By Ted Belman
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Everyone will be happier.
@ bernard ross:
@ dweller:
Is a “messiah” God’s “son”, or even “God Himself in the flesh”?
Does God even have a “son”?
“Well, this is a question of semantics (“semantics” is the branch of linguistics that deals with the meanings of words). Be very clear: when christians refer to God’s “son”, they mean a “begotten son”… this phrase is taken from one of their favourite verses in the new testament, which talks about God “giving” His “only begotten son” (John 3:16). The phrase “begotten son” means a biological son, because “begetting” refers to the physical process of impregnation that leads to biological reproduction.
But God is not a biological entity, and He does not reproduce Himself biologically” 😉 😛
dweller says it does!!!!!!!!! 🙂
I think this was arranged at the cease fire between Israel, Egypt and PA
dweller Said:
He called him Messiah because he gave every indication that he had the potential to be him, until he failed to complete the full prophetic qualifications and was killed.
That proved he wasn’t nor could be the Messiah and no Jews since has ever claimed such a title for the great but failed Jewish leader. Besides I said “in the Tanach” not post biblical history.
Having trouble in reading comprehension? Squirming in the pile of shit you have built?
There is no basis in Jewish scripture for your BS false messiah , your pagan definitions and beliefs do not cut butter here. Peddle your crap to the ignorant and stupid.
No sale no dice on to your MO and BS. Have always been.
I have always been right about you even before you came out of your dark closet. 🙂
dweller Said:
bernard ross Said:
you need to re attend sunday school
Bernard Ross Said:
DUH????really, did I say they hijacked it today from your friends? DUH?????
Plain and simple thats what they did, you are pathetic to try and obfuscate what is well known. That old testament, duh, is almost the same as the Hebrew bible, barring some convenient revisions.
Are you saying that you did not know this, did you think your yeshu invented the hebrew bible or the christians invented it from scratch?
The Christianity Cult and its Deceptions
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@ yamit82:
LSHMSFOAIDMT.
Spare me the quiz show.
So what?
When Rebbe Akiba enthusiastically declared Bar Kockhba to be the Messiah, he pointed at him and said of him, Zeh haMelech haMoshiach — “This is The King The Messiah.”
Pick the nits out of your butt; just spare me this diddly shit.
@ yamit82:
good one
@ yamit82:
Denial (and challenge) was all that was called for. He was clearly blowing smoke, as he’s done before.
If you were honest (but of course, that was out of the question from the beginning), you would have insisted that he provide support for his claims.
But because this time you were both in the same cheering section, you didn’t.
No surprises from him.
And none from you either.
dweller Said:
Apparently you have not read it either.
How many times is Messiah mentioned in the Tanach???? Answer 38 times
How many times does the Tanach mention THE MESSIAH
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dweller Said:
you tried to make it appear that if a jew wrote about the NT that you could call it a Jewish source and lend it credence, trying to make the NT Jewish because YOU beleive in it and YOU beleive that the G_D of israel unionized with a woman and the progeny was a Jewish messiah…
I wrote”attestaton and support” and you wrote “jewish sources” in its place. I long ago stopped using Jewish sources when I saw your slimy trick, but you keep pretending I am saying Jewish sources.
stop your pauline deceit, the lying which you call “marketing”
as usual you are a slimy deceiver,
but this is the plain truth that you just avoided:dweller Said:
dweller Said:
😛 😛 😛 😛
you think lots of ludicrous and ridiculous things which have not a shred of fact, like you god mating women and popping out jewish messiahs.
dweller Said:
not a misrepresentation but a logical inference from what you stated which was that your god had a union with a woman and their progeny was a jewish messiah. You never described the process so I make the most logical inference similar to the same unions that pagan gods had with human women…. although you said that you progeny of the god and woman had no godlike qualities, which I thought to be suspect as most gods and women union produced half gods. Perhaps you wanted me to imbue the act with the mystical qualities to which you refer but I see no reason to make those assumptions. Your twisted explanations make no sense and you should read some pagan myths to see how they do it to be more logical.
bernard ross Said:
FIFY, you leave out the relevant parts
dweller Said:
You can’t make a case from that; not even a thin one.
just did and apparently it flew right over your head. you assert he was sent on a special mission by a god and then for 2000 years all his purported followers misinterpreted him. 😛 😛
some god, some special mission, sounds like a failure if everyone got him wrong….. perhaps he should have attended a communications course first?
bernard ross Said:
did you forget his name and special mission already? Sound like that alsheimers coming back.
