I am an “agnostic” about the vaccines, because the published data, from both unofficial and official sources, seems contradictory. The “anecdotal” evidence, referring to the “fates” of particular individuals, is also contradictory. While the main stream media has publicized the death from VCovid-19 of antivx leaders and activists, the “alternative” media has publicized the deaths or severe illnesses of numerous individuals that occured shorty, and in some cases immediately, after they were vaccinated. These testimonials include heart-rending videos of survivors of post-vaccine illnesses, and of the relatives of deceased individuals describing the agonies of their departed loved ones after they were vaccinated. I have no special reason to doubt either the stories of people who died of covid after being vaccinated, or those of individuals who died of othe painful illnesses after being vaccinated. It reminds me of the comedian Tom Lehrer’s line, “if the hoods don’t get you then monoxide will.”
Acocrding to some alternative media sources, ABC recently asked individuals whose relatives died of Covid to post their stories on ABC’s Facebook page. But to the suprise of ABC producers, they received 39,000 replies on their page that were mainly stories of people whose relatives died after being vaccinated, and those of people who said they became gravely ill after being vaccinated, although they survived. I don’t know whether or not ABC has confirmed the accuract of these reports.
Finally, a voice of reason from a member of the Medical Establishment.
Dr. Marty Makary: ‘Those Who Are Unvaccinated Pose No Risk to the Vaccinated Beyond That of a Common Cold’
By Melanie Arter | August 5, 2021 | 10:21am EDT
(CNSNews.com) – People who are unvaccinated and not immune to COVID-19 have been demonized, “and it’s unfounded,” according to Dr. Marty Makary, a professor at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and Bloomberg School of Public Health, because “those who are unvaccinated pose no risk to the vaccinated beyond that of a common cold.
Makary said he’s concerned that there may be another year of virtual learning in schools, “because Delta is projected to peak in late August and early September.”
“As schools are starting to open up you’ll see the incline that will be interpreted as the beginning of a larger wave, but this is not a stock price. This is the number of cases. It only captures the cases reported, not home cases, and it doesn’t recognize it’s in a younger population and hospitalizations are disproportionately much lower,” he told Fox News’s “America’s Newsroom” on Thursday.
“I wish we would change the lexicon and stop talking about the vaccinated and unvaccinated and just talk about the immune and non-immune. There’s been this demonization of those who are not immune, not vaccinated, and it’s unfounded. Those who are unvaccinated pose no risk to the vaccinated beyond that of a common cold,” Makary said.
He said the Delta variant spread quicker, “but there’s no evidence that it’s more virulent and dangerous in kids.”
“If you go to COVID net on the CDC website, you’ll see the rate of hospitalizations for COVID on that site is 0.3 per million in the population. We’ve imposed a tremendous amount of restrictions on 50 million kids. I can’t believe it’s now going to be coming on two years when we ask them to cover their faces and give up their livelihoods based on really flimsy data,” Makary said.
“We don’t even know how many deaths were verified or how many were in healthy kids versus kids with a co-morbid condition. The CDC director herself said she didn’t know,” he added.
Makary said that there’s been “a tremendous toll on kids’ mental health or development, on nutrition and these other things discounted when we focus only on cases and transmission.”
When asked whether vaccinated people are worried about the government continuing lockdowns, mask mandates, and closing schools if we don’t get enough people vaccinated, Makary said, “Well, look, there’s been over 1,000 variants.
“We track them very closely on an international website called nextstrain.org, and you can go on there and see that of the — all the variants out there, over 1,000. The immunity that we have is entirely encompassing,” Makary said.
“So the idea that there’s going to be a new variant that’s gonna emerge – by the way, the bar gets higher the more contagious the current variant is – that it’s going to somehow change the game, I think it’s unfair. Dr. Fauci alluded to it yesterday. I think it was really an unfair projection as to what’s going to happen. Delta will be with us for a long time, because it has out-competed the other variants out there,” he said.
Well, look at this! https://humansarefree.com/2021/09/india-uttar-pradesh-covid-free-ivermectin.html
Explosive! India State Of 241 MILLION People Declared COVID-Free After Government Promotes Ivermectin.
Now you see what the genocidal maniacs are doing to us! Plain as day!
Every rabbi who is party to the genocidal agenda by pushing the kill shot is guilty, as well as the leaders in pact with this agenda and aided by the pharmakiea executioners, and Jesuit Fauxi at the helm. Fauxi’s name means “ scythe”, as in the grim reaper’s hand.
