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Is it just me, or are these people approaching the conflict in the Red Sea like a bad joke:
How do you deploy a warship without knowing that you are about to run out of ammo for that ship, with no possibility of supply?
@Michael
https://barbaraginsberg-kahane.blogspot.com/2012/12/israel-us-and-stinking-fish-1976.html
@Michael Monty Python “The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch” 😀
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ioXrZT9Ric
@Michael “Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammuntion” Kay Kaiser.1942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2m7fswxSF8
“Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition and we”ll all stay free.”
@Peloni What’s the renewed Russia hoax you mentioned?
SEB_
No bet. It’s a given that there will be some sort of mob violence. But not nearly as widespread as if Ben G’vir’s policy had been in place. Then there would not have been confined mainly to the Mount but all throughout the country. There’d have been outright murders much more than our daily quota..
I have urged for years for Israeli Police to track down the means that the terrorists smuggle all the rocks and bolts of wood etc into their Mosque.
I suggested that it was most likely that they would ise a 3 l3gged stand with a block and tackle at the Aksa edge to bring up their ammunition.
Or a similar mechanical metho./
Another possibility might be the unauthorised construction and “repairs” that are always going on there by the Arabs. There’s be lots of building materials -blocks and etc lying around.
@Sebastien
@Edgar
I think Ben Gvir”s policy change would have resulted in an owned error by Israel, even as the policy was soundly based.
In fact, the reasons behind Ben Gvir’s decision was the correct one to make, but we should consider what would have occurred if he had been allowed to move forward with such a bold but correct change in policy. If he moved forward with it, how easy do you think it would be for Bibi to keep his united opposition to the US in place? Maybe 5 minutes? In fact, the US would have turned the tables on Israel, brought down the hammer on them, and could have left the coalition in a far more damaged position than where it stands today. They would have condemned Israel under the pretense of Religious freedom and access to the Holy Sites and few if anyone would have come to support Ben Gvir’s changed policy.
I do agree that the yearly tradition of violence at Al Aqsa will likely be more exacerbated (read as more violent) than before, as will the calls for Jihad against Israel as a consequence. And let us not forget that Hamas is openly calling for terror attacks to take place over Ramadan, so there is that to consider as well.
Yet, I don’t see any way that the new policy would have been left intact even if the US allies in Knesset had not blocked Ben Gvir’s from implementing it as they just did. Hence, the move to block the policy change today only resulted in avoiding what would have been used as a scathing rebuke towards Israel, and there should be little doubt that that policy would not have ultimately been withdrawn after a great hellabaloo between Israel and the US.
This being stated, as I noted, we should all expect Ben Gvir’s warnings will likely prove to be prophetic, but there is little which could be done to implement that policy at this time and keep it in place due to the US-Iran realignment policy and/or the Biden Dearborn strategy. Just my own thoughts of course.
@Raphael
Well, to your point, they have already begun with a renewed Russia Hoax which they unveiled last week and all the usual Leftist Looneytoons have been pushing it as hard as they can, but I think the public will not bite on the . You may prove more accurate on this point, but I believe that this dog won’t hunt a second time, but time will tell.
@Peloni1986
My apologies to you and to Mr. Sacks. The last comment about “liars controlling the narrative” was added by me, hence the brackets. (Maybe there is an official convention for annotating other peoples’ work.) In any case, I think the liars do still control all the important narratives, because they “own” the media, academia, and the government. Every now and then, we can detect a crack in their armor, but they are far from losing control. We will see them operating at full force when the US presidential campaign begins.
@Edgar Well, he lost and we shall see who was right. Do we have a bet? (gentleman’s bet, of course.) Anybody else want to get on in this and make this a non-profit betting pool? How many think we shall see a repeat of 2021?
Just to refresh everyone’s memory:
“The Al Aqsa Mosque became a flashpoint for tensions during Ramadan in 2021, when an 11-day conflict broke out between Israel and Hamas in Gaza and rioting and violence by Arab citizens erupted inside Israel. Israeli police clashed with Palestinians at the mosque during Ramadan in 2022 and last year.2 hours ago
Ramadan Looms as Flashpoint in Fight Between Israel and …”
-WSJ
SEB-
Ben G’vir’s position on this matter at THIS time is WRONG. Just to flex his muscles is asking for the 5th Column to come out, millions of Jew Haters, and cause such internal disruption at such a critical time in the middle of a bitter War is asinine, and should NOT happen.
We can’t expect a Daniel to go into and emerge safely from today’s Lions’ Den”
@Tanna
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/385974
Fools
@Raphael
I have read several comments by Sacks. He is very much on target most of the time, but I would disagree with the final line in this thread.
