump lost. It also bothers me but I prefer to deal in realities even though I am likely to get criticized for my viewpoint. Bibi is also dealing in reality whether some are unable to understand this or not.
@ Ted Belman:
I take it then , that the above comment about “Backstabbing” came from you. Well I AM surprised, didn’t think you’d be so rash and “rush to judgement” .Anyone else..but not you.
I have explained my belief and the tricky situation that Israel stands in, with relation to the world, with only the US as a really Firm Staunch Ally and supporter. Netanyahu could do no less. I would be sure that Trump KNOWS what Netanyahu actually thinks and will bear no animus.
We are talking as if the principals were fractious children playing in a sandbox with toys that one or the other want at the same time. I could believe it of Biden the mentally failing Democrat crook, but not of Trump the American patriot whose long list of personal unasked-for good deeds emerges from time to time. He is a kind person..
Those who immediately congratulated Biden, will equally congratulate Trump if and when he wins re-election officially. Those who haven’t yet done so, will not be affected by a Trump re-emergence as President. He does what’s best for America, not to gratify real or imagined grudges. He knows that the presidents or PMs of the not-yet countries have their own peoples’ welfare to consider, and they are following their own policies…. to wait and see.
The whole “article” was unwarranted and foolish to a large degree, in my considered opinion. How do we know what private message Netanyahu might not have sent Trump before publicly messaging Biden… We are fools running around with our eyes closed and our mouths open.
@ Laura:
It is not by chance that he used only one word – after waiting a long time – “congratulate” and did not say for what. The usual way of congratulation would have been longer:” congratulate for being elected for President”.
It is a good compromise because really it is not a finished process, but in the same time it is a gesture for a probable POTUS, Israel has to live with.
@ Ted Belman:
Hi, Ted
I agree — Netanyahu showed the utmost disrespect and imprudence; the Russians have been far wiser. According to Edgar, Bibi was not the only fool in Israel in this respect: many MPs have made fools of themselves for a US Presidential candidate who hates their guts.
I am not counting on Trump winning, though I think he has a good chance. Whether he wins or not, it would be good for him to clean out his drawer as much as possible to prepare for a departure: He has just fired Esper, and good riddance! He would be wise to get rid of as much of the Swamp as he’s able to. As Styxhexenhammer666 puts it, he needs to “break all of Biden’s toys” before his handlers take over. At the very least, he needs to quickly clean house in the NSA, CIA, and other Deep State power centers.
What is happening now seems to be an internationally orchestrated coup by the globalists (viz, the EU, UK, former TPP aspirants and some hardcore Trump-haters like Maduro, as well as the US tech oligarchy & allies) against statists of any kind. This, of course, puts Israel in the camp of the Globalist conspirators. They will pay for this. China, Russia, Turkey, Iran, Mexico, Brazil, North Korea and some others are “Multipolar” nationalists, who are strategically opposed to the Globalists. That is why I believe they are holding off on helping Biden in any way.
If Biden wins, of course, it will be completely by nefarious means; and it does not bode well for him and his handlers.
@ Laura:
Laura, you need to look around the house for your mouth. I think it ran away. Your mind might be in a different part of the house.
There is a personal relationship btw “Joe the racist” and Bibi.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-israel-statement-idUSKCN11K2CI
September 14, 2016 / 1:35 PM / Updated 4 years ago
U.S., Israel sign $38 billion military aid package
@ Michael S:
Well fuck you where you breathe, michael. This statement that Israel isn’t America’s ally shows you to be anti-Israel. Anti-semites rejoice at your words. And fuck your brat grandchildren in china. Nuke china.
Russian President Vladimir Putin is waiting for official results from the U.S. presidential election before congratulating the winner, a Kremlin spokesperson said.
So is Mexico.
I stand by what I said.. Bibi should have made a point of standing by Trump.. There was no need to kiss Biden’s ass. Biden is a crook who is trying to steal the presidency. He deserves no respect. He deserves derision. Israel must stand by Trump until Trump .. Not to worry. I have full confidence That Trump will be inaugurated again.. Bibi should have been more concerned with standing by Trump then with fear of alienating Biden.
Kushner recently explained what Trump di that made all the difference. He abandoned the role of impartial peace broker in favour of siding with Israel. This turned the JME around.
Bibi should have declared his allegiance to Trump.
TRUE!
@ Edgar G.:
TRUE!
@ Michael S:
P.S. The leaders of North Korea, Red China, Iran, Turkey, Russia and Brazil have joined Mexico in staying off the “Biden bandwagon” (Taiwan has congratulated the Dem. candidate). Considering that Biden has a reputation as a warmonger, the prospect of war is very great if he indeed gets in power.
@ Laura:
TRUE!
@ Edgar G.:
Edgar,
I did some quick checks, on which world leaders have prematurely congratulated Biden on his non-existent “win”. They include the leaders of the UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, Japan, S. Korea and India. The president of Mexico is the only one I’ve checked, who has held off until the winner is actually properly chosen.