India has practically wiped out COVID by giving a $5 pack of ivermectin & vitamins to their people! Why not publish that!? All these reams of blather here are irrational BS. Plus, India has indicted their health minister for genocide. A very nice looking, gray haired lady. You wouldn’t know by looking at her that she is pushing mass murder! That’s the real news! India’s leaders have baitsim! Also, India sent Netanyahu millions of doses of ivermectin and he did not use it for his people, but continued the state sponsored murder which Bennet is carrying on! The mass psychosis is REAL!
@Bear
Your kind words concerning my fate are much appreciated. I hope we all can avoid this and many other rising terrible fates. The way to do that is to consider all the hard facts, and they are facts, not beliefs as you suggest. That they gamed the data is not a belief, and perhaps the word ‘gamed’ is inappropriate, so let us change that to “they changed how to collect data”. I know that many find comfort and certainty in the vax, but this change in data collection is irrelevant to your beliefs on the vax. They changed the way data was collected and they state the details in their “Methods” section of the NEJM publication. You can read it for yourself:
we compared the rate of confirmed Covid-19 and the rate of severe illness between those who had received a booster injection at least 12 days earlier (booster group) and those who had not received a booster injection (nonbooster group). In a secondary analysis, we evaluated the rate of infection 4 to 6 days after the booster dose as compared with the rate at least 12 days after the booster.
They didn’t use this odd data collection protocol in their EUA studies last fall. They didn’t use this odd data collection protocol in the followup study last spring. Why the change in data collection for the Booster. How you collect data is as important as how a banker counts cash. You can’t selectively ignore the harms induced by the drug being studied for at least 12 days, 5 days or 1 day. The placebo group gets a placebo, not a placebo and the drug upto 5 or at least 12 days. You can’t limit the consequence of data associated with the drug being tested for upto 12days or more past administration(and it doessays “at least 12days”). So, this isn’t an opinion and it isn’t my belief. It is what they did and they tell us this right in the methods, where only the most festidious scientists will normally read. Of course due to the censorship, you will hear none of this, which brings us back to the question if no one is listening and a tree falls in the forest, will ignoring the first two weeks of data have an impact on the trial findings? For this, lets look at the results:
At least 12 days after the booster dose, the rate of confirmed infection was lower in the booster group than in the nonbooster group by a factor of 11.3…; the rate of severe illness was lower by a factor of 19.5… In a secondary analysis, the rate of confirmed infection at least 12 days after vaccination was lower than the rate after 4 to 6 days by a factor of 5.4
What that means is if we drop the at least 12days down to just 5, the 20X falls to 5X. What if we were to pull the curtain back fully to 0days, ie collect all the info post-vax which is all relevant? We will never know. This isn’t a petty issue. It isn’t a belief or suspicious. This isn’t normal and we can only ask why we don’t know this info.
If the data showed an improvement, we should know what and when that improvement occurs – it is vital that we know this. If the data shows deterioration in the test subject, we should know what and when deterioration occurs – it is vital that we know this. Instead, we are presuming that everyone who becomes sick after being injected should be presumed not to have been injected at all for upto 12day or more. This is a design flaw, and one which renders the data is useless.
@Peloni, if the result of the study does not suit your beliefs perhaps you are just not able to come to grips with it, so they must be gaming the numbers. You have a right to believe whatever you want. Others have also refused to be vaccinated and died as of a result. They also had very strongly held beliefs that they took to the grave. I truly hope you escape this horrible fate.
A new Israeli study published in the The New England Journal of Medicine on Wednesday said that a Pfizer booster shot lowers the likelihood of developing a serious coronavirus case by almost 20 times.
@Bear
A new Israeli study published in the The New England Journal of Medicine on Wednesday said that a Pfizer booster shot lowers the likelihood of developing a serious coronavirus case by almost 20 times.
They gamed the data, there is no other way to describe their actions. They are not counting any consequences for their vaccines til 12days post-injection which is when the overwhelming majority of the secondary infections due to the reduced immunity will occur. It is also the same period in which over 80% of the vaccine injuries will occur. So, the diseases and resulting deaths that result from the vaccines, as well as the injuries that result from the vaccine, will nearly all be counted with the unvaccinated. Forgive the sarcasm, but with built in bias such as this, my only question is why is it only 20times. Also, if this 20X claim is true and not another lie, why are we 7wks post rollout and the new daily cases are still nearly 8K, average deaths are at 6X higher than when the rollout began, while serious disease is at an all time high since the rollout? Before this new jab, Israel was listed as #34 on Worldometer.com for the most cases, now it is at #31 and rising. They can fix the data, but the cases are still present but unexplained given the 20X claim.
