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April 16, 2020 | 7,916 Comments »

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    Son of Hamas Founder Urges Israel to Kill His Father if Hostages Not Freed”

    “Mosab Hassan Yousef, the son of one of Hamas’s original founders, called on Israel to set a time limit for the terror group to release all its hostages and to assassinate his father, Sheikh Hassan Yousef, and other Hamas leaders if they don’t. Yousef’s statement was made in a video posted on X, formerly called Twitter, on Tuesday.
    “Hamas must have a timeframe – a month or two or six months – to return the hostages and if they don’t return the hostages within the time frame, Israel must execute top Hamas leaders in prison, especially the mass murderers,” said Yousef.

    When I say execute top Hamas leaders, I mean no exceptions. That includes my own father, the co-founder of the Hamas movement. In this war, there are no exceptions,” added Yousef. “I made a mistake, 10 or 15 years ago when I saved his life many times…He was supposed to die for his actions. I saved his life. Things did not change, things got worse,” he added.
    He warned that Hamas is intentionally dragging out negotiations to extend the temporary ceasefire.
    “Hamas is going nowhere, and if we continue to negotiate with them, they will continue stretching this negotiations, taking us into a rabbit hole that will never end. And this is their goal: to get away with their crimes. We cannot allow this to happen,” Mosab stressed.
    Mosab, 45, was born in Ramallah and became involved in Hamas activities as a youth, and viewed as an eventual successor to his father’s position in the terror organization. But while in Israel’s Megiddo Prison during his early adulthood, Mosab began to question Hamas’s ideology and tactics and became disillusioned with Hamas’s extremism.
    He accepted an offer by the Israel Security Agency (Shin Bet) to become an informer on condition that Israel would try to arrest, not kill, the targets of his intelligence tips.
    As the son Sheikh Yousef, Mosab was privy to many Hamas plans. For around one decade, the intelligence he provided the Shin Bet foiled numerous suicide bombing attacks and assassination attempts, and exposed terror cells. Within the Shin Bet, he was referred to as “The Green Prince.”
    In 2010, Mosab published his autobiography, “Son of Hamas.” He converted to Christianity and currently lives in the US.
    Sheikh Yousef, has been in and out of Israeli prisons for years. Israel arrested him in Ramallah on Oct. 19 during a crackdown on Hamas following the Oct. 7 attacks.
    At least 1,200 people were killed in Hamas’s attacks on Israeli communities near the Gaza border on Oct. 7. Another 240 men, women, children and soldiers were taken back to Gaza as hostages. Some people remain unaccounted for as Israeli authorities continue to identify bodies and search for human remains.
    Approximately 155 Israelis and foreigners are still being held in Gaza, including Kfir Bibas, who was 9 months old when he was taken hostage by Hamas along with his parents and 4-year-old brother from Kibbutz Nir Oz on Oct. 7.”

    https://www.jewishpress.com/news/eye-on-palestine/hamas/son-of-hamas-founder-urges-israel-to-kill-his-father-if-hostages-not-freed/2023/11/29/

  3. ” One of the abductees, held for nearly 50 days in an attic, reveals he was held by a UNRA teacher – a father of ten children. This teacher locked the victim away, barely provided food, and neglected medical needs,” Boker wrote on X (Formerly Twitter).

    “But wait, there’s more! Another abductee was held captive by a Gazan doctor who, simultaneously, cared for children. These are not isolated incidents; these civilians are terrorists. Present at the Saturday massacre, they’re now revealed as integral to holding hundreds captive, including women and children,” he added.

    UNRWA, the United Nations agency dedicated to the descendants of the Arab refugees from Israel’s War of Independence, has frequently been criticized for its connections to the Hamas terrorist organization and the extreme antisemitism of many of its employees, including teachers. Its curricula and summer camps teach children to want to kill Israelis.”