If Netanyahu has also stabbed President Trump in the back, that means that none of America’s “allies”, including Israel, are allies at all — except for Mexico. Meanwhile, Joe Biden has indicated that he doesn’t plan to show favor to anyone who doesn’t ply him and his family liberally with bribery. To the Brits, whose spineless PM has already come fawning to him, Biden reminded them that “he is Irish” (i.e. ANYTHING but pro-British). In the language of my favorite commentator, Styxhexenhammer666, the leaders of the world are F***ing themselves, whoever comes out on top in the US.
“Israel is a US client state”, “Trump’s and his supporters’ vengeance”.
What century do we live in?
Is Trump an absolute monarch?
I feel sick to my stomach.
This is Veeerrry interresting…. I posted about the anonymity of the “composer” of the above very thoughtless piece of rubbish. I suggested that it might have been deliberate, and from our publisher just to stir things up a bit and see what comments emerged..
It disappeared completely…This may go the same way. If it does, then I feel I’ll know who the anonymous “epistle” came from. Although I find it hard to believe, except as an instigation..
WHO wrote the above “article”. It isn’t an article of course merely a complaint made without thinking about Israel’s always perilous situation. With all it’s vaunted technology and military “might”, it would crumple against any modern enemy of size. We’re simply too small, with no depth to manoeuvre, and ballistic missiles make all that unimportant anyway…except against Arabs. Even there Israel’s strategy of expending massive ordinance and air power, would need re-supplying;and only from the US, NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT.. So it’s extremely important to be on good terms.
Or did the publisher put it in, to shake out some comments. In the meantime it’s anonymous until the “composer” comes out of the woods !!
@ Laura:
I apologise for “spouting off” at you. I am morally certain that Trump will not hold any animus towards Netanyahu. He KNOWS the position that Israel is in, which is why he acted so benevolently towards her. He has a life-long affinity for Israel, he supports some moshavim etc. and he and Netanyahu have been friends for about 40 years. .
Trump only give the impression of impetuosity, he thinks very quickly, and acts the same way. He has valid reasons for everything he does. I have studied him. I recall one time, not long after he became President, that he said that his “unpredictability” was deliberate, and makes an opponent uncertain of what his next move might be. I think he mentioned his famous book “The Art of the Deal” as an example..
Nixon said the very same thing, that he behaved erratically, to give him an advantage in the international arena .It made enemies afraid of what he might do next. They are the only 2 presidents of whom I know, that had this trait.
So don’t worry. The important thing is that he regains the Presidency and Biden can go to a Rest Home.
Nobody on this earth wants Trump to retain the Presidency more than I do. Nor the ascendancy of Israel for ever. It is due to Netanyahu who thinks in 3 or 4 dimensions that Israel is in such a strong position vis a vis the civilised world.
@ Edgar G.:
Edgar, I want Trump to win, I do no think for one second that Harris/biden would be an attractive alternative to Trump, it would be a catastrophe. But I do worry that Bibi’s remark will alienate Trump and his supporters. I support Trump wholeheartedly but let’s be honest, he tends to give payback to those he feels have wronged him. I do not want Israel to be on the receiving end of his vengeance because of Bibi’s shortsighted comments praising bejing biden. If I sound paranoid, I am, because we Jews are the perennial scapegoats, who people turn on when they are aggrieved. I can see conservatives in America turning against Israel over this.
@ Laura:
Nonsense. You are merely a “fire-spouter”. Trump will not turn against Israel;he has a life-long affection for Israel and Jews, as had his father.. He knows well how precariously Israel must keep balanced between warring factions, because after all is said, Israel is a US client state, and must be careful not to alienate any potential US oficial who may get into a position of power from which he/she can hurt Israel.
Netanyahu the STATESMAN, did exactly the right thing. He hesitated, for 24 hours, to show Trump his situation, and then, because everyone else in his government had already rushed to send congratulations to the so-far unelected Biden, followed suit. He had NO alternative. You need not think that Biden is an attractive alternative to Trump for Israel. He is NOT. It will be Harris and Omar and Tlaib etc. They are all in it together…”we girls” …..you know…Laa-dee-dah..
If you didn’t have your mouth so wide open all the time, obscuring your vison, you’d see better what’s really happening. Trump has a very good case for being elected-we must wait until the court proceedings play out. The electors, who decide on Dec. 14th whom they chose to be President. It then is ratified by Congress voting on it.
@ Laura:
Actually they already have.
Now I’m afraid it will be bad for Israel no matter what. If bejing biden gets in we already know based on the previous administration that he will be no friend to Israel. If Trump miraculously turns the election around, he might feel betrayed and turn against Israel. Trump supporters will likely turn against Israel.
Bibi is a coward – afraid of the Israeli Left, the EU and the any potential POTUS.
I wish netanyahu would have had the balls to say biden is illegitimate, he’s stealing the election. He knows biden will not be Israel’s friend anyway. Stop being so fucking diplomatic.
Why did netanyahu feel pressured to make this statement? He’s such a pussy, he should have kept his mouth shut.
Why did Netan
I agree. He shouldn’t have said anything and just wait at least until its certified. BTW, Biden is an ENEMY of Israel and Netanyahu knows full well how horribly the obama/biden regime was to Israel. He should have kept his mouth shut. He owes nothing to bejing biden.