Bernard Ross Said:
and yet, even if I never read it I still got it right: NO JEWISH MESSIAH THERE! 😛 😛 😛
Lets call for another opinion on your (LOL) Jewish messiah…….
yoo hoo, Yamit…………………….
@ bernard ross:
I daresay, I know more Christians than YOU know both Christians AND Jews combined. And the Xtns I know have never had anything to do with Replacement Theology.
Nor have they ever ‘hijacked’ anybody or anything. YOU have a lot more in common with the hijackers than did any Christian I ever knew.
There is no connection between Replacement Theology and what I said, and you are a lowlife scumbag liar. I have NEVER endorsed Replacement Theology, here or anywhere else.
Moreover, if I hadn’t personally USED the term, Supersessionism, and defined it on this blogsite some years ago, an ignorant, imbecilic dolt like yourself wouldn’t’ve even known what it was about, putz.
@ bernard ross:
QTC: as usual, a most relevant and exquisitely APT analogy.
Anybody can CLAIM to be a follower of Jesus (or characterize somebody else that way) Without a means of determining if they are or are not, your ‘definitions’ are useless; indeed, worse than useless, as they can easily mislead (which is, of course, what you mean to do).
Some of us do.
I know lots of Christians who never hijacked a hobby horse. Get a life.
That’s bullshit from a bullshitter.
No neglect. He was both diligent and explicit about it.
Not a ‘need.’ Rather, simple observation and sober reasoning.
Dunno what that’s about. You sound much more like socialist than I.
But it IS the truth. Wouldn’t be right to NOT tell it.
@ Anne:
@ bernard ross:
Lewis Black – The Old Testament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGrlWOhtj3g
@ bernard ross:
No dementia on this end. That would mean I’d forgotten something — but I’ve forgotten nothing.
It’s far simpler than that.
I just don’t believe you and never did; I think you’re bullshitting when you say you’re ‘disinterested’ in reading NT. I say you’re too frightened to read it; that’s all. And that speaks, as I said, “MORE than volumes.”
No. That’s a deliberate misrepresentation of what I said. We all know that YOU know that, because I’ve corrected you in this matter a dozen times or more. But then, you’ve more than established yourself to be a lying sack of slime.
You can’t make a case from that; not even a thin one. The argument from absence cannot in its nature be conclusive.
What ‘god’ would that be?
Having never read the Hebrew bible, YOU wouldn’t know one way or another. Told you before: You’re a 24-karat fake.
@ yamit82:
What about them?
How so?
@ bernard ross:
I don’t, smartass; twisting & distorting is strictly your game, and everybody knows it.
However, YOU appear to have concluded that I hadn’t noticed when you changed your term, “Jewish sources,” to “Jewish attestation or support” after I’d asked you a dozen times (unsuccessfully) for your definition of the term as you use it.
You can change your language as much as you damned-well please, but if you keep using it, I want a definition of it as you use it.
bernard ross Said:
😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 Hmmmmmmm
dweller Said:
Examples of christian morality
Luke 19:11-27New International Version (NIV)
The Parable of the Ten Minas
11 While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once. 12 He said: “A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king and then to return. 13 So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas.[a] ‘Put this money to work,’ he said, ‘until I come back.’
14 “But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, ‘We don’t want this man to be our king.’
15 “He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it.
16 “The first one came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned ten more.’
17 “‘Well done, my good servant!’ his master replied. ‘Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.’
18 “The second came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned five more.’
19 “His master answered, ‘You take charge of five cities.’
20 “Then another servant came and said, ‘Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth. 21 I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.’
22 “His master replied, ‘I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? 23 Why then didn’t you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?’
24 “Then he said to those standing by, ‘Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.’
25 “‘Sir,’ they said, ‘he already has ten!’
1 Timothy 2:11-15New International Version (NIV)
11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women[c] will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety
Sexist misogamy
Autocratic Megalomaniac, a sick piece of crap just like you!!! That is your F@@king Messiah??????????
dweller Said:
DUH?????? perhaps thats because its baloney.
