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By Ted Belman

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April 16, 2020 | 8,429 Comments »

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  1. And he has been given a platform too by the editors on this site

    As have you. “Freedom of speech for me but not for thee, eh?” Reminds me of the unofficial slogan of nearly every leftist I’ve ever met, “What’s mine is mine and what’s yours is mine.”

    Or the punchline about the Hungarian peasant meaning told about about he benefits of socialism during the transition period just after the war: “But, I have two pigs!” 😀

    “The left has run out of fascism bullets.”
    – John Stewart

  2. Reader

    If the Ukrainians and the Russians still have any brains left, they should negotiate with each other and leave the US out of it.

    End quote

    Russia has always been prepared to negotiate on the basis of aims of the SMO

  3. @Felix

    Adam has shown continuously that he is on the side of the neofascists in Ukraine

    And he has been given a platform too by the editors on this site but should be asked is he a neofascist because he is certainly supporting a neofascist in Ukraine

    And he has been given a platform too by the editors on this site

    As have you. “Freedom of speech for me but not for thee, eh?” Reminds me of the unofficial slogan of nearly every leftist I’ve ever met, “What’s mine is mine and what’s yours is mine.”

    Or the punchline of the joke about the Hungarian peasant being proselytized about the benefits of socialism in the transition period after the war: “But, I have two pigs!” 😀

    “The left has run out of fascism bullets.”
    – John Stewart

  4. @Felix As Trump just told Zelensky when he made demands in a press conference, “You have no cards.”

  5. @Felix Newsflash: Zionism and Trotskyism, which you have never defined your understanding of – (the actual Bolsheviks were anti-Zionist, even if Trotsky admitted he was wrong about that at the end of his life when it was too late for him to do anything about it right before the Holocaust that Herzl and Jabotinsky foresaw long before when Trotsky was just starting out. In Herzl’s case, long before that. ) – have nothing in common. You are trying to hijack the one to resuscitate the other in your image.

    And you have just finished calling the editors traitors, to what I’m sure I don’t know, and now you expect them to humor you? Talk about chutzpah. Or perhaps dementia. You’ve been doing this for over 20 years?

    You said you don’t respect Jonathan Tobin of JNS because he has no achievements under his belt. What are yours? You’ve never said.

    I have no doubt that your response is going to be another round of sloganeering and name-calling – trying to sound like Marx – and ( notice I didn’t say, “but”) indistinguishable from Stalin to any uninitiated outsider to your one-man “cult of personality”.

    “A cult of personality, or a cult of the leader, is the result of an effort which is made to create an idealized and heroic image of a glorious leader.” Wikipedia

    I believe it was first coined by Khruschev when he denounced Stalinism after the dictator’s death.


    Oh, and here’s a tip. If you don’t wish to continue aggravating the editors, why don’t you respond in Chit Chat instead of in unrelated posts as it says to do at the top there. Besides insulting them, of course. Just a thought.

  6. I was in the Juilliard Store at Lincoln Center today – the only classical sheet music store left in Manhattan – and on the book shelf was a copy of “The Marx and Engels Reader”. Wow. Back in the late ’70s, when I was an anarcho-Communist, I had a like-minded girlfriend who was a student at Manhattan School of Music (MSM 😀 ) who was chagrined that somebody was going around behind her taking down all the political fliers she was putting up on bulletin boards. “The times they are a changin'” Hope they change back.

  7. @peloni

    It was a premeditated farce.

    The US wants to replace Zelensky with someone who will sign anything while kneeling and without looking to make Ukraine American property, and they already have this someone who really hates Zelensky and wants to jail him for life and who also happens to live in the US.

    Once Ukraine becomes an American colony, there will be tens of thousands of foreign soldiers there prepared to “defend’ Ukraine from you-know-who.

    Another goal of this farce is to get the Russians to stop the war and sign all sort of agreements by showing them that the US cares much more about resuming good relations with Russia than about Ukraine.

    These agreements will be detrimental to Russia but beneficial to the US when the US unilaterally breaks the agreements “with a good cause”.

    If the Ukrainians and the Russians still have any brains left, they should negotiate with each other and leave the US out of it.

