T. Belman. Compare this plan with Trump’s Deal of the Century. They appear to be identical as for how Israel and Gaza will fare. No mention is made of Jordan because the King is not part of the deal. I am still fighting to have Gaza available for annexation once cleared of Palestinians. Thus Gaza would be more like area A.
President Trump’s peace plan includes Palestinian statehood for Gaza Strip – but not in Judea and Samaria, Al-Hayat report claims.
Palestinian Authority officials say a former Israeli Defense Minister revealed details of the soon-to-be released American peace plan for the Middle East, the London-based Al-Hayat newspaper reported Wednesday.
According to the report, shortly before he left office in November, former Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman (Yisrael Beytenu) told Palestinian Authority officials that the upcoming plan, dubbed the “Deal of the Century” by President Trump, would include the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state in the Gaza Strip.
Arabs living in Judea and Samaria would be citizens of the new Palestinian state, the PA officials said of the American plan, but no territory in Judea and Samaria would be ceded to the newly-formed Palestinian state.
Instead, the areas currently under PA control in Judea and Samaria would receive expanded autonomy and “broad economic incentives”.
The plan reportedly also includes provision for the establishment of a new airport and seaport in the Gaza Strip – to be paid for with international aid money.
There has been no official confirmation from the Trump administration, which has refused to disclose details from the upcoming peace plan.
A spokesperson for Liberman denied the report, saying that the Yisrael Beytenu chairman had not seen the American peace plan.
“Former Defense Minister and Yisrael Beytenu Chairman MK Avigdor Liberman hasn’t seen the plan, and to the best of his knowledge the Americans have not revealed details of the plan to anyone in Israel, and it isn’t even clear if the plan has been completed. So the [Al-Hayat] report is simply incorrect.”
On Monday, PA chairman Mahmoud Abbas denounced the American plan, calling it a “conspiracy”.
“This is a conspiracy: a conspiracy that they are going to be waging from afar,” Abbas said during a Fatah faction meeting Monday night.
“They say, ‘Wait for the deal’. What are we waiting for? Everything is on the table, and nothing is left hidden. What they offer is rejected, rejected, rejected. We will fight to prevent it, because we will not sell our sanctity.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae_yky14xtI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_boxers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jews_in_sports#Boxing
@ Edgar G.:
Hi, Edgar.
I doubt that Queensbury rules were even considered. This happened in the early 1930s, around 15 years before I was born. The family never elaborated much on it. Remember, those were moonshining days. My grandmother’s family ran a speakeasy and had a still. They were busted by the Feds and lost their land. There was lots of unemployment: My mother’s older brother was a “flagpole sitter” — a contest idled workers used to do, along with marathon dancing, etc. My great-grandfather hung himself after the ’29 stock market crash, because he could no longer support his family (He was 70 — my age now). People didn’t complain. They knew how to dish it out, and how to take it. Times were different then.
Half my mother’s family immigrated from Slovenia in the early 1900s, when it was part of Austria. My ggrandfather’s brother died in June, 1941, about three months after the Nazis took over. His nephew worked forced labor on the Eastern Front, escaped and was imprisoned by the Russians. Then he escaped from Siberia, and walked back to Slovenia. When he got there, he weighed around 5 stone 5 in your measure. A more distant cousin was executed by the Germans; then the father was sent to Auschwitz and killed.
My wife’s side were in the UK throughout the war — father in the US Army Air Force, and mother studying nursing. Her parents lived in London, and endured the firebombing. My father-in-law’s outfit drew straws, to see who would be sent to Normandy. He was lucky, so he got to live and marry my mother-in-law.
My father did the best in those days. He always had work, when many didn’t. During the war, he worked in war industry. The coiuntry pulled together then, not like today.
If people like Ketzel had their way, the US wouldn’t have any Germans, any Poles, any Slovenians or any Jews. I don’t know what makes him tick, and I don’t want to.
As the Scots would say, “Here’s a wee guid wille wought to ya’. Slangivar!”
Edgar G. Said:
NEVER HAPPEN!
Even under the most optimistic hopes for that plan, if there are say 10% of the Palis population continuing in their anti-Israel terrorist actions it will kill the plan and there is no reason to expect that there would not be continued terrorist acts against Israel from Palis Jordan… same holds true if there are only 5% or 3%.