@ dweller:
All you have done here is to deny not refute. You are squirming like like a reptile when it’s head is caught and held inert.
dweller Said:
thats not what the billions said, they said they were christians and followers of jesus…. but you a self professed Jew is telling them they are not. Billions, count them. 😛
dweller Said:
I think that he performed the sting on you….. he decided not to send you the memo, to leave you out of the loop…….
he thought it would be more amusing to confuse you…..
he did not think dweller was important enough to send the memo…
you got the special mission mixed up……..
he knew you were arrogant and would speak on his behalf so instead he sent……….
could it be…..?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Qfbrc1jdo
bernard ross Said:
http://www.rosenblit.com/Same_God.htm
“It stands to reason that the Teaching that God gave to His Chosen People is both complete and final. As a result, our Sages’ understanding of God is based exclusively on His Words and Actions, as related in its pages alone. If we were to accept that the God of Israel subsequently bestowed upon the Gentile nations Revelation concerning His Nature, His Message and His Expectations, as expressed through the Christian New Testament and/or the Islamic Koran, each of which seek to annul, modify and add neologisms to the passages of the Hebrew Bible, then we would be transgressing yet another Commandment of the Torah. For, as the God of History, in anticipation of this Day, long ago warned His people:”
“And just to reveal a bit of the Future to our people, God immediately added to the preceding Admonishment this specific Prophetic Warning:”
“And just so that doubt should not creep into our souls about God’s Faithfulness to His own Word, the Prophet Samuel reminds us that:”
“Since Hebrew Scripture warns us that the nations’ Scriptures, even if otherwise attractive and compelling, are nevertheless False, we are certainly required to treat the deities described in their Scriptures as False, and we are most certainly prohibited from intellectually merging or identifying their deities with the God of Israel.”
“Furthermore, Hebrew Scripture not only warns the Jewish people against merging or identifying the false gods of others with the God of Israel, but it also sends the very same warning to the Gentile nations; for, the Prophet Isaiah says to them:”
dweller Said:
maybe he hypnotized all his followers from the stratosphere, that no less beleivable than a god unionizing with a woman and popping out a jewish messiah?
dweller Said:
perhaps that could be so for a few incidents but billions of people over 2000 years getting you nitzri wrong? Sounds fishy to me and then why would your explanation make more sense than that the billions were actually following his teachings? Perhaps not what they appeared to say but rather a demonstration of the value of the fruits of libeling and bearing false witness to the notion that the G_D of israel had a union with a woman and the progeny was the Jewish messiah.
strange that your god sent your nitri on a special mission and that mission resulted in those purporting to follow his teachings persecuting the Jews for 2000 years….You say they were not following his teachings but then is that what your god intended and foresaw, to send him on a mission whereby billions supposedly acted contrary to his teachings over a 2000 year period?
perhaps a better explanation of his special mission is that you got his identity wrong? Certainly if he were a different character like you described it would start to make sense that billions of his followers did the opposite of what he taught.
could it be….? (just a thought)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Qfbrc1jdo
@ bernard ross:
Jesus never had billions of followers. I seriously doubt that he has ever had as many as a couple hundred thousand (total) in all the time that’s passed since he walked the earth. And he clearly didn’t expect there to BE very many:
Mt 7:13 “Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad the way, that leads to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”
“Show the world”? — The world, for the most part, never knew of the sting. You can count on your fingers the numbers even of present-day, self-professed Christians who have any idea of what I just said.
Only if you can show a direct correlation between his teachings & Jewish persecution. And you can’t do that without first READING those teachings. Short of that, you remain a clown, holding forth in matters which only showcase your ignorance.
Begging the question again, I see. You’ve shown no causal relation. All you’ve shown is just how terribly tiresome inveterate cranks like yourself can be.
Anne Said:
Anne Said:
and yet the jewish bible does not mention jesus and Jews do not subscribe to nor accept as fact the NT. True, the christian version of the jewish bible appears to point to him for christians but the Jews have interpreted it differently and find that Jesus did not fulfill the main points of Messiah prophecy.
Anne Said:
this is why i asked you which bible you were using as it is my understanding that there is no jewish attestation or support for the NT as factual.
Anne Said:
I do not know what you mean by this but I assume you relate it to the jews not accepting Jesus as THEIR messiah. Christians have a habit of telling Jews what their Jewish bible says and means but perhaps it is the reverse which is true.
Replacement theology of Christianity might be in error as I do not see the christians,replacement Jews, being ingathered at this time into Israel which has not bloomed in 2000 years but now blooms for the actual Jews as opposed to their replacements.