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/381158

  6. @Edgar

    “The Jerusalem Magistrate’s Court this morning (Tuesday) issued a temporary order ordering the terrorist who stabbed and injured Moriya Cohen in the Shimon Hatzadik neighborhood in Jerusalem, and was released last night, to refrain from making any contact with Cohen or her children, as part of a request for a threatening harassment order.”

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/381084

  9. SEBASTIEN-

    You sound as if you are against Hostage Exchange. This cannot be true, but you sound off against it, with your comment that doing so will lead to other Israeli deaths from the released terrorists.

    Well that has been in the past, but only with the “free Shalit” craze, which evaporated almost as soon as it was consummated.

    Shait was worth exactly ONE minor terrorist in exchange, but the whole nation went mashugga. The pols couldn’t stand against them.

    The terrorists being released now are bringing back our hostages and none of the released pose a great danger to Israel. We’ve learned our lesson with Shalit.

  10. TED-

    I think that the “right to exist” implies the right to self defence, for a nation surrounded by bloodthirsty enemies, constantly trying to destroy its existence.
    And also Including pre-emption..

  11. @Sebastien Zorn

    Wasn’t the terrorist released as part of the hostage deal?

    Then the court is not at fault, BTW, they released a few of them who returned to the East Jerusalem.

    If they were released, continuing to punish them is like punishing them twice for the same crime.

  12. Bibi said today:

    Jerusalem will not give up on its goal to destroy Hamas, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Wednesday, amid rumors the terrorist organization offered to release all hostages held in Gaza in exchange for an end to the Israel Defense Forces operation.

    “There is no way we are not going back to fight to the end. This is my policy, the entire Cabinet stands behind it, the entire government stands behind it, the soldiers stand behind it, the people stand behind it—this is exactly what we will do,”

    “From the beginning of the war, I set three goals: the elimination of Hamas, the return of all our hostages, and to ensure that Gaza will never again be a threat to Israel. These three goals remain,”

  14. PELONI-

    Just a very minor point….the House did not “re-affirm” they “affirmed”. One could believe that they haven’t done this very same thing quite a number of times before….but they have……!!
    And very politically aptly they have added a lot more to their affirmation.
    This should garner quite a few millions from wealthy Jewish donors-Democrats of course, the Repubs, who are the majority, will be, as usual overlooked .

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  15. Peloni

    About this young woman she faces a difficult situation

    The problems facing her come from Capitalism. Do I have to list them?

    The Democrats are a capitalist party through and through.

    The Republicans equally.

    So no party exists to stand on the need for socialist revolution in America

    So there is nowhere she can go.

    To suggest she can find succour in any branch of capitalism in America is cruel to the youth.

  16. Tonight, the US House of Representatives passed H. Res. 888, reaffirming Israel’s right to exist.
    @RepThomasMassie voted no.
    @RepRashida voted present.

    The resolution:
    – recognizes that Jewish people are native to the Land of Israel;
    – reaffirms Israel’s right to exist;
    – recognizing that denying Israel’s right to exist is antisemitic;
    – rejects calls for Israel’s destruction/elimination;
    – condemns the Hamas-led terror attack on Israel.

    https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1729704680534511730

    House of Representatives votes 412-1-1 for bill affirming Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state.

    Rep. Massie was the sole vote against.

    Rep. Tlaib voted present.

    https://twitter.com/IsraelWarRoom/status/1729660646256435332

  17. This is insane: Now, will any Progressive idiots understand the need for judicial reform and that hostage exchanges lead to more dead Jews?

    “The Jerusalem Magistrate’s Court this morning (Tuesday) issued a temporary order ordering the terrorist who stabbed and injured Moriya Cohen in the Shimon Hatzadik neighborhood in Jerusalem, and was released last night, to refrain from making any contact with Cohen or her children, as part of a request for a threatening harassment order.”

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/381084

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  18. @Honeybee

    Do you think the Jewish teacher, who was threatened by a raging mob of students, was a “progressive, anti-Trump Democrat?