@Bear
“The pandemic in the United States as it was presented in the discussion was similar to what we [in Israel] had three months ago,…However, “In Israel now, with tens of thousands of new cases every day”
You may have missed the nuance here, but she is claiming that Israel is having a problem with “tens of thousands of new cases every day” which translates into 7455 new cases yesterday, while the US is will not have a problem for 3months even as the US had 165K cases yesterday. Another lie.
The claim that the vaccine provides
“high level of protection from hospitalization, severe illness and death”
is nonsense – Delta is less lethal(2% vs 0.2% deaths you can check the British technical briefing). It is in India, as it is in England, as it is in the US. Delta is just less lethal, but spreads much much quicker and evades the vax to some extent. Another lie.
However, “In Israel now, with tens of thousands of new cases every day, the risk of young people ages 16-39 getting infected and developing life-threatening symptoms is much higher than the risk of vaccination.
Another lie. 16-39 don’t get seious illness unless they have underlying illnesses. The survival rate for this age group is 99.9%. People may prefer to pursue this 3rd jab, but they just use these lies as valid basis for their actions. Another lie.
When I find people lying to me, not misspeaking, not speaking without knowing, but actually twisting facts to support their intended goals, I stop believing them even when they tel me water is wet, until I can judge the truth from a better source. I would suggest when a govt agency is the one demonstrating these lies on a routine basis, that their lies have both a consequence and a purpose.
A new Israeli study published in the The New England Journal of Medicine on Wednesday said that a Pfizer booster shot lowers the likelihood of developing a serious coronavirus case by almost 20 times.
@Ted
The studies so far show the third dose is sufficient to boost resistance back to the level after the first two
From a medical perspective, no, absolutely not. But Bennett does not have a medical background, but I still can’t find a rationale, any rationale, why he would pursue this policy given what is easily known. As with the votes in an election, it is important how you count the deaths and injuries after vaccination and, as with all things Covid, this is not done routinely. Bennett is looking at the recent study coming from the Israeli data and heralding the ‘fact’ that they were able to “boost resistance back to the level after the first two”. It of course helps when you don’t count the deaths and injuries associated with the vaccines. They are now including any deaths or injuries upto 12days post-vax and labled them as unvaccinated, which you probably are aware – I think you posted an article on the subject either today or yesterday. This has never been done in vaccine trials, never. Once a vaccine is administered, the consequential harm is on the vaccine starting on the day of injection, except in the 3rd jab of Covid. This new interpretation of how to interpret vaccine casualties will render any further information from the vaccine program, as quite uninformative. There are 2 types of vaccine injuries, short-term and long-term. The short term is associated with the immune system being weakened to allow a secondary infection and vaccine injuries. Both of these will be included in the unvaccinated category to a very large extent. The consequence of this is that you have a perfect scorecard for the vaccines and the unvaccinated look like they are becoming quite ill with no vaccines. Bennett may or not know these facts, but if he does, he is an idiot, which I don’t believe is the case.
Regardless of these facts, though, I can’t believe he doesn’t know about the Indian Covid-revolution where Covid has been eliminated in a state(Utar Pradesh) that has a population(241million) 22X the size of Israel, where only 5.8% of the public are fully vaccinated with a lesser rated vaccine, whatever that means these days.
But even worse than this, I am certain that he knows about the alarming level of cases in Israel where deaths are up, cases are up and serious cases are up. Deaths seem to have plateaued but we are still losing 24patients/day. The new cases are down a bit, but not much. The seriously ill are at an all time high. And it has been almost 7weeks since the 3rd jab rollout began, and the January peak took place at a little short of one month post rollout. To paint a happy face on this is to deny reality. To prefer this current tract of policy over the Indian model is madness. I do not assess Bennett as delusional or irrational, so I find his continuation in this policy inexplicable.
Head of Public Health Services Dr. Sharon Elrai-Price told Israel Hayom that “the decision makes sense for US data,” however the situation in Israel was different.
“The pandemic in the United States as it was presented in the discussion was similar to what we [in Israel] had three months ago,” she explained. “Although there had been a decrease in the efficacy of the vaccine, there was still a high level of protection from hospitalization, severe illness and death. This is exactly the data we had, and at the time we said that the vaccines were effective.”
However, “In Israel now, with tens of thousands of new cases every day, the risk of young people ages 16-39 getting infected and developing life-threatening symptoms is much higher than the risk of vaccination. For example, with the risk of developing myocarditis. The chances of developing it as a result of coronary heart disease are almost six times higher than the chances of developing it from the vaccine itself, so the vaccine is safe and effective. It is crucial to understand that once there is [high] morbidity in the country, it is much more dangerous than the vaccine.”
peloni
Can you reconcile this with what Bennett says above.
