If Netanyahu accepted this deal, he will also accept a two state solution based on ’67 lines plus swaps. If he can accept a deal with Hamas that allows them to continue their intransigence and keep their weapons, he can accept a deal with Abbas that leaves open the possibility of attack from Judea and Samaria. I see no difference. Besides he is now indebted to Obama. What will that cost us? Ted Belman
Azzam al-Ahmed, head of the Palestinian Authority (PA) delegation in the Cairo truce talks, revealed to AFP on Tuesday night what exactly was in the long-term ceasefire deal that Israel agreed to, and which went into effect at 7 p.m. that night.
The first point raised was Gaza border crossings. Under the agreement, there will be an immediate easing of restrictions on the two main crossings between Israel and Gaza to allow in aid and reconstruction supplies.
Significantly, construction materials needed to repair the water network, electricity grid and mobile phone networks will be allowed in along with humanitarian aid, food and medical supplies. It should be noted that Israel continued supplying humanitarian goods throughout most of Operation Protective Edge.
Construction materials have in the past been used to build terror tunnels to attack Israel, and therefore earlier reports signaled they would not be allowed in until the ceasefire had proven itself for a set amount of time.
The deal did not give specific details about how construction materials might be restricted, in line with the Israeli blockade on Gaza that has been in effect since 2006. It did however call for a lifting of that blockade with no clear timeline.
As for the Gaza fishing zone, restrictions will be lifted immediately to extend the zone to six nautical miles from the shore, to be extended later to 12 miles. Over the past eight years, Israel has set a six-nautical-mile limit for Gaza’s fishermen when tensions were lower, restricting it to three miles when hostilities have escalated.
Israel temporarily lifted the ban on August 17, two days before Hamas breached the last truce.
During the operation fishing was canceled due to security threats, as Hamas terrorists made several attempts to infiltrate Israel by sea, and have often tried to smuggle weapons into the Hamas stronghold under the guise of fishing vessels.
The ceasefire deal likewise would have future discussions held about a swap of terrorists jailed in Israel for the bodies of IDF soldiers Second Lt. Hadar Goldin and First Sgt. Oron Shaul hy”d, who were killed in the operation.
Hamas wants hundreds of prisoners released, among them those arrested in Operation Brother’s Keeper, during which the IDF cracked down on the Hamas infrastructure in Judea and Samaria while searching for three Israeli teens abducted by Hamas terrorists.
They additionally demanded the release of roughly 60 terrorists who were freed in the 2011 Gilad Shalit deal and later re-arrested, some of whom quickly returned to murderous acts of terror.
Hamas is also calling for the release of 37 Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC) members, all but two of whom are Hamas members, along with the 26 terrorists promised in the fourth batch of releases as part of the Israel-PA peace talks that broke down in April.
The Hamas demand for a Gaza sea and airport will be discussed in Cairo within the next month according to the agreement.
What will Israel get from all of this? The one major Israeli demand has been a demilitarization of Gaza, which has emerged as a terror haven since Israel’s withdrawal in 2005. Apparently Israel has linked the lifting of the Gaza blockade and reconstructing the area with the disarmament of the terror groups.
The Palestinian delegation flatly refused this lone demand.
Apparently Israel will raise demilitarization and the limitation on construction materials and weapons in the next stage of talks to be held in the coming month.
@ CuriousAmerican:
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Most probably a suicide. He hid in a spot somewhere (which was hard to find) and took some pills or something.
CuriousAmerican Said:
” If it doesn’t make sense, its not true”, Judge Judy.
Aharon Soffer.
This may be a bit off topic, but it concerns the death of Aharon Soffer, the 23 year old Hasid who got lost in the Jerusalem Forest and died.
He got lost in the Jerusalem Forest.
That is 1/3rd the size of Central Park.
How does a young “healty man” get lost in a medium size park where he is only 1/2 kilometer – 500 yards, 5 city blocks in New York from a major road, and only 1 or 2 kilometers from a town. And some towns are much closer.
There is something radically wrong with the official story. RADICALLY.
In the center of the park he would have been no more than 1 km from a major road or town, if even that. How did he get lost?
At the center of the Forest, one can see nearby towns. All he had to do was walk straight and within 1 km he would have found a town or a major road.
They say he died of dehydration.
A young man in his 20s could have walked out of there in under an hour, maybe 30 minutes. No time for dehydration.
Nothing makes sense.
