T. Belman. As you know I have been a fan of Col Macgregor’s analysis of the Ukraine War. I stopped listening to him when he was not supportive of Israel. Nevertheless, I listened to this video. Macgregor’s thesis is that Israel is doing itself more harm than good in procecuting this war and it will turn out very bad for Israel and for the US. So he is looking out for Israel. I pray he is not correct.
This is not a war of choice for Israel as Macgregor suggests. It is a war of necessity. Israel believes it has no choice but to continue til victory. It also believes that such victory will not be a pyrrhic victory as Macgregor is suggesting.
Macgregor is fear-mongering. Neither Jordan nor Egypt will go to war against Israel. They have both been there, done that with a destructive outcome for them. Even Hezbollah is holding back and sticking to a low level war rather than a full blown war. Israel has made itself very clear. If Hezbollah doen’t retreat and stop the low level war, it will be destroyed. As for Jordan, King Abdullah will soon lose his crown. I am disappointed in the Judge for including an antisemitic clip from Max Blumenthal.
@Michael Again with the bible babble. The Torah says drive them out or kill them over and over. The New Testament says turn the other cheek and blindly do whatever the government tells you to though Jesus is also reported as saying he is not a prince of peace he comes bringing a sword and he divides parents against children. Christians have been responsible for much of the genocide of the 2,000 years, especially against the Jews.
““Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household” (Matthew 10:34-36).”
Cherry-picking Fundamentalist Political bible thumpers like you are such hypocrites.
Here’s Martin Luther who paved the way for the Holocaust:
“”What shall we Christians do with this rejected and condemned people, the Jews”:[1]
“First, to set fire to their synagogues or schools … This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians …”
“Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed.”
“Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them.”
“Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb …”
“Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside …”
“Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them …”
“Seventh, I recommend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow … But if we are afraid that they might harm us or our wives, children, servants, cattle, etc., … then let us emulate the common sense of other nations such as France, Spain, Bohemia, etc., … then eject them forever from the country …”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_and_antisemitism
And since all antisemites are sub-human scum, if I’m a sub-human, what does that make you? Basement level 2? 😀
@ketzel2
I am not surprised to be honest, as few do. You would think Ukraine’s Nazi problem would be far better understood by now given that Ukraine has been the number one story for two years straight, but the fourth estate, ie the press, have been completely co-opted by Western govts which are all in the tank on behalf of Ukraine despite and perhaps because of its Nazi problem.
The Nazi dilemma in Ukraine is directly related to a threat from Ukraine, but the truth is that Ukraine has never posed a real threat to Russia and Russia is aware of this. The real threat to Russia is that the Nazi threat in Ukraine has the backing of the Western world, and that does pose a real threat to Russia, and Russia knows this too. You say Russia isn’t the good guy. I would say that the US is the bad guy, and that Russia was reacting to a certain growing threat on its border after attempting to negotiate a deal with the Ukrainians for 8yrs without success. With the return of the Obama team backing Ukraine in 2021, war was all but certain, even as the Russians continued to try to negotiate a deal with the West for another year. I don’t know what you think Russia should have done, and I am plenty certain what the US would have done in her place. This being said, the Russian invasion of 2022 ended all divisions in Ukraine and led to a solid front being raised against Russia. Even the Dombas was none too pleased with Russia as Russia came to their aid but refused to offer the Dombas the protection of becoming part of the Russian Federation, that is until six months after the Ukrainians refused to accept a deal in which Russia would agree to withdraw to pre-2020 invasion boundaries in exchange for a Ukrainian commitment not to pursue NATO membership.
Yet, does the Russian elite military formation have a Nazi ideological basis? It isn’t just that there are Nazi’s in Ukraine’s military, it is that Azov was held to be the pinnacle of Ukraine’s military. They were given preferential treatment for funding, arming and training. I don’t think you will find such a thing anywhere else in the world, including Russia. Also, I would argue that if someone threatened Putin as Yaroash threatened Zel, they would not be treated as a man of importance, left to walk freely about with his own trained army at his disposal. Indeed, Ukraine’s Nazi problem is far greater than the Nazi iconography.
