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By Ted Belman

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April 16, 2020 | 7,945 Comments »

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  1. Ted, I keep on getting booted off, when trying to log in. he error message seems to indicate that the problem is at your end — “database error”. I’ll be happy, if this message gets through.

  2. Palestinian Emirate Solution

    There is no clear and easy solution to the Israeli Palestinian Conflict.

    Nir Barkat has put himself into the camp of believing that Palestinian Emirates as Kedar has proposed for years is the most plausible solution. These would be autonomous Palestinian Tribal Entities run by an autocrat in each area. He says they could cooperate with each other if they wished but there would be no Palestinian State. In other words there would be an emirate each in Gaza, Jericho, Hebron, Nabulus, Jenin…..)

    Could this work? Israel would apply sovereignty to all Jewish Towns, Area C, Jordan Valley and any peaceful Arab Emirates in Area A could run their own affairs. The IDF would have overall security west of the Jordan River but the Emirates would be allowed to do their own city service type management (garbage collection, local policing, education).

    The Emir or leader of each tribe would be required to cooperate with the IDF and Shin Bet to ensure security in each entity. Peaceful entities would be allowed to send day workers to Israel. Non-peaceful Areas would end up under Israeli Martial Law and would lose autonomous status.

    As I started there is nothing perfect or easy or it long ago would have occurred.

    The Palestinian Authority is rapidly dissolving, they have stopped security cooperation with Israel. This was their main rational for being allowed to exist from an Israeli perspective.

    Terror in Judea/Samaria is up significantly. Israel is fighting the terrorists constantly and as Ben Gvir correctly says a major operation is needed to clean the dens of terrorism. So the following actions are needed:

    1. Wipe out Hamas, Fatah, Islamic Jihad terrorists and cells.

    2. Find & Work with a Tribal Leader in potential Pal Emirate to autonomously manage a certain specified area.

    The advantage of this Emirates concept is that Israel by itself works with a local tribal leader and no conferences or concurrence of any foreigner is needed. No USA, no EU, no Jordan………………etc.

    Will it work? I see no other immediate realistic ideas. The other alternative is the Civil Administration does all the work at great cost to Israel in many ways.

    If Jordan ever becomes a democracy ( I have serious doubts about this being viable) they could allow Palestinians to emigrate to Jordan who wished and bestow Jordanian Citizenship upon them. They could also give Jordanian Citizenship to any Arab living in one of the Emirates.

  3. @Honeybee I agree with you. I had another comment that just mysteriously disappear. Maybe it was system failure or maybe it was censorship as what I said was not to the liking of the publisher.

    Anyway I need to go make to more fruitful use of my time. This was an experiment if one could touch the holy grail of Mudar and Putin. Putin this time was touchable but the Mudar was too far for freedom of speech. Every publication has their limits. I’d like to say this was fun and fruitful but that would not be candid.

  4. Bear, Darlin, you need to go back into hibernation Or perhaps, Yellowstone where you can chase tourists

  5. @Peloni okay stay tuned. We have been staying tuned or not for what ten or fifteen years for Mudar’s predicted palace revolt and him taking over Jordan and the Jordan Option to solve the Israeli – Palestinian Conflict.

    None of the predictions have ever come true.

    King may indeed fall someday as it is a Monarchy and not overly popular. Will Mudar take charge if that happens. I do not believe it for a minute. Many people in Israel believe Mudar is nothing but a conman. A few like Ted do not.

    So stay tuned!

  6. @Bear

    You may want to play along

    I am not playing along with Mudar nor with you.

    Mudar’s tweet was a simple statement, and that statement was not false, which I believe was what I said. Your response to Ted’s sharing Mudar’s tweet was to ask him to fact check Mudar, following which you added a comment about Jill Biden and a list of guests, as if this proved Mudar’s statement was inaccurate. It was not inaccurate and as I noted, your fact check proved this point.

    In any event, I intend to ‘stay tuned’ as Ted suggests.

  7. @Peloni the Royal wedding in Jordan had attendees just like typical royal weddings and was well attended. Mudar was trying to put shade on it and this was very deceptive. You may want to play along, no matter to me with Mudar’s con game.

