T. Belman. I drew the same conclusion yesterday “What’s in it for the US or the EU for that matter? Russia is no threat to them. The only reason they are doubling down is because they want to destroy Russia which has been their goal since the fall of the USSR.”
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@Tanna
@schutzer
Something else to note which is alluded to by both of you but which bears being further considered.
Is it simple chance that the winner in all of this is China? That China Joe was Selected to the office of President? That the details of the US voting systems in many of the US states was stored in China where the corruption of the US voting system was illegally exposed to the real geopolitical enemies of the US. That the US Ukrainian puppet launched threat after threat at Russia just days after China Joe took control in the US? That all peace initiatives by Russia and Europe were ignored by the China Joe led US and her Ukrainian puppet? That Russia is bound hand over foot, tighter and tighter to China with every Western tranche of munitions sent to Ukraine? That the US military stockpiles around the world are being emptied before our eyes? A great many things have come together to empower and secure the Chinese against any possible rapprochement between the US and Russia. And it only cost the Chinese a $1.5 billion investment in Hunter Biden.
Croatian President Zoran Milanovic is now on the Ukraine kill list..
This is what happens when you disagree with a mobster – they put out a contract hit on you. Recall the recent revelations by the Ukrainian intelligence service head who noted that one of his own agents was executed by a rival Ukrainian intelligence service while accompanying the Ukrainian president during peace talks. The Ukrainian state is a mafia run organization and they settle things with the rule of violence, not the rule of law. Contrary views are not tolerated by such organized violence.
I believe the General is spot on in his take on the situation and background that brings us too today.
As Peloni and Ted stated “they want to destroy Russia”….. “and economic enslavement of the Russian people.” …… make it a slave to the western economic system.
schutzer said:
The purpose of the Ukrainian war against Russia is to prevent the natural alliance between the U.S. and Russia as well as to further deplete America’s military before China takes Taiwan.
Think on Schutzer comments. In a world, where nations freely picked their friends and associates that there would be a natural alliance between U.S and Russia. Why do the powers that be not want this to happen? I think it’s as simple as Russia will want to stand as an equal, eye to eye and the western power players have to have you on your knees as a servant not as an equal and Russia is not willing to live that way. i.e. Israel. But, that’s o.k. – when you need a person to just survive, you will put up with a lot of S–T. Me thinks that divorce is in the works!
Also, “to further deplete America’s military before China takes Taiwan.”
Think….. The great Afghanistan giveaway of so much military equipment. It looks to me like the USA military is being destroyed and weakened from within. Do you want a list of how much equipment we have sent to Ukraine? I have one and It’s long and sickening.
And general McGregor’s last comment.
The tanks that are to be sent have to be built. How long does it take to build a tank? It takes approximately 12-24 weeks to build a TANK depending on options(according to Mr. Goggle). Now, leave off the Armour as the General suggested you might get one every 10 weeks. At that rate Ukraine will not get 31 by end of the year. They loose them as fast as they get them.
I do not have military experience but in the last few days I questioned, does America not have 31 tanks they can send next week? General McGregor answers that question. “We are working on our apology to the world.” and we don’t want Russia to get the Armour.
This week some U.S, military person was supposed to have sent a letter/directive to 100,000 or so subordinates to prepare for war with China by 2025. Now does anyone think, this idiot just got loose lips? I don’t think so. As of this Moring he still has his job. So that tells me he was the chosen one to run it up the flag pole.
WHAT’S UP? looks like it going to get interesting.
https://nypost.com/2023/01/26/ukraine-will-wait-to-get-american-tanks-amid-russia-war/
@Michael
The first part of this statement is true, but the second part of this statement is not. The Russians are not targeting the Americans. They wanted to emulate the Americans. Their reward for this adoration of the West led to the economic slaughter of the ’90s, the NATO encroachment of the ’00s and the Ukraine debacle of the ’10s. In what way do you see the Russians ‘target[ing]’ the American people?
This is simply not true. The Ukraine war was a result of the US putting in place a US puppet govt comprised of neoNazis and Nationalists, all anti-Russians. The previous ruling party, the POR, which was both a pro-Russia party as well as the largest party in Ukraine, was evicted from the govt by the coup. The consequence of this US managed power swing from a govt by an elected majority to a govt by a selected minority was the butchery of the ethnic Russians which had never before been experienced in Ukraine.
Note that Russia wanted to establish an international peace agreement since violence began in Ukraine back in mid 2014, but the Minsk Accords were only agreed to following the US Ukrainian proxy being defeated. The Minsk Accords were never intended to be implemented [something which was always obvious but due to recent confessions by Merkle and others it is no longer in dispute], but were instead used to rescue the Ukrainian army, which had been completely surrounded and faced annihilation after the battle of Ilovaisk. It was a ruse by the West to rearm their proxy army, retrain it, and then redeploy it. This is what led to the Russian involvement in Ukraine.
There is no comparison to the US Civil War as neither the Dred Scot ruling nor the election of Lincoln were the result of some foreign coup empowering the abolitionists against the will of the American people as a whole. Of course, the enmity and dislike between the two sides in Ukraine was not a result of the American coup, but the empowerment of the minority Nazi/Nationalists was, and this led directly to both the Dombas War, which they lost, and the current Ukraine war with Russia, which they are about to also lose. In any event, the steps leading to the current war was in no way a series of ‘bumbling’ missteps, and it in no way resembles the outbreak of the US Civil War. It was managed from afar by the US, and it was intended to bring about war, a war which they intended to use crippling sanctions to bring about regime change in Russia, which was only undermined by the fact that Russia demonstrated a greater appreciation of capitalist values and strategy then did their American adversaries.
The purpose of the Ukrainian war against Russia is to prevent the natural alliance between the U.S. and Russia as well as to further deplete America’s military before China takes Taiwan.
This war began in a stumbling way, resembling the way the US broke into the Civil War in 1860. At the outset, both sides were confident of a quick victory. Then deadly reality sank in and continued for four years.
Peloni,
I imagine that by “America”, you mean a few elite actors like Soros, Schwab, Bill Gates, Obama, etc. It’s a real insult to the American people, to talk this way: You are identifying us with our very enemies.
The target of these actors is the American people, not the Russians. The target of the Russians is those same American people, as also is the target of Xi and the Iranians. If the American people are conquered by these scum, the whole world is up sh-t creek.
@Ted
This truly does say it all. America has no interest in Ukraine, none at all. Their sights are set upon the dismemberment of the Russian state and economic enslavement of the Russian people – an altogether evil prospect to contemplate.