Who knows, you might be right about Russia having a more antisemitic general public than Ukraine. I wouldn’t know how to assess such a thing to be honest. I have read antisemitic rants on both Russian and Ukrainian sites, particularly on Telegram channels. I will however offer you a bit of a warning for the future. Parts of Ukraine’s Jewish community allied itself with the Nazi’s in Ukraine, most notably was Kolomoysky who is said to have taken part in funding both the Azov Battalion and the 100 days protest at Maidan. With the loss of Kolomoyski’s backing and the loss of the war which seems imminent under the well recognized face of the war, Zel, who do you think the Galicians will come to reap their revenge upon when they are left with a Rump state, no economy, and no more grifts from the West. You have suggested that Ukraine is not marked by antisemitism despite their worshiping participants of the Holocaust. I strongly disagree with your perspective here. I would argue that the Jews are protected due to the wealth which was made available to the Nazi’s and their objectives and when the tide turns, well, it was never a good idea to be a Jew on the losing side, and I would wager a strong bet that Ukraine will come to prove this ancient reality is still as true today as ever. But time will tell.
The reason for Russia taking Crimea was that they had a strategically important naval base there, and that both Ukraine and their US masters had carried out a coup on the legitimately recognized govt of Ukraine, thereby directly violating two of the six clauses of the Budapest Memorandum, thereby voiding it. To be certain, the Crimeans were not too upset with Russia having done so as there was not a single life lost in Russia’s occupation of Crimea, and many of the Ukrainian naval fleet actually joined Russia’s Navy. Russia drew the line at Crimea in 2014, and it earned Putin the enmity of the Dombas for doing so. Notably, the Dombas was not a strategic interest for Russia which is why Russia did not come to their aid as well, despite the efforts of many in Dombas pleading that they should on humanitarian grounds.
@Peloni
This is interesting, I didn’t know all these details. However, it doesn’t make Russia the good guy.
Also, the details in your post show what I’ve been saying all along, the people are not particularly antisemitic anymore, and you said the nazis are in the government but the people voted for peace, twice. Should they be slandered because they have a rogue government like almost every other country?
The Russian people and government may not identify publicly as Nazis, but I’ve seen videos of Russian fighters with Nazi like insignia. They look as fashy as Asov. Also, here is a repost of a link posted by Reader, about tunnels in New York dug by Chabad. The comments under the article are the usual from RT, which is a government publication. The Ukrainian youtube and twitter accounts I follow do not have mostly vicious antisemitic comments.
https://www.rt.com/news/590348-synagogue-tunnels-new-york/
Also, when Russia invaded Crimea, they didn’t say anything about Nazis, they justified it because boo hoo, Khruschev shouldn’t have given away our port, we need it. Russians always have reasons why they need other people’s stuff. If they needed a port, maybe they could have paid Ukraine a fee to use it like normal people?
@Adam
@ketzel2
Zel came to win a greater victory than he ever imagined with control of both the Parliament and the presidency. As with Poroshenko, Zel had a window in which he pursued his peace president posturing after the election, but as with Pororshenko, his ability to do so was short lived. Still, the work of peace under Zel held a greater promise and had a longer longevity than Poroshenko who declared war within a few weeks of his election victory as the peace candidate. Do recall that Zel’s massive and historic parliamentary victory took place in July, just 3 months after his own victory.
With the enormous election victory in hand, the Trump White House pressed Zel to advance the peace initiatives described in Minsk and for a time, Zel appeared to be committed to doing so. He personally went to the front line to insist that the unauthorized veterans there stack their arms and withdraw, and for his efforts, Zel was threatened from the army, from his parliament and from the notorious Dimitri Yaroash who led his own private mercenary force in the war. Following this event, Zel met up with the Nazi’s who opposed his moves, including Andriye Biletsky who founded Azov and the Azov movement. Following this meeting, Zel personally made no further moves towards peace.