  8. @Bear
    Mudar did not say that no one attended the wedding, only noting the

    absence of world leaders and rulers of pivotal Arab countries such as Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Qatar, especially the absence of the US president, an ally of Jordan

    This was neither a deceptive statement nor a lie. It was, as evidenced by examination of your own list of attendees, quite an accurate description. Furthermore, rather than obscuring the fact that Biden’s wife was present, as seems to be among the points you raise in your comment, Mudar retweeted the fact that Jill Biden was present and did so 9 days prior to your own comment chastising Mudar for promoting lies and deceptions.

    Let us be quite frank, who among the list of attendees was a notable power broker? Perhaps it was wise that you pointed to Jill Biden as she is about the most significant of the lot of non-leaders of important nations and leaders of non-important nations who were present. Not a single leader of NATO, not the American ambassador to Jordan, not any of the prime ministers of Europe, not the titular rulers of any nation more significant than Jordan itself, and not anyone who might actually be considered to be a ‘world leader’ nor the ‘rulers of pivotal Arab countries such as Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Qatar’. The representatives and leaders who were present largely consisted of monarchs who do not rule more than their own family, and prime ministers from Arab nations who are notably among the weakest in the region. In fact, the wedding took place in Italy, and yet who from the Italian govt was present? It is quite notable that not one member of the Italian govt is listed in the article you cited nor anywhere else that I can find. Consequently, I would suggest with all due respect that your claim that Mudar’s statement is either false or deceptive is itself actually false, if not deceptive.

  9. @Ted, Mudar has provided made up information about the US Military Deployment. Mudar has told that Jordan is regime in a couple days every day for years. Nothing he has said has come true Ted.

  10. There was a large international military exercise in Jordan last year.

    Approximately 1,700 U.S. service members, 2,200 Jordanian Armed Forces, and 591 coalition personnel from 28 other partner nations are participating or observing the multilateral military training exercise, which was scheduled for 2021, but postponed due to the COVID 19 pandemic.

  11. @Ted, as usual Mudar’s tweets are deceptive at best or lies!! Why do you not fact check before posting his tweet. Example the Jordanian Wedding was well attended. Here is an article (one of many with the guest list). Jill Biden was there for one.

    The Royal Hashemite Court revealed the official guest list for Crown Prince Hussein and Princess Rajwa’s wedding on Thursday, and it included royalty from around the world as well as important Middle Eastern politicians and foreign officials.

    The wider Jordanian Royal Family attended, as did members of Queen Rania’s family, and members of the bride’s Al Saif family.
    Royal Hashemite Court

    Every royal house in Europe was represented except Monaco. The Prince and Princess of Wales attended their first royal wedding, as did Princess Elisabeth, Duchess of Brabant, who accompanied her father, King Philippe of the Belgians. King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima of the Netherlands attended the ceremony; Princess Amalia joined them for the evening reception. Scandinavia was represented by Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Princess Mary of Denmark, Crown Prince Haakon of Norway, and Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel of Sweden. Former King Juan Carlos of Spain attended the wedding, accompanied by Queen Sofìa.
    Royal Hashemite Court
    Royal Hashemite Court
    Royal Hashemite Court

    The Crown Prince of Bahrain and Sheikh Nasser bin Hamad; Queen Jetsun Pema of Bhutan and Princess Euphelma of Bhutan; the Sultan of Brunei and Prince Abdul Mateen of Brunei; Princess Takamodo and Princess Tsuguko of Japan; Sheikh Ahmad Al Abdullah Al Sabah and Sheikha Muna of Kuwait; the Hereditary Prince Couple of Liechtenstein and Prince Sébastien of Luxembourg; the King and Queen of Malaysia; Sheikha Moza of Qatar; and the Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi rounded out the international reigning royals.

    King Simeon II and Queen Margarita of Bulgaria, Crown Prince Pavlos of Greece, Princess Margareta and Prince Radu of Romania, and Empress Farah of Iran represented non-reigning royal houses.

    Prime ministers and presidents from throughout the Middle East—including Jordan, Iraq, and Egypt—and around the world attended as well. Dr Jill Biden represented the United States. Princess Beatrice and her husband, Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi, attended the wedding, as did Catherine’s family, Carole, Pippa and her husband, James Matthews.

