Likud closes gap with Labor from previous polls, and Netanyahu further outpaces Herzog as most fitting for PM, as Jewish Home lapses.
INN
Two new polls Wednesday provide the first data since Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s much touted Congress address on Tuesday, and show that Likud has evened gaps shown in the last poll before the speech which saw it behind Labor 24 to 21.
In the first of the polls by Channel 2, Labor and Hatnua’s “Zionist Camp” gets 24 again, but Likud is up to 23.
The joint Arab list comes in third with 13 mandates, while Yesh Atid and Jewish Home tie for fourth with 12 apiece. Jewish Home has relapsed into its slump after a recent poll gave it 14 in the first such result since Knesset lists were submitted.
Moshe Kahlon’s Kulanu gets eight mandates, and Yisrael Beytenu, Shas, United Torah Judaism and Meretz all come in at six. Eli Yishai’s Yachad – Ha’am Itanu joint list with Otzma Yehudit passes the threshold at four seats.
The poll also asked about which candidate is viewed as most fitting for the role of prime minister, and the incumbent Netanyahu continues to lead widely with 47%, as opposed to a mere 28% who sided with Labor party head Yitzhak Herzog.
The results constitute a 3% rise for Netanyahu from a similar poll last week, and a 4% drop for Herzog, in an indication of the positive reception Netanyahu’s address enjoyed. Meanwhile 21% didn’t know who was most appropriate, while 4% said both were just as fitting.
In the second poll by Channel 10, Likud and Labor came out tied at 23 mandates each.
Yesh Atid and the joint Arab list came in at 13 apiece, and Jewish Home dropped further to 11 seats.
Kulanu enjoyed a stronger showing in the poll with ten mandates, Shas got seven, United Torah Judaism six, Meretz and Yisrael Beytenu at five each, and Ha’am Itanu again passed with four.
yamit82 Said:
there is the possibility that they are turning egypt into the Gulf state hessians and building them for war with Iran and proxies. the gulf seem pretty scared of Iran now. they have all been talking of an arab league army.
@ bernard ross:
The cooperation with Egypt is manufactured based on immediate not long or intermediate interests.
@ yamit82:
Commnet to Bernard Ross in moderation as well????????????
@ bernard ross:
Part of what I wrote to Wolly which is in moderation.
The cooperation with Egypt is manufactured based on interests.
The only real beneficial part of the Camp David accords with Egypt are the separation of forces clauses restricting the Egyptian military in the Sibai to basically para military police forces. Since Sharon and mostly BB those clauses have been breached when Israel allowed the Egyptian Army to move nearly a whole division of the best forces in the Sinai to combat the Salafists and Hamas forces. The Egyptian Army was numerous enough and strong enough to take on those dissident forces mostly Bedouin. That they haven’t is because they didn’t want to they wanted to apply pressure on Israel to allow more Egyptina and elite forces into the Sina with the excuse theat Egpt could not control or defeat the dissidents without such forces which keep on growing. Israel has agreed for narrow immediate interests.
We have been conned and the conned allowed themselves to be conned with their eyes wide shut. Like: “Penny wise pound foolish.”
Again there is no reason that a country who cannot afford to feed it’s population and has no eistential enemies needs to spend so much on the military and train with an eye and planning to attack and fight only against Israel. The Saudis are their main bankroll for this and other projects.
Comment to wooly in moderation 🙁
@ woolymammoth:
The cooperation with Egypt is manufactured based on interests.
The only real beneficial part of the Camp David accords with Egypt are the separation of forces clauses restricting the Egyptian military in the Sibai to basically para military police forces. Since Sharon and mostly BB those clauses have been breached when Israel allowed the Egyptian Army to move nearly a whole division of the best forces in the Sinai to combat the Salafists and Hamas forces. The Egyptian Army was numerous enough and strong enough to take on those dissident forces mostly Bedouin. That they haven’t is because they didn’t want to they wanted to apply pressure on Israel to allow more Egyptina and elite forces into the Sina with the excuse theat Egpt could not control or defeat the dissidents without such forces which keep on growing. Israel has agreed for narrow immediate interests.
We have been conned and the conned allowed themselves to be conned with their eyes wide shut. Like: “Penny wise pound foolish.”
Again there is no reason that a country who cannot afford to feed it’s population and has no eistential enemies needs to spend so much on the military and train with an eye and planning to attack and fight only against Israel. The Saudis are their main bankroll for this and other projects.