Yet there was another peace initiative still being pursued under Zel’s govt. Shortly after becoming president, Zel appointed Sergei Sivokho to be an advisor to the powerful NSDC. Siyokho had been a producer of Zel’s comedy show and the two had discussed ways by which they might change the atmosphere in Ukraine more condusive to bringing the Dombas back into Ukraine. Sivokho had developed a proposal which was intended to address the underlying issue in the Ukrainian war which was related to the animosities between the Galicean and Malorussian camps. He premised that if the nation could recognize the harms that had been waged against the ethnic Russians, the ethnic Russians would be more likely to return to their national home in Ukraine. He hoped to lessen the hatreds which were held within the two groups into something more unifying by building mutual understandings, dialogues and traditions, but most specifically he hoped to address the dehumanization of the ethnic Russians which had been ongoing in Russia since well before the 2014 coup.
Zel supported Sivokho’s plan as late as the beginning of 2020. That all changed, however, in March of that year. Sivokho announced the creation of the National Platform for Reconciliation and Unity in Mariupol on March 12, but during the event, Sivokho was attacked by members of National Corps (Azov veterans) who were shouting traitor and knocked Sivokho to the floor. Curiously, there were no resulting arrests and no actions taken against those who disrupted the presentation by Sivokho, who it should be recalled was an advisor to the NSDC. The only penalizing result of Sivokho being attacked by the Nazi was that two weeks after being attacked, Sivokho himself was fired from his advisory role to the NSDC and no more was heard of his plan of Reconciliation and Unity. With Zel’s termination of the Reconciliation and Unity plan, all efforts by Zel to pursue peace, short of Russia completely surrendering to Ukrainian demands, was ended.
This is how peace failed to come to Ukraine, even after Ukraine (with a sizeably reduced ethnic Russian electorate) voted in favor of two successive presidents based upon their boasts of peace. The Nazi’s in Ukraine are well armed, well trained, and well funded. Until their influence (read as political violence) over the govt is ended, there can be no peace in Ukraine.
MacGregor is an ignoramus and blowhard
Sir Jeremy… is quite right. Israelis and their government have not stopped the BIG lie of a “Palestinian ” people so we are trapped by this failure. Journalists make up a powerful voice by daily choruses hammering into the ears of the world this made-up ‘Peoplehood’. Where is the State where such a people live? Not anywhere today.
Jews lived in Palestine before it became Israel! Recognition does not make it a legal entity using a false historical narrative. Gazans are not a people either (nor human beings, for that matter.) The Israeli generals who have perpetuated calling the Arabs in Israel “Palestinians” and continue to act to turn the other cheek at Arab illegal building in Shomron and Yehuda need to be checked and punished for dereliction of duty, including Major Gen. Fox who sits like a king not overseeing such massive Arab occupation of Jewish land, but underseeing what has now become of Area C. And why has the Israeli government been so passive in response all these years? Maybe it is because funds from the EU have been generously given to the PA and other terrorist entities and our government is afraid to challenge this violation of our sovereignty.
@ketzel2
I would argue that you are both right and wrong in making this assumption, meaning that Zel was held under a powerful influence of both the US and his domestic Nazi’s, albeit in different ways and at different times. I will have to explain this somewhat cryptic comment later though, but I do at least in part agree with your speculations.
@Peloni
I suspect the mystery of why Zelensky promised peace and delivered war can be traced back to the usual suspects in the American government. I see Z. as a front man for some American op. (This, of course, doesn’t make the Russian cause right.)
@Adam
I congratulate you on your comment about Zel and his efforts to retake control over Ukraine after becoming president. It is important to recognize the fact that under Poroshenko, and during the interim period between the coup and Poroshenko’s election (as the peace candidate mind you), the Nazis held significant positions of power in Ukraine, the most notorious of which was Pariuby who helped found the Nazi Svoboda party, and who became the head of the body responsible for Ukraine’s national security during the interim period and later became the head of the Ukrainian parlaiment til about six months after Zel became president in 2019. Notably, Pariuby was not fired from his position by Zel, but others were.