Is Israel under judgement right now or is it the christian and muslim worlds that are under Judgement? Israel sits in the eye of the storm of chaos while their enemies consume each other. With each BDS church libel of Israel and the Jews a christian head is chopped off by the muslims that the BDS christians support. esau incites Ishmael to murder Jacob but instead ishmael is chopping off esau’s heads and gobbling up esau from within his own home like termites. meanwhile the barbarians are again at the gate howling to get in from the east.
the G_D of Israel did not ingather the jews because the Jews are righteous but to sanctify His name to the world through the Jews. Ask yamit 🙂
Those that incite and support Ishmael to murder jacob appear to be getting what they sought to visit upon the Jews.
the jews are being given advanced warning to get out in order to avoid the coming decades of civil strife and war between Ishmael and esau.
Was that the answer you were looking for when you asked your question?
@ bernard ross:
No coincidence. No decision to behave contrarily either.
They didn’t give a rusty screw about his teachings; maybe didn’t even know what they consisted of. Most of them couldn’t even read, so all they knew was what they were told, often by those whose primary concern was keeping them in line.
What they DID care about was the cachet associated with his name, and used it as cover for their own foulness, pathology & degeneracy. It stands to reason that the worst of men would seek the loftiest of shelters or covers for what they are
— you know, kind of, like the way YOU make your ’cause’ the State of Israel & the Jewish people as cover for the malevolence and envy your ego clings to the way a kid clings to his security blanket.
If that were the case, then they wouldn’t have been persecutors any more than YoursTruly was.
bernard ross Said:
Hijacking and replacement of the Jews with the christians.
The christians hijack the Jews theology and replace the Jews with themselves in the Jews own theology…….
this is why dweller says it belongs to the world and NOT the Jews. Such a theft and replacement just would not look right to moral folks.
Yamit Said:
as usual an irrelevant and absurd analogy.bernard ross Said:
remember, I posted 3 dictionary definitions defining a christian as a follower of Jesus plus everyone knows that the NT?gospel is the christian bible, the Jews neither accept its assertions of facts nor follows its doctrines.
dweller Said:
Pure rubbish,the Jews dont accept the NT and the christians hijacked the Hebrew bible to use as their foundation for their religion. Hijackers and thieves have a tendency to deny their crimes you merely come here with the narrative of the hijackers; similar to the pals saying the Jews stole their land.
yamit82 Said:
pure and simple, cut and dry….. the G_D of Israel is unlikely to be an “indian giver” as you tout….. but then we should not be surprised as you also tout that the same G_D had a union with a woman and the progeny was the Jewish messiah. Curious that he neglected to inform the jews of that “fact”.
however, I understand you have this need, like christianity, to say it belonged to everyone, just like a socialist. After all, it wouldnt look right to tell the truth.
dweller Said:
what a coincidence that billions of his followers consistently beleived that when they serially libeled, swindled, tortured and slaughtered Jews over a 2000 year period. For someone on a special mission it is odd that he seemed unable to communicate it to billions over 2000 years. You would have thought that he who sent him would not have made that error.
bernard ross Said:
dweller Said:
I have already told you over and over, you appear to have alzeheimers:
bernard ross Said:
I am not interested in that fairy tale… I have enough information to judge it a fairy tale as soon as you told me that it says, and you beleive that your god mated with a woman and their progeny was the Jewish Messiah. No need to know more if it is purporting to be factual and if it purports to just be a fairy tale I was highly unimpressed by your examples of the “brilliant sayings” of the mythical protagonist. I already told you that the talking lion of the Chronicles of Narnia sounds more interesting. I have lots of fairy tales I have not read.
bernard ross Said:
@ Justin:
Your claim is not even so much as remotely established.
Nor could you (nor anybody else alive today) be ABLE to know that to be true, inasmuch as the Judaism of his day was not the rabbinical Judaism of the common era but the Temple Judaism of the PRIOR era — and much of that went up in smoke with the Temple itself 40 years after his passing from the scene.
This is a gratuitous assertion which is neither here nor there. There is scant evidence for the historicity of most of the events & persons set forth in ANY of the scriptures. Yet only he and his life are subjected to these endless assaults.
Produce the purportedly contrary evidence. Let’s see it, here, in black-&-white.
