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Menu There is no diplomatic solutionIsrael should declare three nos;
no to nuclear Iran, no to two-state solution, no to bi-national state
no to nuclear Iran, no to two-state solution, no to bi-national state
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You state all your OPINIONS as if they are fact. You know nothing of Israel’s strength. It has nothing to do with the US, it has everything to do with what the Creator wants. Your opinion about this has nothing to do with reality – get a new parrot.
Not so dumb. Yes, I can. Anyone who weakens the Israeli-American alliance and attacks supporters of Israel clearly weakens Israel.
Israel without the US is like Samson after a haircut.
You and your few friends have failed because of people like me and Laura. My country’s actions of providing Israel with billions in aid and arms deals and UNSC vetoes is what has helped make Israel what it it is today, in spite of the hubris of the few like you.
I can’t help it if you are too dumb to understand my answers, or pretend to because of your anti-Israel agenda.
This is your dumb opinion. You cant prove I’m trying to weaken Israel. You know nothing of Israel and what our strength is. I don’t have to do a thing to weaken the Israeli-American alliance, your country’s actions are doing quite a fine job of that.
AND again – a non answer from you.
I have chosen many, not just this one.
It may not be G-d, but it does protect Israel.
Dweller, ask Yonatan why he is one of those alleged Jews who try to weaken Israel by trying to weaken the Israeli-American alliance.
As usual, a non answer. There are many “right” things to do, but you choose this one. Why?
And, all the reasons you list above have to do with US / Israel relations more than Israel alone. The US is not G-d.
Dweller – have fun with him, but ultimately, your wasting your life by even responding to him.
Because it is the right thing to do. You probably wouldn’t have a clue what this means.
Israel needs all the help it can get given that 78% of American Jews actually voted for the most anti-Semitic president in US history, and George Soros, J Street and 400 NY Rabbis have attacked the most pro-Israel TV personality in America.
A charming series of clever evasions and diversions.
I repeat my question (and I venture to suggest that I speak for more than just myself in asking it):
What is the basis for your interest in the Jewish state?
So, then, let’s call it hubris because it is idle speculation masquerading as prescient prognostication.
Because Bibi is far smarter that his detractors combined, which is why he is the PM and they would be lucky to be elected dog-catcher, I consider this idle speculation as hubris.
Who knows if YOU are Jewish? This is the internet after all. Perhaps, blinded by your hubris and pretense at being too clever by half, you have missed the fact that Israel’s second biggest problem after the radical Muslims, is liberal Jews. So, they need allies among non-Jews.
More idle speculation devoid of any facts. This idle speculation and building straw men seems to be your stock in trade. How would you know any of this?
Bullcrap based on a straw man and idle speculation.
I cannot elaborate in any reasonable manner to bullcrap based on idle speculation. When you start basing your coments on facts we can all recognize, those comments will be worth elaborating on.
I’ve said elsewhere that we have to be willing to take off the gloves where the Jewish left is concerned — and I agree that “drek” is a not-unsuitable assessment of the situation. That being said, I hardly think the example of the Sicari’i is what’s called for. In the end, there was no “national cleansing” to result from their antics. We need to think this thru soberly, Yamit.
What part of so-freakin’-what? do you not grasp?
I just finished telling you it doesn’t matter to me what anybody calls it; you seem a trifle slow on the uptake.
If packaging counts with you more than substance, fine. Can’t say that surprises me.
Call me anything you like; it changes nothing.
The subject of the thread, however, was not YoursTruly OR my ‘hubris’ (such as it may, or may not, be).
The subject of the thread was Binyamin Netanyahu’s hubris, or more specifically (as I ‘speculated’), his coming across as “too clever by half.”
Your frantic attempt to insist on the importance of the US-Israel relationship — together with your constant refrain of how Americans have spent so much money on Israel — does seem to make you something of a one-trick pony (at least as to your input on this site).
And I must say I can’t help wondering what is the basis for your interest in the Jewish state.
You’re not Jewish.
You’re not “Christian” in any but the cultural-milieu sense (if that), certainly not in any doctrinal sense associated with Restorationism [viz., Christian Zionism].
So there seems not to be any preexisting bond that one could attribute to your purported interest.
You’ve said, on occasion, that you work with Jews in your locality on (one assumes) pro-Israel projects of one sort or another. That’s the only apparent link, and even there I’ve still no clue as to the reason for that cooperation.
Would you care to elaborate?
Insisting that idle speculation is real would be called hubris by the Greeks:-))
As I’ve said Eagle, I really don’t give a rip what you or anybody else choose to call it.
I care about the phenomenon itself.
Because what it does, it does as a consequence of what it is — not of how it’s labelled.
“I think the Greeks have a word for it: hubris.”
Quite so.
Well, I wouldn’t know about the “absolutely” part of it — but just-the-same, kind words always welcome; my thanks, Andrew.
Once in a while a little discovery will seem to come from out of ‘Nowhere’ and just hit me in the face.
Eagle calls it “idle speculation,” to be dismissed for lack of “evidence.”
I call it intuition (among other things).
But it doesn’t matter what name one gives it.
(You could CALL it spaghetti-with-marinara, for all I care.)
What matters (to YoursTruly) is that said faculty has saved my sorry arse more times than I can count.
So I’ve come to trust it.
But it’s NOT “made up… out of whole cloth.”
If it were made up, I could at least, take some credit for it.
The truly humiliating thing about it is that my ego can’t take any “credit” for it — precisely because I didn’t do any “work” to arrive at it.
INteresting. Caroline is cute too. Israel will sooner or later will have to thumb its nose at the UN.
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The last time I checked I was a tiny fraction of this forum, which shows who around here is intellectually challenged, who has an unhealthy, insecure ego, and who is challenged from the neck up and the neck down. It’s the favorite trio of the Hamas guys:-))
Heh guys cut AE some slack, after-all he is challenged, from the neck up. That’s the only part of his anatomy that’s verifiable.
As Glenn Beck has proved beyond any reasonable doubt, even some Jews are idiots:-))
The last time I checked I was a very tiny voice on “these boards” but a thorn in the side of those with the hubris to pretend that they are “helping” Israel by dividing it from its only ally, when they are actually aiding and abetting its enemies, either intentionally like Soros and J-Street, or unintentionally like the 400 idiotic, liberal NY Rabbis who became Soros’ pawns.
Hamas hates people like me and loves these guys.
Nobody is allowed to write anything on these boards except AE – his opinions are actually facts and your opinions are not needed here. “When I want your opinion I’ll give it to you.” Hubris applies to you perfectly AE. Thanks for illustrating it for us.
Andrew, the Brits have an expression for Dweller’s comments called “idle speculation” – unrelated to any evidence. Bibi is simply playing the game and this detractors are not smart enough to know it.
The last time I checked, Bibi was elected to be as smart as he deems necessary. Most of his detractors would not be elected dog-catcher.
The Brits have an expression, “idle speculation” – unrelated to any evidence. You just made this idle speculation up out of whole cloth, like writing fiction.
More idle speculation unrelated to any evidence. If you really believe this, work to vote him out of office.
I think you just proved your own theory in this post:-))
Hey Dweller, you could use another analogy – Shakespeares’ Macbeth. He thought he was smart. He started dealing with the witches and thought he could use them and play them. Only at the end, when it it was too late, did he realize that it was he who had been been played and outsmarted by the witches.
I forgot a few.
That is absolutely brilliant dweller. I think the greeks have a word for it: hubris.
Your lips to God’s ears……
“Smart” may be necessary yet not sufficient.
The Brits have an expression: “too clever by half.”
The encapsulated image therein is of one who presumes to rely exclusively on cutesy skull games.
Over time, the egotistical player comes to believe in the game he plays because of his demonstrated skill at it — and thus to be lulled, by indulging himself in the playing, into a false sense of security that overlooks the insincerity of his adversaries, and underestimates even the lengths to which they are yet prepared to go (the unplumbed depths to which they are still willing to sink) in pursuit of their ends.
When they finally spring their trap, it becomes clear that he has, in effect, outsmarted himself.
His problem was not that he ever resorted to the aforesaid skull games; they are among the many tools that one expects (and hopes) to find in a seasoned politico’s belt.
His problem was that he relied on these devices: without grasping the broader scope and trajectory of events — and while losing sight of the reason why he entered public life in the first place.
The game had become a drug
to which he had become addicted.
Not that politics is by any means the only line of activity where somebody ever wound up outsmarting himself.
It can happen to anybody.
Here is some more information on the 400 NY Rabbis from an intelligent American Jew in the overly optimistic hope that some of his wisdom may rub off on Yamit:
http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2011/03/defending-glenn-beck.html
Quote:
Glenn Beck deserved to be defended by the Jewish community from Day One when he was attacked by 400 reform rabbis for criticizing George Soros of all people. But after three segments this past week in which Beck gave powerful support to the Jews of Itamar, he is even more worthy of the Jewish community’s support. Some of that support was forthcoming in this comment:
“Although one can possibly understand Soros’s behavior in Nazi-occupied, Jew-hunting Budapest, Soros himself has described those years as “the most exciting time of my life.”[i] He has also reported that, “The early stages of the Russian occupation were as exciting and interesting-in many ways even more interesting and adventurous-than the German occupation…”
Can anyone imagine Elie Wiesel, a genuine Holocaust survivor, uttering such sentiments? One might also ask why 400 rabbis would offer even an implicit defense of Soros against Glenn Beck’s attack, given Soros’s lifelong hostility to Israel and his publicly stated disdain for the Jewish religion.
Unquote.
I hope Ted is reading this because he routinely lectures me when I correctly conclude that Yamit and Hamas are on the same page. Doesn’t this sound exactly like what Hamas would love to see?
Like a good Soros follower, you don’t seem to grasp what is going on. Perhaps some columns by your fellow Jews may help, though I’m not holding my breath, though even Abe Foxman seems to have understood:
http://www.jewishjournal.com/jews_and_mormons/item/glenn_beck_vs_400_rabbis_39110207/
Quote:
Mr. Foxman, a Holocaust survivor, expressed my sentiments exactly: “While we have said many times that Nazi comparisons are offensive and inappropriate when used for political attacks, in my view it is wrongheaded to single out only Fox News on this issue, when both liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, can share equal guilt in making trivializing comparisons to the Holocaust. Furthermore, the open letter signed by hundreds of rabbis is a trivialization in itself… at a time when Holocaust denial is rampant in much of the Arab world, where anti-Semitism remains a serious concern, and where the Iranian leader has openly declared his desire to ‘wipe Israel off the map,’ surely there are greater enemies and threats to the Jewish people than the pro-Israel stalwarts Rupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes and Glenn Beck.”
Unquote.
You have obviously exceeded your Peter Principle limit ages ago. Bibi still has a long way to go.
No, you don’t, and the proof lies in practically everything you write here, including your failure to grasp that Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin are far stronger supporters of Israel and its security that you are, whose biggest supporters now are the Hamas guys who LOVE to see you try and divide Israel from its ONLY ALLY.
Time to resurrect the Sicariim.
I’m coming to the unhappy conclusion that the only way to rid ourselves of such drek is a national cleansing civil war.
In the end it looks like it’s them or us. We have had civil wars in the past with mixed results. The democratic process works against the vital interests of the Jewish people and the State of Israel.
Head up: the same traitorous people again and again.
May the earth swallow them up.
And do tell what those 400 rabbis where complaining about?
That may be so but: 1) I am not PM of Israel 2) It’s not about smarts it’s about performance 3)It’s about character of the man and his performance is more reflective of Character than smarts. Think along the lines of PETER PRINCIPLE!!
No argument from me but that being the case, I’m sure you must agree that I have more smarts in my little pinky than you do.
What did you fail to understand when I wrote, “Caroline’s almost always right, just like Sarah Palin,…”
I think that’s what he was saying, which is why the meeting went on for 7 hours. What’s the harm in talking? Unless Israel becomes our 51st. state, the decisions on Israel are the responsibility of the Israeli government.
I checked and found that these were Israeli police, not American police. Since Avi Liberman is such a tough guy, why don’t you call him up and tell him to knock it off?
…Reuven Boruch writes:
If Caroline were the PM of Israel, She’d put President Obama in his place….
I doubt it. Caroline’s almost always right, just like Sarah Palin, but they have the luxury of neither being responsible nor accountable.
If she were PM she would tap dance just like Bibi, then do what is necessary. Bibi is smarter than all his detractors on this forum COMBINED who seem to be clueless that he is playing a game. He knows what he’s doing.
Not true. and I’ll tell you why…
You see her personality as a Columnist…. Remember, she’s the Deputy Editor of the Jerusalem Post.. quite a lofty perch if you ask me…
Does she try to defend PM Netanyahu, by explaining the intricacies of the political climate in the Middle East?
No… Shes a very straight forward, perhaps a bit blunt, pundit…
Read her column on a regular basis.. I have been following her for over three years…
Some of her columns are timeless…
I’m not putting her on a pedestal…. You can see for yourself.. she has dozens of columns archived on her website.
….These Bibi-hating geniuses can piss and moan all they like, the real threat internal threat to Israel comes from George Soros, J-Street and intellectually bankrupt NY Rabbis bought and paid for by Soros:
Quote:
J-Street suffered a humiliating defeat yesterday on Capitol Hill – which means Israel scored an important victory.
The George Soros-funded “pro-Israel” group inexplicably mobilized its machinery to oppose a bipartisan letter that merely called on President Obama to pressure the Palestinian Authority to end its longstanding practice of inciting its people to commit terrorism against the Jewish state.
That may be true.. but here are some facts….
PM Netanyahu met with Secretary of State Clinton for 7 hrs one day…
This is the same S.O.S. who was the keynote speaker at the Annual Black Tie Dinner (held in Wash. DC) for the “Friends Of Palistine”.. a Pro-Palistine, anti Israel org…
Are you aware of the Pressure that President Obama has put on PM Netanyahu to cede East Jerusalem as a show of “good faith”..