The liars don’t control the narrative any more. This is why the Ukraine aid has not passed even as Ukraine is going from defeat to defeat more rapidly than by the day. They stand exposed and the ruses which have worked so well for them in the past do not have the means to convince the majority of the cover stories for their schemes. Time will tell what point of manipulation will be used to turn the funds back on, but the people are openly opposed to doing so, and that alone is a statement of their loss of control over the narrative. If their blame game narrative held any strength at all with the general public, the Ukraine aid package would be passing on its own.
This short summary of the Ukrainian war is the best I have ever read. There are important lessons for Israel to learn here.
A WAR OF LIES
by David O. Sacks
February 17, 2024 12:09 PM
The war in Ukraine is based on lies — lies about how it started, how it’s going, and how it will end.
We are told that Ukraine is winning, when in fact it is losing. We are told that the war makes NATO stronger, when in fact it is depleting it. We are told that Ukraine’s biggest problem is a lack of funds from the U.S. Congress, when in fact the West can’t produce enough ammunition — a problem that will take years to fix. We are told that Russia is suffering greater casualties, when in fact Ukraine is running out of soldiers — another problem money can’t fix.
We are told that the world is with us, when in fact the Global Majority believes U.S. policy is the height of folly. We are told that there is no opportunity to make peace, when in fact we have rejected multiple opportunities for a negotiated settlement. We are told that if Ukraine keeps fighting, it will improve its negotiating position, when in fact the terms will only get much worse than what was already available and rejected.
Nevertheless the lies will succeed in dragging out the war. Congress will appropriate more funds. Russia will take more territory. Ukraine will mobilize more young men and women to feed into the “meat grinder”. Discontent will mount. Eventually there will be a crisis in Kiev and the Zelensky government will be toppled.
And then, when the war is finally lost, when the whole country lays in smoldering ruins on a funeral pyre of their own making, the liars will say, “Well, we tried.” Having prevented any alternative, having smeared anyone who told the truth as puppets for the enemy, the liars will say, “We did our best. We stood up to Putin.”
In fact, they will claim, “We would have succeeded but for the fifth column of Putin apologists who stabbed the Ukrainians in the back”. Then, having shifted blame, and patted themselves on the back, they will blithely move on to the next war, as they moved onto Ukraine after their disasters in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The lies are comprehensive — but they will work [because the liars control the narrative.]
@Tanna How is this day different from all other days? 😀
Mr. Zorn, if I may add one thing to your list. If the Pal’s storm the Temple mount after being warned not to “disturb the Peace” Then Israel should take it away from them and completely control it and not allow pal’s to visit, except on the second day of the third week of Ramadon. 🙂
Netanyahu counters Biden: Most Americans support Israel
Israel must act pre-emptively and issue a warning, as well, that if they do this, the immediate response will to be to approve more Jewish settlements and dismantle illegal Arab settlements.
Moreover, that the homes of terrorists will not be blown up but, rather will be expropriated by the state, using Eminent Domain, but without compensation, and transferred to the families of the victims.
“Gaza is wrong and what you don’t see on tv”
https://youtube.com/shorts/UIGzMsWrG1w?si=Jk5idFqQhyW6u8Fj
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/israel/settlements-israel/pro-palestinian-authority-groups-spread-lies-about-israeli-wineries/2024/02/26/
https://zoa.org/2024/02/10449422-transfer-from-gaza-is-the-hamas-wars-biggest-taboo-ny-post-dr-mordechai-nissan-hebrew-univ/
An astonishingly delusional TSS piece today. In the comments, I wrote: “This is complete Fantasy,” And then, I wrote: “I’m reminded of the Monty Python’s Flying Circus skit about “The Ministry of Silly Walks” which is on Youtube. If only there were one about “The Ministry of Wishful Thinking” it would be highly appropriate. Quite.”
and, just now:
“Has the author forgotten Gaza which was supposed to become the Singapore of the Middle East? Well, maybe it did – in an alternate – I was going to say dystopian but this one isn’t so hot, either – reality universe in which Singapore becomes a terrorist hotbed determined to destroy neighboring countries, conquer the world, and murder everyone who had 3 or 4 grandparents who ever left chewing gum on a seat. ”
https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-789233
https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-789231
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-789447
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/s1ra90h3p
My screen froze repeatedly when I tried to get out of the pop up ads.
Hi, Tanna (I made a mistake. This should be on the “Breaking: Ukrainian…” )thread.
I saw a big banner to this sort of effect in 1979 at the university, put up by pro-Iranian-Islamist students. They had the Soviet Union as Gog and the US as Magog. Of course, the Iranians reject the Bible.