    Very good of you to raise this point. I think that if she was part of the progressive anti-Trump Dem crowd, which would be easily expected given her profession and locality, she will be likely less inclined towards supporting them in the future. Like Eve Barlow and Martin Varsavsky and many others, those Jews who ran with the progressive anti-Trump Dems are awakening to a reality which they never saw coming, where their ‘allies’ are allied with a death cult which seeks their destruction simply because the are Jews despite their life long allegiance to their Lefty ideologies. It brings to mind some decades ago of a German Jew who was being beaten during Kristallnacht while holding up a WWI Iron Cross as if to ward off the consequences of being the target of his compatriots.

    The scenes we are witnessing of course won’t turn these Lefty Jews into Trump advocates, or at least not overnight, but for the moment they will likely feel a sense of dysphoria as their faith in the Dems as a source of justice, security and conviction is ripped to shreds right before their very eyes with recollections of such scenes as this teacher being chased, or the students a few weeks ago hiding in a library, or the fellow who mistook America as still being a bastion of free speech when he showed up at a Pal rally and was murdered for having done so. More than any of these events, however, I believe the real dysphoria for our Lefty Jewish cousins will likely be due to the fact that, amid the massive increase in violence against the Jews around the US (and the world), the law is not being equally enforced, but rather, Justicia is lifting the blindfold to specifically abandon the Jews to their plight.

    Like the horror of the Simchat Torrah massacre in Israel, the coordinated antisemitic assaults taking place around the world are facing little to no backlash, and outright support on many occasions. It is only my own perspective, speaking as a lifelong conservative, but it seems reasonable to believe that as the most basic aspects of Western democracy such as equality before the law are being sacrificed to affect the union between the Left and their radical Islamist allies, many of the Leftist Jews will be motivated in time to part from their Leftist ties of identity, and in fact, there are signs that this is already taking effect among some.

  19. pelonie1986 Just a musing. Do you think the Jewish teacher, who was threatened by a raging mob of students, was a “progressive, anti-Trump Democrat?

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  20. Patrick Byrne is reporting that a major legal brief will be released today or tomorrow which he describes as being a ‘Liver Punch’ to the Washington elites. The context of the brief is not yet been released, but he qualifies it as being perhaps the biggest move against the govt in the past three years. Following the Liver Punch, he shares that a bigger story will be coming out right after the Liver Punch. Notably, Patrick’s timelines are unreliable, as the Liver Punch was first noted to be released around November 1, so we will see it when ever it finally does arrive, but it is reported that it will deliver an important blow against the Deep State controlled US govt, which really could use something to distract it from continually interfering in matters which should be seen as being strictly Israeli sovereign decisions such as the hostage deal.

  21. I believe the following is VERY good news for Israel:

    Israel hosted Elon Musk on Monday, where he toured sites of the October 7 massacre and was shown footage of the violent acts committed by the terrorist organization on Israeli soil.

    Musk voiced support on Monday for Israel after it came under attack by Hamas terrorists, saying one challenge was “ultimately stopping the propaganda that is convincing people to engage in, you know, murder.”

    After hearing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu saying Hamas must be destroyed in a live online chat, Musk said: “There’s no choice.” Musk, visiting Israel during its war on Hamas in Gaza, added: “I’d like to help as well.”

    Netanyahu and Musk later held a live chat on X, which can be listened to in full below.

    https://t.co/vJDbprlHhj
    — Benjamin Netanyahu – ?????? ?????? (@netanyahu) November 27, 2023

    https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-775304

    Unlike Biden & Co., Elon Musk can really help Israel; and his heart seems in a good place.