Thank you for sharing this Ted. This information is so important and no one is reporting it. This young man’s video should be shared as much as possible. If you look into the India data, the information he shares here is only the tip of the iceberg.
Anyone interested can visit this website: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus
and play around with the various nations to compare both their virus and their vaccine details.
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I am an “agnostic” about the vaccines, because the published data, from both unofficial and official sources, seems contradictory. The “anecdotal” evidence, referring to the “fates” of particular individuals, is also contradictory. While the main stream media has publicized the death from VCovid-19 of antivx leaders and activists, the “alternative” media has publicized the deaths or severe illnesses of numerous individuals that occured shorty, and in some cases immediately, after they were vaccinated. These testimonials include heart-rending videos of survivors of post-vaccine illnesses, and of the relatives of deceased individuals describing the agonies of their departed loved ones after they were vaccinated. I have no special reason to doubt either the stories of people who died of covid after being vaccinated, or those of individuals who died of othe painful illnesses after being vaccinated. It reminds me of the comedian Tom Lehrer’s line, “if the hoods don’t get you then monoxide will.”
Acocrding to some alternative media sources, ABC recently asked individuals whose relatives died of Covid to post their stories on ABC’s Facebook page. But to the suprise of ABC producers, they received 39,000 replies on their page that were mainly stories of people whose relatives died after being vaccinated, and those of people who said they became gravely ill after being vaccinated, although they survived. I don’t know whether or not ABC has confirmed the accuract of these reports.
Finally, a voice of reason from a member of the Medical Establishment.
Well, look at this! https://humansarefree.com/2021/09/india-uttar-pradesh-covid-free-ivermectin.html
Explosive! India State Of 241 MILLION People Declared COVID-Free After Government Promotes Ivermectin.
Now you see what the genocidal maniacs are doing to us! Plain as day!
Every rabbi who is party to the genocidal agenda by pushing the kill shot is guilty, as well as the leaders in pact with this agenda and aided by the pharmakiea executioners, and Jesuit Fauxi at the helm. Fauxi’s name means “ scythe”, as in the grim reaper’s hand.
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=75964 India practically wipes out COVID in Delhi, India!
India has practically wiped out COVID by giving a $5 pack of ivermectin & vitamins to their people! Why not publish that!? All these reams of blather here are irrational BS. Plus, India has indicted their health minister for genocide. A very nice looking, gray haired lady. You wouldn’t know by looking at her that she is pushing mass murder! That’s the real news! India’s leaders have baitsim! Also, India sent Netanyahu millions of doses of ivermectin and he did not use it for his people, but continued the state sponsored murder which Bennet is carrying on! The mass psychosis is REAL!
@Bear
Your kind words concerning my fate are much appreciated. I hope we all can avoid this and many other rising terrible fates. The way to do that is to consider all the hard facts, and they are facts, not beliefs as you suggest. That they gamed the data is not a belief, and perhaps the word ‘gamed’ is inappropriate, so let us change that to “they changed how to collect data”. I know that many find comfort and certainty in the vax, but this change in data collection is irrelevant to your beliefs on the vax. They changed the way data was collected and they state the details in their “Methods” section of the NEJM publication. You can read it for yourself:
They didn’t use this odd data collection protocol in their EUA studies last fall. They didn’t use this odd data collection protocol in the followup study last spring. Why the change in data collection for the Booster. How you collect data is as important as how a banker counts cash. You can’t selectively ignore the harms induced by the drug being studied for at least 12 days, 5 days or 1 day. The placebo group gets a placebo, not a placebo and the drug upto 5 or at least 12 days. You can’t limit the consequence of data associated with the drug being tested for upto 12days or more past administration(and it doessays “at least 12days”). So, this isn’t an opinion and it isn’t my belief. It is what they did and they tell us this right in the methods, where only the most festidious scientists will normally read. Of course due to the censorship, you will hear none of this, which brings us back to the question if no one is listening and a tree falls in the forest, will ignoring the first two weeks of data have an impact on the trial findings? For this, lets look at the results:
What that means is if we drop the at least 12days down to just 5, the 20X falls to 5X. What if we were to pull the curtain back fully to 0days, ie collect all the info post-vax which is all relevant? We will never know. This isn’t a petty issue. It isn’t a belief or suspicious. This isn’t normal and we can only ask why we don’t know this info.
If the data showed an improvement, we should know what and when that improvement occurs – it is vital that we know this. If the data shows deterioration in the test subject, we should know what and when deterioration occurs – it is vital that we know this. Instead, we are presuming that everyone who becomes sick after being injected should be presumed not to have been injected at all for upto 12day or more. This is a design flaw, and one which renders the data is useless.
