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By Ted Belman

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April 16, 2020 | 7,784 Comments »

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  1. Israeli NY consul daughter: Columbia U not protecting me from Palestinian group (Pro-Israel Demo Thurs. 4 to 6)
    Pro-Israel advocate Ofir Dayan says she’s worried about her safety after repeated threats and harassment from Students for Justice in Palestine
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/ny-consuls-daughter-columbia-u-not-protecting-me-from-palestinian-group/

    We’ve Had Enough!
    Public · Hosted by Students Supporting Israel at Columbia University – SSI Columbia
    protest against columbia tolerating antisemitic harrassment of Jewish students thursday. Thursday at 4 PM – 6 PM
    2 days from now · 59–81°F Partly Cloudy
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    Columbia University in the City of New York
    Broadway and 116th Street, New York, New York 10027

  2. SEBASTIEN- For you who would appreciate it…A bon mot……

    “A man who blows his own trumpet never gets into a good orchestra”..

  3. early tomorrow under the sukkah another first for our small community. we’ve had a baby naming, a bat mitzvah, a bar mitzvah, a 3 year olds 1st hair cut NOW this time tomorrow a Bris Milah followed by a breakfast seudat mitzvah.
    what will the boy be named? to me he will always be Jonah as he was born during the Neilah service soon after the story of Jonah was read and they both spent time in a similar place.

  4. breads for tashlich
    Occasionally, people ask what kind of breadcrumbs should be thrown. Here are suggestions for breads most appropriate for specific sins and misbehaviors.

    For ordinary sins: White bread
    For complex sins: Multigrain
    For twisted sins: Pretzels
    For sins of indecision: Waffles
    For sins committed in haste: Matzah
    For sins of chutzpah: Fresh bread
    For substance abuse: Stoned wheat
    For use of heavy drugs: Poppy seed
    For committing auto theft: Caraway
    For tasteless sins: Rice cakes
    For ill-temperedness: Sourdough

    For silliness and eccentricity: Nut bread
    For not giving full value: Shortbread
    For excessive irony: Rye bread
    For particularly dark sins: Pumpernickel
    For dressing immodestly: Tarts

    For causing injury to others: Tortes
    For being holier than thou: Bagels

    For dropping in without notice: Popovers
    For overeating: Stuffing
    For raising your voice too often: Challah
    For pride and egotism: Puff pastry

    For sycophancy: Brownies
    For laziness: Any long loaf
    For trashing the environment: Dumplings
    For telling bad jokes/puns: Corn bread

  5. for those who continually confuse borders and boundaries, borders are set in stone, boundaries are moveable. that’s why agreements with Egypt and Jordan state boundaries. does the L of N Ms wording apply to ISRAEL? when did ISRAEL sign? from day 1 the brits violated the mandate, ben gurion violated the mandate by letting non JEWS have both citizen and political rights. the u n violates the manate daily.

  6. @ Edgar G.:

    The rate normally is expressed as 1.7 per childbearing woman, not as a percentage.

    Also, the figures do not make sense. Israeli rates are above replacement rate, in in general, i.e. they should be above 2.1. At 2.1 the population remains stable. Above that there is growth.

    I do not remeber the rate itself, but Israeli women reach repalcement rate, even the secular. The Arab rate is very slightly below, having shown a declining trend over the years.

    I am curious what Ted will find out.

  7. I read another very disturbing thing in the same outlet just now. They change the headlines periodically. This one has Trump announcing that “now Israel will have to pay a very heavy price” (paraphrased). It’s all about moving the embassy to Jerusalem. But a little later he said…”It should have been done years ago”. So what the hell is he going to twist our arm over.

    So, if it should have been done long ago, what’s the big payment Israel should make for it. It is our RIGHT to have out Capital where we want it. And he only moved the embassy (which should have been done years ago) so that he had a lever to hold against Israel to give the Arabs a lot more than they are entitled to…which are only “civil and religious rights” but NO LAND. They also have voting rights which is NOT in the Balfour Declaration or any subsequent Declaration like the British Mandate, The Anglo-American Accord, the UN Charter etc.

    All Israel belongs to the Jewish People alive and yet to be born, and no government has any right at all to give any of it away.