  12. Mudar tweeted on June 4th: So far 31,000 views.

    US forces are deployed on the Jordanian side of the border with Israel…
    The American units completed their deployment at dawn today, and orders for the Jordanian army not to be present in the border areas without prior permission.
    Thousands of US troops have been stationed in Jordan since 2021 under the Jordanian-American military cooperation agreement

  13. MUDAR retweeted this tweet:

    A royal wedding and a political failure par excellence, with the absence of world leaders and rulers of pivotal Arab countries such as Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Qatar, especially the absence of the US president, an ally of Jordan, is evidence of confusion inside the palace and the failure to accept Prince Hussein as crown prince.

  14. In sensational upset, Israel downs Brazil 3-2 to reach U-20 World Cup semifinal This is Israel’s first time in the U-20 World Cup.

    If the USA beats Uruguay tomorrow, Israel and the USA will play in a semifinal match next week.

    Israel beating Brazil comes close to proving we are the Chosen People. A better analysis is that Israel played harder from the start of the game and was more of an organized team than Brazil. Brazil clearly has the more talented individual players.

  15. Mr. Zorn,

    Although we have never met except in this virtual world, I was sadden upon hearing of your mothers passing. I too offer my condolences. We all seem to have a very special connection with our mothers. May Hashem bring you much shalom in this time.

  16. Abed just tweeted:

    The Salmani monarchy will pay the political price for the reckless actions of Prince Muhammad bin Salman. The Saudi NEOM project is running into a dead end. And the Houthis are preparing to attack and overthrow the Salman monarchy, and the Syrians are preparing for a counter-revolution against Bashar al-Assad’s regime and the return of Aleppo under the rule of the Syrian opposition. Anyone who hugs Assad will pay a heavy political price

  17. SEV-

    Just now looking at the posts I see that you are bereaved of your mother. I offer my very deepest sympathy and a refuah shlema for your spirit…

    I know how it feels, as my Mother passed at 75 and for the previous 5-6 months I slept in a camp bed across her door praying like crazy.. To this very day it hurts.

    A mother is so special/. especially a loving mother.

    I wish you the very Long Life that is associated with your family.

  18. @ Michael Thank you. She was 98. Her cousin was 100. Yes from the early 70s. It’s how she brought me up. We never changed.

    She was very ecumenical when it came to religion but not politics. The first time Obama ran, she was very upset that I was thinking about not voting for Obama. Just like she was very upset when I was a pro -Pal activist though she eventually went along with the mainstream and when I said Trump moved tge embassy she thought it was a controversial issue. She didn’t know two congresses passed tge Jerusalem Embassy Act unanimously or almost unanimously and it was signed by two presidents, one democratic and one republican. It’s the law. NONE OF THEM KNOW THIS STUFF.

    You know, traditional pro-Israel liberals as well as the other kind are living in a bubble. To this day, I Never met one who ever heard of pay for slay or the Taylor Force Act.

    We are talking to ourselves, you know. I wonder if there is anything that can be done. They don’t even hear us. How’s that for distressing?

  19. Sebastien, I’m saddened to hear of the passing of your mother. This past year, I lost a sister, a nephew and a couple of old friends. This thoroughly disrupted my life, because we were quite close. When my sister was in a coma, my niece held the phone to her ear and I sang her Psalms 121. Just a few weeks later, that niece suddenly lost her husband. Life goes on, but it’s never the same.

    In the 1970s, I was much like your mother. I dabbled in Yoga, pagan mysticism, taoism, Islam, communism and every “new thing”. That was before the term “New Age” came into use. In 1973, I met Jesus Christ, and put away the other things.

    100 years! Wow! A blessed, long life! God bless and keep you and yours.

  20. My mother passed away Sunday morning 2 months before her 99th birthday. We have family in Samaria. Gil Leibowitz, her first cousin, of Karnei Shomron, died this year at age 100. He was an electronics engineer who made aliya in 1967. They grew up in Brooklyn.

    He worked on the first generation of automated planes, I guess we’d call them drones now, that saved the lives of Israeli pilots in 1973 by serving as decoys. He once told me he had 80 descendants. She died on the last day of Shavuot. I looked it up. I had been having this craving for cheesecake without knowing the connection. Cheesecake and matzoh ball soup. I’m diabetic so that’s not so good.