  8. SEB-

    I believe you but find it hard to accept that Israel was foretold to beat several Arab nations all in 1 week.

    I remember like yesterday that I’d felt that all the US had to do was show the flag in the guise of a battleship unit, with cruisers and destroyers for Nasser to fold, and I still believe that would have happened just like that.

    But he chickened at the critical moment.

  9. SEB-

    I be,ieve you but fid it hard to accept that Israel was foretold to beat several Arab nations all in 1 week.

    I remember like yesterday that I’d felt that all the US had to do was show the flag in the guise of a battleship unit, with cruisers and destroyers for Nasser to fold, and I still believe that would have happened just like that.

    But he chickened at the critical moment.

  10. @ Felix

    I fight in the tradition of Trotsky to defend the Russian Revolution…

    Felix, I think you want the room next door and on more then one level.

    “What? I came in here for an argument.”
    “Oh, sorry, I think you want 12A next door. This is abuse”
    “Sorry”
    “Not at all.”
    [exits]
    “Stupid git,” 😀

    That’s from the classic skit:

    “Argument Clinic : Monty Python’s Flying Circus”
    https://youtu.be/uLlv_aZjHXc?si=zz5aQ1IrjaI3H27s

  11. @Michael Yes, well, Hebrew is phonetic like English but Mandarin is ideographic and tonal! I’m good at pronunciation but bad at memorization/retention and visual recognition. Fortunately, all the letters look different to me now and I am recognizing them more of the time in quizzes on Duolingo though I get tired and only do it every day for a while , takebreaks and go back. But, I’m slowly making progress, as I did with Hangul.

  12. I’m reluctant to correct typos in long posts with highlights because in the past that has made them disappear so please bear with me.

  13. @Edgar LBJ’s intelligence advisers told him Israel would win the war in a week. Hecouldn’t send a fleet because he was bogged down in Vietnam. He also deflected calls to rake Israel over the coals over the Liberty incident – which more than one antisemitic “friend” has brought out of the blue ; in poker, it’s what they call a tell. It’s all in that article I cited. I sometimes employ large highlights to support my arguments because I know many readers refuse to click on links to read my source articles for themselves. But I try to only include relevant passages.

    https://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/front-page/who-was-the-first-genuinely-pro-israel-u-s-president/2017/08/30/

    Another interesting item about how LBJ had to angle around the Deep State to support Israel

    Meanwhile, responding to a large increase of Russian military aid to the radical regimes in Egypt, Syria, and Iraq, the Johnson administration armed what at the time were regarded as the more conservative, anti-Soviet Arab states in the region: Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Lebanon, Morocco, and Libya.

    Ironically, supplying arms to some Arab nations made it that much easier for Johnson to deal with those in the foreign policy and defense bureaucracies who objected to selling sophisticated weaponry to Israel. He would point out to them that he was simply maintaining the Arab-Israeli balance of power.

    withe regard to the change in policy regarding mikitary aid:

    In The Bomb in the Basement, his history of Israel’s procurement of nuclear weapons, Israeli author Michael Karpin writes that “as soon as [Johnson] entered the White House the pressure on Israel on the [nuclear] issue ceased.”

    And while Kennedy’s final budget, for fiscal year 1964, allocated $40 million in aid to Israel, Johnson’s first budget, for fiscal year 1965, set aside $71 million – an extraordinary increase of 75 percent. That amount nearly doubled in 1966, to $130 million.

    Beyond the numbers, the precise nature and terms of the aid signaled a dramatic break with past American policy. Development loans and surplus food had constituted the extent of U.S. aid under Eisenhower and Kennedy, and anti-aircraft missiles sold to Israel by the Kennedy administration required a cash payment. Johnson changed all that: Not only did he become the first American president to sell offensive weapons to Israel (the missiles from Kennedy were defensive), but henceforth Israel would be permitted to buy American arms with American aid money, which meant no funds would have to leave Israel’s hard-pressed government coffers.