NATO is just part of the Western coalition: South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand and others are also helping out. Four of the original 5 permanent UN Security Council members are in this coalition, as well as all the G7 countries.
https://www.investigativeproject.org/9356/ipt-series-on-countering-pro-palestine-propaganda
@Sebastien
Precisely.
Trump now needs to focus on who should replace McDaniels as head of the RNC after she resigns following Super Tuesday. That will leave only one of the Mc’s still needing to be replaced, ie Cocaine Mitch.
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/elections-news/israels-municipal-elections-lapid-sustains-major-blow-in-tel-aviv-haredim-and-hardalim-take-jerusalem/2024/02/28/
“It was a huge victory for the Haredi and Hardali (Haredi Zionists) parties.”
“National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir congratulated the presumed winner of the post of Mayor of Tzfat Yossi Kakon who is supported by the Otzma Yehudit faction.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-win-michigan-republican-primary-haley-loss-rcna139692
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My comment: So, my takeway from this nbcnews article is a) Trump won 16 delegates out of 55 in the primary because the remainder will be decided at the party convention Saturday. b) The old ousted RINO chairman refused to step down in favor of the Trump endorsed candidate the Republican National Committee annointed and tried to set up her own alternate convention which was cancelled by the court (the Court ruled in favor the Pro-Trump candidate!) c) Under her leadership, the Republican party had no plan for winning the general election.
And Haley suggests that if only 10 people vote for her, justice and righteousness will have won the day. Where have I read something like that before? Hmmm. I dunno. 😀 Well, she might lose the election but at least she’ll have her minyon. Her minions’ minion.
Michigan is an open primary state. Dems can vote in the Republican primary. I wonder how many of them voted for Haley in Michigan.
But, Trump still won.
This is no longer a landslide. This is a tsunami.
President Trump projected for big victory in Michigan. This is expected to be a far bigger victory than in South Carolina, and this would be all the more important, given that it is in Michigan, one of the 6 ‘contested’ states, ie states where the fraud was not just massive but decisively needed to overturn the election and overthrow the will of the people. We will see how large Trump’s victory turns out to be, but it is an important point that his strength in this state remains quite significant.
https://www.jns.org/hochul-suny-system-threaten-legal-action-against-anti-israel-group/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-longer-afraid-of-sparking-war-israel-takes-gloves-off-against-irgc-in-syria/
TED-
Very well deserved Encomiums, and heartily seconded by me, as I’m sure you know.
The onewho send Israpundit articles around to his friends has better luck than I.
Neither the Logo “M” nor the Logo “envelope” work for me, although I keep trying. They used to until fairly recently. Perhaps you have made changes that my computer can’t handle.
Feb. 26, 2024
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/global/china/israel-slams-chinese-support-for-hamas-at-international-court-of-justice/2024/02/26/
Thousands of Jewish Teens Sing ‘Am Yisrael Chai’ in NYC’s Times Square
By Hana Levi Julian – 17 Adar I 5784 – February 25, 2024 0
https://www.jewishpress.com/multimedia/video-picks/thousands-of-jewish-teens-sing-am-yisrael-chai-in-nycs-times-square/2024/02/25/
Harvard sued over lack of action against antisemitism, alumni say furor devalues their diplomas.
Shurat HaDin is acting on their behalf.
–Visegrád 24
So much to fight against
The central lobby of the International Convention Center in Jerusalem on Thursday evening featured booths with signs inviting the thousands of participants of the “Returning to the Gaza Strip” conference to register to join settlement gar’inim (nuclei).
There was a Haredi gar’in planning to settle near Rafah, alongside a planned green city in the Strip, which declared: “You have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to participate in the rebuilding of the Hebrew city of Gaza, as a technological, green city, open to all and unifying the parts of Israeli society.”
According to the organizers, dozens of families have already registered for each of the six nuclei that were soliciting members. A huge map of the Gaza Strip hung on the wall, with the names of Gush Katif settlements whose residents were expelled by the Sharon government to save the PM from criminal charges of the State Prosecution. Between 8 and 10 thousand Jews lost everything so the corrupt ex-general got to stay out of jail. Shortly thereafter Sharon had a stroke and became a vegetable, much like the hydroponic lettuce that was abandoned in the Gush Katif hot houses.
The head of the Samaria Regional Council, Yossi Dagan, who was expelled by Sharon and his DM Shaul Mofaz from his home in northern Samaria, spoke to the crowd that included Bezalel Smotrich and Orit Struck (Religious Zionism), Itamar Ben Gvir, Amichai Eliyahu and Yitzchak Wasserlauf (Otzma Yehudit), Haim Katz, Amichai Chikli, and Shlomo Karai (Likud) and many others, calling: “Say after me: ‘The Oslo Agreement is dead, Am Israel lives.’” The huge crowd repeated the ecstatic chant three times, and it seemed for a moment that this united cry had the power to become a reality.
