Res ipsa locutor. The thing speaks for itself. Of course when three Jewish establishments are attacked in three days, antisemitism is at play until proven otherwise. How can the federation say the attacks “are in any way motivated by anti-Semitism”? How can they know this? Ted Belman
TORONTO — Montreal’s Jewish federation says there is no evidence that firebomb attacks on two kosher restaurants and a private home in a heavily Jewish suburb over three days are anti-Semitic in nature.
“There is absolutely no evidence” that the firebombing of Cafe Shalom on Friday, a private home on Saturday and the Chops Resto Bar early Sunday morning, “while disturbing, to be sure, are in any way motivated by anti-Semitism,” Federation CJA said in a statement.
Approximately 30 people were inside Chops restaurant, in the city’s Snowdon district, at 12:40 a.m. Sunday when a Molotov cocktail was thrown through the window, the Montreal Gazette reported. No one was injured.
Witnesses reportedly saw two suspects flee on foot. The device did not ignite.
Chops was hit by a firebomb last October. The resulting fire was extinguished quickly, but water damage from the sprinkler system was extensive.
On Saturday, a device was thrown into a home in the predominantly Jewish suburb of Cote-St-Luc, causing light damage. The Gazette reported that six people, including children aged 7 and 14, were inside the home at 2:15 a.m. when the incident occurred.
On Friday, Cafe Shalom, one block west of Chops, was hit by two incendiary devices, causing light damage, mostly by water from the sprinkler system, police said.
Federation CJA said it “is in constant contact with all levels of law enforcement.”
The agency said it “will refrain from making any specific pronouncements at this time, as we believe this would only serve to undermine ongoing police investigations and handling of this matter.”
@ yamit82:
You sound very bitter. So called ‘preaching’ cannot be a one way street. You know how we are. Put 12 Jews in a room and get 13 different opinions. Just don’t want to see you on the slipppery slope. Take the high road Yamit.
dove Said:
Don’t preach to me Dove, my mothers family comes from Montreal, and have visited more times than I wish to count. I was born and spent my formative years only three hours South of Montreal and have had many encounters with them when they vacationed in NYS Adirondack Lakes and Camping areas, where I spent most of my summers and winters skiing. I even got arrested once in Montreal which did not endear me to your “Frogs” nor induce me to feel any sensitivity towards them, then or now.
As for me caring what gentiles say about the Jews? Unless it’s said to my face I don’t really care all that much.
Where were You then? “A Jewish Soldier” By Jack Engelhard
dove Said:
I never said all “Frogs” were bad although I have yet to meet any good ones but I suppose the Law of averages would produce a few. Then so what? I claim the right to despise and to malign those who hate me for who I am. That’s normal and BTW quite Jewish.
@ yamit82:
Easy for you Yamit – former American to fire shots from Israel into Canada – you have never lived here. Frenchy frogs??? You are sooooo sensitive about what is being said about Jews – how about having some sensitivity yourself? Not all French are bad. You KNOW that calling the French a frog is VERY OFFENSIVE – WHICH IS YOUR OBVIOUS INTENT.
CuriousAmerican Said:
For the first time in the history of Quebec the Frenchy frogs have someone to look down on. I’d call it a tie. Scum and Scum = Scum
There is no such thing as a Harmless Arab any more than a harmless scorpion or rattlesnake.
From my experience and from all I have researched christian Arabs are more hateful towards Jews then the Muslim garden variety Arab. Throughout history they always sided with the Muslim majority against the Jews. So what if they hate Muslims they hate Jews More. I hope the Muslims wipe them out in the ME or at least kick them out.
As for Jews remaining in Quebec or even Canada. A case of Masochists meeting Sadists. I have no empathy or sympathy for Masochists especially Jewish ones. What ever they get they deserve.
CuriousAmerican Said:
If the choice is between random and anti-Semitic, the answer is clearly anti-Semitic. But if the choice is between an attack particular to one of the targets and anti-Semitic, at this point we simply don’t know. Even if the attack is criminally motivated, we certainly shouldn’t assume the attackers are Jewish.
Kosher restaurants?!
A home?!
