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By Ted Belman

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April 16, 2020 | 7,945 Comments »

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  1. Balfour lost his struggle for Zionism in Britain. This is overlooked.

    Many Irish supported Israel until 1967, for example Nell McCafferty

    Then what happened?

    I do not agree fundamentally with Martin Sherman but his article today on Two Narratives is elucidatory.

    There’s room for logic especially among the youth of either religious background.

    And it’s rarely the main issue except in diehards usually hardened Antisemites.

    That gives time for some to absorb truths of history.

    In history the Irish have much in common with Jews. That’s objectively true.

  2. @Felix who was British. And there were others, The British were a mixed bag. The Irish don’t sound mixed, at all, the Catholics, anyway. Or was there an Irish Lord Balfour?

  3. Sebastien

    Of course Ireland is filled with Antisemitism and we know the poison has been laid down over millennia not just centuries by the Church and Churches

    But Irish also have a hatred of Britain and that is a good thing.

    And Britain has been enemy to the Jews. After all they also destroyed Lord Balfour.

    So political work is not as hopeless as you think.

  4. “Along with the racist BDS organisation the legislators of the Republic of Ireland tried to criminalise trade with Israel .
    Ireland have the most Jew hating Parliament in the world apart from Iran
    They were the only country in the world to send condolences on the death of Hitler and the only country in the world to punish those few Irish who fought for the allies against Hitler
    On their return to Ireland they lost their rights to pensions and were barred from working for Government, Government contractors and suppliers
    Even today Ireland have numerous memorials on public display to Nazi collaborators
    A grassroots campaign is challenging the Irish Jew hatred
    #BROIGAS
    Boycott Republic Of Ireland Goods And Services”

    Just popped up on my news feed from A group called Jewish Activist Network by Peter Baum who writes for Daily Blitz.

  5. Along with the racist BDS organisation the legislators of the Republic of Ireland tried to criminalise trade with Israel .
    Ireland have the most Jew hating Parliament in the world apart from Iran
    They were the only country in the world to send condolences on the death of Hitler and the only country in the world to punish those few Irish who fought for the allies against Hitler
    On their return to Ireland they lost their rights to pensions and were barred from working for Government, Government contractors and suppliers
    Even today Ireland have numerous memorials on public display to Nazi collaborators
    A grassroots campaign is challenging the Irish Jew hatred
    #BROIGAS
    Boycott Republic Of Ireland Goods And Services

    Just popped up on my Facebook news feed from A group called Jewish Activist Network by Peter Baum who writes for Daily Blitz.

  6. They did this because the firm was Jewish. As regards Molloy and Sinn Fein this is total disinformation and it proceeds to breaking the bonds of human society.

    I rather think and like to think there’s massive ignorance involved. This is not personal but systematic.

    Your thoughts are wonderfully valuable.

  7. FELIX-

    Thanks for the info. That Molloy animal is toxic for Jews but great for Jew haters. Full of lies and deception. Is he really so ignorant of the facts or is it the usual, Anti-Semitism on steroids.

    Not a mention of the murdering in public streets of innocent Jewish people old ladies babies, kids, kidnapping and slaughtering. etc.
    There seems ready support for him. Has anyone ever shown him the TRUE facts of those very same incidents, which by the way, he just generalises with no specific cases. A Rabble Rouser, liar hypocrite, gangster

    We had a factory at Glenavy, and because of huge losses I, home to see the family, was sent up to do something. I did “something”.. took me a week… The staff, 24 parasites, all lived in the village, its only industry.
    (my family were all business people never “thinking out of the box” I was the oddball member-with a criminal mind ..ahem).

    I pretended to leave for Dublin…But. at lunchtime I parked around a bend, keeping the laneway entrance in view. They went home for lunch and NEVER returned. They were being paid full time.. Phoned daily from Dublin, one person was left to answer phones. The head hand would always be up fixing a roof etc. and would phone right back. The “keeper” would get down to the village, come back with the Head, and phone Dublin. etc.. A whole, cunning scam, went on for a few years..
    Me being there a whole week drove them crazy.

