By Ted Belman
Joel Meltzer organized this conference which was held in Jerusalem about a month ago. I helped promote it and arranged that it be videotaped. The speakers were Caroline Glick, Amb. Yoram Ettinger, Dani Dayan and Motti Kedar. Below are the videos from the event. They are not very professionally done but I did the best I could. Paris David Blumenthal came in from Ashdod to take the videos and David Reaboi of the Centre For Security Policy in the US edited the videos. Thanks to both of you.
Ted my comment to Felix was blocked pls. release. How about changing your spam filter?
@ Felix Quigley:
addressed to all but especially to Yamit
Trotskys and Bronsteins
“It’s the Trotskys who make revolutions and the Bronsteins who pay the price!”
Cycles and Revolutions:
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Who would be my prototype of a real Jewish leader? Mordechai the Jew
One Can Only Rely On One’s Own Hands . . . And Feet..(JEWISH DEFENSE LEAGUE OF SHUSHAN HABIRA
by Dr. Israel Eldad)
If not miracles, what is there to rely upon? For Mordechai, the Jew of ancient Shushan, it was not enough to have the anti-Jewish decree revoked. He also realized that it was necessary to pray and fast — and pray and fast he did. He saw that it was necessary to plead with the king, and so he sent a certain lady to plead with him. Ultimately, he also asked the king’s permission to destroy and kill all of Haman’s followers, and if the Book of Esther says that he killed seventy-five thousand men that day it means that Haman has a whole party behind him a kind of Persian SS or Fatah, through which he had intended to implement his final solution. On them Mordechai took his revenge.
This is a good thing to keep in mind. For, of course, there were people in the ghettoes and in the forests who fought back and took their vengeance. But they came too late. Most of the Jews of Europe were exterminated. This is a good thing to remember — lest once again we be too late. What Mordechai did in Shushan was to set up a Jewish Defense — and Revenge — League. The Book of Esther, which was compiled in Persia, says that he did so with King Ahasuerus’ consent. But who can tell. Queen Esther certainly could not tell the whole truth, how Mordechai had set up this organization long before he got official permission for it, so that it was ready when he needed it. Certainly no democratic regime can suffer in it midst an illegal organization for armed defense. On the other hand — one cannot always rely on the “establishment” and on the police. Sometimes they come too late. Nor can one always rely on the democracy of a city like Shushan.
Therefore, a people that has a leader like Mordechai, a leader who can follow the triple course of faith and prayer, of political action and active defense may call itself truly blessed.
Trotsky after the Russian Revolution
The living arm here is the Israeli people
The lever is the leadership (which just does not exist in Israel)
addressed to all but especially to Yamit
Stupid Jews, wake up quick!
@ aaron shuster:
The masses will follow whoever controls the narrative at any given time and circumstances.
“What Alexander Hamilton said in his day [“the masses are asses”] was a mere echo of a famous Yiddish folk saying, “der oylem iz a goylem”. The golem, one recalls, is that brutish being incapable of independent thought, and keyed to the will of its master. Alas, the more things change, the less anything in the Jewish world does. The OYLEM, the Jews, remains a GOYLEM…”
@ BlandOatmeal:
In otherwords if we won’t let you in through the front door you can come through the back door providing of course that there are enough stupid Jews here to let you in.
I live in Israel and still don’t know what the majority of Jews want and BTW, I don’t care what any majority here wants. It;s always a zealous minority that determines the outcome either in our context the right or the left, religious or secular etc.
This is also historically true for every transitional and revolutionary movement in all of history. The left both in Israel and the west in general always seem to reinvent themselves according to existing circumstances but the right religious or secular, usually remain truer to first principles.
Some form of the religious right will win-out here because they are focused on the ends served and not deterred by the many zig zags and ever changing superficial political and economic currents. If in time a Charismatic Leader of this Israeli right arises everything you blieve today will be mute. My take is that most Jewish Israelis really want such a leader who will unite Israel around Jewish strength and Jewish values, culture and Jewish Laws.
In such a state of course no Christian will be allowed into Israel and all Arabs removed. For Catholics the still majority of Christianity Rome is the spiritual center and for non Catholics depends on which cult you are asking re: what if any is their spiritual center. The Bahai, have a huge spiritual center in Haifa. Since they are not Pagan they can stay.
I would change the name of the IDF, to just the “Army of Israel” where the concept of defense does not exist as a military or political doctrine. I would rather see an Israel hated by the world but alive than loved by the world after we are dead.
If Israel and our leaders refuse to do what is incumbent upon them from a Jewish POV, then circumstances will materialize to force them to do what they refused to do beforehand.
dlurya Said:
Assuming the Arabs were fluffy teddy bears without a drop of homicidal Jihadists tendencies in their history or their thoughts, this is not true. Israel’s housing problems begin with the land allocations and prices controlled by the Israeli government’s Lands Authority bureaucracy. From there it continues with the high cost of imported construction machinery and materials, much of it due to customs and VAT addon costs.
Both the Negev and the Galil are underdeveloped and both are losing their Jewish majority. If I’m not mistaken, the Galil has lost it already. All this in addition to the government being impotent to the massive land grabs by Bedouin and Arabs throughout the country.
Don’t get me wrong. Yehuda and Shomron should have been declared Israel sovereign territory in 1967. But the housing problems in Israel are not directly related to this in any way.
The only persistent idiot here is you. In addition to crackpot christian messyanic “Ephramite” sects actually claiming entitlement to areas in Judea and Samaria, the government and the local Jewish populace in J&S just keep on enticing and promoting these christian Israeli wannabees even more.
@BlandOatmeal –
Mate, have you taken some angry pills lately? Don’t you think its a beautiful thing that while they don’t want it, they will end up with it as their enemies are currently tearing themselves apart?
It was good, as usual, to see Caroline Glick clearly and logically enunciating the issues. She revealed an ugly fact, though, that the Jews of Israel can’t make up their own minds about whether or not they want to keep control over their country’s heartland.
My first response to this, was, “If the Jews don’t want Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem, why don’t we just mobilize a million American Christians to take over the place?” That is feasible — much more feasible than expecting the Jews either here or there to do the same. Christians, after all, do have a legitimate claim over the area. They claim a spiritual heritage there, in that their leader Jesus was born and raised there, as well as all his followers. Western Christians also maintained a country in Israel for about a hundred years, with its capital in Jerusalem — more than the Jews have done since the time of the Maccabees; and this makes no mention of the hundreds of years that Eastern Christians lived and ruled there.
If American Christians DID do such a thing, as idiots like Moishe Feiglin are sure to say they plan to, the Jews would without a doubt instantly side with the Moslems to oppose them — just as they suicidally did during the time of the Crusades.
The sad summation of it all, is that the Jews don’t actually want Israel, but they don’t want anyone else to have it either. I don’t think highly of people with that kind of attitude.
Not a single Israeli Cabinet member attended the forum. Overturning the obsolete two state paradigm will require changing public opinion. The truth is there is no peace to be had on partition principles with the Palestinian Arabs on any reasonable terms.
Without sovereignty, Israel will become a stagnant ghetto- with no room for growth, no future for its younger generations. Even now, young Israeli people are complaining that they cannot afford to live in Israel, and sadly many have had to move away in order to make a life, have a home and raise children. It is a terrible sacrifice. This is tragic. Then of course, there is the reality that the land is geographically designed and arranged to provide security from invasion. I am very happy to see a group is now forming to promote the cause. We have to determine our out destiny, and not allow others, foreigners to do it for us. That would be an anathema to the Jewish people and Jewish nation.