It’s not ‘hateful’; those who pursue it genuinely believe they are merely executing the command of their Master. It is true that this doesn’t keep it from being experienced with great anguish. But it takes more than the discomfort of the evangelized to make the action of evangelization ‘hateful.’
It may well be ignorant, OTOH, because there is textual evidence that Jeshua haNitzri did not actually wish that Jews be evangelized (as he did, the gentiles) after his death & resurrection. During his ministry, yes; not thereafter, however.
The ignorance case for desisting is a lot stronger than the ‘hatefulness’ one, in my OWN, anything-but-humble opinion — but since the former relies on Christ’s words as recorded in the gospel, it is not one to which contemporary Jews are likely to take recourse, as they reject the NT flat-out.
bernard ross Said:
could it be? (still waiting for your reply)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Qfbrc1jdo
bernard ross Said:
@ yamit82:
No more so than your children become your property by virtue of their having been ‘given’ to you.
It is nothing of the kind, on either score.
HE, on the other hand, takes a differing view.
You know I cannot access videos. But I have had an intimate acquaintanceship with the Aleynu for well over six (6) decades — and if that’s what this video is about, there is nothing in there (repeat: NOTHING) which removes me from any such covenant.
@ mrg3105:
This is empty rhetoric. If you can’t point to existing case law, you’re just blowing smoke. I doubt you could make such a case even in Israeli courts, certainly not CIVIL courts.
In some places, the Torah (viz., the Pentateuch, specifically) does take that form. But that is not consistently the case therein.
And much of the REST of Tanach certainly does not take that form.
Yet even if ALL of Tanach took that form, that still would be insufficient to sustain your claim of an exclusive property interest.
Adding the adverb, “definitely,” to your assertion does not render it any more so than omitting it makes it less so. It may give you comfort to use it, but I see no case here.
As ‘property’ goes, it is God’s alone.
@ yamit82:
The clarity of the text is quite immaterial. If you have nothing to say about one or another text in relation to some point, then you have NO point.
Without comment or argument from you on your exhibit, my only reply is, “So?” or “What about it?”
Not at all my problem unless I accept it thus. I don’t.
Good. Let them. My reply remains, “So?”
Fine. Without comment from you, my reply remains, “So?”
Translation: You aren’t serious about the truth.
Truth be told? — you do (but don’t let word get out).
No such thing as a ‘textual position.’
One doesn’t argue with a text. One argues with another arguer. If you don’t understand this, I can’t help it.
You’re simply lazy.
@ yamit82:
My reply: What ‘immorality’ is that?
dweller, no, in any court of law, not even a Jewish one, Torah would be recognised as property of the People Israel.
Torah is a document. It is addressed to the People Israel, and witnessed by two members of these People. It has been copied by members of People Israel, and no one else.
It is definitely our cultural property.
Xtians just got so used to using stolen property they thinks its theirs!
But of course they ‘threw away the keys” 🙂 Its not like the People who own Torah were ever going to come back for it, right?
@ dweller:
Pauline and the text makes it clear what he thought and wanted to convey.
My comment:
dweller Said:
Of course I can, the Texts quoted are clear unambiguous and explained as good or better then I can in the clips I supplied. If you can’t respond then it’s your problem but everyone else reading these comments and dialogues can.
You either find a way to respond to each and each quotation I made or not it’s up to you. I will not play by your rules.
I will leave up to any other reader to decide for themselves!!1 You ? Who gives a shit what you say??
The texts say it clear and for all to see read and understand that our position is textual based and well founded while yours is always apologetics and interpolation so far from the intention of the written texts as to make your effort obscene, inane and mostly a pathetic exercise .
@ dweller:
My comment to you was spammed.
dweller Said:
If they were given and received then they belong to the receiver. Text does not say they were loaned out or pawned.
They belong to the contractual 2nd party. If the giver wanted to make them available to everyone he would have said so and or given them out to everyone.
All direct conversations in the texts is beyween the giver and receivers and when historical references are made it always refers to the Jews and no one else….There are no morals or ethical behaviors within the Jewish scripture that is not included or necessary in the laws given to Noah.
All Gemtiles observing the 7 noahide laws according to G-d are righteous and will be afforded an afterlife in some form of heaven. Jews never except one time said a non Jew needed to be a Jew in order to be considered righteous.
The 7 Noachide Laws
Your current screed is a rejection of both Jewish and Noahide precepts and are an abomination to the creator according to Jewish scripture and Jewish traditional beliefs.
