I urge you all to take the time to watch this very important lecture by Dr Martin Sherman. Martin’s talk begins at 14:30. His introduction begins at 12:15.
He presents the only permanent long term solution to the Israel/Palestinian conflict that will work. No other solution comes close..
To listen to this lecture takes a serious commitment of time. But you owe it to yourself and to Israel to listen carefully.
I just changed the lecture video to the current version.
honeybee Said:
You could always import, Canada can spare some.
honeybee Said:
fruity yogurt smoothies
6 large strawberries
1 sliced banana
1 cup blueberries
6 ounces plain Greek yogurt
1 cup skim milk
1/4 cup almonds
Directions
1. Cut the tops off of five of the strawberries.
2. Place the strawberries, banana, blueberries, yogurt, milk, and almonds in a blender or food processor. Blend until smooth and creamy. Garnish with a strawberry.
honeybee Said:
yawl be good, Darlin
@ honeybee:
sinister, mysterious and dark.
@ honeybee:
Leave stuff for others to buy… 😛
Enjoy, we will carry on in your absence. 🙁
@ yamit82:
I am off to the flea market. Perfect day sunny but not hot , yawl be good, Darlin
M Devolin Said:
No ice on the Rio Grande.
M Devolin Said:
Are you sure you’re not a Texan, did you watch the “Bull Riding Finals” from Las Vegas. NV.?
yamit82 Said:
When I was 18 I threw away my rose colored glasses and bought black.
“So why are the best NHL players European.”
I don’t think so. You mean those who get paid good money to play over here and then choke when the going gets rough? We have, like I said, the best hockey players in the world. There are a couple kids on the way up who will, I’ve heard, be the next Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux. Euros are whiners. Whining to the ref is not our style, nor is faking injury to draw a penalty. I shouldn’t get going about hockey. I won’t sleep.
My old boxing manager used to say, “Don’t ever play football or rugby because you’ll end up crippled or walk funny. With boxing you only end up talking funny, but at least you’ll have two good legs.”
@ M Devolin:
So why are the best NHL players European? I remember when they didn’t wear those funny looking bicycle helmets and Goalies would never think about a mask. Of course none had their own original teeth by the time they retired. For the love of the game. I have had most of my fingers and toes dislocated or broken from football wrestling and Lacrosse.
I threw a 12 pound shot just missed making the American Maccabbia games. Didn’t train all that much I was just big and strong for my age. High School.
“I am always amazed how many weird people are out there.”
Back here we say, “Assholes are born in tens.”
@ yamit82:
I am always amazed how many weird people are out there.
Next time if there is one hit him with Mormons and 7 day Adventists….. G-d created them so they would know how Jews feel.
We’re only bloodthirsty on the ice, honeybee. Actually, the Euros say the American hockey players are just as brutal as us (but both Canadians and Americans know we have the best hockey players in the world and that our hockey style is the original, not the crying/whining, referee-dominated shit hockey they play in Europe). They refer to Canadian and American hockey players as “goons” not knowing that in North American hockey this term is considered a compliment.
@ M Devolin:
I try to taylor my jokes to the intended audience.
I love Steve Wright
Thanks, Yamit. I will lighten up. And that joke still has me laughing!! LOL That is a VERY good joke. LOL
@ honeybee:
The Rose Colored Variety and you?????
@ bernard ross:
Thank you for such a lovely song. I love singers who have good diction. Makes for great listening. Beautiful music.
the phoenix Said:
Blood thirsty Canadian
honeybee Said:
Maybe I’ll just keep it as well as the nails for when the american shows up…
It would be a shame to waste such good material…
… And from the way I am coming to see for myself the Israeli bureaucracy in action ….this blessed permit that he is still waiting… it might be a while…
😉
yamit82 Said:
Yawl sure bot that, Dalin ??????????????
@ Ted Belman:
“If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the library?”
yamit82 Said:
Do you wear glasses>>>>
yamit82 Said:
You mean you’ll “straw Boss”.
yamit82 Said:
I think TX needs glasses. MM was zoftig lady.
Ted Belman Said:
Well said
the phoenix Said:
No, save it for HaLevi’s BBQ.
Bear Klein Said:
You called ???????????
@ D. Bene: A guest comes into a home and says, “you guys are all bad and evil people. I know the truth and you are sinners. Put that in reverse if a Jew walked into a Christian home and said that how would it go down.
So you are really full of it and quite arrogant and are lacking basic manners. Since you believe you know the truth, I suggest basic manners and common sense would say keep it to yourself.
@ yamit82:
So…should I return the lumber, then?
😀
D. Bene
Truth is truth. Anybody who tells it is welcome here. But don’t try to pass off mythology as truth and don’t advocate for your theology.