    She was a Jubu – Jewish Theosophist, Tibetan Buddhist Hindu yoga and mantra therapy, Chinese Gigong, holistic medicine and psychology, astrology, Sufi, Balinese mystic oriented. I guess you could say New Age though she rejected that label and when they asked her religion in the hospital time before last she just said, “universal” so they sent her a female reform rabbi. I read Kaddish and the Heart Sutra to her after she died at her side together with my three female first cousins and her grand-daughter (a friend she adopted as such) and my cousin chanted a Zen sutra. Funeral next Sunday with a reform rabbi who will accomodate whatever we want to do.

    I will also play the viola and a friend will sing and play the ukelele and everybody will have a chance to speak. And we will look at her parents’ graves nearby. Afterward, there will be a party at her house to celebrate her life.

    I opted to have her cremated and interred in a full size grave because Hindus and Balinese believe the soul must stick around and participate in the decomposition of the body, delaying their journey otherwise, but we won’t scatter her ashes. A little bit of this, a little bit of that. It’s what she wanted. I will go the same way and be interred next to her when the time comes. Her urn is a beautiful lavender urn I picked. Her favorite color.

    The cemetery was expensive but the funeral home is a non-profit on the Upper West Side dedicated to giving every Jew a Jewish burial and they were open memorial day weekend. Isn’t that nice?

    It’s so funny that but for them insisting on appeasing our mortal enemies, culturally and spiritually, my mother and I have more in common with the left. My mother was pro-Israel but it was painful for her to think about Jewish things aside from her universalist bent.

    She graduated college, class of 1945, and married a Jewish Holocaust survivor who left her after 20 years of marriage. He really hated religion, though his father was secular and his mother was the observant daughter of an Orthodox rabbi, so he was irreverent to begin with, basically a Hellenist, a real one, the book he chose to take with him in the labor camp was Epictetus. He wound up having a memorial service with a female Jewish Reform rabbi in 2011.

    Just babbling here. Feel free to disregard and move on. It’s 4:30 in the morning and I have to organize almost everything from here on out on site though my cousin did the heavy lifting up to now and had to fly back out of state with my other cousins who helped with research before flying back out until the day. I am alone in my mother’s apartment where I have been living, taking care of her for 4 years and soon it will be time to go.

    I met Gil at my sister’s memorial concert and cocktail reception in 1990. He flew in from Israel. I was very moved.

    With all of our diversity and Mishegas, we are family. I think Israelis are starting to recover from the recent madness and are remembering that. That’s just my impression.

    And now, back to the World Cup in soccer. Do Israelis call it football, like the Europeans or soccer like the Americans? “So many questions, so many reports”.

    I hope this doesn’t offend but Please don’t attack. I’m a bit fragile. Thinking of deleting this, anyway. Still, it was kind of cathartic to write this.

    Reposted with a couple of revisions after it was just marked as spam.

  21. @Sebastien
    I am quite moved by your comment here, and I am so sorry to hear of your mother’s passing. You have my deepest sympathies. I wish you well my friend.

  22. Israel has now made it to the quarterfinals of the U-20 World Cup in Soccer (Football). Highest ever achievement for Israeli National Soccer. They beat Uzbekistan with a goal in 97th minute (stoppage time).

  23. Posted by
    u/Actual-Obligation728
    2 hours ago
    Previously unknown drones were used for the attack on Moscow, against which EW tools are useless”: what is known about the attack on Moscow
    ? News, Articles, Blogs etc.

    Ì

    So, the first mass acquaintance of Muscovites with BpLA took place. It is a pity that it is not yet on the scale that the people of Kyiv would like after all the sleepless nights in May, but we believe in our developers and the Armed Forces. It should be “Moscow never sleeps”.

    The Typhoon plan has been implemented in Moscow and the Moscow region.” In total, up to 30 drones were involved in the attack, three of which hit houses in Moscow. It is reported that satellite navigation signals are being jammed in Moscow, this is due to the drone attack.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarRoom/?f=flair_name%3A%22%F0%9F%93%83%20News%2C%20Articles%2C%20Blogs%20etc.%22

    This is just the beginning.