As Poroshenko was elected as the peace candidate of 2014, Zel was elected as such in 2019. He had a huge mandate to pursue peace, to enact the Minsk accords and to avoid war. So the question begs to be aswered as to why Zel failed to establish peace, dropped all efforts to enact the Minsk accords and brought Ukraine to war with Russia instead.
The answer is still the Nazi’s. Though I will have to leave you with just this teaser til later…
I agree with Ted’s comments exactly, on MacGregor, on the Gaza war, and on Egypt and Jordan. I am still dubious about the Jordan Option, however. NO solution can be dependent on one man, whether it be Mudhar Zahran or even Donald Trump.
I heartily support Ketzel2”s proposal that an edit button be added to the comment secrion. Obviously, I need it. Not too long ago there was such an edit button for comments on Israpundit. Ted, could you bring it back?
One very important reason so many conservatives support Russia is the Russian propaganda that Russians are God-fearing social conservatives and don’t have the social pathologies that are allowed in the West.
Let me help you with that. I traveled in Eastern Europe for 3 years and met many Russians. No doubt there are many virtuous, socially conservative Russians. But the culture as a whole is as degenerate as ours. They have abortion, alcoholism, drug abuse, human trafficking, and even homosexuality. The only difference is that Russian videos show Russians beating up gay men. Does this mean they are more socially conservative than we are? Maybe Russians are a more physically uninhibited people and express themselves this way.
Every time Monkey Werx, a Christian Zionist prepper, discusses Ukraine, he posts a clip of Zelensky dancing in a gay, socially liberal manner. And this is actually a mature political analysis, yes it is, it is very important to watch Zelensky’s dance videos, because they are the Rosetta Stone of socially conservative support for Russia. Well guess what, that stuff exists in Russia too, they are more discreet because if they aren’t, they’ll get beaten up.
Yet another correction is needed” He replaced them (Neo-Nazi or new-fascist officials he replaced tem with dindividuals who had no neo-Nazi or neo-fascist backgrounds.
Clarifications and corrections of my previous post. of my previous post:
Nazis and neo-Nazis have not held any senior positions of authority in Ukraine since Zelensky became president. They did hold some important positions of authroity under Ukraine’s previous president, Petro Poroshenko. But Zelensky dismissed all of these individuals He placed with individals who had no Nazi or fascist backgrounds.
On the other hand, several indiviuals who do have senior positions in the breakaway areas of Eastern Ukraine do have neo-Nazi backgrounds. At least according to Denys Davidoff and another site that specializes in exposing Neo-Nazi and neo-fascistfascist groups throughout Europe ( I think its name is “Bellingcat” or something similar.). The radio stations in Russian-occupied Eastern Ukraine broadcast openly antisemitic messages , according to these two sites. For example, they harp on Zelensky’s Jewish origins as a reason to overthrow him.The Ukrainian radio and televsion
@Michael S. No one has to agree with me for me to respect them and listen to them attentively, but Macgregor, here and in every other video I’ve seen of his, exhibits blatant bad faith. He even quotes Haaretz as a source. And the rest is obviously as bad. Being a colonel doesn’t mean he’s a serious person, especially in the USA.
@Adam D I totally agree, some people on this site have been misled by the Uke Nazi propaganda. If I hadn’t been to Kiev and seen the thriving Jewish community myself, I might also have been misled.
Russian propaganda has moved the goalposts. Every time I have referred to Jewish life in Kiev, someone here or elsewhere has disproved it with, but Nazism wasn’t just about Jews! And Bandera, there are still Banderites there, they just put up a new statue!
Fine, I’m not denying that, but that’s not the whole of Ukrainian culture today, any more than the tiki torch marches represent American culture.