    If that is to be the price then let him put his damned Embassy back where it was. WE KNOW where it should be, which is better than having to irrevocably cut off more land from the minute amount we have.

    Ted was thinking that it might possibly incorporate the “Jordan is Palestine Option”, but this announcement seems to say NO. Of course we really don’t know what Trump eventually WILL do. But his Ambassador and the other crew keep saying that “nobody will be completely satisfied, this is the only way to peace”. I personally think this is a foolish and rubbishy statement.

    If a side is NOT satisfied there will be undying resentment which will build up, and break out into violence, perhaps war, from time to time, and never go away. Always a sore thumb…especially for the barbarians. .The only real solution is utter defeat for one side in which the victor makes the terms, and enforces them strictly. This has always for ever, been the only way that peace has ever happened between two enemies.

    And their enmity has been NOTHING like the inbred, genetic, psychotic, blood-hatred of the Arabs for Jews. Where has there ever been such a hatred that a “normal” person, man or woman, will get up in the morning as he/she has done all his/her life,, and suddenly feel that they have to take a knife and MUST kill a Jew.

    Neither Trump nor his religious Jewish Emissaries have any real idea of this. They’re all to civilised to be able to understand 7th century,barbarians, even if dressed in 21st century clothing..

  8. The idea that population must increase to cover costs and increase the GNP is a Globalist LIE – one of the biggest.
    It’s a Globalist ponzi scheme – they rake off all the excess for themselves no matter what and like junkies always want more.

  9. I don’t know if anyone is interested, but Arutz 7 reports that the Israeli Muslim birth rate increased to 2.5% as against the average Israel Jewish rate of 1.7.%. I suggested some months ago that the spike in Jewish births, (mostly in YESHA and the Haredi folks) might be all very well but we could not rely either on this,or on the declining Muslim rate. I said all it took was for a lunatic Imam to urge each family to have one more child.

    It seems that the reason is that the Israeli Muslims are getting married younger than ever. 38,000 more births this last year.

    And I suppose that the Government will star to enforce the long-standing anti-polygamy laws in about 10 years when the Bedouin population will be topping a million. Trump’s throwaway comment about Israel perhaps having a Muslim Prime Minister, may not be so far-fetched after all….

  10. @ david melech:

    I looked up “cookies” in the computer meaning. There are a variety of ways for all browsers.as to how to get rid of them, mostly as soon as you switch off your computer. There is some sort of automatic deletion that goes into effect.

  11. TED something interesting just happened, i’m now unable to write comments on my tablet a i won’t accept cookies. Accepting cookies is a requirement under e u law but not to my knowledge under any u s can laws.

  12. @ adamdalgliesh:

    I thought of asking Ted about it but then ..Nah, it would be interference. His selections are very good as they are. But THAT thought did come into my mind. I believe you must be the only one who read Kedar upon my mention. I found it overwhelmingly sad, and right in line with what’s unfolding piece by piece. And after all the inhuman suffering the Jewish People have undergone to reach this day.

    You see Adam, my dear late Father remembered as a child his days in Latvia (Russia then) and he was old enough to have an eardrum damaged to try to avoid the “scoop-up” of Jewish kids by the Russian Army. He told us about pogroms, and the way Jews had to live, and hide in pre-prepared shelters. He was 8 years old..It fitted perfectly with what I was reading, as I grew up.

    I recall him telling me that in his grandfather’s time, one of the Bonaparte kings came to live in the palace of the city, which was then named Jaunjelgava, but, being 80% shtetl, the Jewish name was “Naira”. I think it was Louis Bonaparte, after he abdicated from the Dutch throne.

  13. @ Edgar G.: Kedar’s article is extremely informative and a spot-on analysis of Israel’s problems. Wish Ted would reprint it on Israpundit.

  14. In Arutz 7, to read Dr, Mordechai Kedar’s article is actually heartrending. We, certainly I, know that every word he says is true, and we are on a very slippery slope descending two paces for every one we climb up. The same picture of him is always displayed, and I often remark to myself, how lugubrious he seems to be. Well, this present article matches his sad visage, as if he had been practicing his facial expression for this day.