    As a result of the new arrangement, the percentage of American aid to Israel earmarked for military expenditures rose dramatically, more than tripling between 1965 and 1967. By the middle of 1966, Israel was purchasing military hardware the type of which would have been unthinkable under prior administrations, including four dozen Skyhawk bomber attack planes and more than 200 M-48 tanks (despite the objection of Pentagon officials, who told Johnson they’d prefer Israel buy its tanks from the British or the Germans).

    ibid

  14. @Michael S

    Then I went to China, and Hebrew started looking to me as practically English!

    The above might sound different from what I think you meant after you read the following poems about English spelling (click on the very first link in the search list and the file with the poems will be downloaded):

    Poems showing the absurdities of English Spelling
    The English Spelling Society
    https://www.spellingsociety.org › uploaded_misc

  15. Unconfirmed reports of Iran banning the reading and writing of Turkish language in Iran… If anyone has any info on this please post links here.

    This relates to the Azerbaijani’s in northern Iran where they comprise some 25% of population.

  16. PELONI-

    From your post to SEB is sounds as if some illness has happened to TED. If so it could only be a heart problem.

    In that case what happened and how is he now .Also give him my deepest concerns, and again tell me how he is and prognosis.

  17. Hi, Seb. Here’s the “Alef Bet Vet” song, which I found useful:

    https://youtu.be/-0LSBeX5uYw

    Here’s the kid’s song, which I found fun:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4dvFDLRPro

    It’s an easy song, and fun, in that you can actually find yourself understanding a few words of Hebrew. At first, I thought Hebrew was an obstinate, purposely difficult language, even being WRITTEN backwards! Then I went to China, and Hebrew started looking to me as practically English!

  18. @Sebastien Zorn

    How about printing a copy of the alphabet page (Hebrew/Sound/Print/Cursive) and copying it by hand a few times a day until you memorize it?

    Print:
    https://www.etsy.com/listing/1875798947/hebrew-alphabet-chart-8-x-10?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_-art_and_collectibles&utm_custom1=_k_EAIaIQobChMIipidxO_kiwMVCkB_AB04djSAEAQYAiABEgIRRfD_BwE_k_&utm_content=go_21500569338_164907277163_707558291657_pla-314954651933_c__1875798947_372810465&utm_custom2=21500569338&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIipidxO_kiwMVCkB_AB04djSAEAQYAiABEgIRRfD_BwE

    Cursive:
    https://www.etsy.com/listing/1262522042/hebrew-alphabet-letters-aleph-bet-canvas?click_key=31dfda1b21fc02f0b0f3a553f9152d00beb57a54%3A1262522042&click_sum=7fd0ef31&external=1&rec_type=cs&ref=pla_similar_listing_top-6&pro=1

    Pick any chart you like and print it for copying by hand:
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=hebrew+alphabet+chart

    Then you can try writing short words the same way:
    Hebrew word frequency list (10,000 words downloadable as PDF):
    https://www.teachmehebrew.com/hebrew-frequency-list.html

    You can print the list into a PDF just by using the PRINT function in Firefox.

    A lot (or maybe most) of the stuff on the above website is FREE.

  19. @peloni

    Well, the link does NOT work for me, and I see no icon to click on for the PDF..

    Could you post it here, in Chit Chat, please?

  20. Hi, Sebastien

    Vietnamese is the only language I was (Level 3) fluent in; but through lack of use, I lost that quickly.

    You can pick up Biblical Hebrew pretty quickly, because most of Tanach only uses some 800 words. I’ve tried at times to read and recite it at pace — mostly when I was in the conversion program for a year; but it was too much. I would start reading the Amidah during the service, but only get in about a line or two before everyone else sat down. I would then just “fake it” and sit down.

    When I want to study a word in depth, I have many tools at hand to get the whole meaning. Sometimes it’s quick and easy, but sometimes time-consuming.

  21. @Sebastien
    The link works for me. It takes you to an archived PDF of 23 Reasons which can be downloaded. It is 100 pages long and it can be downloaded. Your not being able to access it may be related to the browser or virus protection which you are using, just a thought. This is the only link for 23 Reasons which still works, to my knowledge.

    And yes, he was one of the original founders, but this was well before I came to Israpundit, which was back in 2006-7.