I used to be neutral on the Ukraine war, but every single day since it started, it has become more and more clear, by Russia’s behavior and rhetoric, that Russia is the bad guy and Ukraine is the good guy.
Do I like the fact that Zelensky has lots of valuable real estate in Florida, and do I wonder if he got it in the same way as the Biden family? No, I’m not a fan of Zelensky. However, politics shouldn’t be a popularity contest.
Denazification of Ukraine is a smoke screen put out by Russia, and well meaning people here and elsewhere in the West are fooled. Russia doesn’t get to change the meaning of Nazi in order to accommodate the relative lack of antisemitism I witnessed in modern Kiev. I saw people at a street fair totally shunning a presentation by the Azov boys. They were allowed to speak but no one went near them. Now they are all dead.
We should be more subtle and not buy into Putin’s party line, just because it saves us money. We are too broke to give Ukraine much support, but that’s probably due to the corruption of the American government. If our own house were in order, Russia wouldn’t dare do what it’s doing, and Western governments would enable it to save money and the trouble of noticing the Russia is doing what it’s always done.
But they are our natural allies, you say. Well, that ship has sailed. Deal with it.
Sebastien
Welcome to the Subhuman race!
Laura
I recommentd that you take Remedial Math. McGregor said nothing of the sort. He is not taking a moral stance, as you imply (“perverse”), just giving a pretty well thought-out opinion.
Madeline,
Close. Substitute RELIGIOUS for MORAL, and I think you have it. The UN Charter is full of “morality”. South Africa’s hauling Israel before the World Court for “genocide” is “morality” up the wazoo. What anyone but Bible-believers call “morality”, is simply what our forefathers called “immorality” — and these so-called “moral” people tend to miss the point about Israel: They are God’s Chosen People, end of story.
Ted,
Welcome to the club!
Bear,
Music to my ears! You’re making sense! “Behold, an Israelite in whom there is no guile!”
Ketzel,
…when he doesn’t agree with you, that is. These have been my sentiments as well — that is, when he doesn’t agree with ME! In the present video, however, I would judge him as perhaps 80% “non-smarmy-con-man”.
Ketzel again, and Adam. I just saw your latest comments.
I think I agree with you, that Israel and Ukraine are essentially on the “same side”, by default. Their interests line up with each other, and against Russia’s. That said, I don’t think my own country (the US) is in a position to help either very much. We and our allies are in dire need of re-mobilizing our defense industry, if we can ever get our moral and political houses in order.
Nazis occupy no positions in Ukraine. They did hold some important and sensitive positions under Zelensky. is his name Porushenko? Upon taking office, Zelensky immediately fired all individuals in positions of authority that had neo-Nazi backgrounds. There are no longer any such individuals holding senior positions in government. Putin’s Nazi lie is believed by nearly all the Russian soldiers in Ukraine, and by many people in the West, including I believe Ted and many Israpundit readers and end commentators. But a lie remains a lie, even when some intelligent and well-meaning people are fooled by it. A saying attributed to Abraham Lincoln is appropriate here: “you can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the the time. But you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.””
Edit, Russia benefits from anti Israel and anti Ukraine, because it’s coming from the same place. Very important to understand this, in the context of evaluating operatives like Macgregor.
Cliff Notes for people who are pro Israel but anti Ukraine. It’s not “but,” but “and.” What is the common denominator? Russia benefits from both. Ukrainian Nazis and denazification of Ukraine can be true and a psy op at the same time.
Macgregor is a smarmy con man. The clip starts off with his putting on a fake American hick accent and claiming that Americans don’t know anything so their opinions are worthless. Every point he makes is manipulative and not quite right. I gave up on the vid after 7 minutes or so. I’ve noticed this about him for quite a while. There’s a type of pundit that uses bad rhetoric and reversals to con people into thinking he must know something because he’s so shifty. Watch this space, he will reveal himself at some point to be a foreign agent. I could do a detailed analysis of this vid, but I don’t have to because I’m not a suck-up undergrad anymore, now I can just say, common sense, this guy is trying to sell me a time share, I’ll just leave the tequila shop.