@ Michael S:
I understand your own situation, and your family situation well, which is why I could see good reasons for your remarks, which in themselves were anything but vulgar. The word never even crossed my mind, but as for Ketzel, who seems a genuinely good person, and very well informed, I could visualise “mistaken Political Correctness”.and his strong views about China….But as far as Nixon was concerned, The Cold War was ongoing, and they were going to burst out fairly soon; and better to have them with us than against us. Their rapid rise was due to the greed of US moguls for cheap labour and massive profits and lack of foresight….. because Ketzel is not wrong. Just my opinion…
That was a sad tale about your young uncle who died aged 17… What happened to him was, I have NO doubt, an improperly or unsupervised fight, in which he was allowed to be battered far too much around the head, where the ref should have, long before, intervened.. That caused a massive hemorrhage, and in those days there was poor medical recognition for this constantly -even today-ever-present evil. There were two similar deaths a month or two ago and a couple of others are now just coming out of comas. One was the World Champion Light-heavyweight Adonis Stevenson champ for 5-6 years……but he was 40 years old and should have retired before that age.. But when you keep winning that’s hard to do.
I hate it as a blood sport with fans wildly howling to “kill” .(like a bullring. I was in Spain but would not go to see this gory spectacle of blood-lust and helpless animal torture).but loved it as a sport requiring skill, which I had. Although I scored some KOs, most of my fights were “stoppages”.. or points wins. Which suited me. And although I hated the Catholic people and their religion, that all vanished once the bout began, and it would end in mutual congratulations, as sportsmen should behave.
@ Bear Klein:
The crux and most important part of the “Jordan is Palestine” concept is the support of the US overall, and more locally of Israel. Without both, as I have detailed them repeatedly, the Plan will have no hope, and go on the path you describe. But….there s NO INTENTION of the originators of this Plan to attempt in carrying it out, without that full US and Israel support again, as I have repeatedly mentioned.
So…as Hillel famously sad…..”all else is commentary…”
We are merely exercising our talents for speculation improvisation, controversy, unforeseen effects, and “impromptu psycho-analysis” of the major players.
@ yamit82:
Thank you for this info. I have no idea how to use it BUT…I found that by typing in the Youtube slot “Star in The Ring”… It appears. So that’s what I’ll do rather than undergo a computer course……at my age….good heavens.. And I saw many other videos about Jewish boxers -a Sports Paradise for one like me.. So thank you again sincerely.
@ honeybee:
@ honeybee:
Easy peasy puddin and pie
Edgar G. Said:
@ Edgar G.:
No I am not irritated with you at all. I disagreed with specific points of discussion and felt it important to make those points strongly and clearly.
Since we discuss the Jordan Option it makes sense to analyze the dangers of this option and its realistic likelihood of its success.
When the PLO was fighting King Hussein in 74 or 75 I believe, the Syrians were going to jump in on the side of the PLO. Sharon then a big-shot General was going to allow the Syrian military from joining in the fight with the belief that then Jordan would become the Palestinian State which would benefit Israel. I then thought what would happen is this front would become more dangerous than it had been. Jordan did not fight in the 1973 War as was they were completely defeated by Israel in 1967 and driven out of Judea/Samaria.
Luckily this did not happen as Kissinger called Golda who told Sharon to block the Syrian troop movement. The Jordanians then drove the PLO into Lebanon. We eventually ended up signing a peace treaty with Jordan, Which is a mostly cold peace but far better than the past of war, periodic battles plus terrorism emanating from Jordan
Changing of the guard in Jordan could end up being very dangerous to Israel is the point. If the King falls we hope what Ted has forecast will occur and Jordan will become an ally of Israel and full partner.
It should not be insulting to anyone to examine the points of the Jordanian Option and possible consequences. Challenging assumptions such as the Jordanian Army will take USA dictates is not personal but part of the discussion.
@ Bear Klein: I agree, Bear.
This article didn’t represent all the details in Al Huyat.
YNET said “Palestinian self-rule would reportedly be limited to Area A of the West Bank, parts of Area B, and a small part of Area C“. It also said “Israel would also ….maintain control over a large part of East Jerusalem under the plan.”
The parts in bold were not mentioned in this article.
@ Edgar G.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o8wzpcSgFc
copy and paste put it in your bookmarks or email folder
run your mouse over URL and after it darkens right click with the mouse and click copy open up your email and paste the same URL to a folder or your browser bookmarks folder right click the mouse and paste
YAMIT- I need help. I’m a complete computer ignoramus. Only now how to type, send emails and look up subjects. Also can get Gutenberg and other libraries, as well as Youtube.