  24. MUDAR RETWEETED THIS:

    The US Congress requested the formation of a delegation from a coalition of #????????_???????? forces to set a date to meet and discuss the Jordanian issue.
    Consultations are now taking place between the opposition forces to raise the names in writing.

  25. ABEDALELAH AMAALA TWEETED TODAY:

    The upcoming meeting of the Jordanian opposition delegation with the US Congress causes earthquakes politically in the midst of the Hashemite regime inside Jordan, and the unified Jordanian opposition regains its political activities and prepares to lay out its plan and political programs for the next and most important meeting in Jordan’s modern history.

    J.O. HERE WE COME.

  26. The Poles should not go there, but they did:
    Noa Kirel mentions the Holocaust – and raises a storm in Poland

    Poland’s Deputy Foreign Minister Pawe? Jab?o?ski tweeted, ““The fact that many people in Israel consider Poland to be an accomplice to German crimes – and not their victim – is often the result not so much of bad will as lack of knowledge and incomplete education.”

    You arrogant, insolent, condescending putz. The Poles were very much the accomplices of the Nazi’s taking their blood toll upon our people both before the Nazi hammer fell upon Poland and for a long time after the Germans left. To this day, the property acquired by Poles which had formerly been that of the now dead Polish Jews lies allocated to the arms of others without recompense to the few family members who survived the combined efforts of the German and Polish people to extinguish the Polish Jews from the earth. Your arrogance emboldens you to condescend to this young woman whose entire family nearly failed to escape the clutches of the Polish people, yet this is more than mere chutzpah, but rather a cynical attempt to intimidate we few remaining Jews into accepting your carefully crafted narrative in place of the true history which you yourself are responsible for failing to teach to your own children. And what might be that true history which your children will never hear from your own education: That as much of a victim which the Polish people became during the war, they themselves played a decisive role in obliterating the Jews from the ranks of the living, and these Jews who suffered and died under the management and participation of the Poles were themselves Poles. You murdered your own citizens precisely because you saw them from the same perspective as the Nazi’s did, so much so that the butcher bill upon the Jews continued for years after the Nazi’s fled the approaching Red Army. Indeed, you say that the Poles were not accomplices but merely victims, but you fail to mention that in this charade you paint, it was the Poles, themselves, who even hunted those Jews who were able to seek out refuge in the forests of your nation. The Righteous Gentiles who number among your forefathers stand as a testimony of what could have been achieved had these heroes whose decency and humanity marked them apart from the greater Polish society to which they were merely the exception. The actions of the Polish people stand as a testimony of their role in the Holocaust and shades your attempt to intimidate this young woman who only lives today because she is descended from the small fraction of her people which your people failed to eliminate during the calumnies which they took part in during, before and after the arrival of the Germans. As in Ukraine, it would be well if history were taught in your institutions rather than the carefully crafted, self-serving, fables which instantly absolve the Polish people in the crimes committed against our people, which of course does include the Holocaust, but not limited to it.

  27. Mudar tweeted on May 18/23.

    In the name of the great Jordanian people, we call on one of the brotherly Gulf countries to stop its excessive interference in the Jordanian issue, for that country’s leadership and people are dearer to our hearts and higher in stature than we put it in the category of the soon-fallen Ali Baba regime, towards the bottom of hell.
    Depart from our country, for your futile attempts to stop the wheel of fate have turned against you with regret and wrath from the higher powers, and those who warned have been excused.

  28. Trump Townhall with the Nasty Lady
    CNN was not ready for Trump, but Trump was ready for CNN. This was fantastic.

    The Looney Left are losing their minds over CNN having given Trump a forum, even an overtly biased forum, from which to connect to voters, which he clearly did during the many rounds of applause for his comments during the Townhall.

  29. This comment relates to the article discussing the proposed postponment of the demolition of the illegally built Arab village near Betlehem. Having seen the government drag its feet on this and similar issues, the Israeli public needs to ask itself if this is what they were asking for when they voted. If, on the other hand, the Supreme Court were blocking this and other decisions, the public has the right to expect the current coalition to fulfill the promises they made that got them elected. My understanding, maybe false but based on the headline, seems to point to the coalition trying to impede its own policies.