This re-joins a comment I made many months ago, perhaps on an other blog: “The creation of the UNRWA had an has only one goal: the destruction of Israel”. This ignominy was created and supported by ANTISEMITIC forces from the West. The good old West.
The good old antisemites who collaborated with the NAZI. And they still insist and are losing. Now they have Pr. O as an addition.
@ M Devolin:
Lighten up buddy he won’t be around for long they never are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNzQEQjfYog&feature=player_embedded
“Ted, I wonder if I will continue to be a welcome commenter here at Israpundit if I tell the truth as I know it.”
I just can’t believe the nerve of this guy. Incredible. What an unctuous ass. And then he wonders if he will “continue to be a welcome commenter here”! He doesn’t realize that he never was welcomed here. He comes here insouciantly inculpating Jews for the atrocious sins of his religion and, regardless, he assumes he is a “welcome commenter.” I’m shaking my head. His bizarre statement about telling the truth “as I know it” reminded me of a quote I read recently, by Josh Billings: “As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.” He definitely has more balls than bearing.
honeybee Said:
Send photo and let me decide>>>
honeybee Said:
No!!! You misunderstand I always help even With the stuff I don’t like to do. Some thing I’m just not good at but I wold always try to do my best to take as much of a load off your shoulders, that said you may prefer doing some of it yourself for your own reasons and I’m cool with that….!! 🙂
Told you I want to spoil you. If you don’t want to be spoiled then I’m cool with that too.
honeybee Said:
Do others think that too or just Tx? What do you think? Are we speaking now of just your face hair and eyes or those and all the rest of her?
yamit82 Said:
O, I see, I’ll do the boring difficult housework for which I will receive a message [if you able to preform]
yamit82 Said:
TX says I resemble Marilyn Monroe sans the urine yellow hair and gobs of makeup and false eyelashes.
@ honeybee:
Let’s see… Heavy housework like windows and storms, painting light repairs plumbing and electrical but not carpentry or masonry stuff, gardening, cooking what I know.
Washing dishes instead of dishwasher, laundry but hate and am a lousy folder. I can dust but really hate it. Don’t mind polishing furniture, I clean carpets quite expertly learned the knack from a previous real job. I love to do the weekly shopping. Anything to do with motor vehicles.
Those are just household chores but I am better qualified in person to person personal care like message and what comes naturally afterwards.
I’m sure there is more but am a little under the weather.
Happy Halloween. Do you have a costume??? Like Daisy Mae???
@ yamit82:
You’re hired !!!!!! Any other tasks you can take on !!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ honeybee:
Better yet I’d do both myself given such an opportunity. I am an expert at both first because I enjoy it and second out of necessity. Not necessarily in that order. 😉
yamit82 Said:
yamit82 Said:
when’s that?
until then he must wail the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9SFtiTWawc
@ bernard ross:
I said a miracle not the impossible!!!!
But in any event I’ll give the old college try next time, when I return!!!!! 😛
yamit82 Said:
Heal you know who of OCD
@ bernard ross:
Tell you what I am the messiah and I will perform right now any miracle you want just name and I will miraculously perform it right before your eyes here from Israpundit..
Go ahead and name the miracle you want me to perform live in front of the whole world and on Cable TV. Go ahead!!!!!
D. Bene Said:
there is no Jesus in our bible
Ques: what ideology perpetrated the Holocaust?
ans: Nazism
Ques: What Ideology perpetrated 2000 years of libel, swindling, torturing, pogroms and Genocide on the Jews.
Ans: Christianity
HMMMMMMMM?
@ D. Bene:
You are a classic example of why the Jews became so hated by believers in the yeshu-god of love-your-neighbor-as-yourself. It’s not because the Jews killed yeshu as the Gospels – mainly that of John – say. It’s because the theology of evangelical/fundamentalist christianity holds that Jews know perfectly well that yeshu was the Messiah but they deny him anyway. And how else can this be seen but as a deliberate act of choosing evil? Who else could do such a thing but Satan and his servants? Consequently, only in a christian country can Holocaust Revisionism [the idea that the Nazis never tried to exterminate the Jews] be taken seriously. Because onlychristians could believe that Jews are so wholly evil and so supernaturally-empowered by evil forces that they could successfully perpetrate the monumental conspiracy that would be necessary to get people to believe such a thing if it weren’t true. And even of those people who accept the reality of the Nazi genocide of the Jews, only a christian could believe that innocent and harmless Jews were dispatched to hell while the Nazis who killed them were forgiven by G-d and admitted to heaven.
If you want to know what someone really thinks of you, look at what they’re willing to believe about you. Jews have survived because G-d has seen to their survival. That’s how we know the Torah is true.