@Peloni @ Laura I wholeheartedly agree.
Hamas just killed over 1400 Israelis. We are destroying it and its military capabilities. It was in the process of building cruise missiles. This would have created even a larger amount of casualties.
There is NO choice. Mowing the lawn no longer worked. One year ago the IDF General of the South had recommended we attack them and destroy their capabilities.
I agree with you that Israel needs to control Gaza and Israel should help facilitate the mass emigration of Gazans.
More immediately important than annexing Gaza is destroying the Hezi’s military capabilities, as this is a serious threat.
If I was in charge of the strategy it would be:
1. Finish Off the Hamas in Southern Gaza very soon.
2. Massively attack Hezbollah and destroy their military infrastructure and push them out of southern Lebanon.
3. Destroy Iranian missile sites, nuclear facilities, IRGC infrastructure and Iranian ports where they export oil and gas.
4. Work on facilitating the voluntary emigration of Gazans and Arab Villagers in Judea/Samaria. If enough Gazans leave then Annex it.
Sorry, you misunderstood me.
Prosecuting the war is costing us dealy as I set out in the first paragraph. Our losses would be worth it if we annex Gaza sans Gazans. But the War Cabinet has decided otherwise. For their outcome, it is not worth it.
Israel is mounting an effort now to force the government to change its mind and annex Gaza.
As Pollard put it, they are grabbing defeat out of the jaws of victory.
@Keelie. Yes, a defensive position is a weak one. It signals apologizing for one’s very existence. The “strong horse” wins public approval, everywhere and especially in the Middle East.
It’s a war of MORAL as well as existential necessity. I agree with Laura that the world already hates us, so why hold back. In fact, I’ve been arguing for a Deuteronomy & Joshua approach to decimating Gaza, instead of protecting the “civilians” who are actually combatants without uniforms. Stay strong, Israel!
Yes, I too agree with Peloni and Laura, et al.
In the “Eastern” way of thinking, eternally defending without instantly counter-attacking will surely spell defeat…
So, to sum up this McGregor’s perverse logic; Israel is wrong to fight a war in which it was provoked into by the massacre of 1200 of its citizens and the taking of 200 plus hostages. Yet he is supportive of Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.
I’m in full agreement with Peloni on this matter.
Of course, it’s a war of necessity. Israel can’t and shouldn’t have to live adjacent to hamas. No defensive measures can ever be 100% effective as you point out. hamas should never have been allowed to become as strong as it did. That’s what happens when you only play defense. Perhaps the senior command was arrogant and the attacks should have been prevented, but Oct.7 did happen, so the war Israel is fighting has become a necessity.
If anything, Israel isn’t going far enough. They should go after Iran. The west is SO squeamish about the use of any military confrontation and our enemies are observing this and that is why they have become so much more aggressive.
I’m surprised at this statement by Ted. What should Israel have done if not go to war to destroy hamas. Since when do you care about the world being angry at Israel? They are always angry at Israel. You’re going soft. The fact that the world is angry at Israel for a war hamas started after slaughtering thousands of Israelis, just further goes to prove how pervasive global antisemitism is. We now know that there is no atrocity against Israel so horrific that the world will rally to her side or “permit” any response. As far as the world is concerned Israel must just quietly take it, So, Israel must do what is necessary for it and never curry favor to a Jew-hating world.
I can honestly say a few key points both with regard to Col. Douglas McGregor and the State of Israel, if not Jews in general.
Firstly, there is NO SUCH THING AS A “PALESTINIAN” PEOPLE! All people, especially Jews must learn their history and openly confront this Communist invented antisemitic fraudulent Orwellian murderous mythology.
Because, Israel had not confronted and crushed this Western Civilization destroying cancerous lie, it has grown to into the massive cancerous tumor of our time. The sad fact remains that Jews themselves, like Israel itself, has propagated this self-destroying lie.