  22. @Michael No contest but advice from a Hebrew speaker/reader carries more weight, of course, for someone like me who knows nothing. But do you read Hebrew fluently?

  23. @Reader

    I tried to find his 23 Reasons article but it is not archived – the links are dead or absent:

    Not all of them:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20060501000000/http://www.onestateplan.com/23-Reasons.pdf

    I highly recommend it for those who have not read it.

    I recall that Felix had proposed that he would be rewriting this tome specifically from the perspective of a Trotskyite (not to be confused with a communist), but I am not sure what came of that undertaking.

  24. @Sebastien
    Thank you for moving this to Chit Chat.

    Who was Norland, did he found Israpundit, how long ago, and has Felix been commenting since then?

    Norland was one of the co-founders of Israpundit as I understand it, and I believe that this was about 23yrs ago. And yes, Felix has been commenting since most of that time, though he has shunned us of his comments during long absences following significant disputes which have arisen.

  25. TANNA-

    I believe that you have not deliberately set out to offend.

    That being as it may, you continue to do so by a continuous series of misstatements, and downright untruths. Face to face means nothing to me. I write exactly as I speak.

    Examples; You say what you believe is correct. This, in the face of the massive pile of FACTUAL, Confirmed evidence I’ve presented you with, which you totally ignored…I didn’t make it up, it was all FACT verified by the best experts excluding your aversion to Ehrman, who, in many cases was on the same side. yet you didn’t even consider any of it enough to discuss it.

    YOU FOLLOW EVERY CHRISTIAN WRITING AND MADE UP STORY AS ABSOLUTE TRUTH as you’ve shown now and before. Yet lies and forgeries have been glaringly exposed by certified experts. It is even mentioned on the Internet.

    You tell me that “you” (meaning me) hate Christians, when you know I’ve reiterated that I DON’T hate Christians but Christianity, And I mentions several glaring historical reasons. Yet you persistently twist the truth.

    Just yesterday I posted that Michael and I, although often at odds, are true friends, and HE is a really devoted Christian. You ignore even this.

    You say “i don’t hold to Christian tenets”…YET you parrot every word in the Gospels and believe those and other firmly proven forgeries and lies.

    So ,…you know Orthodox Jews.. I doubt they are truly Orthodox, as you’ve shown amply that you are totally ignorant of orthodox practicing Jewry.

    You show in your post that you have no idea as to the deliberations of the Rabbis in the Tslmud, you mentioned. None at all, because you are not a Talmudic scholar which is neccessary, and you are not a Jew -with Jewish Ethos.

    There you go again.. ONLY CHRISTIANS believe that the Gospels were written by Jews. Ample proof is available on any non sectarian site showing that NONE was a Jew and they were NOT written in Palestine. This view is espoused even by Christian experts. The evidence for a Luke is only a mention in a Gospel, which itself is anonymous, and none knows that it’s the same Luke a common Gentile name,’And “physicians in those days “cured” by writing a spell on a piece of papyrus and with spittle sticking it on the ailing spot. Physicians…..Bah…..!!

    {Galen the Father of physicians, and a prolific writer, provably complained that there were over 200 forgeries in his name”..

    I’ll stop here from banging my head against a stone wall, and because I’m fed up.
    I hope this isn’t too long to post.

  26. @Felix No. I’ve never heard of him.I don’t know anything about him. I think you should apologize to Peloni and Ted.

  27. Michael, I concur. I always found Yeshua’s comments in the story or parable amusing when he tells the guy…… If they/you will not believe Moses and the Prophets, how can they believe one who comes back from the dead? Paraphrasing of course.

  28. Edgar, I apologize if I have offended you. As I stated before, this form of communication is extremely hard because we cannot talk face-to-face. Communication is much more than words on a page.

    I never meant any remark or comment, I’ve made to be taken as an a hominem attack. That was never my intention. I, just as you, believe that what I believe is correct. It is my truth. I also know that as long as I’m alive and learning I will change my opinions and hopefully grow in knowledge. If we fail to do that then we are already dead inside and don’t know it.

    We each have our opinions and so be it. I do not try to convert you as a Jew to Christianity. You have a hatred for Christians. But it is misplaced…. I cannot be a Christian when I do NOT hold to the Christian tenets of the religion.

    I know Orthodox Jews who believe/think that the historical Nazarene was or could have been or IS the Messiah, but they admit they will not know for certain until the messiah shows his FACE. Messiah is to be understood on many different levels.

    A Historical fact, there have been many who thought they were messiahs, and many people who followed them, but to this day they have ALL failed to establish the Kingdom of God here on this earth. Progress has been made toward that point, but we have not yet arrived. Although, I have Preterist friends lost in that delusion.

    Try holding 5 different viewpoints in your mind all at the same time and they must disagree with each other, and all be valid. They may seem confused and not valid from one perspective but not from another. All five viewpoints are valid, but our brains will not allow us to fuse all of them into one coherent whole homogenously.

    The Rabbis in the Jewish writings do this all the time. You can’t read one page of text without 3 to 5 or more opinions. Which one is right? They can’t be all correct when they are in opposition to each other, Can they? Yes! They can – our job is to study the text given to us by our forefathers and understand what they are trying to transmit to us.

    I know you will not agree with this. Every writer of the New Testament except maybe Luke, was a JEW living in the first century. Each of these Jews of the first century are not and were not ignorant unlearned men. Those who have dug deep into their writings (scholars) say as much. They were very well educated in their day. Just because Peter was a fisherman does not = low education. The man had a business. They were schooled in the Torah and writings and all the traditions that had been handed down.

    Instead of casting these Jews of the first century as a bunch of liars, charlatans, and scammers, I take the position to try to understand where they are coming from and what they are saying.

    Any who, no harm meant. I am just a few years past 60 and anyone older than I is an ole man. That is not to be taken as a derogatory comment. We have earned every one of our wrinkles and white hair. I was just “pokin” you a little, having fun. I apologize it was not meant to offend.

    Peace brother!

  29. MICHAEL-

    Yes we’re long time pals and adversaries.. But your heart is in the right place and we both enjoy our mutual quibbles.

    As for Tanna, it’s different. A guy who denies he’s a Christian but who believes, and shouts out every single word in the Gospels, even the identified forgeries, and even later fantasy stories, word for word, letter for letter (like in your joint post) is seriously confused. (I politely use a euphemism)

    And to Cap it all, writes that I… (meaning ME) say I understand the workings of our Creator, is accusing me of being for me sinful, arrogant, narcissistic and blatantly WRONG.

    W-R-O-N-G…

    Never have I ever given this impression anywhere at ANY time. Never will………………… When I’m accused unjustly….I fight back..always… !!

    SEB assumed they were af hominem attacks, and maybe to him, they were, but he didn’t know the full reason.

    One more thing Mike. How did you get your post and Tanna’s together as if ONE post??? Computer trick??

  30. @Felix
    Continued from https://www.israpundit.org/unmasking-comedian-zelenskys-deception-and-his-true-role-in-the-war-on-the-global-stage/#comment-63356000285619

    your action against me was both extreme in its obvious hatred

    Nonsense, I don’t agree with you, but I don’t hate you. This is a silly notion.

    you using your never before used measure of taking away my free expression to rightful criticism

    Your ad hominem attacks are not rightful criticism and you are hardly the first person who was warned against using abusive banter in place of logical discussions.

    a savage attack INCLUDED on me being a “Communist” not making clear that I being a Trotskyist Communist is far more a fighter against Stalinism also.

    I don’t actually distinguish between the nuances of Communism and Trotskyism, so you have me here, though my comment could hardly have been a “savage attack” because I don’t use ad hominem. Feel free to try to show otherwise.

  31. Hi, Edgar. You said,

    Michael is a friend despite our differences.

    I think you’re right on both counts, Edgar.

    Tanna, For a couple of guys who believe they have a proper understanding of the God of Israel, it never ceases to amaze me why Edgar and I have so many disagreements. I see no profit in endless, pointless arguments, as, indeed, MY “bible” (as Edgar puts it) commands me not to engage in such things. Edgar, on the other hand.seems to have grown up in a culture (rabbinic Judaism) that encourages continual, repeated debating. This is the way it is: I admit that this is a constant source of irritation, and I apologize for the many times I have taken this all personally and have been VERY offended.

    I pray for Edgar often, and genuinely do care for him, and I think he knows it. I’ll stop there, for fear that we might end up arguing about it.

    Tanna,

    concerning your reference to Yeshua ben Yosef meNetrzat, whom I receive as ha Meshiach, called “Jesus Christ” by most, we have talked in times past about him.

    The New Testament almost always refers to Jesus as explicitly a human being, the physical son of Joseph and Mary. Nearly every Christian rejects this idea; but in my opinion, they don’t understand what they’re talking about.

    On the other hand, I accept that this Jesus is THE Anointed One (Messiah) that God has sent to teach us the correctly balanced understanding (namely, agape) of Torah. He has paid his “dues” with his own flesh and blood, and been rewarded by God with eternal life through a historically recorded resurrection from the dead. Today and throughout eternity, he stands next to the one God, the King of the Universe, at the Great Throne. He offers as many as believe on him eternal life, and the gift of the holy spirit.

    Of course, I accept these things as true BECAUSE of my trust in him; and they are impossible to attain without such a faith. As Jesus himself said to the unbelieving Jews of his day, he will not offer them any “sign” or “proof”, other than that a day of reckoning will come in which we will all stand before God’s throne and be judged by this same man Jesus.

    All of this was rehearsed before the Jewish leaders by Stephen, as attested to in Acts 6 & 7.

  32. SEB-

    Not exactly “ALL”, some are perpetual opponents, friendly yes, but not friends.

    For instance Michael is a friend despite our differences. Whereas Tanna persists in dispute by twisting and falsifications, despite positive evidence to the contrary.

    His personal references to me, quoting real facts, are derogatory.

    So…friendly but not friends. No matter…. perhaps one day, when he grows up, we will be.

    So Seb, don’t upset yourself about it.

  33. Tanna-

    If your reference to “the old man” means me, it sounds pejorative enough to take exception to. If not Well, I’m glad you gave him some amusement.
    I myself am not amused- only incredulous at the stupidity of a supposedly normal individual.

    I/n your peroration, you have another of your glaring mistakes (where would we be without them)

    I HAVE NO BOOK OF HEBREWS. I am 100% JEW…Christians have a book of Hebrews and 26 others as ridiculous , lying, and plain stupidly written from a dark age in history.
    (I don’t count the much plagiarised Tanach as part of the Christian bible)

    Have you “GOT THAT”…? …..GOOD.. jusr remember it.. add it to your twisted reasoning for having several of Ehrman’s derided books which excuse only a fool would believe….and I am NO fool.

  34. TANNA-

    I can ,understand the Muslim’s feeling and attitude.
    But remember he comes from a society which believes in magic, djinni, and…yes.. miracles.

    I don’t, I am rational, although a believing Jew in the quality and qualities of my People.

    I believe in accident, congruency, of unrelated events leading to a bad event ..or a seeming “miracle”..(what might be called fate). etc. As time progresses so do events which can only be “foretold”, by intelligent, far seeing deduction, not always successfully (which are forgotten) sometimes successfully (which are lauded to the sky)

    The long list of links are those seized upon to bring the speaker to prominence-and some money-, virtually the same as the blaring front page headlines of the yellow papers.
    tey flare burst into stars like a firework, and in 2-3 days are forgotten-untill the next miracle..

    My belief only which you might think cynical. So be it.

    I don’t know which old man you refer to nut if me, I’m not amused nor am I happy that you are.

    WHY keep maling glaring mistakes. I am 100% JEW and have no Christian book of REVELATION , Christians like you have one, It’s stupidity, bogus “revalations ” come from a dark era in history, and should go back there

    Your reason for having so many of the derided Ehrman’s books wouldn’t fool any but a very simple 5 year old Twisted is YOUR word, and you seem to love it’s results.
    When your thoughts are settled down into rationality-if ever- or the closest toit, you may be able to communicate lucidly again…I hope so.

  35. Edgar, take a look at this Muslim, you can believe him he’s a scholar.

    https://www.israelunwired.com/muslim-scholar-gives-bombshell-answer-to-how-muslims-will-respect-israel/?utm_source=israelunwired.com&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=muslim-scholar-gives-bombshell-answer-to-how-muslims-will-respect-israel-hilarious-elon-musk-proposes-new-law-for-anti-israel-protesters-brigitte-gabriel-stuns-reporter-with-the-truth-about-gaza-that-no-one-will-say-out-loud&_bhlid=8c6df8b8e6a6f8f54a3fb9445d14355359d3c7b1

  36. @ Edgar, Reader, SEB, and anyone else who cares to butt in!
    Edgar, you are so much fun. I do learn things from your post. READER, you are never butting in the more people who poke the ole man, we just keep his heart pumping and his mind sharp. Also, many thanks for the Hebrew links…. we got to get started learning the language of the whole world. Coming soon to a town near all of us. Anthony Gifford looks interesting.

    Edgar, the reason I have Erhamns books is that, I like books, and part of my journey in search for spiritual truth is through the -shitpile of Erhamns work and it seems I would rather break up the furniture to build a fire than burn books, even those written by the spawn of Satan. I even have a couple written by Darwin – what a monkey.

    Reader, thanks for the link I will check them out.

    SEB, thanks for the refresher, numbers in the bible hint and point us to many discoveries. Edgar, quoting SEB,… According to Chabad, the number 40 in Judaism signifies a period of significant transformation, testing, or preparation, often representing a transition from one spiritual state to another, as seen in stories like Moses spending 40 days on Mount Sinai receiving the Torah, or the 40 days of rain during Noah’s flood, symbolizing a renewal or new beginning; essentially, “40” represents a critical juncture in a person’s spiritual journey where a major change occurs…. Edgar, I’m praying for you to get 120 years so you can reach your change and transformation.

    Thanks, Michael for the 69X news site. One thing we are all witnessing and it’s going on around the world – there is change coming. Zech. 4:6 told us, Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, says the Lord of hosts. As the younger generation would say, this “Lord of Hosts” is a bad dude. LORD OF HOSTS (?????? ????????, yhwh tseva’oth). A phrase describing Hashem’s role as the Lord of the heavenly armies, the commander of the cosmic forces, the head of the divine council, and the leader of Israel’s army (Wildberger, Isaiah, 29–30; Zobel, “Tseva’oth,” 220). The phrase “Lord of Hosts” communicates God’s role as a warrior who fights both in the cosmic conflict against divine forces and through human historical events for His people, Israel. (exactly what we see goin on in the world).

    Edgar, I’m glad you got a laugh. I learned that twisting in Isaiah from a PHD Bible scholar while visiting the land of Israel, we were down in the Judean desert near Masada and he was X-plaining what had happened right on the spot we stood, 2500 years earlier. I knew enough to know he was pullin’ it out his ears…. But it sounds good coming from a Ph.D. Bible expert (Scholar).. Remember logic and reason will only take you so far… then the great leap of faith. Your book – Hebrews 11:6 says “Without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.

    No attacks on Torah, I just simply accept there are things I don’t understand and can’t comprehend. It’s NOT that the TORAH is wrong, or the RABBIS are wrong, our job is to try to understand what is being passed down to us.

    There is a very interesting study and lots of information by the Rabbis on this idea of Messiah ben Joseph and Messiah ben David, been looking at it for 30 years. My personal learned opinion is that Yeshua/Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah we all wait for. But, you have to remove all the lies that have been told about him and place him back in his day as a righteous Jew of his time period, He was not an ignorant carpenter – he set and discussed with the leading teachers of his day. To understand the man better you have to understand his mission, just like King Saul. on the first read, you would think both men failed. But, not really, both men did and accomplished exactly what was supposed to happen.
    In the future— messiah will be who he will be and we shall all be happy- makes no never mind to me what his name is/was as a boy. Except for the sons of Amalek, they are not going to be too happy. That Lord of Host is going to destroy them.

    Take care my Friend and when you get a minute pull out that Torah Reverand Johnson gave you and try reading it with a little Faith.