    Sad indeed. Like the doom of an ancient, once noble race, bit by bit.

    In a strange way, it seems to connect with the after part Heading of Martin Sherman’s article “The failing of the Jewish National Will”. although the contents of each is vastly different from one another….

  15. @ Sebastien Zorn:

    Another interesting thing in the article half way down the page is that after the English translation by Nurit, it gives a very complete Hebrew text too. To me it seems much longer than the English, but, my Hebrew being poor I only glanced at it.

  16. @ Sebastien Zorn:

    That’s exactly what comes up if, as I mentioned in my post, you keyed Reland’s name in and looked half way down the page you’d get the Goldreich translation. But with this you also get a picture of the actual book opened at the frontispiece, and showing a picture depicting the times. Good for you, I would never have thought of suggesting that it be placed on Facebook or another public vehicle. I actually keep away from them since my daughter told me a few years ago that she was badly hacked on facebook and it’s very loosely protected. Anyway I figure its for much younger people who know how to manoeuvre through these places..

    That site Think-Israel seems full of very good stuff for nationalists like myself. I had a brief look at it and was almost overwhelmed at the enormous amount available. It has EVERYTHING to do with Israel, and the Arab problem, and what’s true and what’s false …

    I saw a name there \i hadn’t seen for some time..Mitchell Bard.

  17. @ Buzz of the Orient:

    I don’t know of this particular article but Mark Twain’s 1869 comments are extremely well known and often printed in full detail in very many articles. It was in his book “innocents Abroad”.

    An interesting thing occurred recently….

    The Utrecht University held the 400th anniversary of his death dedicating the whole month of Feb this year. to talks, lectures, and all aspects of Adriaan Reland’s life and works. I was in lengthy contact with several of the professors there who were experts on Reland. It was a very important occasion for the University..

    They told me that although he never got as far as the Holy Land, as was his ultimate intention, because of the eventually fatal illness of his father, (but perhaps he’d got as far as Constantinople,)he employed only the most reliable persons available and his data were always excellent.. Their reports state that there were NO Arabs in Palestine at that time. The vast majority of the small population was Jews, about 80% the rest were made up of Christians, Samaritans and some Druze. The researchers found only one Arab family of 50 out of 120 people in Nablus called the Natsha family. There were a few wandering Bedouin nomads as well.

    The researchers noted down all the particulars of approx 2500 towns and villages, all of which were mentioned in the Mishna.and the Torah. They included geographical, topographical, population numbers by religions, including their occupations. A very complete accounting.

    The book he wrote about it is called:

    “Palaestina ex Monumentis Veteribus Illustrata, A detailed geographical survey of Palestine, written in Latin,published by Willem Broedelet, Utrecht 1714,” Haifa Univ. has a copy in it’s Library.
    *******************************************************************************************************************
    If you type in Adrian Reland, about half way down the screen you’ll come across an item on the book called
    “A Tour and Census of Palestine in the year 1695: No sign of Arabian names or “Palestinians”.

    It’s a short synopsis of the book, and written in a sort of newsy style by Avi Goldreich and translated from Hebrew by Nurit Greenger. Goldreich, says that Reland wrote that there were NO Arab names on any of the places, they were all from the Hebrew, none was originally Arabic.

    I have a series of correspondence with Nurit also. She particularly noted that Reland always used the most impeccable sources, a detail also pointed out by the Professors of Utrecht University in our correspondence.

    You might find this interesting although not what you are asking about.

  18. HELP!

    I am seeking a link to an article I recall reading that quoted journalists and others such as Mark Twain who indicated that Israel was previously a desolate swampy land hardly populated, and that the Arabs did not start to arrive in numbers until Jews started to arrive and develop the land and populate it – that the great number of Arabs are descended from those who had then come from the surrounding lands such as Jordan, Egypt, Syria, etc.

