T. Belman. These dramatic variances have nothing to do with race or nationality or the % of people vaccinated. The only explanation can be found by noting the differences in early treatment, country by country.
Dr McCullough testified before the Texas Senate that early treatment reduces the number of deaths by 85%. He also said there was a dirth of information in the US, amounting to a ban, about what was happening in the rest of the world. McCullough comments on this here.
Israel did not allow early treatment nor did the US. The same for Australia and Canada. The focus in all such countries was entirely on the percentage of vaccinated to the exclusion of any information on early treatment.
What more do you need to know.
NOTE: these figures come from Robert Kennedy’s new book. They are the number of deaths per 1 million population in each country to Sept 20/21.
United States 2,107
Sweden 1,444
Iran 1,449
Germany 1,126
Israel (as of Dec 20/21) 935
Cuba 650
Jamaica 630
Denmark 455
India 327
Finland 194
Vietnaam 197
Norway 161
Japan 139
Pakistan 128
Kenya 97
South Korea 47
Congo 35
Hong Kong 28
China 3
@Bear
@Ted
Sure, I can be more direct.
As Edgar notes, it is not my style, but I can be more direct.
Kennedy’s book surely, being already published and on the market, having data only to September, 3 months ago, is already out of date.
I presume that his figures are from the beginning of the Pandemic.
Apart from that, my opinion, (or “view” as Adam says) which I known is not worth much against all the charts, statistics and other certain information dug up by our learned others, is, that the figures are suspect (except perhaps Sweden’s). . It’s just an opinion, remember,. Because of the figures themselves.
(I agree with Adam that the death rate was much lower than stated, because no consideration was given to other normal causes of death)
China …with a pop of 1.5 BILLIONS..(per million) THREE deaths, and…. India, with a population of over 1.2 BILLIONS (I’m not sure they know how many themselves) of 327.
Even allowing for the miracle of Utar Pradesh, what about the mortality rates before they began using Ivermectin. All the news stories had India “hanging on the ropes”……
As for Peloni’s long-winded essays, yes they are long, but very understandable and make interesting reading-to me. He is not zooming in on “the essence” as Ted is. Well, Ted’s a lawyer and that’s his style. Peloni is more like a lecturer, and that’s HIS style. Bear seeks flaws, and that’s his style.
I like to read and learn from all posters here, and I often do. It does me no real good, nor does it change my material situation one whit.
But I’m a guy, who when reading old Science Fiction Pulps would read everything, from cover to cover, ending with Charles Atlas’ magical guarantees to that consumptive 90 lb weakling who got sand kicked in his face-before taking the Atlas Transformation Course…of course.
These figures confirm my view that the CV19-2 “pandemic” has been blown all out of proportion. Even in the countries with the highest death tolls, only about one in 500 people who develop symptoms of the illness die. That is a very low death rate. Certainly no higher than the death rate from the flu. Perhaps lower.
I believe that even in 2020, before the introduction of the vaccines, the actual death toll from CV19-2 was much lower than the official statistics.The numbers compiled by a certain Dr. Hancock of Bellingham, Washinton state, of the health status of her 1,900 patients, seems to support this hypothesis of mine. Of her incredibly large number of patients, only three passed away in 2020, and none of them of Covid. In 2021, nine of her patients died. But again, none of Covid. Even though Bellingham, a semis-suburban community 35 miles south of Seattle, was reportedly very hard hit by the first Covid wave in March 2020, and the large number of people who contracted the cv19-2 virus in early 2020 received a lot of publicity in the Seattle press, none of Dr. Hancock’s patients died of the disease. Dr. Hancock did treat some patients suffering from Covid in both years, but they all survived. However, the overwhelming majority of the patients who came to her clinic were diagnosed as suffering from from other illnesses, not Covid. Many, she believes, were suffering from stress-related illnesses brought on by the panic about Covid spread by the Federal and state governments and the press. (Dr. Hancock’s story is reported in the December 17 issue of the Wall Street Journal).
If the experiences of Dr. Hancock are representative of those of most other primary care physicians in the United States (I don’t know if this is true or not), then the entire Covid19-2 “pandemic” may be a crual hoax perpetrated on the peope of the world, perhaps by the vaccine manufacturers and governent bureaucrats in cahoots with them.
I agree. I have been trying to explain this to Peloni for some time.
@Peloni
Recently I compared your writings with mine and I came to the same conclusion as Bear.
You should work at being more succinct. I write the way I do, partly because I couldn’t duplicate your style if I wanted to, and partly It comes natural for me to just present the kernel.. I tend to boil it down to the essence.
Write to make points, and not to write a thesis. Your points get lost in the verbage .
Please take this as constructive criticism.
@Peloni, I will say the following not to be mean but as a matter future encouragement. You know your writing is extremely long-winded! You lose me and others in part due to it.