I’ve “sent” with both the hotmail and Gmail icons. They arrive but won’t open . Can you suggest a way for me to extract that video, or give me a link to get it myself.. Thank you.
@ yamit82:
It wasn’t deliberate, but after I wrote it down, it suited so well….I figured you’d appreciate it.
@ yamit82:
Thank you Yamit….this is a real prize. I must try to extract it from the page somehow and keep it to watch every so often.. Nat Fleischer…. I got his Ring Magazine for many years, and still have them -and other mags- packed away. Maybe a few hundred copies.of Ring alone, about 25 years worth.
Bert Sugar only became a real boxing “expert” (with his trademark eccentric old hat and cigar-like a Groucho painted moustache.) AFTER the genuine experts began to die off. I just glanced through the video, and have no doubt but that I knew of them all. The scene with the rebbe about his son Sammy becoming a boxer, in a way is something like Benny Leonard and his mother…whom he adored. Poor Benny, one of the very greatest ever to step into the ring…. he died tragically …in the ring as a referee, in the middle of a contest. Age…50.
In the 1920s and early 30s, there were 3 times as many Jewish boxers in New York City alone, as there are boxers (all races and religions) in the whole world today. THAT’S huge bit of “Jewish Sport” news. I was always involved in competitive sport, and was at tournament level in several…apart from boxing..at which I was asked to become a pro 2-3 times. But that was for Goyim in my eyes I was a University Bocher. All so many long years ago….t saddens me to think about it.
Maybe I can just send the whole article-including the comments- to myself…
Thank you again.
Edgar G. Said:
Haaaaaa
@ Edgar G.:
JEWISH SPORT
@ Edgar G.:
Hello, Edgar
Thank you for the good things you said about me. At the great judgment, I will put in a good word for you. As for myself, I would be rightly proud if, after reading the eternal ledger, I should be found to have been “harmless”; but I know better. In seventy years, I have caused enough harm to people to merit hellfire — usually, I am glad out of ignorance rather than malice; but harm nonetheless.
You seem spot-on, in your protrayal of Catholics as a pugnacious lot. I was raised in Polish Catholic neighborhoods; and though I was Catholic, I was still an outsider. I was not a “good” Catholic, because my mother had twice divorced; but my step-father was Polish and well-known in the neighborhood as an athlete and fighter in his youth. He was also 6’4″ and 240 lbs., so if my friends gave me guff, my step-dad would talk to their parents, and they never did it again. My uncle, my Slovenian-American mother’s brother, was a boxer, and died at age 17 a few days after a bout. He was buried without shoes, during the Great Depression. You and I both live in much better times now, thank God!
Concerning Trump’s proposed peace plan, which probably resides mainly in Jared Kushner’s brain, I hate to be a party pooper. I suppose if I lived in Israel, or were a Jew (whose only real home is Israel), I would be concerned in a vigilant sense. My close relatives are in the US, China, the UK and Africa, so I am “relatively” more concerned about those places than others. All of those places have tremendous problems; and my wife and I pray continually, lifting them up to Adonai; because they are too much for us to bear on our own. Besides this, we pray for Israel, and for the likes of you and Bear.
Jared Kushner seems to be one to try to get the parties involved interested in matters that are actually in front of their eyes, and away from dreams and aspirations. Accordingly, Gaza is truly lost to the Arabs already, Israel seems determined to never become “Palestine” (though Avigdor Lieberman expressed an interest in surrendering parts of Israel to them), it would be darned hard to uproot all the Jews from Area C, and Areas A and B (as well as Gaza) seem to be inhabited by a race of unreasoning hyenas who hunger for Jewish flesh (Ted and Bear, forgive my stereotyping; it’s what I see). It would be really convenient, if you could just give Gaza, A and B to the Arabs and the rest to the Jews; but the only forseeable result would be Gaza-as-we-know-it, but on steroids.
Meanwhile, friends of ours, both Jew and Goy, are being accosted in their cars, right here in Oregon, because they “look like Trump people” (If you aren’t one of the accosters, you can be assumed to be a Trumper). People have been going off the rails, as they never have before here; and I say that not because of what I see in the news, but what is happening in our own city and to our own friends. This is very much like the 30s in Germany in some ways. It’s something like being where you can hear bullets whizzing by all the time, but you’re trying to carry on as though nobody’s shooting at you. And I should be concerned about the “Deal of the Century”? I just don’t have it in me at the moment.