Because of Communist Jews, and others, Globalist Jews, and others, Israel has LOST the information campaign to intentionally planted, anti-Jew, anti-Christian, anti-Israel and anti-Judeo Christian West Communist/Socialist revolutionary – and Islamic Jihad – deception/propaganda.
Col. Douglas McGregor seems to know nothing about the history of the region and further, more importantly, Islam.
There is no “West Bank” unless Col. McGregor wishes to start calling Jordan: “The East Bank”.
The narrative being pumped out by the Recep Tayyip Erdo?an is 100% Sharia backed and is and will increase throughout the Islamic world with Communists like Max Blumenthal providing cannon on behalf of the Socialist anti-West cause.
It is my opinion, from many years of research, that soon the Bible will be put to the test. Looking around, I fear that it is all one made up story and Israel will disappear from the planet…..
After all, where was God when those young girls were being violently violated by these Muslim savages? You can bet your last dollar – or shekel – that they were praying with all their hearts to God and reciting the Shema….
Israel, like ALL Western nations, must come to grips with the base facts that Socialism/Communism, Islam and Globalism are enemies of any morally grounded civilization. Until they recognize these truths and, more importantly, DO SOMETHING about them, the world – WEST – will continue to decline and the “Dreyfuses” among their population will be the first to be blamed…..
In closing, I firmly believe that Israel, in July of 67, should have ANNEXED all the lands and DEPORTED all their Muslims – and Communists – to any of the over 50, once non, Islamic lands of their choosing. Or, at least, when they gave away the Sinai, they should have given ALL of the so-called “Palestinians” with it while ANNEXING Judea, Samaria and Gaza…..They didn’t.
Israel should have carpet bombed Gaza on October 8th – or 9th – killing ALL hominid life forms! Sent in the IDF D7-D10 bulldozers to push all of the rubble/garbage/carcasses into a 20′ high wall extending along the entire border with Egypt from the Mediterranean Sea to the crossing South of Eilat to be a warning to all Jihadist and Communist revolutionaries what will happen should they try to harm Israel. A warning to the Muslims just as Vlad Tepes (The Impaler) did with his “Forest of the Living” in the 1460s to keep Islam out of “Fortress Europe”….
Islam is a cancer. Socialism/Communism is a cancer and globalism is a cancer. Why? Because all are expansionist and totalitarian with no moral compass.
@Sebastien
The lives lost indicated in that statement was in regards to our own soldiers whose deaths are in fact a heavy price to bear in this war. Our enemies have brought the wrath of war upon themselves, and their fallen numbers are their own to bear and to lament. McGreggor tries to assail Israel with the act of dehumanizing the Pals so that their deaths might be ignored, but the reality is that it was actually the entire society, culture and upbringing in their death cult which has in fact dehumanized them, and the documented glee with which they perpetrated the slaughter and mayhem on October 7 as captured in their own GoPro videos has been the best evidence that this is so.
Total war should be made upon them, and not a single Israeli casualty more should be suffered to reduce the Pal losses. We did not bring this fight upon them, but we should make certain that we win it, and with as minimal a cost to ourselves as possible, as I have noted on many occasions.
@Peloni “In fact, every life lost is a tragedy which should weigh heavily upon each of us.”
The death of every one of the sadistic monsters who perpetrated the Simchat Torah Pogrom fills me with joy. I say, hand out the hamentaschen.
Spielberg’s film, “Munich,” was widely criticized for falsely portraying the Mossad avengers who assassinated the Munich terrorists who murdered the eleven Israeli athletes as regretful.
In fact, it’s in Genesis 9:6: “Whoever sheds human blood, by humans shall their blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made mankind.”
How’s that for “Jewish Values.” Can’t stand this “bless your enemies” crap. And that goes for the ten drops of wine at Pesach, for that matter.
The Romans had some good ideas. How ’bout make captured terrorists fight lions in the arena. 😀 Or gladiators. That would be too cruel to the lions.