Informative writing educates the reader by imparting straightforward information on a certain topic. Unlike other types of writing, informative writing does not aim to change the reader’s thinking or move the reader to take action. Concise precise writing is easier to read and comprehend.
@Bear
Of course it does, as this is the reality that everyone should be supporting with a single caveat.
Treatments treat the sick and prevent the ill from dying, best as the treatment can. Vaccines prevent disease from becoming established and spreading. They are not, and never have been, mutually exclusive modalities. One does not replace the need or use of the other, necessarily. Still, they each must be proven as safe and they each must be proven as effective, with clean data and no manipulations towards preferred outcomes. There is no explanation for the damage to both public health and the public’s health by pretending vaccines could replace any treatment, especially since it took one full year to develop the vaccine while millions died and hundreds of millions suffered without valid treatments being employed.
It has been claimed, to a ridiculous level, that these scientists and physicians who have criticized the vaccines are simply “anti-vaccine” or “vaccine skeptics”. To exemplify the lack of merit behind these slanders, Malone and Vander Bosshe have each made their entire careers on the development and preparation of safe and effective vaccines, and some that simply did not make the grade. They know the difference between success and failure and were bold enough and principled enough to place their entire life’s work on the line simply to discuss these matters in public. They are schooled in the principles of vaccine research and vaccine development and this was their source of income til they made their concerns known, concerns that have gone unanswered and concerns that only grow more certain with the passage of time and events. Malone helped research and develop the Ebola vaccine and facilitated its sale to Merck. He is no naive in the woods, and no vaccine skeptic. The same is true of Vander Bosshe who worked for GAVI and The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation prior to current events. They are, in truth, vaccine experts and vaccine advocates.
Treatment options certainly make sense. Having medicine that works to heal is certainly logical. Whether this is new drugs or repurposed drugs.
Treatment options plus vaccines make sense to me. All or nothing approach either way defies logic.
There is a great shame that should be held by every nation in the world who acted to prevent treatments from being applied to their public’s need. This shame has grown ever brighter as both the depth of proof of such treatments has only been outpaced by the breadth of results from the use of such treatments growing day by day, over the past two years. The sinister character of the shame of these leaders becomes colored by the realization of the frauds exercised in full witness of the world by key members of the medical establishment who pretend that these treatments were not useful. In place of the possible treatments available, they chose Remdisivir, a failed experimental drug first proposed for HIV with a safety profile so poor that it never successfully completed a drug trial before being employed in those patients most affected by this disease. Should it have been intended to be effective, it would have needed to be used within the first week of disease, when it could destroy the virus which is its only benefit. Hence, since it is not employed til well past that time, the patient gains none of the benefits of this drug and all of its toxicity.
Meanwhile, as time has passed, the miracle of India has served to prompt some nations towards a credible policy and achieve the true gold standard of pursuing zero cases and zero deaths. Of all the nations with a modernized medical system, only Japan has acted towards this goal. To the best of their ability these facts have been left hidden or simply ignored by the political elites. Still, despite their best efforts, these facts are known to millions around the world and the proven wisdom of utilizing such medical regimens to treat the ill only continues to grow with the passage of time. Thus, the clear certainty of the benefits of treatment have come fully into the public square, where grocers and mechanics are reading NEJM and bakers and salesmen have been forced to consider the outcomes of randomized trials and observational studies.
Yet, the political leadership of the world is too blind to see these state-wide examples before them as relevant to their public’s care. Rather they bully their public, abuse them, manipulate them and deceive them. They attack them with verbal derisions, even employing these techniques against school children. They battle their citizens in the streets with bullets, clubs, and water cannons for displaying an impudence of voicing their dissent for a lack of care and a lack of caring, while these political elites remain poised to defend their choice of a lack of treatment as the only possible cure, oblivious to the reality that the dead keep dying. The fight against a pandemic is a war, even a engineered pandemic. The enemy in this fight is the spread of disease, and the trauma and deaths that result from it. These should be the focus of the battle, not the public, and not their demand of access to effective treatments and their civil liberties.
Whether these matters are ignored by the authorities and their medical allies out of a bunker mentality defending their poor choices or it is due to their complicity in supporting or establishing this fraud, their actions are potently pathetic to the task before them. Their failure is further enhanced with every hospitalization and every death that results from a policy pregnant with arrogance and guided by ignorance. As they slip, step by step, towards further totalitarian actions to defend their poor choices, they become further removed from their public’s input, as a tyrant held safe in his tower. Yet, despite these challenging distractions to the purpose at hand, the virus will continue to spread, choosing new victims in which to infect, breeding new vaccine-chosen mutants, and acting to facilitate further deaths, while proscribed treatments, which truly are safe and effective, are prevented from being discussed openly or prescribed freely. Hence, it is not that these leaders can not make a decisive choice to bring this war against the plague to a rapid end. Its only that they choose not to do so.
Til such time as their choice in this matter changes, their shame and culpability will grow unabated.