    My report was eye opening, and we cut down to 4 full time employees working a full day and began to make profit for the first time in 4 years ownership..

    They tried to kill me twice. Loosened the nuts inside my hub caps. I went how to Dublin on weekends at about 60+ mph. I’d hear a rattle. get out shake the tyres. but the car weight…. ..so nothing seemed loose.

    The holes in the rims wore completely through just at a miraculous time. I got to Dublin about 1 am, stopped at the traffic light at top of Clanbrassil St, and the car collapsed. The garage people said they had never seen anything like it.

    They tried it again but I opened the hub caps and fixed them. Got the Garda and there was ructions with Labour Courts etc.

    But we won. No attempted murder charges were made, just that we knew exactly who and what they were. Jew-haters, swindlers, would be murderers.

    Lots of “fun”…..

  8. Edgar

    You asked about Jews in the North. Some people have been exploring this and I will send the details.

    Some Jews in Belfast tried to defend Zionism and Israel against these later lies.

    But that is a hard ask.

    Sinn Fein controls the left here and the following video emerged this morning.

    Molloy is at the top of Sinn Fein. He’s probably speaking in a local county town, like Tyrone

    Not that hard to defeat but needed a party and challenge these issues openly

    https://twitter.com/FrancieMolloy/status/1599878986158395392?t=Vj7ABhXsSz5arMs-WtbrLg&s=19

  9. Edgar

    I came on it in something

    Eoin O’Brien had written. He was a friend of Con when on Paris.

    It involves Con’s second wife and her poems. She was Ethna McCarthy. She died young of throat cancer. Was an influential doctor and free spirit.

    A little information here.

    https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1243673/

  10. FELIX-

    I had NO idea he was so involved. In Dublin, in my time, he took little or no interest that I’d ever heard of in anything. Quiet, kept to himself, as I said< I crept around him softly, because I was closely involved with his very unconventional daughter.

    Thank you for the info.

    Do you know anything about the Belfast Community at all. I knew many of them, some reaching high positions later in life. My dear Mother's first cousin was married to the decades long President of the Community and he was also a decades -long JP,. Barney Hurewitz. They were wonderful people I met them all, several sons and 2 daughters, when we went up there for a daughter's wedding.

    And I had other cousins there with whom I often stayed.

  11. Edgar

    Con Levanthal was as a young man of about 22 on the Zionist Commission to Palestine in 1918, an absolutely historical commission. Picture is in Wikipedia. Weizman in white suit front centre. Con very middle third row back.

  12. Edgar

    I looked him up. If I remember correctly he died in late 70s.

    The fact he helped Beckett and Joyce will mean a life memorable and not wasted.

    He and Heaney therefore would have just missed each other.

    Heaney was his own man, and Kavanagh brought him through his personal reflections back into his own childhood memories. Which is pretty well his essence.

    I do not think the British Christian Zionists of Balfour have been given enough appreciation but then later he (Lord Balfour) was eclipsed and British cratered that road that Jews like Ben Gurion had to tread.

    The idea of Jews living apart is what I follow.

    That seems now not possible in present world setup.

    Basically I would advocate here in Ireland a party based strong program of education on historical matters, as in decade by decade. Educate a cadre in what really happened down the long road.

    Not doctrination just certainty on truth – like a science.

  13. @FELIX-

    I’m sure you can look him up in WIKI. He’s sure to be there somewhere.
    He must have had quite a reputation, unknown to me; certainly astonished me. This quiet, self contained, gentle, white haired man around whom I used to walk rather quietly…..!!!

  14. Edgar

    Con is a man after my own heart. In all ultra repressed societies you always find the opposite. And the old Ireland was very repressed Voila Con. How interesting.

    Although Mother Church ruled hard in those days in Ireland today it’s far worse.

    I am in conflict with every homo sapiens in Ireland today. Need true friends.

    I’m thinking of trying some YouTube videos.

    There’s some very peculiar fraud about Irish politicians.