The Russians and French are active in support and supply to Egypt and America is being phased out along with their influence to keep and maintain the peace treaty with Egypt they were the guarantor of that treaty. Just like Iran is not an immediate threat to Israel neither is Egypt but the dots need be connected and acted on now so if Israel is prepared it might deter the inevitable.
yamit82 Said:
true you have. And even though I believe there have been understandings with the GCC and their proxy egypt for years I have always said it is temporary and can change over night, the minute there is a real rapprochement with iran and gulf they will have to figure out what to do with all the jihadis and armies.
yamit82 Said:
I have noticed that even other operations there appears to have also been a misreading of enemy motives and goals with too much stock put on reading their motives. for all we know there could be a grand design against Israel rather than Iran. If suddenly Iran and the gulf changed course Israel would have to deal with potentialities rather than rely on a singular reading of motives and goals. Israel believes too much in its ability to read the plans of others.
Bear Klein Said:
Rather than sit in opposition for 2-3 or 4 years, they will sit. Only the most ideological parties might balk the other political whores will jump and BB will pay he always has and there is no reason to believe he has changed now. Your hopes and optimism are I am confident unfounded…..
The only party that will not join or be asked to join a coalition of the left are Bennett and Yeshai’s party.
@ yamit82:Sure, maybe, perhaps, some day after Hamas is vanquished and Iran is neutered and ISIS has been ground to dust. Yamit, what would Sisi’s motive be? He is clearly benefiting from The Egypt/Israel alliance. Maybe in a decade or two. Israel should remain suspicious of all at all times, from that standpoint I agree and respect your insight. Yes, Egypt must be considered a potential foe, always.
@ bernard ross:
I have been playing Cato on this site for years warning that Egypt not Iran is our greatest existential threat….
Egypt has gone to war with Israel 4 timees since 1948. The country is ruled by the military who are modern day version of Nassarists pan Arab ideology. They have no obvious enemies not even Iran and yet even though being Bankrupt they are modernizing and building a military that in modernity and quality even surpass Israels….They have a million and a half men in their military and can handle Islamist insurgency easily with what they have yet they continue to build and improve their military. They also have a sophisticated bio chemical warfare industry and an advanced Nuke program. With all of the preceeding they are also along our Southern border. Israeli leaders bith political and military have pretty much discounted Egypt from our military threats planning and are purposely it seems ignoring all of the signs preferring to rely on the Peace agreement and American backing and obligations to insure it’s continuance.
Miscalculated misconceptions led to the near disaster in 73 and seems to be repeating itself today.
Israel is being conned by Egypt and are happy to be conned.
I am really concerned today even more so than Egypt under Morsi and the MB. Sisi is more dangerous and he is smart.
The US Adm continues to deceive the American people and Israel, while the American people confirms that she has the back of Israel.
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
You are correct about the past! I just hope he has learned lessons. I think the politics are different this time and their is no one to negotiate with (like there was before ha ha) and Obama has little influence with Bibi.
So based on that I think this will be a right, religious / Kulanu and I hope it includes Yachad.
The only thing I fear is that he so much may not want to include Yachad. So if the seats are not there without Yachad what will he try for a coalition?
I do not believe Yesh Atid and the religious can sit in the same government. So it depends how many seats they get compared to the Religious.
@ Bear Klein:
One has to refer to Netanyahu track record. Not reassuring. He incorporated first Barak little tramps and then Livni and Lapid.
I do not trust him on anything other than being a great speechster.
@ Bear Klein:
+ 1 or – 1
We cannot come to a better resolution.
. http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=23933
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2: What is the margin of error?
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
Very succinctly put, Mar HaLevi 2.
The polls are always suspect as don’t ever forget…the likes of gorg Soros have invested serious money trying to buy this election. This is one nasty wicked evil individual. I believe Israelis are paid off to attend leftist rallies and hand out propaganda. Sure beats working for a living. Look at all the wanna be journalists who found a home at Haaretz, or as some call it Ha Zoo-etz. Netanyahu will win. Obama-Livni-Herzog is the same as voting for Jimmy Carter, it will destroy Israel, that is, in fact a Suicide Party, a Zionist Party NOT, that is another Big Lie.
The cumulative poll we rely on shows this.
Likud: 25
Obama-Livni-Hertzog 21
Jewish Home 14
Islamic block 12
Lapid: 9
UTJ (Othodox) 8
Lieberman 7
Kohalon 6
Ishai=Otzmah 6
meretz 5
Shas 4
20% undecided.
We decided not to continue polling as changes are unlikely.