  30. Having seen the government drag its feet on this and similar issues, the Israeli public needs to ask itself if this is what they were asking for when they voted. If, on the other hand, the Supreme Court were blocking this and other decisions, the public has the right to expect the current coalition to fulfill the promises they made that got them elected. My understanding, maybe false but based on the headline, seems to point to the coalition trying to impede its own policies.

  31. @Ted @Linda When I was in school 30 years ago, being an anti-revisionist independent Marxist Leninist, I had to mentally compartmentalize three times over.

    First, the accepted view in the West was that one named a system after the ruling party, so countries ruled by Communist parties, even where they had named themselves Labor parties, Socialist parties, or something else, were Communist countries. which have always referred to themselves as Socialist countries because in the Marxist schema, Socialism is the transition phase in which the work of building towards Communism, the classless stateless society is continued by the representatives of the proletariat, i.e., factory workers, the Communist parties, led ideologically by renegade bourgeois who see their long-term class interests, because a) the bourgeoisie will not complete the work of simplifying society into 2 classes and creating so much abundance they put themselves out of business because they see what’s coming and make alliances with reactionary forces and put in place liberal reforms to freeze history in its tracks. And, left to their own devices, workers would just become anarcho-syndicalists, running things themselves, how dare they 😀 , Lenin said, good leaders are not born by the hundred,” and tge East German workers rose in revolt and were crushed in 1946.

    Second, the Marxist movement split in the early twentieth century under t ge ideological inspiration of Eduard Bernstein who preached a gradual movement towards socialism rather than violent upheaval as Marx had said could only happen in the United States because of the absence of a military industrial complex though he called it something else.

    This gave birth to the parties of the Second International which created Social-Democratic systems in Western Europe and Israel which became dominant after World War II. Bibi refers to Israel as a Socialist country he made free market reforms to starting when he was finance minister under Sharon. This movement was also informally divided between pure reformists and revolutionaries by the ballot box which strategy the CPUSA adopted after WWII.

    So, in Marxist circles, I/we used the term Socialist in the Marxist way, but in class in the ” bourgeois” way.

    Third, the Communist movement split between the anti-revisionists who opposed Kruschev’s and later Deng Shao Ping’s (and Gorbachev on steroids, though Gorbachev was inspired by the first market Communist, Bukharin) market reforms, and the anti-revisionists who looked to Enver Hoxha’s Albania as the last Socialist holdout, who said that making each enterprise having to pull its own weight in sales and calculating in terms of profit, was state-capitalism not Socialism.

    It should be noted that the “soft” left, i.e. Socialists in the Western sense used to be anti-Communist, and pro-Israel, as well. The hard left, have subsumed them, including the liberal churches, and now they are all “Progressives” another term they have subsumed, though they do have a lot in Common with Woodrow Wilson’s WWI America.

    And now, seemingly, nearly everyone, left and right, have adopted their definition.

    The left has been busy redefining the language and that,’s no accident as these are cultural Marxists with their roots in Gramsci and his successors.

    As Marx said,”The ruling ideology is always the ideolog.of the ruling class (except during revolutionary periods, I am paraphrasing)”

    Hence, I call welfare state capitalist Sweden, Denmark, Finland, the Netherlands, etc. Socialist and countries run by Marxist-Leninists, “Communist.”

  32. What is wrong with this picture:
    Court presses government to commit to eviction of illegal Arab outpost Khan al-Ahmar
    After 14yrs, the govt seeks yet another delay on the demolition of an illegal Arab outpost.

    Today’s hearing was another stage in the sixth petition against the Palestinian Authority outpost known as Khan al-Ahmar, located in the Adumim Region adjacent to Route 1, the main traffic artery connecting Jerusalem to the Jordan Valley, the Dead Sea and Israel’s eastern border.

    I don’t recall such a request being put forward by the govt prior to the razing of Or Chaim, an outpost commemorating the memory of Rabbi Haim Druckman.

  33. Jerry Springer just died but his legacy lives on as the whole society. It’s like the Star Trek episode: A Piece of the Action.