    And the Palestinians is close to the centre of it

    PS your ex girlfriend was wonderful

  15. @Felix-

    No I didn’t know h, Heard of him of course from the father of my girl friend Prof. Con Leventhal, He was a friend of all the major literary and acting personalities in that golden period, like Lennox Robinson and many others.. He was a close friend of Samuel. Beckett and the very young James Joyce. He had published essays on them.,.

    He retired to Paris , On a trip to Italy I stopped in Paris to visit him.

    He brought me out to a bistro and we had a drink. He was “entertaining ” me. I was a guest. He called over a beautiful flower girl complete with flower tray. They conversed privately for a few minutes. then he turned to me and said, “It’s all arranged”. Asking what he meant, he said that “.you can go home with her for the night, her husband will sleep with friends.” ….She was in ” the business”

    He was VERY “advanced” a typical product of the first half of the 20th century Dublin scene. I was embarrassed.. the father of my old girl friend , (she married my first cousin) my former English and French professor….practically family…I declined with thanks.

    He thought I was a “wimp”… I was damned glad to get away from him.

  16. Edgar

    Fascinating memories

    I get the feeling of cliques and circles within circles

    The obvious note to make here is the deadening fist of the Catholic Church

    I wi find out more about the man I mentioned.

    In the meantime have you any memory of Patrick or Paddy Kavanagh,.a poet?

  17. @Edgar G.

    I agree that we should stop this discussion.

    The gist of the matter is:

    You think that Judaism is defined by religion only (say hello to Smotrich who recently stated the same view).

    I think (and it is NOT my fantasy, as you insist) that a Jew is a Jew is a Jew as long as s/he is born to a Jewish mother regardless of whether this mother was religious or not or whether she converted to another religion, OR that a Jew is someone who was properly converted given that s/he converted like Ruth (joining the people and the religion sincerely).

    If you are right, then 9 out of 10 Diaspora Jews are not Jewish and can be kept out of Israel (the Jewish State, based on its aliyah policy, agrees with you – congratulations!), and most Jews in Israel are not Jewish and the state has really no right to claim that its existence is based on the Bible.

  18. “In 1923, the 27th Jesuit General Congregation reiterated that “The impediment of origin extends to all who are descended from the Jewish race, unless it is clear that their father, grandfather, and great grandfather have belonged to the Catholic Church.” Only in 1946, in the aftermath of the Second World War, did the 29th General Congregation drop the requirement, but it still called for “cautions to be exercised before admitting a candidate about whom there is some doubt as to the character of his hereditary background”.[24]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limpieza_de_sangre

  19. @READER-

    I dodn’t deal with an apostate returning to Judaism as that was not part of the discussion. But, In fact, those who return are accepted in Jewish cemeteries, but on the edges.

    As far as Jewish souls are concerned, and no matter who wrote what book, you are diving into a sort of metaphysical Maelstrom, about which not a single person who ever lived has any knowledge about at all.

    You resort to answering positive facts with mystical nonsense,

    Let’s close this discussion, I don’t want to get into another irrelevant, roundabout. My points differ from your meandering reluctance to ever lose an argument. As a general, you’d have been successful in conducting an evasive retreat..-for ever.

    What has the fact tat conversion has never saved them from persecution to do with our dispute. Even there you are wrong, because it has many times I know this for a personal fact. Never mind.

    *****This discussion puts me in mind of Count D’Erlon marching 20,000 men uselessly between Ligny and Quatre Bras, when if used, would undoubtedly have won Napoleon the battle of Waterloo, if then, it had even eventuated. Against the Prussians it would have completely destroyed the Prussian Army, leaving Wellington without any hope of being saved. Against Quatre bras, Wellington would have been beaten right there, and NO Waterloo could have been fought.******

    A crusing blow to the Movie industry.

  20. {joke}

    “Hello, my name is Catherine. I’d like to adopt a purebred cat from your shelter. Preferably British Short Hair. I don’t like mixed breeds for aesthetic reasons. Do you have one?

    “Yes, we have one British Short Hair but he wants to live with only British people. He doesn’t like mixed breeds for aesthetic reasons.”

    “WHAT?”

    “Provide us with your ancestry documents to proceed with the adoption.”