My favorite lion from Deuteronomy 20 is the last one: “Are trees people that you would besiege them?” 😀
Or a game show like “Running Man” (1987) 😀
Their punishment could not only be cruel and unusual but creative and fun. 😀
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o16I9wjrruw
In 1973, Egypt and Turkey both had 37-38 million people. Now those numbers are 106 and 86 million, respectively. As MacGreggor noted, Turkey is now a major regional player (and, incidentally, more populous than any other European country in NATO).
I believe MacGreggor was right about Erdogan and Turkey: Though the leaders may not want war, the Turkish people could demand that they go to war with Israel. This could happen any time.
Egypt’s main concern, on the other hand, is feeding those 106 million. This requires, besides Ukrainian grain, water from Ethiopia via Sudan. With Russia pursuing a war in Ukraine that will NOT disappear, no matter how much we try to ignore it, and Russian mercenaries backing factions in Sudan, Chad and Libya, it’s foolish to think what’s happening in Israel can be separated from what’s happening in Ukraine.
Hostilities are raging in Sudan, Ukraine and, to a far lesser extent, Israel at the moment, and Turkey (which is preventing the wars from spilling over into one another through the Bosporus) could uncork the genie’s bottle. If they do, and a TRULY major war breaks out in Israel this year, I hope the Americans and Europeans will have begun to seriously ramp up their munition production.
I don’t think MacGreggor is engaging in hyperbole, this time around.
Is this war better than mowing the lawn? We have angered the whole world, suffered 167 soldier deaths, and still counting, in addition to 2000 disabled soldiers.
We have freed 110 hostages and another 113 remain in Gaza. 100,000 Israelis have been displaced from their homes in the North requiring us to destroy Hezbollah. And by the end of this year we will have to attack Iran to destroy their nuclear capability.
The Gaza War may have been worth it if in the result we annexed Gaza sans Palestinians. But no, we are staying there to maintain security but we are turning over Gaza to the international community who have never had our best interests at heart.
McGreggor seems quite woefully ill informed on this subject.
As it is true in Egypt, the people are ruled over by a totalitarian dictator in Jordan. Hence what the people want is quite irrelevant or both Sisi and Abdullah would have been long gone long ago. Their people live in a state of squalor and oppression despite massive foreign subsidies to help mitigate the incompetent govts ruling in each of these nations. Also, it is the army in both of these nations which maintain the control of the respective ruling autocrats and the interests of the people are not relevant to the policies of the nation. Indeed, the agitation and protest in these nations is tolerated by their oppressive regimes specifically because it supports the aims of the respective regimes to offset their public’s outrage against Israel rather than towards their domestic hardships, which are the direct result of their despotic rulers inept governance.
Also, McGreggor asserts that
While this is true, the casualty number which McGreggor is referencing includes the slaughtered 1200 inocents whose massacre initiated this war on October 7. In fact, every life lost is a tragedy which should weigh heavily upon each of us, but it should not be used to manipulate the reality that this war was brought against Israel by an Iranian regime with genocidal aims for the Israeli people, and Jews worldwide.
If victory is pursued as McGreggor fears, the outcome of this war will act to stabilize the region rather than bring disaster upon the region as McGreggor suggests.
Hence, McGreggor’s lack of competence to acknowledge that Iran’s attacks on Israel represent an existential threat to Israel demonstrate either a great deal of ignorance or a great deal of bias, and I do not in any way consider him to be an ignorant man.
I agree that McG is incisive about Ukraine and weird about Israel, but I don’t agree this is a war of necessity. All Israel had to do was watch the fence. How hard would it have been to shoot hang gliders out of the sky? Israel can live with Hamas being over there if we just watch the damn fence. So they will have tunnels and deprive their people. They’ll shoot some rockets and the IAF will respond. That approach was working, as long as we watched the fence and listened to the scouts (and armed them). But the arrogance of the senior command obstructed that.