This is what Jews believe!!! That alone puts you out of our covenant with the G-d of Israel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-irAG3q8TGU
Anne Said:
Since I get these in my inbox all the time now I feel compelled to respond. I was raised Catholic and have no Jewish ancestry aside from possibly my grandfather whose family was from Alsace. And I’m an agnostic now. But seriously, stop. You are not convincing anyone. The history of “Christian evangelism” towards Jews is wrought with trouble. 1492 wasn’t just the year of Columbus. Read Martin Luther, the original evangelical, and determine if that’s really a legacy with which you want to be associated. There is scant evidence for a historical Jesus and that which exists indicates heavily contradicts the “New Testament” and modern Christian theology. Jewish rejection of Jesus the “Messiah” has historically been the pretext for Christian anti-Semitism (see Martin Luther, Fred Phelps, Mel Gibson, etc). Jesus contradicts the Torah in many instances and he rejected all of Judaism if he existed. So evangelizing is at best ignorant and at worst hateful in my opinion.
@ bernard ross:
If that’s what that video says, then IT has no more of a case than you do.
@ bernard ross:
I don’t watch what I cannot watch; it’s that simple. There are few opportunities for me to watch videos; nothing new about that. If I get the opportunity to open a video, and to do so in a venue where I can use sound, I do so, if the video is brief.
Of the ones I’ve seen, however, they have yet to disprove the gospels. Pointing up interior discrepancies or differences between gospels does not necessarily disprove the entire document. I noticed evidences of tampering several decades before I ever came across this blogsite. Those are compilation issues, not writing issues, however.
Nor does speculation over how history could’ve been back-dated or concocted or any of the rest of that constitute evidence of the gospels’ falsity. It’s not even circumstantial evidence.
If you understand it and you find it substantive, you should have no problem summarizing it.
Yeah. It says I can’t watch them. I have no choice.
The fact that you DO have the opportunity to read the gospels and DON’T, however, speaks far MORE than “volumes.”
@ bernard ross:
So then it is not true to say, as you did, that you are ‘suspicious.’
Suspicion plays no part in your considerations.
You have confirmed what I said above.
I am entirely at rest, because I know enough about the person you refer to, to know that the Jew killers were not his followers.
But then, it’s possible for me to know that because I’ve read what he actually SAID; I didn’t get the story, third hand, from a gaggle of imbeciles with an axe to grind.
@ yamit82:
What ‘immorality’? You can’t make a case by merely quoting w/o comment.
And you haven’t made a case here.
@ yamit82:
@ yamit82:
What about them?
If all your posts do is quote scripture, you have nothing to say about it.
@ yamit82:
So?
And what else is new?
Neither of your above two remarks contradicts what I’ve said.
No. The world was given the Tanach THRU the Jews.
It’s nobody’s ‘property’ except that of the Giver.
You don’t speak for Jewish belief OR Jewish tradition. You speak for yourself. Period. Full stop.
But I NEVER play the numbers game; that’s your trip, not mine.
The only Jew who would EVER be found playing the numbers game is the one who has forgotten what it was like to be a Jew — or who is trying very hard to forget.
Every true Jew knows that truth is self-existent and is not dependent on who believes or disbelieves it.
This was supposed to be news?
‘My’ christianity? — what’s that?
As for Islam being closer to Judaism than is what I believe, I have no doubt whatsoever that Islam is a helluva lot closer to YOUR brand of ‘Judaism’ than is what I believe; that’s a lead pipe cinch.
@ Anne:
Anne – do you think I’m stupid? You don’t even know me. I have heard all this before – a million times over!
I take great offense to this statement. The so called judgement of Israel has nothing to do with G-d. It is man! Jesus had nothing to do with Christianity – It was Paul.
We have been under persecution by the church for the past 2000 years!!
If you know your bible then you should know revelation. In revelation it states that the church will be judged first – so please leave us alone. I can guarantee you that many Jews have studied the NT – inside out – if there was any chance that your claim was true we are smart enough to own up to it. The Scriptures do not support your claim. You have no idea the hell I have been put through by Christians.
Our Messiah will be here – but it won’t be Jesus coming back. This antichrist that you talk about – scary stuff. I have seen it in Christians.
@ Anne:
You post was in spam. I don’t know why. So I released it.