As Finance Minister Smotrich put it, “There is something in the natural health that exists here, in the strength, joy, and devotion to the Land of Israel that has the potential to deliver enormous strength.”
When Minister Ben Gvir took the stage, he was greeted by the crowd like a rock star.
“I remember myself back then, standing and saying that deportation would encourage terrorism, prostrating myself on the road in demonstrations, shouting that the missiles will reach Sderot and Ashkelon and being slapped with an administrative removal order to keep me away from the area and shut my mouth,” he recalled.
“What didn’t they didn’t say about us then?” he continued, “That we don’t understand security, that I wasn’t Chief of Staff, that if so many former members of the security establishment say that disengagement is a good thing, then it is a good thing.”
“It was all said there, 19 years ago, when the conceptzia dominated. I wasn’t the only one standing there. We all stood with you and your parents and yelled and warned from every stage.”
Ben Gvir continued: “I’ve been in the cabinet for a whole year, and when I said that there should be targeted countermeasures in Gaza, they again said that I don’t understand security. When I said that workers from Gaza should not be allowed in, they again said that I was not Chief of Staff, and when I said that Hamas was not deterred, all kinds of security experts claimed that if they say that everything is fine, then everything is fine.
“And again, the same mistake of the conceptzia that this time cost us not only in the deportation of thousands of people but in a massacre, murder, rape, looting – a war.
“Part of the fixing of the mistake, the recognition of the sin of the conceptzia that led to the expulsion and to October 7, is to return home!”
Ben Gvir concluded: “We must return home and control the territory, and also offer a moral and logical solution to the humanitarian problem: encourage immigration and pass the death penalty for terrorists.”
Daniela Weiss, who was one of the organizers of the conference, made no bones about her solution to the Gaza threat: “There are two options on the table, either Gaza will be Jewish and flourish or it will return and be Arab and murderous,” she told the conference. “Millions of war refugees move from country to country all over the world, and only these monsters must be connected to their land? Only they must stay on the land that they turned into a hell? October 7 changed history. Gaza, our southern gate, will open wide, Gazans will move away to the whole world and the people of Israel will settle Gaza.”
Housing Minister Yitzhak Goldknopf of United Torah Judaism delivered the support of the Haredi community to the conference. “I will support correcting the injustice and returning to Gush Katif and the Gaza Strip,” he said on stage, to great applause. “The settlement of Gush Katif will burn in the enemy’s consciousness and increase the security of the people of Israel… If indeed the Israeli government makes such a decision, as the Minister of Construction and Housing I will work to implement the government’s decision and restore our days as before,” he promised.
Minister Gadi Eisenkot (National Union), the former IDF chief of staff who did his best to reduce the fighting capability of the IDF and Israel’s capacity to produce its own weapons and ammunition, on Monday morning tweeted his condemnation of the ministers and MKs who “find time for an event that divides Israeli society.”
“Everyone who participated yesterday in the event at the ICC didn’t learn anything from the events of the past year about the importance of actions with a broad national consensus and solidarity in Israeli society,” Eisenkot rebuked.
Like the Royal Bourbons, the retired General has learned nothing and forgotten nothing. Luckily for the rest of us, the segment of the nation that was attacked brutally by him and the rest of the security apparatus, will never again be punched in the face and say it was a loving caress from our brothers and sisters on the other side.
@Laura
This is actually not the question. The question is whether Trump can overcome the election fraud. There is no doubt he will win the election process, as he did in 2020, but to take control of the White House, he has to defeat the Selection process, and that remains a question yet to be answered.
This is completely irrelevant. The question has always been is whether Trump can win the general election.
Donald J. Trump wins the South Carolina Republican primary.
Trump defeated Haley 94 to 5 percent in CPAC Straw Poll.
Actually, they only hope she could make a case against Trump. In fact she is about to be squashed in a primary in her own state, demonstrating how well Democrat surrogates fair in Rep primaries.
@mirib
In the aftermath of the last war between Azerbaijan and Armenia, an older probably Jewish woman that I just happened to speak with in a store in my neighborhood said proudly that the Turkish owner of another store – that also carried canned stuffed graped leaves. I llke the Greek ones – supported Armenia. Well, I didn’t have to time to ask her if maybe it was because he hates Israel, since Armenia is aligned with Iran and Azerbaijan with Israel but even if that wasn’t the case and with regard to the pro-Ukraine Russian expatriate you mentioned, all I can do is quote my late father who frequently opined:
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Blue City Law Allowing Non-Citizens To Vote Ruled Unconstitutional
This was an important ruling.
https://www.memri.org/reports/plo-covenant-was-never-abolished