Jews don’t worry about who the Messiah is because, for Jews, the Messiah is just the political ruler in the line of David who will appear when it’s time. The Messiah doesn’t have anything to do with Jews’ relationship to their G-d. Jews don’t believe they need an intermediary between themselves and their G-d.
D. Bene Said:
And yet those who “accepted” him have been guilty of the most ungodly,despicable,slaughters and libels for 2000 years, hijacking for themselves the role of the “chosen people” as replacements for the Jews as if Hashem had made an error…..and yet
The land which lay barren for 2000 years in the hands of the idolaters now blossoms in the hands of the ingatheirng Jews…
and surprisingly NOT for the self appointed replacement supersessionist Christians….
If they replaced the Jews then why are THEY not being gathered in and blessed with the blooming land????????
This is why the supersessionists have assembled ALL their resources in BDS churches, in European secular governments…..
to guarantee the failure of the Jews in israel so that their bankrupt ideology which brought only slaughter to the world can continue to reign.
How do they do this? They libel the Jews and Israel, they incite Ishmael the arabs to kill the Jews and they fund their Jew killing muslim proxies.
and what is the result of their evil machinations:
The funded jew killing proxies are chopping off the heads of christians in the mideast and rsing up against the secular christians of europe to plunge it into civil strife and slaughter while Vlad knocks at their gates drooling. The Jew killers are slaughtering each other in a whirlwind around Israel in the eye of the hurricane of chaos and who grows from strength to strength.
D. Bene Said:
your messiah came 2000 years ago….and what did he bring….
the barren land did not then bloom for you as it now blooms for us…
Your frantic need of 2000 years to convert the Jews is based in your deep knowledge that you have made a big mistake…. in supporting those who have been engaging in despicable behaviors while claiming G_D as their support.
By their fruits ye shall know them…..
and we have seen your fruits and compared them to your words……
therefore you should prepare yourself for the punishment of claiming that G_D made you do it. I pray for you.
Ted, I wonder if I will continue to be a welcome commenter here at Israpundit if I tell the truth as I know it. This…
If there were no God in the middle of Israel’s affairs then Dr. Martin Sherman and Mr. Arnold Harris should continue their debate as to how to best produce a “permanent long term solution” for Palistinians & Jews. But your scriptures long ago gave the “only solution” to Israel’s national difficulties with their neighbors/enemies.
You/Israelites are God’s favored people. In your ancient and more recent history when you were in disobedience to His Laws He always insisted that you, as a nation, humble yourselves before Him and repent & forsake your sins so the way would be open for Him to hear and heal your difficulties.
He always said something like this, which is in/around IIChronicles7:14.
“IF My people who are called by My name will humble themselves,
…and IF they will pray,
…and IF they will seek My face,
…and IF they will turn from their wicked ways,…
Then, only then would I hear from Heaven, forgive their sins, and heal their everything.”
IIChronicles 7:14 TPB (The Practical Bible)
For, historically when Israel has ignored God’s orders from headquarters or refused Him in some way He would always offer and cajole again and again until, refused, He had to take more drastic measures. He blinded His stubborn people to the truth and allowed them to go their own ways until, in their pains from stubborn sins, they would finally get to this: “Humble themselves…pray,… seek My face, …and…turn from their wicked ways,…”
What is THE present difficulty? THIS: Their promised Messiah has come and their hard hearts have rejected Him,… so they have been, in their sins, blinded to this for many centuries -and under an awful judgment from God. A judgment given so as to try to turn them, in humility, to accepting their Messiah.
What if that is true? !
Israel, Israelites, can you not humble yourselves just this little bit:
Humbly/sincerely ask your God:
“May I always see the light of God. Is this the light, God, that You desire so much for us to see? That our Messiah is already come? Bless my openness with Your clear and understandable answer.”
I pray now for God’s Spirit to open all Israel’s eyes/hearts/minds/spirits to the truth so they will: “…pray,… seek My face, …and…turn from their wicked ways,…”. For their Messiah has come and they have rejected Him. Please, God, move them to humility and delight Yourself to open the humble among them to Your truth.
–Too, I pray for forgiveness for the grafted-in Gentiles, Messiah-followers, the Jesus-followers who have not loved such (as they have been clearly commanded!) so that they would pray for and exhort the Israelites to accept their Messiah who awaits them…Messiah, Yeshua, is just microseconds away from each of them, every hour of every day. Thank You, Almighty God.
I have done this. There are some valuable details which have added to my knowledge especially the impossibility of allowing Pal control over any of the west bank. His visuals from the the hilltops make this clearer than words. Another thing which I already knew but which strengthened and hardened my heart was the reiterated history of the faux self-appointed Philistines and the inescapable conclusion that they SHOULD NOT be lived with.