Religious Jews have gone after each other in New Square New York.
But bombing homes is not typical. People religious enough to keep kosher usually do not bomb homes with Jewish children.
It might be a gang wanting protection money.
But 2 kosher restaurants and a home.
This sounds almost unbelieveable to not be anti-Semitism.
It doesn’t matter what the police say – or certain politically correct groups. For those of us who are recipients of anti-Semitism we KNOW. We don’t need to be told one way or the other. Justice please – and if the world continues in denial justice will occur anyway……just wait and see. smile…..smile…..
Are these 3 incidents inter-connected or intra-connected?
I have to assume at this point in time that Michael is correct. Maybe there is an internal monetary issue in the jewish community that we do not know of!
We have our own idiots you know – some of whom are quite prepared to kill, steal and set fire when and where necessary in their ethical code
Let us not make fools of ourselves. It is too soon to jump to conclusions. How can I say this? Simple. The easiest way to disguise a private crime is to make it appear to be a public crime. For instance, did one of the victims fail to pay a debt to the wrong people? Attack one victim and the police will focus on private motive. Attack three victims and IsraPundit and its ommentators are all yelling anti-Semitism. The correct questions are whether the police are conducing a genuine investigation that will conclude the attack was anti-Semitic, if that is where the evidence leads, and whether the Jewish community is staying on top of the police to assure that a legitimate investigation occurs.
One of the reasons that the anti-Semitic incidents are downplayed is to patronize the Jews. What we don’t know can’t hurt us?
Ted, your comments were: How can the federation say the attacks “are not in any way motivated by anti-Semitism”? How can they know this?
I grew up in Montreal, left while it was best to do so – when bombs were going off in the mail boxes. So, from personal experience the answer is simple enough: These creatures have been consistent in their approach for the last 50 years that I’m aware of. What is most important to them is to be “P.C.” (politically correct), little else matters. This is quite literally true, no matter how hard the Jews of Montreal and Quebec are hit, always bow down to the goyim, always take the side of the goyim, never rock the boat, NEVER! When one understands that, everything else is understandable.
If anyone desires confirmation, its simple enough, ask them directly to show what they do when Jews and Jewish premises are attacked on the annual St. John Bapiste day rampages through the streets of Montreal by the goyim, targeting Jews and Jewish premises.
Labo(u)r contracts are designed to end in mid winter in the city immediately north of Montreal – Laval, then the workers go out on strike, then immediately they go to the Jewish neighborhoods and turn off the services like electricity, gas, etc. If you’ve not lived through -30 and -40 degrees, with little children, no heat, and no light, you can not imagine what its really like. What do these wise one do? In all the years that I dwelled there, absolutely nothing. More important is to be P.C., obviously.
In nazi Germany, there were those who co-operated with the Germans, until they in turn were also put into the ovens . . . . . .
To be clear, Stephane Gendron is an idiot but he is the mayor of a small, nothing town in Quebec and therefore of insignificant consequence.
The real problem facing Jews in both the U.S. and Canada is coming from our own ranks, Jewish groups that claim to speak for all Jews but that cannot bend over far enough or fast enough to play down what they see as inconvenient truths. That includes, for example, the Toronto Board of Rabbis who recently publicly condemned Pamela Geller’s talk in that city but said nothing when a Chabad Rabbi who had originally agreed to host her talk backed down when police strong armed him.
In this instance, it includes the Center for Israel and Jewish Affairs (CIJA) who claim to speak for ALL Jews but whose Montreal spokesman David Ouellette was quick to deny the anti-Semitic nature of the restaurant attacks because the police assured him that they were not anti-Semitic. “Don’t worry folks. Nothing to see here. Move along.” It also includes the Combined Jewish Appeal (CJA) who echoed the same response.
I have personally witnessed a representative of CIJA interrupt a recent talk in the Toronto area being given by a scholar speaking on Israel’s legal right to Judea and Samaria just to make the point to everyone there that CIJA did not agree with his premise. He then sat down and told his seatmate that he was pleased with himself for having distanced CIJA from the speaker.