Either
A) He slipped an fell and broke his bones. But a scream for help would have been heard throughout out half the park. Or he was knocked unconscious.
B) But the death is listed as dehydration, not concussion.
C) He was diabetic and went into a coma – but I have seen no reports to that effect.
D) He had been drinking, which would increase the dehydration. But when he sobered up, he should have walked out.
E) He was killed.
Look at this map (Click Here)
There is NO way a young 23 year old man would have failed to get out of a “forest” that is 1/3rd the size of Central Park.
THIS WAS A MEDIUM SIZED PARK at best.
A team of 40 men – only 30 meters – apart could have walked though the park in a straight line (except for verticallly) in under 2 hours.
And they could not find him for a week?
The official story is ridiculous.
My guess is that he was either diabetic or killed.
HE DID NOT DIE OF DEHYDRATION.
another reason why it is better to keep hamas than abbas /fatah. When abbas dies or retires fatah will choose a new leader and it can be this guy
Unless Israel seeks to annex gaza permanently there is no gain to deposing hamas. Israel’s optimum position is the separation of gaza and PA west bank.
Did the penny drop?
this should be interesting if true, the more internal squabbling among them the better: the pal spring?
Senior Hamas official: Israel agreed to open Gaza crossings
BETHLEHEM (Ma’an) — Israel has agreed to open Gaza crossings to allow the flow of humanitarian aid and construction material, senior Hamas leader Mousa Abu Marzouq said Tuesday.
Speaking to Ma’an, Abu Marzouq added that three more Gaza crossings will be operated in addition the Kerem Shalom and Erez crossings, which are already operating.
Asked about the fishing zone, he said that Gaza fishermen would be allowed to reach as far as 6 nautical miles and the zone would be increased gradually until it is 12 nautical miles by the end of 2014.
Reconstruction of the war-torn Gaza Strip will be discussed during a conference in Egypt next month, added Abu Marzouq. The Palestinian national consensus government will be in charge of implementation.
The Hamas official added that the ceasefire agreement was sponsored and would be monitored by Egypt only.
Another round of negotiations will start a month from now to discuss unresolved issues, Abu Marzouq said.
Furthermore, Israeli, European and American restrictions and opposition to money transfers to Gaza for salaries for employees of the former Hamas-led government in Gaza have been cancelled. The national consensus government is supposedly working on proceedings to arrange payment of salaries.
Abu Marzouq pointed out that Israel agreed to stop targeted assassinations of resistance activists and said that a ceasefire agreement could have been reached earlier if Israel agreed to this demand sooner.
As for the Rafah crossing, Abu Marzouq said Egyptian and Palestinian officials would meet soon to discuss what is needed to open the crossing permanently.
The Gaza buffer zone has also been removed, he added.
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=3D723137
@ yamit82:
Who won. Not I, I am neglected: http://youtu.be/ljYO58FrR_E
SHmuel HaLevi 2 Said:
PCPO Poll of Gaza: 75.4% Israel deterred more
The key poll results are:
(61.2%) of the Palestinians oppose the deployment of UN-multi-national forces in Gaza Strip.
(54.0%) are satisfied with the performance of the PA-president “Abu Mazen”.
(64.7%) rated the stances of the UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon as “negative”.
(88.9%) support the firing of rockets from Gaza at Israel.
(58.1%) are content with the ICRC performance, (71.2 %) with that of the UNRWA.
(75.4%) believe that the deterrence of the Palestinian Resistance has increased.
Read Full Poll Here
Who won?
Well, in war only one of the camps wins and others loose.
Losers are decimated, destroyed, devoid of any ability to continue fighting in the present and for the foreseeable future. Using that very much simplified yard stick, neither Israel or HAMAS fit the definition of loser. And that is where subjective added factors enter the play. Bad news for us. It means that HAMAS can claim victory just as much as we can.
Is for that outcome that we pay huge sums to the enormous military system?
My answer is a robust NO WAY!
We must select out the present staff officer cadre and incorporate only can do, WINNING oriented officers.
And pitch out the “rubber bullet” doctrine as well!
We must deep six the attorney load sitting over the heads of every military pro.
Will somebody please explain to me again what was our objective by going into the GAZA-HAMAS war? I am a Gaucho of very little brain and seem to have forgotten why we allowed Netanyahu to destroy the lives of our children and citizens. Besides wasting several billions of taxpayers funds. Make it simple w/o side shows if I may ask.