  23. Regarding the article on how the church sowed seeds for the Holocaust; Specifically the Roman Catholic church being an antagonizing force (including the early church fathers) against Jewish survival. While Martin Luther also became disillusioned with the “salvation of the Jew” and his writings reflected later reformation replacement theology, not all Christian believers accept or condone ill will towards any person of other faiths. Most non-denominational and Baptist professing Christians believe as to what Paul the Apostle refers to as “the final engrafting of the nation of Israel” with respect to salvation through the true Messiah. Not my intention to use this platform to preach, but to clarify any reference to “all” Christians without respect to individual beliefs under a universal domain of “Christian church”. CBN has some of the most unbiased reporting currently on the Hamas created scenario in the Middle East.

  24. Stacks of $100 bills are being reported as being seized from Hamas strongholds in Gaza…I wonder which US shipment of cash to Iran those bills originated from…

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  27. Despite Attack, Southern Israel startup delivers on EV batteries

    https://nocamels.com/2023/11/carrar-ev-batteries/

    “An Israeli automotive startup was busy completing its first major contract with car giant Volvo when its team was caught up in the October 7 attack by the Hamas terror group, which killed 1,200 people in southern Israel.

    Carrar has developed a new way of automatically cooling electric vehicle (EV) batteries, by more effectively dissipating the heat generated when being used or charged, or just idling in a hot parking lot. This prevents damage to the batteries that in some extreme circumstances could even cause the car to catch fire.

    ‘The Carrar facility is based near the city of Sderot, where gangs of terrorists who stormed across the border from Gaza rampaged through the streets for hours until they were brought down by Israeli security forces.

    Most of the company’s 24-person team also lives in or near Sderot, not far from the Carrar base at Sapirim Industrial Park. And like most people, they found their lives – and work – put on hold as Israel reeled from the shock of the attack.

    Hamas terrorists did in fact target the company’s facilities with rocket-propelled grenades, but the factory fortunately escaped without severe damage.

    “We were all in shock during that first week,” CEO Avinoam Rubinstain tells NoCamels

    ‘Nearly every person in the company has an experience to share from that terrible day, he says.

    Tom Balestra, the company’s R&D integration engineer, hid under the bed with his pregnant wife for 13 hours at their home in Kibbutz Nir Am. It was one of the few communities that Hamas terrorists failed to enter, thanks to the civil guard who repelled their attacks.

    And a project manager from the startup was abroad on his honeymoon on the day of the attack, only to later discover that two family members had been killed. He attended 11 funerals in the first week he came back.

    “On October 7, we didn’t know until late at night whether everyone was still alive,” Rubinstain recalls.

    ‘But by the second week of the war, the Carrar team had decided to return to work. On their first day back, they were accompanied by members of the Israeli security forces to ensure that no Hamas terrorists had escaped and were hiding out in their offices.

    According to Rubinstain, the chances of successfully making the November deadline for their first major business deal were low.

    “There was not a high probability that we would make the target, but the team worked really hard,” he says. Not only did they give up their weekends to reach their goal but also repeatedly flew back and forth to Germany, where they were now testing the battery packs.

    And despite all the worry, fear and grief that the team was going through, they made the deadline.

    ‘The company’s patented battery packs house an EV’s lithium ion fuel cells. The packs are filled with liquid that vaporizes whenever the fuel cells heat up, which happens whenever the car is being driven or charged.

    ‘The vapor is funneled to a condenser, which cools it down and into liquid form again before sending it back to chill the battery cells.

    The solution is universal, and has already been tested on battery cells from multiple manufacturers.

    “W??e got attention from almost every car manufacturer,” he says, “because the challenges that Carrar addresses is one of the biggest challenges in the market – to make the EVs available to everyone.”

    There are several methods used today to cool EV batteries, the most common being liquid cooling. This involves placing a liquid coolant such as water or ethylene glycol around the battery cells, which redirects the heat.

    One downside to liquid cooling is that the connections between the pipes can degrade over time and lead to the coolant leaking, hurting battery performance and lifespan and posing potential safety hazards.

    ‘But the greatest drawback, says Rubinstain, is that this system – and the other methods used to cool EV batteries – simply cannot dissipate enough heat.