Who are these people who claim to represent the Jewish community but are either so far out of touch with reality or who are afraid to face reality? Who are they to play down attacks on Jewish businessmen before they know the facts? Who are they to condemn Geller but not her islamist and anti-Semitic adversaries? Who are they to interrupt and embarrass pro-Israel speakers who are properly informing audiences about the international laws that support Israel’s claims? Indeed, who are they?
For those of us who live here and stay in the loop it is a no brainer that there is anti-semitism not only in Quebec but all over the country. Don’t forget that during the last referendum the separtists claim they lost because of the ‘ethnic vote’ referring to Jews. Anyone else remember that? We are part of America too. North America which is made up of TWO countries. It seems that Americans still need lessons in geography.
You have a famous mayor in Quebec, Stephane Gendron, welcoming, encouraging Islamic immigration while slandering Israel as a Nazi-state
The ADL gets upset over Gibson’s harmless idiocies, but Gibson never firebombed a kosher restaurant nor did Gibson advocate massive Muslim immigration into American cities like Gendron did.
What is amazing is that Canada deported Ernst Zundel for Holocaust denial.
Obnoxious, but not a menace.
Yet Stephane Gendron is a future threat, and nothing is done to him.
Who is a bigger threat. Goofy Zundel, or Stephane Gendron.
Montreal is heavily Arabic.
In fact, Arabic has surpassed Spanish to become the third most common language in Quebec.
French ==> English ==> Arabic ==> Spanish
Until 20 years ago, almost all Arab in Canada were Maronite Catholic Lebanese and Harmless. Most Maronite Catholics are favorable to Israel. They hate Islam.
But Sunni and Shia have recently moved in.
10th Annual Lebanese Montreal Festival in Montreal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Jl5EDapKE
An Arabic Show (from Lebanon) about Lebanese Supermarkets in Montreal
Even the Arabs in the Mideast know about how Arabic Montreal is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLyiWV4L9f4
HALAL Montreal
http://www.halalmontreal.com/
Lebanese – Shia
http://www.altaib.com/index.php
I am American but I correspond with some wonderful Lebanese-Canadian Christians.
Recently, Muslims have been moving in in large numbers to Canada, they tell me. Prior to that, almost all Arabs were Catholic French and English speaking Lebanese Lebanese Christians have been in Canada for 125 years, but the Muslim arrival is a new trend.
One Lebanese-Canadian Christian told me he avoids a halal place because when you go inside, he saw Hezbollah calendars.
But of course, Quebecois French produce their own anti-Semites
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p46QJ693QUE
This is shocking to me.
In America, you do not see this, at least until a few years ago.
But in 2002, Arabists started a violent riot in Montreal when Netanyahu went to Concordia to speak.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcedmeGewF0
12 years ago you would never have seen such a violent anti-Israel protest like that in the USA, but it was already common already then in Canada.
That surprised me. GREAT DOCUMENTARY!
Mind you, I do not mind free speech; but Netanyahu had free speech rights, too. The could have protested without violence. They acted like a mob.
However, the USA is 0.8% Muslim while Canada is 3% Muslim. It makes a difference. On a percentage basis, Canada is 3-1/2 times as Muslim as the USA.
So even though I am American, I know enough about Canada, and Montreal to have flipped my wig when the CJA seemingly dismissed anti-Semitism as the cause in Montreal.
There are rare cases of feuding Hasidic groups as happened in New Square, New York, who can get violent. But even, there, the feuding Hasids do not bomb houses with kids.
For that you need a terrorist.
I am very surprised that the CJA is quiet.
I get upset when here, in the USA, you have the ADL calling everything anti-Semitism. They overdo it.
But when you have two kosher restaurants and one house firebombed, I would think there is no doubt.
Montreal is full of Quebecois French (many with a history of strong anti-Semitism) and now full of Arabs, and they are not sure if it is anti-Semitic.
If you want to see how bad it is in Quebec
The Quebecois Mayor worked to bring in Musims to Quebec
My recommendation … The Jews should get out of Canada real quick if their own organizations can be cowed that easily.
Ted, you are going to get mad at me … but as much as Canadians complain about us Americans, Canada is nuts.