As Jewish institutions fight over American evangelicals’ deep pockets, an in-depth look at a controversial yet fruitful relationship
WELL WORTH THE READ
As Jewish institutions fight over American evangelicals’ deep pockets, an in-depth look at a controversial yet fruitful relationship
WELL WORTH THE READ
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@ robin@longhornproject.org:
Perhaps your enthusiasm has gotten the better of you
robin@longhornproject.org Said:
I agree, I don’t agree with Pastor Hagee and I am suspicious of a few of his motives, but when has few friends you don’t reject the ones you do have.
I agree with your last point. That is why I like Pastor Hegee with CUFI. Witch is over 2 million strong. He is against missionary work. and say that he respects Jews because he came form us and our land.
By their desire to convert the Jew, they prove themselves to be the most anti-Semitic of all Christian groups, for the whole idea of conversion is anti-Semitic.
Christian missionary love for the Jew is a kind of hatred. It loves the Jew, yet hates him for being what he is. It sees him as blind and in need of being changed into a believer. When missionary efforts failed, or are foiled, the love for the Jew quickly turns to hatred and contempt.” (Shmuel Golding, Anti-Semitism in the New Testament).
@ robin@longhornproject.org:
I think you and dweller should meet you have so much in common. He lives in your general area.
Beth Am (Los Altos) the richest temple in the San Francisco Bay Area has ordered me not to speak to their members at their activities about the Israel Longhorn Project.
This Congregation is a supporter of Jstreet. They host Jstreet activities.
JStreet is a Jewish Con organization who Anti Semitic and intends to destroy Israel. JStreet has made contacts Hamas, an Arab terrorist organization. JStreet are Jewish Traitors for proof see the film JStreet.
The Reform Jews of Beth Am Los Altos, Ca have betrayed Israel.
Then a police office called me for the San Clara police Department; he may have been connected to one of members. He told me that I would be arrested charged with harassment. Harassment is sending many emails but I only sent 3 or 4 recently at the most. They had sent me a letter telling me to remove all the betham.org emails, which I did. Then the officer told me I made a telephone call to them. And I did, I was checking if I should come to their torah study group and bring the cheesecake, I made especially for my friends there. I was told that I could come but I was not allowed to speak about the Longhorn project to anyone. I got angry and called the main office of the congregation told them that they had betrayed Israel and were Jewish Traitors.
Under the Patriot Act the whole congregation could be arrested for supporting terrorism.
The non-Jewish Americans whom I best get along with are hard-core Mormons, Southern Baptists and Evangelicals.
But I never treat these good folks as spiritual substitutes for the mostly liberal and foolish American liberal and non-Zionist Jews, from whom I never had cause to part company because I wasn’t raised by my father or influenced by my lifetime of experiences to be one of them. Their fundamental Christian world is as separate from my authentic Jewish Idea as if we inhabited separate universes. The night Rav Meir Kahane died from his Arab gunshot wounds in New York City, and I learned of it from one of the rav’s key supporters who had attended his last siyum, I made a private vow that I would never stray from the ideal of a Jewish nation independent of all others. That is a vow from which I do not waver.
Indeed, many Christians here in the USA, and probably also in many other countries, work to be friendly and supportive of Israel. And for that we should be kind enough to thank them.
But having written that, I nevertheless maintain that we must never allow the Jewish nation and the Jewish state to become wards of any non-Jews, irrespective of what some of us may think such people have done for us. In any case, it is better for them not to have us as ingrateful dependents, and absolutely vital for us that we work incessantly for the total independence of the Jewish state and nation. These are reasons I always have thought that societies such as Japan, Singapore, China, India and Russia — in the long run, at least — make better allies for the Jewish state than any other powers. The religions of all these societies — including Eastern Orthodox Christian Russia — are not are not interested in converting us. Mostly, they seem interested in doing business with us, in pursuit of their own national interests, which is an attitude I not only understand but for which I fully agree.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
@ robin@longhornproject.org:
Show me your sources?
Do you know who funded Israel’s national water system? Christians.
@ yamit82:
A truth bigger than a Temple. From own experience I know t to be truth. Do not trust them.
I think Longhorns comments belong in chit chat or even better put in spammer cyberspcae. Except for two they don’t relate to the subject.
You are allowing arabs to steal our land in Israel
@ robin@longhornproject.org:
@ robin@longhornproject.org:
So in Robins world if one does not provide funds to Robins pet project they are not pro Israel. Longhorns and Zionism are now synonymous really?
I have proof, I been asking you and the America Jewish Community to help the Ranches and farmers in Israel that are under attack by jackals, wolves and Arabs for the last 10 years. They have European cattle that don’t fit Israel’s desert environment and to bring Texas Longhorns to help them and I get no response or I get an big No. So If you are really pro Israel prove it and fund the Israel Longhorn Project at http://longhornproject.org@ Bear Klein:
@ Bear Klein:
I have proof, I been asking you and the America Jewish Community to help the Ranches and farmers in Israel that are under attack by jackals, wolves and Arabs for the last 10 years. They have European cattle that don’t fit Israel’s desert environment and to bring Texas Longhorns to help them and I get no response or I get an big No. So If you are really pro Israel proves it and fund the Israel Longhorn Project at http://longhornproject.org
@ robin@longhornproject.org:
Bad mouthing all American Jews in one broad brush is highly inaccurate. Sort of like most broad brush statements about most groups. Many American Jews are very pro Israel.
I am a member of CUFI and have close relations with them and they are upfront what they do with their money for Israel unlike America Jews that fund the New Israel fund that is a con organzation. The Jewish Federation repeatedly telling Israel what to do. Like get rid of the Land of Israel Law is their new mission. Wake up!
Community Alert: Christian Evangelicals Offering Shabbat Retreat for Har Nof Orphans
Posted by Jewish Israel on November 24, 2014 at 7:30pm
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The International Christian Embassy in Jerusalem (ICEJ) , whose core mission is to tell the world that jesus is coming back and to spread that word from Jerusalem, has launched a widely publicized online/email campaign to comfort and support the bereaved families of the Har Nof massacre.
“This very weekend, the ICEJ is sponsoring a ‘Shabbat retreat’ for the 24 children who lost their fathers in that attack. They will stay in guest houses in the Galilee and receive special counseling from experts trained to deal with terror victims. They will also be offered therapeutic activities as well as Bible lessons before re-joining their families early next week.”
ICEJ states that they are “determined to be a source of comfort and healing” for the traumatized families. The Jewish communities in Israel and throughout the Diaspora should know that ICEJ is equally determined to bring the “good news” of jesus to the Jews.
For example, just last month, Jewish IDF soldiers were commanded to march on stage before a Christian crowd at ICEJ’s Feast of the Tabernacles, and were subjected to a public sermon, given by missionary Robert Stearns, about the Jewishness of Jesus. They were told by ICEJ’s David Parsons that the prayers from churches and saints were behind them.
In addition, the Jewish community should know that ICEJ actively promotes the messianic missionary community in Israel.
[Note: The above alert is a joint statement of JewishIsrael and Jews for Judaism East]
@ robin@longhornproject.org:
You don’t know what you are talking about. Do you really believe money is given with no strings or any quid pro quo???
Many America Jews have abandon Israel but still think they can tell Israel what to do. Christians Zionists respect Israel and give money without telling Israel what to do. America Jews are embarrass and ashamed of Israel.
“If you ever forget you’re a Jew, a Gentile will remind you.”
Bernard Malmud