    Popped up on my FB page from a group called, “Language Nerds.”

    😀

  21. @Edgar G.

    You say, that a Jew, even if converted OUT, Is always a Jew. I say NOT TRUE and give examples.

    He is not a Jew religiously but he is still a Jew by birth and he doesn’t lose his Jewish soul.

    Examples – conversion to Christianity never protected the Jewish converts, even the most true and earnest ones, from persecution by the local Christians (Spain, Germany, etc.)

    The secular Law of Return in Israel bars the Jewish Christians from getting citizenship but the Orthodox do not require them to reconvert back to Judaism, it simply doesn’t count, as far as I know.

    There is a book (I don’t remember the author or the title) by a Jewish woman (an American) who converted to Christianity and after a while returned to Judaism.

    She wrote that her church always proudly designated her as “our Jewish convert” or something like that.

  22. @READEE0

    Well maybe not-

    If you say so. But generally I DO understand.

    his is the central point , is it not. I mean of this particular discussion between us. You say, that a Jew, even if converted OUT, Is always a Jew.

    I say NOT TRUE and give examples.

    nd you don’t dispute my comments on the Sages, because you cannot.

  23. @Edgar G.

    I don’t think you understood what I wrote about my opinion on conversion.

    I think the fact that a meshumad is not buried in a Jewish cemetery is more of a punishment and a deterrent rather than a confirmation that the meshumad is no longer a born Jew.

    Have you ever known anyone who sat shiva for a meshumad? Because there is no evidence, as far as I know, that someone actually did.

    While Talmud contains all sorts of things including stories, and, I think, even recipes, what I described was a genuine discussion.

    In my (unlearned) opinion, a true convert joins the Jewsih people first and then the Jewish religion which the Talmudic discussion shows.

    It is the opposite of what you say you agree with.

    Here is an interesting comment I’ve just found on the topic of conversion:

    xyzggg
    10 hours ago
    Coming from an ultra-orthodox Yeshiva background, I can tell you that conversion to Judaism is not that complicated. All Jewish conversion is based on how Ruth the Moabite converted to Judaism. That is all you really need.
    Ruth, a non-Jewish Moabite, tells her Jewish mother in law Naomi: “Where you go I will go, and where you stay I will stay. Your people will be my people and your God my God. Where you die I will die, and there I will be buried”. That is all you need. All the rest is Rabbinical add-ons that accumulated over the centuries.
    In short then, most Jewish conversions done today, whether by the Ultra-Orthodox to the Reform, are Halachically correct, as long as they contain the essence of what Ruth said to Naomi, and of course verified that it was said sincerely.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-likud-agrees-to-pass-bill-to-end-recognition-of-non-rabbinate-conversions/?utm_campaign=most_popular&utm_source=website&utm_medium=article_end

  24. @READER-

    I beg to differ…A mishummad (apostate) cannot be buried in Jewish Cemetery. He is NO LONGER a Jew. Orthodox families sit “shiva” when a family member leaves Judaism. So he is as dead.

    In Dublin for a Goy to convert to Judaism, he/she would have to live with a very religious family for a few years first. Then undergo examination. I personally knew several converts and all really devout. There were a couple who attended out family shool for years before conversion and were welcomed sincerely.. No nonsense about refusing 3 times with them as I recall. All wonderful people.

    An old wives’ tale. Instituted by a bunch of very old “women” with long beards.
    (NOT the Arnold Bennett novel)

  25. @READER-

    Many of those Talmudic “sages” really talked a lot of rubbish. I have read them extensively and the mind boggles at some of their suggestions, never mind their decisions. And the decisions are NEVER unanimous, ALWAYS, there is a great sage (and his generations of followers), who has a contrary opinion. Maybe several, -all with hundreds of students..

    Look at the legends and the variety of stories about how Rabbi Akiva, , his marriage and his life. I was taught that he learned by climbing onto a roof, and listening at a window, to the Sages,, and one night he was found almost frozen to death.He waas then brought into the College and made a regular student.

    And there were Hillel and Shammai. And the guy who demanded to be taught the Torah whilst standing on one foot….Ho Ho Ho…!!