@Peloni, if the result of the study does not suit your beliefs perhaps you are just not able to come to grips with it, so they must be gaming the numbers. You have a right to believe whatever you want. Others have also refused to be vaccinated and died as of a result. They also had very strongly held beliefs that they took to the grave. I truly hope you escape this horrible fate.
@Bear
They gamed the data, there is no other way to describe their actions. They are not counting any consequences for their vaccines til 12days post-injection which is when the overwhelming majority of the secondary infections due to the reduced immunity will occur. It is also the same period in which over 80% of the vaccine injuries will occur. So, the diseases and resulting deaths that result from the vaccines, as well as the injuries that result from the vaccine, will nearly all be counted with the unvaccinated. Forgive the sarcasm, but with built in bias such as this, my only question is why is it only 20times. Also, if this 20X claim is true and not another lie, why are we 7wks post rollout and the new daily cases are still nearly 8K, average deaths are at 6X higher than when the rollout began, while serious disease is at an all time high since the rollout? Before this new jab, Israel was listed as #34 on Worldometer.com for the most cases, now it is at #31 and rising. They can fix the data, but the cases are still present but unexplained given the 20X claim.
@Bear
You may have missed the nuance here, but she is claiming that Israel is having a problem with “tens of thousands of new cases every day” which translates into 7455 new cases yesterday, while the US is will not have a problem for 3months even as the US had 165K cases yesterday. Another lie.
The claim that the vaccine provides
is nonsense – Delta is less lethal(2% vs 0.2% deaths you can check the British technical briefing). It is in India, as it is in England, as it is in the US. Delta is just less lethal, but spreads much much quicker and evades the vax to some extent. Another lie.
Another lie. 16-39 don’t get seious illness unless they have underlying illnesses. The survival rate for this age group is 99.9%. People may prefer to pursue this 3rd jab, but they just use these lies as valid basis for their actions. Another lie.
When I find people lying to me, not misspeaking, not speaking without knowing, but actually twisting facts to support their intended goals, I stop believing them even when they tel me water is wet, until I can judge the truth from a better source. I would suggest when a govt agency is the one demonstrating these lies on a routine basis, that their lies have both a consequence and a purpose.
@Ted
From a medical perspective, no, absolutely not. But Bennett does not have a medical background, but I still can’t find a rationale, any rationale, why he would pursue this policy given what is easily known. As with the votes in an election, it is important how you count the deaths and injuries after vaccination and, as with all things Covid, this is not done routinely. Bennett is looking at the recent study coming from the Israeli data and heralding the ‘fact’ that they were able to “boost resistance back to the level after the first two”. It of course helps when you don’t count the deaths and injuries associated with the vaccines. They are now including any deaths or injuries upto 12days post-vax and labled them as unvaccinated, which you probably are aware – I think you posted an article on the subject either today or yesterday. This has never been done in vaccine trials, never. Once a vaccine is administered, the consequential harm is on the vaccine starting on the day of injection, except in the 3rd jab of Covid. This new interpretation of how to interpret vaccine casualties will render any further information from the vaccine program, as quite uninformative. There are 2 types of vaccine injuries, short-term and long-term. The short term is associated with the immune system being weakened to allow a secondary infection and vaccine injuries. Both of these will be included in the unvaccinated category to a very large extent. The consequence of this is that you have a perfect scorecard for the vaccines and the unvaccinated look like they are becoming quite ill with no vaccines. Bennett may or not know these facts, but if he does, he is an idiot, which I don’t believe is the case.
Regardless of these facts, though, I can’t believe he doesn’t know about the Indian Covid-revolution where Covid has been eliminated in a state(Utar Pradesh) that has a population(241million) 22X the size of Israel, where only 5.8% of the public are fully vaccinated with a lesser rated vaccine, whatever that means these days.
But even worse than this, I am certain that he knows about the alarming level of cases in Israel where deaths are up, cases are up and serious cases are up. Deaths seem to have plateaued but we are still losing 24patients/day. The new cases are down a bit, but not much. The seriously ill are at an all time high. And it has been almost 7weeks since the 3rd jab rollout began, and the January peak took place at a little short of one month post rollout. To paint a happy face on this is to deny reality. To prefer this current tract of policy over the Indian model is madness. I do not assess Bennett as delusional or irrational, so I find his continuation in this policy inexplicable.
peloni
Can you reconcile this with what Bennett says above.
Thank you for sharing this Ted. This information is so important and no one is reporting it. This young man’s video should be shared as much as possible. If you look into the India data, the information he shares here is only the tip of the iceberg.
Anyone interested can visit this website:
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus
and play around with the various nations to compare both their virus and their vaccine details.