@ Bear Klein:
You are at liberty of course to believe or not, whatever… I cannot remember where I saw it mentioned first, but it was some time ago; months . Possibly on Arutz 7, and of course repeatedly on this site-as you point out. But the info was either quoted with names or the whole sentence/paragraph taken from whatever publication and highlighted on this site.
What difference does it make…you don’t believe it anyway, so let it go…. Until recently we’ve always had very good post exchanges. So why now pursue me over trivialities. It’s not a pleasant exchange of differing viewpoints as it could be… You have seemed very combative since I had good things to say about Michael, whom I consider harmless and non-offensive…!!.
As I described here some months ago,..as was growing up, I had to fight my way home through Anti-Semitic jeering, spitting, stone throwing Catholic kids every day. I always fought back. I later became a boxer, and with a record of 59-3 (my last 2 losses, years after I retired) and got much more than my own back. I’m very aggressive -when it’s needed.. But I don’t take offense when I don’t see or feel it.
@ yamit82:
I don’t need to do anything of the kind. I merely repeated what has been published by accredited officials and which I, and surely you too, have read.
I have no intention of “playing psychologist” to you…I believe that a clinical psychologist would “shrink” from this discouraging task….
@ Edgar G.:
I have a good memory I do not recall any place except for this Blog were anyone has claimed the Jordan military is under the control of the US Military. If you have sources aside for this blog (Ted or Mudar) please reveal them to me kindly.
The Brits & US have had influence with the Jordanian military, provide them weapons and training but under their command, again I know of no evidence and do not believe it all!
@ Edgar G.:
When you claim that America has overriding influence over the Jordanian military and intelligence you need to define terms as to the extent of that influence as opposed to any other…. With all of the critical aid, America supplies to Jordan, influence is a given. There is however a difference between influence, whatever that can mean and loyalty which is for them 100% to the Hashemite monarchy. In the Iraqi war, Hussein sided with Saddam is an example of a lack of real influence of America in Jordan.
Edgar G. Said:
Good for you so don’t write those reams….. Pl s don’t play shrink with me you are not qualified.Edgar G. Said:
You are entitled to your own opinion. “Implied pitying denigratory” ??? LOL
@ Bear Klein:
For Yamit also– I admire, respect and accept much of what you both post, unhesitatingly, and generally we are on the same path. but in this particular item…
You may never have believed that, which I can’t dispute, nor would want to; but it is undeniable, that this has been released by reputable officials as fact. You’ve seen it in print as many of us have, numerous times. That’s all I’m talking about. I believe they include the whole Jordanian Intelligence complex. also.
As to whether it’s true or not….well, I DID deal with that possibility, just in my post above. So that should spell finis.
I don’t have to write reams of repetitious doomsday denouements…It’s cathartic for some…… I don’t have that problem….
I just think it’s unnecessary to keep going over and over, the same prophetic, staff-shaking warnings especially in an implied pitying, denigratory way..
Bear Klein Said:
Turkey could have been the one shining example of a Muslim Majority Democratic State… didn’t last and has reverted to classical Muslim dominated dictatorship and all pro-American military leaders have been purged. There cannot be a democracy in a Muslim dominated culture like oil and water.
Bear Klein Said:
THE JORDANIAN ARMY IS COMPOSED OF BEDOUINS LOYAL TO THE HASHEMITES….. THEY HATE THE PALESTINIANS AND THE PALESTINIANS HATE THEM…. Foolish do-gooders do not realize we live in the middle east, not the middle west.
Another scenario is: The Jordanian monarchy won’t last long. Palestinian majority will take over that desert state and, unable to create a viable economy there, will turn to nationalism and militancy. Jordan will become a huge Gaza, rife with terrorist training camps. Jordanians will extend their influence to those Arabs whom Israel failed to expel in violation of the commandment, and they became “a trap for you,” “sore in your eye,” and “masters over you.” In order to establish security, Israel would have no choice but to extend toward Euphrates, relocating the hostile Arabs to Iraq.
As if prompting Israel to fulfill the commandment, a strong and militant state of Iraq was invaded for no reason and destroyed; now the way for relocating Palestinians and Jordanians is cleared.