    This means that EV makers deliberately slow the process to fully charge batteries. Most public charging stations will deliver enough juice per hour for 15-25 miles (24-40 km) of driving – meaning it takes 10 hours or more to completely charge a battery.

    But Rubinstain says that EVs fitted with Carrar’s battery packs only need around 20 minutes to fully charge.

    “We address all of the challenges in electrical vehicles in one solution,” he says.

    And despite the trauma they have faced, the Carrar team keeps working, looking ahead to the next big project.

    “It’s a very difficult situation – but we are trying to do our best,” Rubinstain says.

    “We see our company as an island of stability for our workers.”

  35. @Edgar

    the GOAL is to utterly destroy Hamas

    Exactly! Leadership requires making choices, and if the hostages are leveraged against the ultimate destruction of Hamas, the hostages must be maintained as a secondary to this primary goal.

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  36. PELONI-

    You’ve hit on a point I immediately noticed when you said that “Israel will not finish the war until all the hostages are released”, and followed by specifying the goal.

    The hostages -and it hurts me to say this- are only incidental to the War. (even though a big “incidental”. The War was caused by the brutality and massacres of Hama’ invasion, and the GOAL is to utterly destroy Hamas.

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  39. Israel WILL defeat Hamas and Putin will not allow attack from Hezbollah through Syria because Putin is a careful not reckless operator. Also he wants Israel to remain. Why we can argue about that.

    It is what comes after that is worrying.

    And here we come back to the problems inside of Israel re leadership which is also overall world socialist leadership.

    The left has disgraced itself over Hamas.

    But it is above all absence of a plan or overall aim to officially rule out a 23rd Arab state by Jewish leadership that is the real killer.

  40. Israeli and Polish national soccer teams hold unauthorized moment of silence before European qualifying match

    “The Union of European Football Associations, Europe’s football governing body, had reportedly rejected a request to hold an official moment of silence before the match between Israel and Poland. The two teams were facing off in a qualifying match in Lodz, Poland, for the 2025 European Under-21 Championships.

    The teams ignored UEFA and held a moment of silence anyway.

    For the first minute of the game, players on both teams remained in formation and did not move as the clock began to run. The stadium was quiet, too.”

    https://www.jta.org/2023/11/22/sports/israeli-and-polish-national-soccer-teams-hold-unauthorized-moment-of-silence-before-european-qualifying-match

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  42. @Edgar
    If you are wrong, Bibi and the entire Israeli administration would simply be placing themselves in an impossible position with no benefit to either the nation nor themselves.. In fact, doing so was very likely their very purpose in making such clear statements that the war will resume. As you have noted, no one should be deceived into believing that the lull in hostilities will be anything more than temporary. There is no chance that this hostage exchange will end the war, if for no other reason than that there are nearly 4/5 of the hostages still being held. Notably, everyone is mentioning that the war will not end til all the hostages are home, and this point does disturb me to no end. The return of the hostages must not become the primary nor the sole aim of this war.

    Hamas must be destroyed, and the Pals should ultimately be evicted to somewhere else or at least to the south, though the displacement of the Pals does not seem to be in Bibi’s designed calculus, not yet in any event.

  43. You ALL will see that my post of the other day saying that Israel will NOT need Hamas to begin Hostilities (such a foolish comment) but will itself resume them is being shown clearly by the PM.
    I am convinced that if there is NO move to release the hostages as per agreement, by midnight, Hamas will get a strenuous “wake -up” call.

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  47. The Los Angeles Police Department has declared a citywide tactical alert due to multiple incidents involving large groups of pro-Palestine protesters reportedly turning violent. Police are in riot gear as hundreds of pro-Palestine demonstrators march through city streets. One group has entered The Grove shopping center in Los Angeles, California trying to shutdown police from shopping on Black Friday, as part of a nationwide effort demanding an immediate and lasting ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas war, as well as an end to U.S. aid for Israel.

    https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1728164706378989776