    What about “Honi the Circle Drawer”,,,,, Supposed to cause rain in a drought situation….Argued with G-D, and insisted that the little rain he made G-D allow, turn into a downpour. He got his wish… That is….according to the story……???? !!!

    He’s also supposed to have fallen asleep for 70 years (the biblical age limit for a man) a regular “Rip Van Winklestein”…….

    (maybe an ancestor of Von Epstein)”.

    Some of the discussinb went on for over a hundred years devolving onto pupils and followers of the Sages.

    For instance this nonsense of turning away three times…why not 7 times the way the bride walks around the groom 7 times. It has to be 7, 6 would doubtless invalidate the marriage….???

    Pure traditional superstitious crap.

    A pity you are NOT a Rabbi…Rabi Reader has a nice sound to it……!!!

    With all that, I agree with your assessment of the ‘conversions”. They often are too “neat” and almost “instant”. even though some of those athletes have been playing in Israel a few years. BUT…..they have not been living religious Jewish lives during that time, but secular ones.

    They are mostly ignorant Goyim who know nothing but backetball and whatever other sports they convert for. I’ve often felt that these “conversions” are kust a formality so thay they can play in competitons where only citizens are accepted. In the case of Israel one needs to be Jewish or Arab.

    I’m sure they regard it just like changing from the Anglican Church to the 4 Square Gospel chapel.

  26. @Peloni, @ David Singer

    Dividing Jerusalem is not an easy thing,” says an Israeli actor, dressed to look like Kerry, in a video produced by the Council of Jewish Communities of Judea and Samaria and the nongovernmental group MyIsrael.
    “We must realize that it is holy to all religions: Jews, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Klingons and Hobbits. But what I am saying is why fight over an old wall, I will build you a brand new wall, close to the beach,” said the mock Kerry.
    It’s the second such video on the secretary of state that the two groups have produced to protest Kerry’s support for a Palestinian state in east Jerusalem and Area C of the West Bank.

    I am reminded of this great satirical video from 2014 which has been scrubbed from Youtube with the announcement that the account holders have violated the Youtube Community Terms of Service 😀 I’ll bet.

    https://www.jpost.com/national-news/settler-spoof-video-has-us-offering-a-modern-western-wall-by-the-beach-340313

  27. @Sebastien Zorn

    This guy [Stoudemire] had an Orthodox conversion!

    I am, obviously, not a rabbi, to say the least, but my impression over the last decade or two has been that most of the Orthodox conversions are not proper and not because they are not “Orthodox” enough.

    I remember reading about the discussion in the Talmud on which conversion to Judaism would be considered proper.

    The consensus (the majority opinion) was that the potential convert must be turned away three times with an explanation that s/he would be joining the people which is hated, etc. (I don’t remember the exact words) and s/he better consider it carefully before making the decision to convert.

    Only if that person comes back after being turned away three times, he is converted and taught the mitzvot.

    The minority opinion (of ONE, as I recall) holds that the potential convert has to accept all the mitzvot, etc. FIRST before his or her conversion.

    It seems to me that for a couple of decades the Orthodox conversions have followed that minority opinion with the potential converts learning things for a very long time, being monitored for observance, etc.

    The thing is, that once someone becomes (or is born) a Jew, it is impossible (according to the Jewish Law) to “get out of it”: suppose, one converted properly and after a while got “disappointed” and decided to become a Catholic – TOO BAD!

    After s/he dies, s/he will be judged as a Jew!

    Anyway, in my opinion, people who convert but still think of themselves as “people of color” first and Jews second, didn’t undergo a proper conversion and are not Jews.

    BTW, after the Moshiach is here, there will be not more conversions to Judaism.

  28. @FELIX-

    Hello Felix, So glad to hear from you. Hope you’ve been well and avoided COVID…;I was a part of an acting group ,The Globe Players, for a couple of years, so I met Beckett. It was run by Jim Fitzgerald whom I immediately disliked. My first experience of someone using very foul language in front of girls. Doaal Donnelly was also with us. i had a scrap with him for the same reason, broke his front tooth. Another member a staunch Catholic sincerely told me I was cursed for ever because “the blood was on descendants of the supposed Jews who condemned Jesus,eternally. Yet he always accepted my offer of a lift home. I was the only one, had my Father’s car.