We accept hard choices and concessions for peace. Unfortunately, among the sea of Muslims, Israel will never live in peace. It is a heart-rending assertion, but true nonetheless.
@ Edgar G.:
I do NOT believe the Jordanian military is under control of the US and I have never believed that!
In fact they are under the control of the Hashmite King of Jordan.
@ Bear Klein:
ANY country run by radicals and/or terrorists would be a HUGE concern. This surely is self-evident and needs no repeating. As for the Jordanian Army etc. being for the king etc. Haven’t we had numerous reports in the media and from posters who researched the matter, that the Army is really under the control of the US…… is that true or just a story.
If true, then when the “crunch” comes…as it will…it’s a matter of what kind of ruler the US supports….the Humpty-Dumpty Jew-Hating kind, or the Mudar Zahran sort..??……
If not true…….than I don’t give a damn……a la Rhett Butler…….he’ll finally overstep too far and It’ll come to a head one day… and then Israel will chase the kinglet out and far away.
Yamit has addressed a viable concern. Jordan run by radicals or terrorists would become a huge problem. This is a real possibility. It could also splinter into parts that some are run by clans and some by terrorists.
Who the army backs is a big deal assuming they back one faction. Would they back Mudar Zaharan? Right now they back the King? Who will the police back, right now they back the King.
Yes, it would be great if Jordan became a democracy and a partner/ally with Israel plus Palestine/Jordan. I am not opposed at all but concerned that this is the middle east and there are many nefarious players who would try to take advantage of regime change in ways that are detrimental to Israel.
Edgar G. Said:
Worst of all possible options. Hamas and MB will take the place over quicker than you can say “Deal Of The Century” They will become Gaza on our eastern border but now in control of a modern army modern lethal weaponry/ They will become in short order a failed state in all that that entails. They will align with Russia. Iran. Syria whatever but replacing the King as bad as he is with crazy Palis seems like madness to me….. transferring them as far away as possible to me sounds like the best and safest way for us not giving them a country army and airforce than will come back and bite us in the ass….. There is no war any state in Jordan can become economically viable and the population will resort to the time-honored profession of killing Jews here. Re; Ted’s Fantasy wrt Jordan Palis like Stalin asked of the Pope ” how many divisions does he have” Whoever controls those divisions gets control of Jordan.
Yes, I think you are likely to be right, Edgar, although I don’t have any data that bears (no pun) on this question. Hussein did seek rapprochement with the United States after his alliance with Nasser failed. Later, he also sought a rapprochment with Israel. His son has reversed thae rapproachment with Israel. I think he still feels he needs a good relationship with the United States, however. He probably thinks, and probably correctly the State department doesn’t really care that harboring terrorists who killed American citizens, becausef these Americans were mainly dual American -Israeli citizens or pro-Israel American Jews, and the State Department dislikes this kind of American Jew.
@ adamdalgliesh:
Perhaps when Jordan honoured previous extradition warrants it was not this king but his father….who, after being destroyed in 1967, tried hard to rehabilitate himself into the “good ol’ boy” again…
This from Daled Amos, in today’s Elder of Ziyon
I am surprised by all the negativity. This plan as described by Liberman and me is a thousand times better than anything Obama proposed. We get to be sovereign over the entire “West Bank” and the Arabs get to be sovereign over the Gaza strip only.
The Plan looks decidedly lopsided in our favour. So what if it provokes violence and rejection by the UN, EU and the PA. They have no say in the matter.
When Mudar comes to power, he will change the name Jordan to Palestine. Then the state of Palestine will be Jordan and Gaza.
Let us assume that Hamas, Fatah, PLO and the PA reject it. Not to worry, no one is going to ask them. In some fashion the Palestinians will decide. There are roughly 3.million Palestinians in the west Bank and Gaza compared to 6 million in Jordan. I don’t know what the Trump administration intends to do to get the necessary approval or what constitutes approval.
I do not believe that this plan would ever have been proposed without the Jordan factor. I believe a strong majority of Israelis will accept it through their parties.
When the dust settles and it will , it will mean the end of the PA, Oslo, UNRWA, the “occupation” and the Palestinian narrative. That is far better than the status quo.
I have never supported the idea of Gaza being part of Palestine. I continue to work at getting the Trump administration to assist in emptying out Gaza and allowing Israel to annex it. If Palestinian approval cannot be found, then emptying out Gaza will be the way to go. Then approval will be obtained.