  19. @ Buzz of the Orient:
    I just read that they are using birds and preparing drones, now. I think that the most effective deterrent, in the past, has been to quietly start assassinating Hamas’s top and operational leaders. They don’t want to be martyrs. Doing it quietly would avoid the public relations and legal hassles, considering that it would also make it possible to isolate them in bunkers since their families could be taken out with them if they went near them. It’s worked in the past. It would make them sue for peace and enforce it at their end since they would personally wind up paying for any loose cannons among their flock. I remember reading that Israel agreed to stop doing this at one point. This policy should be resumed if it hasn’t already begun to be. It shouldn’t be a tit-for-tat, counting coup thing either. It should be all-out until the other side cries, “uncle,” so to speak. But, with complete “plausible deniability” to get all “Mission Impossible” about it.

  20. TED—What happened to the facility icons which used to be in a line, with each article, so that one could forward the article to a friend.

    It would be appreciated if returned. Unless it’s caused by a complication with your tech system.

    Also, what has eventuated regarding the OLD PHOTOS of PALESTINE I mentioned to you and which you said that you had applied for permission to the Copyright holders. I recall the photos showed that they could be obtained on request, with no problems. You told me months ago that you had written them.
    Yhey are always topical, but….the sooner the better, with what’s going on.

    Thank You.

  21. What the hell kind of ceasefire is it that doesn’t include stopping the terrorist kites and balloons from setting fires to Israel’s crops and forests?

  22. @ Bear Klein:
    So the article lied. Wow. I didn’t expect that. Splash. You are so right. I stand corrected. Fake news in action. Thank you for being on your toes.

  23. @ Sebastien Zorn:
    I just read this article which shows Shaked is actually fighting polygamy. An entire different outlook!

    The Ministerial Committee against Polygamy, headed by Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked (Habayit Hayehudi), on Monday decided to “toughen enforcement in the fight against polygamy.” Shaked herself issued a statement saying, “Polygamy is a bad, immoral, and most offensive phenomenon to women everywhere and to children. Beyond that, there are elements in the Bedouin communities who have exploited Israel’s soft touch on polygamy and have brought in women from the Palestinian Authority and Jordan.”

    “The State of Israel has abandoned the issue for the last 70 years, now we are committed to fighting this phenomenon,” Shaked declared, calling for “a discourse on women’s honor, status, independence and promotion.”

    Read more here http://www.jewishpress.com/news/israel/bedouin/civil-rights-group-shakeds-polygamy-recommendations-reward-criminals/2018/07/10/

    I would say we all should be careful in reading articles about people we trust based on past experience that is reflecting contrary points.

  24. @ Sebastien Zorn:

    I’ve been complaining about this for years, and pointing out that from about 8500 who were caught in the Negev when Israel declared Independence, they are now well over 400,000, and spread all over israel, especially in the Negev, and the Galil. I’m tired talking about the lazy complaisant yawn of successive Jewish Govts over the many years sitting supinely and watching huge enemy strides right under their noses without lifting a damned finger to stop it.

    What are they up to, what are their plans, what outcomes do they expect and aim for…… Or have they any at all. ???

  25. I was just thinking, having seen that another massive fire has been lit near an Israeli town from kites flown from Gaza, that whatever retaliation the IDF takes is either ineffective, or to be effective, would be damned by the rest of the world as being disproportionate. So why not fight fire with fire – isn’t that effective in fighting forest fires? Would that not be proportionate? Just start dropping NAPALM on the Gazan forests and crops – see how that works. Every time they light an Israeli forest fire or crop fire, set one of theirs on fire. That should start something happening.

    Just a suggestion.

    Buzz of the Orient (an expat Canadian Jew living in China for the past 12 years)

  26. With 2 more small earthquakes in the north now’s the time for a man made earthquake under the T. M bring down the dome. Disallow repair and building materials. Treat this as a sign from the big guy to rebuild his holy house.
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  27. It’s hot not been below 80f for weeks. The sea is as warm as English beer, the beach babes are baywatch. No jelly fish this year yet. Haifa earthquake today caused multi orgasms. A drop of rain and the smell of sod will be refreshing. On this entebbe day all is good.

  28. By the time you read this July 4th it will be entebbe day. So hands off yor ???? Put on yur socks and get out and cilibrate. Great day overshadows all else.

  29. Maybe Ted has the answer to this ‘when will renovations be completed on the original Knesset building’ so your not confused as most Israelis the address is hamelech George. It’s now been 3 years since work started. A new mall from scratch can go from raw land to occupation 12 months.