    Like all the others, I used to get into the local hotels close to the theatre, for after hours booze. I was a baaad young man ..Then. Hilton Edwards came in a few times as well as other well known stage figures. Maybe Beckett was one of them. But I was there but not really a part of the scene. it mostly repelled me. because of their loose ways and disgusting language and morals. It was a phase in my life. SO I mostly just watched and listened.

    Fitzgerald “borrowed” money to travel to London to get married, and flatly refused to pay it back. He conned others the same way. “I never pay anything back”..he laughed at me. But my cousin, a lawyer tracked him down, finally nailing him, and mailed me the cheque when I was already in Canada, years later.

    He made a big name for himself with Televis Eireann. Monica Brophy made it big in stage management in London, always behind the scenes. but brilliant, and hard working. Donnelly made a few films, was in Waterloo, had a few lines. The extent of his “fame”. the others faded away.

    I knew Norman Rodway very well. He did “Waiting for Godot” on screen although primarily a stage guy. We are at Uni together and on the same cricket team for a year. We kept in touch afterwards. A first class fellow. He became very successful, but never reached the heights he deserved.

    ….

  29. @FELIX-

    Gello Felix, So glad to hear from you. Hope you’ve been well and avoided COVIS>I As I was a part of an acting group ,The Globe Players, for a couple of years, I may have. It was run by Jim Fitzgerald whom I immediately disliked. My first experience of someone using very foul language in front of girls. Doanl Donnelly was also with us. i had a scrap with him for the same reason, broke his front tooth. Another member a staunch Catholic sincerely tod me I was cirsed because “the blood was on descendants of the supposed “cruxification”Jews eternally. Yet he always accepted my offer aof a lift home. I was ther only one, had my Father’s car.

    Like all the others, I used to get into the local hotels close to the theatre, for after hours booze. I was a baaad young man ..Then. Hilton Edwards came in a few times as well as other well known stage figures. Maybe Beckett was one of them. But I was there but not really a part of the scene. it mostly repelled me. because of their loose ways and disgusting language and morals. It was a phase in my life. SO I mosrtly just watched and listened.

    Fitzgerald “borrowed” money to travel to London to get married, and flatly refused to pay it back. He conned others the same way. “I never pay anything back”..he laughed at me. But my cousin, a lawyer tracked him down, finally nailing him, and mailed me the cheque when I was already in Canada, years later.

    He made a big name for himself with Televis Eireann. Monica Brophy made it big in stage management in London, always behind the scenes. but brilliant, and hard working. Donnelly made a few films, was in Waterloo, had a few lines. The extent of his “fame”. the others faded away.

    I knew Norman Rodway very well. He did “Waiting for Godot” on screen although primarily a stage guy. We are at Uni together and on the same cricket team for a year. We kept in touch afterwards. A first class fellow. He became very successful, but never reached the heights he deserved.

    ….

  30. @READER-

    About looking for that book, try “Worldcat”. They have everything ever published, so I’m told. I use them myself occasionally and always get the infor.

  31. Edgar enjoy you talking about Dublin. I recently enjoyed Seamus Heaney on Desert Island Discs. He talks so beautifully. One of his picks was a Jack McGowan reciting Becket. I did not know him. Did you know him or even Becket? Those times were special.

  32. Interesting articles by Eunice G. Pollack (she is a PhD who writes books on antisemitism):

    https://www.jns.org/writers/eunice-g-pollack/

    BTW, her book Racializing Antisemitism: Black Militants, Jews, and Israel, 1950-Present written in 2013 is nowhere to be found including on bookfinder.com (there is nothing even that says it is out of print).

  33. Does anyone see anything wrong here? (no hints)

    by WorldTribune Staff / 247 Real News November 28, 2022

    Sam Brinton, a genderfluid drag queen who holds a top position in Team Biden’s Department of Energy, was charged with felony theft after allegedly stealing a woman’s luggage at Minneapolis-St. Paul (MSP) International Airport.