I cannot at all agree with this even though I agree with some of his conclusions reached. The gist of his conclusions are that the Pals should leave. I agree with this conclusion but not his focus nor his reasons. In my view the pals in themselves culturally represent an existential threat to Jews and can not be live with nor given any freedom which may result in endangering Jews. Sherman suggests that the pals should be presented as pit bulls rather than poodles but does not follow through nor internalize that analogy when he suggests giving them freedom to choose. It is more important that Israelis choose whether they want to live with these perpetual destroyers. The choice should be Israels that they should go and that no citizenship is open to them.
His whole narrative wrt the UNRWA and the internationals does not guide his later decisions. His later decision to focus on the humanitarian as a method of wooing the internationals ignores the incredibly transparent behavior which demonstrates that the internationals have not been interested in a solution that solves the refugee crisis and therefor it is absurd for the Jews to be concerned with that goal. The internationals have also been willing to consistently embrace the lies about Israel which they must know to be false and to spread those lies which endangers Jews worldwide. Therefore, the internationals cannot be trusted just as the arabs cannot be trusted.
The one goal of Israel should be to find ways to get the arabs out of Israel and this should be based on efficacy and not humanitarianism. If humanitarianism was important to the internationals they easily could have solved this by pressuring Jordan to allow the arabs west of the river to settle and be citizens of 80% of the territory of their origin. Jordan sits on 80% of palestine, is JEW FREE and yet the palestinian arabs cannot freely live there…this is absurd. Therefore, the international and arab position must be realistically viewed as disingenuous which calls for disingenuous approaches to the problem in dealing with swindlers and liars.
Israel should consider the scenario of deposing the hashemites and opening Jordan to palestians from the west bank first and then to others. this is a realistic solution whose only obstacle is the hashemite monarchy. They could do this themselves by opening their gates to the pals to whom the land of Jordan actually belongs. this is the most sensible, legal and moral solution: that the pals live in their JEW FREE 80% of “Palestine”. there is no reason other than abdullah that the pals in camps continue to be without a nation or that those in Israel should be squeezed in twith the Jews while a 2 bit foreign british installed potentate sits on massive land that belongs to them. His dynasty has outlived its usefulness and is now a burden on all.
Objectively people leave their residence when it becomes untenable or dangerous to live there. Therefore the arab areas should not be improved and any economic attack on israel should reverberate to them.
It is fact that 50% of gazans want to emigrate and pay up to 10k to be taken by boat to europe. This is a grand opportunity for Israel to clandestinely help drain the swamp. Covert aid, subsidy and even the operating of smuggling outfits should be increased. Perhaps subsidies to the boat smugglers could help carry more people. Perhaps Israel creating more smuggling cells could carry more people. The same with the west bank, set up rings smuggling them to Jordan. Israel should use the mossad to create incentives and smuggling rings to arabs leaving. This would be more successful than trying to do it on the surface.
Once arabs are out of israel the internationals will solve their problems, it is only their remaining that perpetuates the internationals reluctance. Who cares where they go, I dont.
the mistake is to focus on a solution for pal refugees which is acceptable to them rather than to focus on the long term strategy of getting them out using any methods that work. Seeking agreement is the worst approach. That is the real obstruction to solution.
Focus and concentrate on getting them out and all else will be solved. Any rock throwers should be immediately deported or at least sent to gaza where the can get a boat. The fatah and hamas should be deported as undesirables. Gear solutions to the needs of Israel and ignore the pals, let their supporters solve their problems.
The best and obvious solution is Jordan, voluntarily or by force. Perhaps IS can provide the cover for their destabilization and fall.
@ ArnoldHarris:Read This for starters.
Into the Fray: Let their people go!
He calls it The Humanitarian Solution. Google it with his name.
His lecture has two parts. 1. Why we can’t for a moment consider withdrawing from J&S and 2. why we must get them to leave by offering them money.
I’ll see what else he can give me.
Ted,
Where can I obtain or download a copy of Dr Sherman’s lecture? At 80 years of age, one of my few apparent physical defects is reduced hearing ability. So everything I know comes from what I read, never from television or from videotapes of speeches or lectures. Fortunately, that was also the way I was raised. We didn’t even have a television set in my parents’ home until I was beyond 17 years of age, and what was available was either boring or idiotic. In any case, now I don’t even watch old movies that do not include readable subscripts for the hearing impaired.
I tried looking him up at his Israeli Institute of Strategic Studies, but most of what I found there is little more than internet-age schnoring for financial donations, and nothing at all about the lecture that you posted here on Israpundit.
So what does Dr Sherman have available that I can read, and not uselessly try listening to?
I really am interested in what he and you think is the only sensible policy for Israel in dealing with the local Arabs.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI