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By Ted Belman

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April 16, 2020 | 7,903 Comments »

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  1. Edgar, you’ve just been talking nonesense. You’re welcome to your opinions, but I don’t want to play games with you. You consistently dismiss most of what I say as untrue, without supporting evidence, then complain that I am doing this to you. Let’s not waste each others’ time here.

  2. Anti-Globalist, Anti-Woke Communist party wins 25% of vote in local Salzburg elections, up from 4%…

  3. MICHAEL_

    I partly expected that you would respond with obfuscation and no content.
    Not surprising that you don’t “understand”; you show a marked expertise at sliding around a subject for which you have NO answer, after making an untrue or misleading comment.

    When pinned down-as now- you pretend ignorance.

    You don’t need to pretend; as one whith your beliefs fills the bill.

  4. Edgar,

    I have no idea what you’re talking about. I suppose you could start your own religion, if you wanted to, or your own alternate history. Many others have done such things.

  5. Regarding the very astute analysis by Ms. Glick.
    We must all carefully prepare. The US at present is to be handled by experts… not generals.

  6. Michael-

    There was one beautiful phrase I omitted. It was written by Hugh J. Schonfield, the author of “The Passover Plot”

    “People are inclined to read the Gospels through rose coloured glasses”

    One has to admit that it’s THE perfect, brilliantly descriptive phrase.

    *******John 8 57-59. It was said by Jews during a dispute over the crazy claims “Jesus” was making about himself.
    That it referred to “Jews” shows that John was likely written after the separation, which happened during Bar Kocheba’s War, according to that order on a sherd, written by him to his officer. Also, the successions of Jewish “popes” ceased after the War, and were Christian from then on.
    Another explanation, that it is acknowledged by nearly all experts that none of the Gospels was written by a Jew. John 8 is an example.*******

    I’m sure you knew the above yet pretended that you didn’t and threw in “historians”. Deceptive, and against Christian Law…… NO???

  7. SEB-
    I’ve seen the photos, and the record of Eisenhower having filmed what he found because it needed to be preserved .I don’t recall his exact words but they showed his horror.

    And I could not avoid many references which were contained in books I read. I also know personally several people who survived. I was at school with a least 3-4 Kindertransport survivors and knew others.

    In Northern Ireland there was a farm called Millisle, where quite a few were housed and taught farming skills. I visited there several times and some of the kids visited Dublin.

    I just could not bear to see all the horror vividly shown on a huge screen, the piteous or vacant expressions on the faces…….Although aggressive I am by nature a “softie”..

    If Hitler had conquered Britain, or Ireland joined Germany , I would have been one of them, if I’d survived.
    I DID survive a bombing attack from a German bomber, whose bombs dropped just across the road from my house causing our home to be rendered unusable. We were all thrown around inside also. I’ve posted exactly what happened on this site.

    By the way, what was your history period of study???

  8. MICHAEL_

    Thank you for your response. You left out a few things. No historian said “You are not yet 50 years old” in SPEAKING to “Jesus” I’m sure it was in one of the Gospels or Pauline writings, at any rate the Christian Bible. So don’t evade the point. My recollection is that it began “Thou art not yet….”

    As for your dice roll (naturally) the Gospels, which are deemed by a large majority of scholars as very unreliable, historically, demographically and geographically, there is NO value in quoting “proofs” from it.

    Being a scientist, you understand basic arithmetic. Since Herod is recorded in your Bible, to have killed all the babies of 2 years old and is historically known to have died in 4 B.C.E. “Jesus” would have to have been born at least more than 2 years before that time, and this is accepted by everyone.(everyone who believes the Herod story)

    The date of 7 B.C.E or 9 B.C.E. are the most popular because of this unknown act of Herod, also likely because of the fact that Tiberius having died in 37, with John STILL alive and not yet having performed his supposed function of being the “forerunner”. This would make Jesus” at least more than 45 years old. John would have to have been even older, since he was already baptising in the year 6 (a census year) and obviously well known already Likely about 30 then..

    So where does it leave us. Exactly as we were before your response, which proved nothing, because I quoted either from your Bible or from known historical data.

    Sorry…..

  9. @Michael

    That being said, I give Suetonius’ work more credit than Brookes’ “History of the World,Part I” referred to by Sebastien.

    You mean Bea Arthur (nee Bernice Frankel) wasn’t a clerk in the ancient Roman Unemployment Office? I’m surprised. I knew she was old. I don’t know if Suetonius mentioned her.

  10. @Edgar I never said I was uninterested in the past. Hell, I was an award-winning history major! it was the ancient world I had no interest in as I felt it as irrelevant to the present era – like most leftists and progressives – and because I have to practically learn another language – or several, and I’m talking about variants of English – to understand it and see if there are any lessons for today or patterns that need to be changed and what the origins are. And just to learn our people’s history since we are under attack.

    But, enjoying it? I’ll give you the same answer you gave me when I said, Jean Renoir”s “This Land is Mine” (1942/43) starring Charles Laughton, Maureen O’hara, George Sanders, George Couloris, Walter Slezak and Una O’connor, is the only Holocaust era film before 1945 that actually refers, if only in passing, to the persecution of the Jews.

    You said you can’t bear to watch anything about the persecution of Jews.

    Well, I feel that way, these days, as well, but I’m gritting my teeth and reading these histories because knowledge is power. And then, now, and in the future, Jewish power is the answer for our survival.

    Volume 3 of the Zeitlin just arrived.

    And, I don’t suppose you care, but someone reading this might find it interesting (or else why are we discussing this in public, eh?) but the copy I ordered of “The Passion of Josepf D.” (a -parody of Stalin published in 1964 and then performed on Broadway briefly (Peter Falk of “Columbo” fame, later on, played Stalin, by one of the greatest playwrights America has ever produced, Paddy Chayefsky – who I was very please to read in the article about the kapo Jewish artists at the Oscar’s had publicly condemned Trotskyist – sorry, Felix – Vanessa Redgrave when she slandered Israel while accepting an Oscar for acting decades ago (he was very pro-Israel, I am happy to report) because I had lost my copy and I wanted to find this marvelous quote:

    “When a barefoot fellow tells you he is revolting against tyranny, watch out: he’s only after your boots. There you have the class struggle in a nutshell.”

  11. @Michael I said I thought Brooks was satirizing Twain not Suetonius.

    I love to revel in philosophical matters–especially astronomy. I study astronomy more than any other foolishness there is. I am a perfect slave to it. I am at it all the time. I have got more smoked glass than clothes. I am as familiar with the stars as the comets are. I know all the facts and figures and I have all the knowledge there is concerning them. I yelp astronomy like a sun-dog, and paw the constellations like Ursa Major.”

    – Letter from Mark Twain, San Francisco Alta Calfornia, Aug. 1, 1869
    http://www.twainquotes.com/Astronomy.html#:~:text=I%20study%20astronomy%20more%20than,at%20it%20all%20the%20time.

    – “Occupation?”
    ‘”Stand-up philosopher”
    “What?”
    “Stand-up Philosopher. I coalesce the vapor of human experience to a viable and logical comprehension.
    “Oh. A bullshit artist.”…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF2RYhNhBdw

  12. Hi, Edgar. You said,

    And, somewhere, I think in the Gospels someone remarks to Jesus “You are not yet 50 years old”..

    So he was no youngster according to both the timeline and this comment, having been born around 7 or 9 BCE

    That is, if he ever existed which to me is pure fantasy made up from a tissue of nonsense. O.K. Michael I’m finished so don’t attack me.

    No attack merited. As for those scholars saying Jesus was “not yet 50 years old”, this did not imply that “So he was no youngster”. It was intended to demean him, for not being as old as Abraham. Jesus’ approximate age was recorded elsewhere:

    “Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry.”

    — Luke 3:23 (NIV).

    John the Baptist was six months older than Jesus:

    “36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren. 37 For with God nothing shall be impossible” (Luke 1:24-37).”

    I read Suetonius’ “Twelve Caesars” nearly 50 years ago. It was written in AD 121.

    “The book can be described as racy, overly sensationalist, packed with gossip, drama, and sometimes humor. The book heavily relies on hearsay and rumor, and at times the author subjectively expresses his opinion and knowledge. Several important events are omitted.

    “Although he was never a senator himself, Suetonius took the side of the Senate in most conflicts with the princeps, as well as the senators’ views of the emperor. That resulted in biases, both conscious and unconscious. Suetonius lost access to the official archives shortly after beginning his work. He was forced to rely on secondhand accounts when it came to Claudius (with the exception of the letters of Augustus, which had been gathered earlier) and does not quote the emperor.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Caesars#Vitellius

    That being said, I give Suetonius’ work more credit than Brookes’ “History of the World,Part I” referred to by Sebastien.

    Despite Suetonius’ handicaps, I do not believe he was a “stand-up philosopher” a la Sebastien and Brookes.

  13. Danny Haiphong is another vicious antisemite. He’s probably a paid CCP shill. Why do you promote these people, Ted? Does it at all raise red flags with you that the same people supporting Russia and Putin are also supporting hamas? Are you that enamored with Putin that you just don’t care? Are you also ok with putin threatening nuclear war?

    This was a comment in this Video
    Putin’s BRUTAL Warning to NATO has Macron in Panic

  14. You call the occupation of Ukrainian territory “liberation”? Liberation from what? You sound like hamas. I think you love Russia more than Israel.

    Even in recently liberated Mariupol,

  15. Like with Israel, Biden has no intention of allowing Ukraine to win. He sends them a limited amount of munitions to makes an appearance of support but not nearly enough to actually win. Likewise with Israel he wants to stop them short of victory. Taiwan should expect no support either. Biden is siding with the axis of evil on every front.

    NYT: Ukraine will receive only six F-16 fighters out of the promised 45 by the end of spring.

  16. SEB-

    It’s only NOW, after reading your post that I really am beginning to know you. You went to great depth to explain your thought patterns. All the same I find it hard to understand why you had no interest in past events.

    In my opinion current events will only unroll as to their real intent and meaning , perhaps in 50 years time. There is far too much going on to generalise, so I concentrate on Israel and US Politics, where it touches Israel and Jews..We ordinary people are never cognisant of the real meaning or intent behind public political moves. Until much later.

    Your post is such that needs re-reading several times and deep thought applied. Much I barely believed possible -except that you say so…… and I believe you.

    Nothing constructed is as interesting as past history, and trying to get inside the minds of those concerned, allowing for the general beliefs and traditions. That is MY opinion only of course.
    Also postulating about future events, but only in a subject of interest to me.
    Yet I have the same habit as you, of going off in a tangent in the same post, but not a (to me) frivolous one, You may notice that in answering some innocuous question I then slide into what my be a condensed account of a connecting historical period.

    Your post shows me that not only am I old-fashioned and with a different mind set, but beyond old fashioned.
    But I would never want to be one of those who “forgets nothing and learns nothing”.. I learn all the time even at my advanced age.

    And thank you very much for your post.

  17. George Stephanopolous shames Rep. Nancy Mace for supporting Trump while being a rape survivor

    This was a despicable display of the level to which the establishment will go to demonize those who stand against it. Stephanopolous should be horsewhipped for such craven tactics, and then he should be terminated. Unfortunately he will probably be rewarded for exceeding his already well established reputation of a political hack masquerading as a jounalist.

  18. @Edgar My mind works the way it works and I make connections the way I make them. These “tangents” are what is familiar to me. Everything you are recommending to me is unfamiliar and completely alien. It is a struggle to even understand what I am reading.

    That’s always been the case with anything from or about any time before the Age of Enlightenment. I certainly never learned any of it in school. And it is really complex. Just the plot line is hard to follow. The Tanakh is the same way. I am trying to make them familiar.

    And others might be reading this and finding my connections valuable. I had a secular New Age upbringing at home and we have in common the things we have in common, including Laurel and Hardy because nothing has every been before or after my time. Everything ever recorded or that will ever be recorded anywhere in the world is my time, if I can only understand it which means relating it to things I do understand.

    And, sometimes, I believe valuable insights come about through thinking outside the box in this way. It also helps that both of my parents were born in the early 1920’s and my grandparents – who I never knew except for my maternal grandfather who died when I was 12 – were born in the late 1880s or early 1890s. I was born in the late 1950’s and my sister in the early 1950’s. Come to think of it, if my parents were alive, they’s both be turning 100 this year.

    But, I grew up also watching silent films which my mother couldn’t bear to watch because they were from before her time. 😀

  19. SEB_

    I’m interested in your opinion of the books I have named to you to read, and have no interest in Korea either South or North.
    (Nor Yul Brynner and Siam or others.) My film liking stops at Laurel & Hardy -a wonderful pair, and the 1933 King Kong. (not literally of course)

    (the backdropsand much scenery were from the 1932 “The Most Dangerous Game” a famous short story, known to every schoolteacher who ever set it to his students) to s.ave money

    Please forgive me that. You go off on tangents which to me (an expert st it) are irrelevant to the subject being discussed.

  20. This was a comment in this Video
    Putin’s BRUTAL Warning to NATO has Macron in Panic

    During Putin’s tenure as president he has already reduced poverty in Russia by 50%, built new infrastructure and cleaned up towns and cities all around Russia…not just in Moscow. Even in recently liberated Mariupol, three days after taking it they had the streets cleared of rubble and the bus service back in operation. Hundreds of new apartments have been built in Mariupol, new schools and hospitals have been built and people who lost their homes during the battle have been given new homes for free. Putin doesn’t just talk the talk…he walks the walk.

  21. @Edgar Alternate or Alternative history is my favorite genre of science fiction.

    Alternate history is a subgenre of speculative fiction in which one or more historical events have occurred but are resolved differently than in actual history.

    – Wikipedia

    For example “How Few Remain” by Harry Turtledove,
    “How Few Remain is a 1997 alternate history novel by Harry Turtledove.[1] It is the first part of the Southern Victory saga, which depicts a world in which the Confederate States of America won the American Civil War.” – Wikipedia
    “Man in the HIgh Castle” by Philip K. Dick,
    “The Man in the High Castle (1962), by Philip K. Dick, is an alternative history novel wherein the Axis Powers won World War II. The story occurs in 1962, fifteen years after the end of the war in 1947, and depicts the life of several characters living under Imperial Japan or Nazi Germany as they rule the partitioned United States. The titular character is the mysterious author of a novel-within-the-novel entitled The Grasshopper Lies Heavy, a subversive alternative history of the war in which the Allied Powers are victorious.” Wikipedia

    and “Agent of Byzantium.”

    “Agent of Byzantium is a 1987 collection of short stories by Harry Turtledove,[1] centered on the exploits of Basil Argyros, a Byzantine secret agent. The stories are set in an alternate 14th century, where Islam never existed and the great ancient empires of Byzantium (the Eastern Roman Empire) and Sassanid Persia survive.”
    – Wikipedia

    “The earliest example of alternate (or counterfactual) history is found in Livy’s Ab Urbe Condita Libri (book IX, sections 17–19). Livy contemplated an alternative 4th century BC in which Alexander the Great had survived to attack Europe as he had planned; asking, “What would have been the results for Rome if she had been engaged in a war with Alexander?”[11][12][13] Livy concluded that the Romans would likely have defeated Alexander.[11][14][15] An even earlier possibility is Herodotus’s Histories, which contains speculative material.[16]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_history

  22. @Edgar

    By the way, although you quoted from Zeitlin, you did’t say if you were enjoying or impressed by his writings.

    I am certainly impressed. As for enjoying? I dunno, it’s depressing stuff. Or comic after a while, like a soap opera with everybody constantly backstabbing and killing everybody else every five minutes. In Korean Drama theory, they’ve come up with a term to describe a phenomenon everybody knows from American soap operas going back to the ’60s, at least, “Makjang.”

    makjang :: a sylistic, tonal, or narrative element in dramas that chooses to play up outrageous storylines to keep viewers hooked despite how ridiculous the stories become (adultery, revenge, rape, birth secrets, fatal illnesses, and flirting with incest possibilities are some makjang favorites).

    – Dramabeans

    I’m reminded of “The Death of Stalin” (2018). Here’s a Tablet Magazine review.

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/the-death-of-stalin-by-way-of-monty-python

    Wasn’t there a story somewhere about how the Israelites wanted a king like everybody else and were warned against it but went that route anyway?

    One can see why Israel has always been a democratic republic from the beginning. South Korea has a history like that. The royal family, what was left of it, after the Japanese assassinations, sold out and became Japanese puppets. So, South Korea, was always been a republic and one that quickly evolved into a democracy. Royalty leaves a very bad taste in the collective memory. Though there are some fun alternative history Kdramas about a contemporary Korea that has a Constitutional monarchy.

  23. @Edgar

    By the way, although you quoted from Zeitlin, you did’t say if you were enjoying or impressed by his writings.

    I am certainly impressed. As for enjoying? I dunno, it’s depressing stuff. Or comic after a while, like a soap opera with everybody constantly backstabbing and killing and sleeping with everybody else every five minutes and plenty of birth secrets. In Korean Drama theory, they’ve come up with a term to describe a phenomenon everybody knows from American soap operas going back to the ’60s, at least, “Makjang.”

    makjang :: a sylistic, tonal, or narrative element in dramas that chooses to play up outrageous storylines to keep viewers hooked despite how ridiculous the stories become (adultery, revenge, rape, birth secrets, fatal illnesses, and flirting with incest possibilities are some makjang favorites).

    – Dramabeans

    I’m reminded of “The Death of Stalin” (2018). Here’s a Tablet Magazine review.

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/the-death-of-stalin-by-way-of-monty-python

    Wasn’t there a story somewhere about how the Israelites wanted a king like everybody else and were warned against it but went that route anyway?

    One can see why Israel has always been a democratic republic from the beginning. South Korea has a history like that. The royal family, what was left of it, after the Japanese assassinations, sold out and became Japanese puppets. So, South Korea, has always been a republic and one that quickly evolved into a democracy. Royalty leaves a very bad taste in the collective memory. Though there are some fun alternative history Kdramas about a contemporary Korea that has a Constitutional monarchy.

  24. SEB-I just now opened the site because I remembered hat very thing

    It seems to me that the Transjordan area was partly once the country of Moab, and in later years the Country of Nabatea, of which Petra was the Capital.. At some point is was described as “the Eastern Desert beyond Jordan”.

    It was when Nabatea defeated Herod Antipas, that he sent a message to the Roman governor to ask for aid against the King Aretas (4th-I think) as I recall. The Governor sent to Rome and Tiberius gave permission for the army to aid Antipas. They had just got to Jerusalem when they heard the news that Tiberius had died, and they stopped to find out what the new Emperor would do. Historically this was in the mid-year 37, and John the Baptiser had just been imprisoned by Antipas.

    You may recall that according to the Christian myths, called the Gospels, John was supposed to be the “forerunner” after whom would come the”Saviour” whom they said (or Paul the fake Roman citizen said)

    This messes up the timeline badly for Christianity, as John , according to Josephus first came on the scene baptising in the Jordan in the Year 6, described as wearing a camel hair garment. That the baptism was merely a cleansing the body to match the souls which he presumed had already been cleansed by the “victims” .So he may have been in his 60s by 37.
    .
    So there was nothing spiritual about the water dipping, which the Christians assert was the reason. And, as we know they have made it a central part of their religion.

    It’s a large subject so I’d better stop here before Michael jumps down my throat. But historically, my facts are correct. You may come across them in Zeitlin. If you do let me know what he said..

    I know that Brandon(S.G.F.) asserts the timeline as do many others. I find Brandon’s books very good on the subject.
    And, somewhere, I think in the Gospels someone remarks to Jesus “You are not yet 50 years old”..

    So he was no youngster according to both the timeline and this comment, having been born around 7 or 9 BCE

    That is, if he ever existed which to me is pure fantasy made up from a tissue of nonsense. O.K. Michael I’m finished so don’t attack me.

    P.S. It had been called by the Romans Palaestina” but was only was first called “Trans-Jordan”(the Eastern Province of) After WW! when the British “Mandate” took charge. Or around that period. . And before that again it was just a part of “Southern Syria”.

  25. @Edgar Thanks. How about the reference to “Trans-Jordan” at this juncture in history. Is it anachronistic or did the Romans and/or Judeans really call it that?

  26. SEB-

    No; It is not a foolish question but a clever and important one.
    NO, It had nothing to do with Shalit. There was never any mention of it ever. Besides, Israel has long gone away from Torah Law, except in cases where it suits their purpose. They are truly an irreverent bunch

    Shalit was purely political and was caused by the Shalit Family and Friends, and the HUGE groundswell they made for a couple of years.. The freed murderers was very close to their completed sentences, and the others were minor criminals.

    But I think that Dona Gracia Nasi likely thought of this Law, and c=acted because of it, apart from her great compassion and her massive conscience and love of Judaism. A truly Great Woman in Israel…

  27. SEB-

    Odd coincidence. I just keyed in to ask you how you were enjoying the Zeitlin, and I find your posts.

    Yes I know about the “Augustus”, he was proud but otherwise a very plain man. This according to “The 12 Caesars” by Seutonius, whih I used to pore over endlessly.
    He never became paranoic like all his successors did.

    When you get further into it I’d appreciate your opinions. You should also read Seutonius which I’m sure is on Gutenberg.

  28. @Edgar

    – [ ] “In the year 27 the Romans bestowed upon Octavian Caesar the title “Augustus,” meaning “vernerable, reverent,” and signifying that he was more then human.140 It was almost a deification. Octavian was proud of this title and adopted it as his proper name, and he was thenceforth referred to as Augustus Caesar. The Greek synonym of Augustus is Sebastos. This is why Herod named the new Samaria “Sebaste,” in honor of his patron.” – Zeitlin, p. 36.
    – [ ] Aww shucks. “Seb” to his friends? 😀
    – [ ] “Herod requested Augustus Caesar to give his brother Pheroras the tetrarchy of Peraea, Trans-Jordan, and Caesar granted the request.” – Zeitline, p.43
    – [ ] Was it called Transjordan at that time?
    – [ ] The reason Herod absolved the Essenes from taking the oath of allegiance was that he knew they regarded this as a violation of the pentateuchal injunction not to take the name of God in vain. However, they also held that anyone who became the ruler should be respected and obeyed because he attained his office by the will of God.” -Zeitlin, vol. 2, p. 43.
    – [ ] Do these rules come from the Essenes?

  29. @Edgar I realize this might be a dumb question and I might be reaching but, as I mentioned, ancient history, and Jewish law, are not my areas of expertise. From my notes:

    Notes on “The Rise and Fall of the Judean State, Volume 2” by Solomon Zeitlin. pub. Jewish Publication Society of America. 1967

    – [ ] “During the Roman civil wars and in consequences at of them, brigandage had become rampant. The satirist Juvenal mentions that the Romans were afraid to walk in the streets at night. Octavian Caesar took strong measures to eradicate it. 131 Judaea had a similar problem with burglars. According to the law, if a thief was caught he had to pay a penalty double the value of what he had stolen. If he had already sold the loot, he had to pay four times its value.132 If he had no money, the victim of his theft could sell the burglar into slavery to another Judaean. Such a slave could serve only six years; in the seventh he had to be freed by the owner.133 Herod however, sold those who had broken into houses to foreigners and sent them to other countries, hence into perpetual slavery.134 The people were enraged at yet another transgression of fundamental Jewish law. Among the “house-breakers” there undoubtedly were some whom Herod considered his political enemies, and selling them into perpetual slavery to foreigners was a good way for him to get rid of them. The sages therefore enacted a law that, if a Judaean slave was sold outside of the country, he became a free man in the eyes of the law.135 It therefore became the duty of every Judaean to ransom him, for the law prescribed the ransom of any Judaean who had become the slave of a foreigner.” – chapter 1, “Herod, king of Judaea.” p. 34.
    – [ ] Could the enactment of this law at this time then carved in stone for all time have any bearing on the ransoming of Gilad Shalit with the release of hundreds of dangerous terrorists because it was seen as a moral imperative to ransom Jews held captive in foreign lands regardless of the price?

  30. @Michael I can’t find it now, since I switched this conversation to Chit Chat and I don’t remember the thread where the eclipse was discussed, but I had posted the link to another site that examined the problem of the eclipse that never was in Connecticut Yankee and it said the nearest one was in January of the following year so I speculated that he was employing artistic license since the opening scenes could not have taken place in winter.

    By the way, watch the Unemployment office scene that takes place in ancient Rome in the Mel Brooks I just posted in Chit Chat, just a couple of posts down and tell me if it doesn’t sound to you as if Brooks is making fun of the statement that you just quoted from Twain when he describes his job as “Standup Philosopher” to which the clerk responds, “Oh, you’re a bullshit artist. Did you bullshit last week?…Did you try to bullshit?…” 😀

  31. Public Schoolers Paid $1,400 a Pop to Become Social Justice Warriors

    https://www.thefp.com/p/californians-for-justice-paid-1400-highschoolers

    “…After Goldfischer, his colleagues, and some parents complained to the school board in meetings and emails about the antisemitic messaging in CFJ’s posts, seven students and one community activist spoke out in support of the group at a December 6 school board meeting. In their defense of the group, six of the eight speakers used almost the exact same language, stating that CFJ has “been targeted by racist and xenophobic harassment for our support for Palestinian human rights.” One high school senior gave the exact same statement defending CFJ during the December 6 board meeting that the group’s spokesman gave to The Free Press on February 14….”

  32. @Michael

    “Yeah, Moshe lost the first set on his computer because he didn’t SAVE them”

    Maybe he saved them on his tablet? I heard he had more than one. Was it android or Apple? Wait, would that have been Eve’s schtick?

  33. Hi, Sebastien

    I think Samuel Clemens aka Mark Twain was given to hyperbole, viz

    The Complete Diaries of Adam and Eve

    https://www.bokus.com/bok/9780982129852/the-complete-diaries-of-adam-and-eve/

    cf “The Fall

    Eve’s Diary does not so much as describe the first sin. The story abruptly moves to a section “After the Fall” without taking any interest in the Fall’s nature. Extracts gives a more detailed account, presenting our first parents’ sin as a trifle. Adam is out and about, trying to keep a healthy distance from the new creature who talks too much and disturbs his peace. Suddenly the animals begin devouring each other, and the tigers eat Adam’s horse. He himself can barely escape from the big cats turned wild. He knows Eve has done it: she has eaten from the forbidden tree.[54] Soon enough, she comes along and offers him some of the apples she had taken. Though it was against his principles, he takes from them, as he is very hungry, and “principles have no real force except when one is well fed.”[55] It is important to note, however, that here, quite contrary to the original Genesis account, the damage is already done when Eve eats of the tree and not only at the moment when Adam consents. This may be another feminist element to Twain’s story, not allowing Adam to carry the weight of the responsibility, but ascribing it to Eve as someone whose choices matter.”

    https://veritasamoris.org/wheresoever-she-was-there-was-eden/

  34. @Michael @Vivarto @Peloni Iris Nuland plays the Korngold Violin Concerto

    who wrote the music for Robin Hood, among other famous films from the golden age of Hollywood and which incorporates the themes into it from his film scores. Heifetz championed it.

    @7’43”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm_ZV4q5Iys

    https://www.ahk.nl/en/news-and-events/news/2023/12/kersjes-vioolbeurs-2023-voor-iris-van-nuland/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Wolfgang_Korngold

    “…Erich Wolfgang Korngold (German: May 29, 1897 – November 29, 1957) was an Austrian composer and conductor, who adopted US nationality after fleeing from Europe. A child prodigy, he became one of the most important and influential composers in Hollywood history.[1] He was a noted pianist and composer of classical music, along with music for Hollywood films, and the first composer of international stature to write Hollywood scores.[1][2]

    When he was 11, his ballet Der Schneemann (The Snowman), became a sensation in Vienna, followed by his Second Piano Sonata, which he wrote at age 13, played throughout Europe by Artur Schnabel. His one-act operas Violanta and Der Ring des Polykrates were premiered in Munich in 1916, conducted by Bruno Walter. At 23, his opera Die tote Stadt (The Dead City) premiered in Hamburg and Cologne. In 1921 he conducted the Hamburg Opera.[3] During the 1920s he re-orchestrated, re-arranged and nearly re-composed several operettas by Johann Strauss II. By 1931 he was a professor of music at the Vienna State Academy.At the request of motion picture director Max Reinhardt, and due to the rise of the Nazi regime, Korngold moved to Hollywood in 1934 to write music scores for films. His first was Reinhardt’s A Midsummer Night’s Dream (1935). He subsequently wrote scores for such films as Captain Blood (1935), which helped boost the career of its starring newcomer, Errol Flynn. His score for Anthony Adverse (1936) won an Oscar and was followed two years later with another Oscar for The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938).

    Overall, he wrote the score for 16 Hollywood films, receiving two more nominations. Along with Max Steiner and Alfred Newman, he is one of the founders of film music.

    …Erich Wolfgang Korngold was born to a Jewish family in Brünn, Austria-Hungary (present-day Brno, Czech Republic). Erich was the second son of eminent music critic (Leopold) Julius Korngold (1860–1945); his older brother, Hans Robert Korngold [de] (1892–1965), also became a musician. A child prodigy living in Vienna, Erich could play four-hand piano arrangements alongside his father at age five. He was also able to reproduce any melody he heard on the piano, along with playing complete and elaborate chords. By age seven, he was writing original music.[4]:?11?…”

  35. I rate this interview of a young woman Noa Kalash who escaped the party after hiding in a bush for 8 hours very highly. The interviewer was really excellent. Noa was in London with a 10 minute video of that day October 7

  36. Seb Edgar

    Noa Kalash, a survivor of the October 7th massacre at the Nova Music Festival, recounts her harrowing experience during the attack. She describes how her friends were forced to hide in a bush for eight hours as Hamas terrorists shot at people around them.

    Many of her friends did not survive the attack, and some are still being held hostage in Gaza. The ordeal has left her traumatized, and she fears for the safety of those still being held. Despite not being a political person, Noa feels compelled to speak out and share her story to raise awareness about the tragic events that unfolded at the music festival.

    Noa Kalash who survived the October 7th massacre at the Nova music festival, says Hamas “has zero humanity”.

    “I wish I wouldn’t have lost so many friends… I wish we all as a nation, as the citizens of the world, wouldn’t have lost so many lives in Gaza as well.”

    Interview

    https://youtu.be/h-vXwk34iuk?si=Q6qwob0lKdpjVrrR

    I rate this interviewer of a young woman No’s Kalash who escaped the party after hiding in a bush for 8 hours very highly. The interviewer was really excellent.

  37. SEB-

    I suspected as much, as you know. But you can be reading it whilst the others are in transit. I’d like your reactions as you go along.
    Happy Reading.

  38. Hi, Sebastien. The link you provided, featuring Bing Crosby in King Arthur’s court, made passing reference to

    KING SOLOMON’S MINES (1937).

    My wife and I just finished listening to the book on tape a few days ago. It was great! Writen in the 1880s, is is said to have been the first of the “Raiders of the Lost Ark” genre. There was an eclipse in the book, but the author wisely didn’t date it.

    The book is deliciously non-Woke (downright Victorian), and manages to tackle sensitive subjects without lewd scenes. The “good guys” win, and all the Englishmen survive.

    PS: https://youtu.be/wKXtv2_IaCY

    PPS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpJXxmgi6CU

  39. Spokesperson for Michelle Obama confirms she will not run for President

    “As former First Lady Michelle Obama has expressed several times over the years, she will not be running for president. Mrs. Obama supports President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris’ re-election campaign.”

    Breaking 911

  40. @Edgar The Zeitlin arrived. It’s just volume 2. I ordered 1 and 3 from two other book sellers for $17 and $27 total, each. I see another seller is selling all three for $75+

  41. The Bataan Amphibious-Ready Group consisting of the USS Bataan (LHD-5), USS Carter Hall (LSD-50), and USS Mesa Verde (LPD-19) alongside roughly 2,000 Marines with the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit have reportedly Exited the Mediterranean Sea via the Strait of Gibraltar today heading back towards their Homeport in Norfolk, Virginia; the Bataan ARG has been Deployed for nearly 8 Months after being Extended in the Eastern Mediterranean several times due to the War in Israel and the possibility of a Non-Combatant Evacuation.

    OSINTdefender