    As Deputy Assistant Secretary for Spent Fuel and Waste Disposition in the Office of Nuclear Energy in the Department of Energy, Brinton oversees America’s nuclear power plants

    https://www.worldtribune.com/team-biden-nuclear-energy-official-charged-with-stealing-womans-luggage/.

    cf. https://youtu.be/uv3iqSbiQwc

  34. Amar’e Stoudemire defends Black Hebrew Israelites amid Kyrie Irving and Kanye West antisemitism controversies

    Nov, 7

    https://www.jta.org/2022/11/07/sports/amare-stoudemire-defends-black-hebrew-israelites-amid-kyrie-irving-and-kanye-west-antisemitism-controversies

    I don’t trust people who convert to Judaism, as a general rule. I’m always waiting for the other shoe to drop, I don’t care what the religion says. By the same token, I have no problem with claiming someone as Jewish who only has a Jewish father and practiced another religion if doing so brings credit on us and strengthens our position. This guy had an Orthodox conversion!

  35. @Professor Edgar G. @Honeybee

    “…they’ll give you some thought… as Irish idioms are used.”

    😀 Natch. But, better make that Texan, considering your audience, don’t you think? 😀

  36. Amended: De Santis appears to be just as pro Israel as Trump was as President. I am an independent so since NY has closed primaries, I switch back and forth. In 2016, I voted in the Republican primary though on bread and butter, “entitlement” issues, I am otherwise a traditional leftwing Democrat which coincidentally is how I was brought up in a house where politics was always far more important than religion. Absent politics, I still consider religion to be just another form of self~help and therefore a strictly private matter, like nutrition, all you fat-shamers out there who would stand between me and my ramen, haters all. 😀

  37. “Ye takes Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes to Mar-A-Lago to meet Donald Trump
    The rapper who has been engulfed in an antisemitism scandal claimed that the former president was “very impressed” with Fuentes.”

    https://www.jns.org/ye-takes-holocaust-denier-nick-fuentes-to-mar-a-lago-to-meet-donald-trump/

    De Santis appears to be just as pro Israel as Trump was as President. I am an independent so since NY has closed primaries, I switch back and forth. In 2016, I voted in the Republican primary though on bread and butter, “entitlement” issues, I am otherwise a traditional leftwing Democrat, which is how I was brought up.

  38. @HONEYBEE-

    You may or may not see humour in comedians who use a Yiddish dialect.
    I do, as I happen to have grown up with many of my elders speaking exactly like that.

    So, I recommend “Levinsky at the Vedding” written and spoken by Julian Rose, who although born in New York and was a successful Vaudevillian, came to Britain in his 40s where he stayed, and had his greatest successes for many years after.. .

    I have the old recording which I learned by heart. I used to entertain my kids as they were growing up. They DEMANDED it. As well as stories \i made up as on the spot.

    I also had to read chapters of “Potash and Perlmutter” to them otherwise they wouldn’t go to sleep.

  39. @HONEYBEE-

    Det’s nais.. IS there tap dancing as well??? Next year don’t forget to send me an invitation. _

    You should look up “The Charladies’ Ball” on youtube, especially the Jimmy O’Dea recording .. He famously played the Mrs. Mulligan character on stage, dressed in female attire.

    It was written by Harry O’Donovan, and Jimmy O’Dea made it famous and a standard right up to this day.. They collaborated in stage and song for nearly 40 years. Pantomimes etc., When I was growing up, the year’s highlight would be the Pantomime, with Jimmy O’dea. Most of the Community would go, and he was close to us.{ The theatres were owned jy Yidden of course}. .Wonderful stuff.

    I was at school with O’Donovan’s son Terry. we were friendly but not close, a private Jewish School no less.

    I just looked all through youtube. SO DISAPPOINTING. There are dozens of really lousy recordings but not one of Jimmy O’Dea. Even one by Theodore Bikel..

    So maybe just look up the lyrics. they’ll give you some thought… as Irish idioms are used.