Ellen Horowitz has graced our pages before. She often invites contoversy when she writes on The Judeo-Christian Divide.
Losing out…
Sir, – In “Don’t reject Christian friendship” (September 4), Malcolm Hedding, executive director of the International Christian Embassy Jerusalem, accused me of prejudice and applied the analogy of apartheid to my defense of the Jewish heritage.
His indictment is untenable. That I maintain the Jewish right, as well as the right of all religions, to function as independent faith communities, with distinct traditions and theology, would surely not fall into the category of racism.
I can’t recall whether Mr. Hedding and I have ever met, but he feels he knows me well enough to state: “For her, there can be no such thing as Jewish-Christian friendship, solidarity and collaboration… I note that while Ms. Horowitz is very strident in her claims, she has never come in to see us. Isolation is always a good breeding ground for prejudice.”
I can assure Mr. Hedding that many of my reservations regarding Judeo-Christian trends, and calls for a Messianic Jewish restoration, are based on personal observation through my direct involvement with the Christian evangelical community.
I was featured in a widely promoted and televised documentary with Donna Holbrook, Canadian director of ICEJ, Mr. Hedding’s organization. I’ve worked at ICEJ’s Feast of the Tabernacles, have lectured to and engaged in business dealings with the evangelical community, and have welcomed groups of Christian tourists to my moshav in the Golan Heights. I have also consulted with and collaborated with Christian friends on my articles covering these very issues.
I did not accuse Christians of robbing the Jewish people of their birthright, but I did suggest that my own people have lost a part of themselves – sold their birthright, so to speak – in an attempt to relieve themselves of their universal role and responsibilities to all of mankind.
I certainly won’t reject Christian friendship, as long as our relationship is built with an understanding and respect for differences rather than an insistence on seeking out common theological denominators.
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GEMAR HATIMA TOVA
TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE
VELAMINIM VELAMALSHINIM AL TEHI TIKVA
re: Ms Horowitz piece in Arutz 7, Yea, I more or less agree with here on her salient points and would add just this. Most here on the left are willing to abridge and vocally advocate defending Democracy against most religious and especially Nationalistic religious and secular Jews here in the LAND OF ISRAE, even at the expense of democracy and democratic values and norms. How much more is it to use the same logic in defending Judaism from those who wish to usurp and bring down the very foundation of the Jewish People and the State of Israel. To most Jews Belief in Christianity is a form of Idol Worship by which we are commanded by the same revered book of these Christians to resist even up to Obligatory war in order to protect ourselves and our God. Our god is not the same as Christian or Islamic God. This issue is so core to Judaism that rather than sucum we are commanded by mitzva to not only not compromise on this issue but to defend by the sword our rights of refusal even if it seems suicidal. It see and even seems to me after many years of observation with a few as an active participant that the major problem of the Jewish People especially here in the Land of Israel is that many if not most have left the galut but the galut has not left them. The basic concept of the classical Zionist enterprise that in building the land the land would rebuild them has been negated if it exists at all to a small footnote in Israeli and Jewish History.
Hellenism is going strong in the Jewish State, in the Jewish World. If History is any guide we will all pay a heavy price sooner or later for our Apostasy, as Individuals, as a State and as A People.
I think I have an argument with everybody here. Firstly I on one hand am fond of and appreciate the help and support of many Christians Who are for their own reasons every bit a Zionist Nationalist as I believe I am. At a Time when according to recent poll in America over 50% of the Jews could not care less about Israel with all that implies for our future and theirs; It is like a breath of fresh air to have so many millions of Christians around the world supporting us.
But: I am not naive, 2 millennium of butchery and discrimination by Christians on Jews cannot be wiped out by any recent declarations of love and support by the inheritors of this long anti Jewish tradition and history.
The Christian world is as divided theologically and ideologically as is the Jewish world today. As some Christians profess I believe a true love and respect for Jews and Israel the majority still do not. In any event those who are genuinely in support of Israel and Jewry I embrace and the rest can go to you know where.
I as a Jew and a man I owe the Christian world NOTHING! They owe us Everything, and I for one will be watching to see how strong they love us and support us even if many of us here reject them for the obvious reasons.
They maintain that they have no hidden agenda but there is always an agenda but if it does not manifest itself in overt negatives for Jews and Israel; I think we can live with that, so long as it is not obtrusive and offensive to we Jews, especially here in The Land of Israel.The Christians will then have to concede that in this context it is only we Jews who can and will determine what is or is not offensive to us, I don’t like the comparison with So. Africa no more than I like comparisons of us to the Nazis.
I do not impose myself on Christians to see the Light of the one God and not a trinity, I don’t go to their homes, countries, spend billions with the sole purpose of converting Christians to Judaism and find it hateful and disrespectful of them to attempt and execute their narrow beliefs on us in my home and in my country.This is where I draw the line. If Christians have a belief system where their scripture requires them to intrude on others against their will then I see no fundamental difference between Christianity and Islam. If Christians are willing to wait for the return of their Messiah, and if this does in fact occur then we may have a common theological ground, until then we wish to remain what and who we are and not to have additional conflict with our Christian friends.