@ yamit82:
I agree with your appraisal of the situation. It roughly mirrors my own thoughts on the matter. I don’t think that anyone on this site really has any idea as to what the PLAN may be. But one thing I do know. We never get anything without having to pay a quid pro quo -PLUS. Especially from political friends.
I don’t believe that Kushner or Greenblatt have any idea about the REAL Arab psyche. How could they…all they know is that they read a few books, watched “Lawrence of Arabia”.. In which there were twice as many major fictional characters as factual.. 14-8) sat down in a few “tents”, and had sickeningly sweet coffee, and exchanged eternal promises…. (“Promises promises…”) The Arabs themselves often don’t know about anything…except that they hate the Infidel, especially Jews, and want to kill us all.
But I keep hoping that “Jordan is Palestine” comes into it somewhere.
Explaining the Trump Doctrine
By Dr. Alex Joffe December 18, 2018
BESA Center Perspectives Paper No. 1,039, December 18, 2018
@ Ted Belman:
Calls for Gaza being a Pali State with ports and airport….. Land extension up to El Arish in northern Sinai with Egyptian approval. Arabs in Area A will become part of that State with some parts of Areas B&C, There will need to be so passageway between Gaza and Palis autonomous areas in the WB. All settlements are to remain in place….. Ha but no mention of Jerusalem and the Holy sites except to say Jewish areas to remain Jewish & Arab areas to the Arabs
Even if partially correct all I can say is Haaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! Idiots all around.
@ Bear Klein:
Liberman wrote several months ago after the embassy move that Israel will have to pay a high price for Trumps moves in JERUSALEM he now expects a
quid pro quo from Israel and in his mind he is correct….. Now free lunches in America… The deal is for Trump not us. I reject it out of hand and if Israel rejects it watch how Trump reacts…. Israel may have to use our Trump card (no pun intended) by using his pro-Israel christian base against him….. There is no need for a peace deal here no specific urgency. Conditions are not ripe for Peace or land giveaways ME never has been as unstable threats more acute to our existence…. Peace deal will mobilize all parties to the right of BB and many in the Likud may defect…. BB would be nuts to accept the deal before the elections and it shows Trump & idiot Jarred and Greenblatt haven’t a clue…. Rather have Goyim making the plan than court Jews,
Proves Trump’s “Deal of The Century” will be bad for Israel and potentially disastrous to BB’s chances for re-election if he has to run on it. Trump views Peace here as a transactional real estate deal, well it ain’t and he is about to find that out.
Trump asks Netanyahu to make his peace plan the focal election campaign issue
So allegedly Lieberman spoke to some PA official. Who or some other Arab then spoke to a reporter at Al Hayat.
Lieberman denies this all! So this 3rd or 4th hand discourse about a plan none of the participants have read is supposed to be confirmation about Trumps plan?
What is the game people play as little kids, they tell a short story and then have it repeated several times. The story changes radically every time by the last person getting the story!
So please excuse if I do not accept this as face value or confirmation of anything except people are talking about Trumps plan and it is not public and Trump and his circle claim they have not shown it to anyone.
@ Ted Belman:
If the “PLAN” depends on Arabs being at peace….real peace, with Jews… they can flush it down the toilet. Could they be so dense after the millions of examples of Arab undyng hatred…..?? Is Trump that stupid I don’t think so. He’s very smart. And he KNOWS that Israel has to “give” at least somewhat….The Arabs are ALWAYS the problem, which has been very fortunate for us, otherwise there would have been a thorny “peace” which deprived Israel of nearly half it’s sovereign territory. I’ve always maintained it as a HUGE mistake that Israel did NOT assert sovereignty over YESHA from the very beginning. With the Arab lies about it, and the knee-jerk inclination of Goyim to believe the worst of Jews … we see the result of our “modesty” all over the world.
The ghetto Jew was too dominant in Israel’s placatory dealings then.. Nothing much has changed since…
Truth is none of us have read Trumps Plan personally and at best heard rumors, or infer things from what Americans in Trumps inner circle say. Then their is I have a good source.
I have a great source I know personally in Trumps inner circle for years. He has told me nothing except what he has made public already!
In Trump’s Deal of the Century, I wrote,
What I didn’t understand was that this meant Gaza would be part of the Palestinian state along with Jordan.
If the al-Hayyat report is true, it might explain why the Israelis are helping Hamas. Is this part of Trump’s plan?