Why isn’t PM Netanyahu simply saying…. The Subject of Jerusalem is Non-Negotiable. Period…
Are you also aware of a recent column in which it has been reported that there are certain areas of East Jerusalem where Jews are forbidden to go to..
The Police won’t allow Jews to walk in certain sections… Arabs, on the other hand, are free to walk the streets anywhere in Jerusalem, unimpeded.
MOVE OVER BIBI YOU ARE NOT TOUGH ENOUGH FOR THE JOB… LIBERMAN SHOULD TAKE OVER . HE DOESN”T TAKE ANY……FROM ANYONE
jg
Since you and Soros and the 400 Rabbis are on the same page as to US-Israeli relations, you should know from your internal memos from Soros that I am not with Soros.
What Beck apologized for was not the “Rabbi thing” but for comparing Reform Judaism to Islamic Extremism.
http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2011/02/glenn-beck-apology-admits-making-one-of-the-worst-analogies-of-all-time.html
Bibi has more smarts in his left pinky than you have between your ears.
Beck publicly apologized over the rabbis thing so who are you with: Beck or Soros? I think Soros, you protest tooo much.
You never replied to whether you are still receiving food stamps?
BB has polling numbers about his record as PM around 30% and dropping like stone. Most of those who give him positive numbers are either relatives or on the payroll. So you are smarter and know more than the overwhelming majority of we Israelis? You must be on Soros payroll unless you work gratis.
These Bibi-hating geniuses can piss and moan all they like, the real threat internal threat to Israel comes from George Soros, J-Street and intellectually bankrupt NY Rabbis bought and paid for by Soros:
http://townhall.com/columnists/joelmowbray/2011/04/04/soros-backed_group_defends_incitement_against_israel
Quote:
J-Street suffered a humiliating defeat yesterday on Capitol Hill – which means Israel scored an important victory.
The George Soros-funded “pro-Israel” group inexplicably mobilized its machinery to oppose a bipartisan letter that merely called on President Obama to pressure the Palestinian Authority to end its longstanding practice of inciting its people to commit terrorism against the Jewish state.
Unquote.
I doubt it. Caroline’s almost always right, just like Sarah Palin, but they have the luxury of neither being responsible nor accountable.
If she were PM she would tap dance just like Bibi, then do what is necessary. Bibi is smarter than all his detractors on this forum COMBINED who seem to be clueless that he is playing a game. He knows what he’s doing.
I rest my case.
Chad Gadya in the Middle East LATMA English Version By Caroline Glick
Had Gadia en ladino
Had Gadia
Chad Gadya
One little goat, one little goat that my father bought for two coins
One little goat, one little goat.
Along came a cat and ate the goat that my father bought for two coins, one little goat one little goat
Along came a stick and beat the dog that…
Along came a fire and burnt the stick that…
Along came some water and extinguished the fire that…
Along came an ox and drank the water that…
Along came a slaughterer and slaughtered the ox that…
Along came the angel of death and killed the slaughterer that…
Along came the Holy One blessed be He and killed the angel of death that…
Along came a dog and bit the cat that ate the goat that my father bought for two coins…
Chad Gadya (Aramaic: chad gadya, “one little goat, or “one kid”; Hebrew: “gedi echad”) is a playful cumulative song, written in Aramaic with Hebrew words interspersed. In Ashkenazi Jewish custom, it is sung at the end of the Passover Seder, which is a Jewish ritual feast that marks the beginning of the Jewish holiday of Passover. It is believed to be derived from Medieval German folk music.
He knows how to pick losers. What does that say about him?
The fact is those with successful track records won’t touch him.
After the Inspector General gets through with him on the new BB gate he might not need a campaign team for 203. he might need a team of good lawyers. Lawyers aren’t choosy or money they will represent anyone.
13.40 caroline on the mark, hitting the nail on the head. Now hit it into the leftist anti Israel Jews
Calroline, good for you. Thank you for saying it like it is. Do not let anyone push you around. Tell it to Netanyahu
Caroline is a great soul !
I have less respect for Netenyahu
My nickname for him is “the armchair” since he is so foldable…
Caroline or Bibi’s father should be far better PMs ……………
Reuven Boruch said,
Reuven, how dare you speak of Caroline and that incompetent in the same breath!
Why was this host so rude? Every time Caroline started to answer a question the host interjected. I don’t know how Caroline stayed so cool? I would have shouted, just shut up and let me answer the question.
If Caroline were the PM of Israel, She’d put President Obama in his place….
Living off the Wall
Netanyahu off the wall
Caroline, don’t hold you breath about Bibi showing backbone,
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Grass will sooner grow in your cheeks and Bibi will still not be courageous. Bibi only shows backbone in the face of Moshe Feiglin -whom you dismiss -but in the face of the Israeli Left and by extension the EU and by extension the US. he cringes like a Court Jew.