By Caroline Glick, FPM
In an interview with Haaretz in November 2010, British novelist Martin Amis said the following about discussions of Israel in his motherland:
I live in a mildly anti-Semitic country, and Europe is mildly anti-Semitic, and they hold Israel to a higher moral standard than its neighbors. If you bring up Israel in a public meeting in England, the whole atmosphere changes. The standard left-wing person never feels more comfortable than when attacking Israel. Because they are the only foreigners you can attack. Everyone else is protected by having dark skin, or colonial history, or something. But you can attack Israel. And the atmosphere becomes very unpleasant. It is traditional, snobbish, British anti-Semitism combined with present-day circumstances.
After participating last week in a debate in London about Israeli communities beyond the 1949 armistice lines organized by the self-consciously pretentious Intelligence Squared debating society, I can now say from personal experience that Amis is correct. The public atmosphere in England regarding Israel is ugly and violent.
The resolution we debated read: “Israel is destroying itself with its settlement policy. If settlement expansion continues Israel will have no future.”
My debating partner was Danny Dayan, the outgoing head of the Yesha Council.
We debated Daniel Levy, one of the founders of J-Street and the drafter of the Geneva Initiative, and the son of Lord Michael Levy, one of Tony Blair’s biggest fundraisers; and William Sieghart, a British philanthropist who runs a non-profit that among other things, champions Hamas. Levy has publicly stated that Israel’s creation was immoral. And Sieghart has a past record of saying that Israel’s delegitimization would be a salutary proces and calling for a complete cultural boycott of Israel while lauding Hamas.
We lost overwhelmingly. I think the final vote tally was something like 500 for the resolution and 100 against it.
A couple of impressions I took away from the experience: First, I can say without hesitation that I hope never to return to Britain. I actually don’t see any point. Jews are targeted by massive anti-Semitism of both the social and physical varieties. Why would anyone Jewish want to live there?
As to visiting as an Israeli, again, I just don’t see the point. The discourse is owned by anti-Israel voices. They don’t make arguments to spur thought, but to end it, by appealing to people’s passions.
For instance, in one particularly ugly segment, Levy made the scurrilous accusation that Israel systematically steals land from the Palestinians. Both Dayan and I demanded that he provide just one example of his charge. And the audience raged against us for our temerity at insisting that he provide substantiation for his baseless allegation. In the event, he failed to substantiate his allegation.
At another point, I was asked how I defend the Nazi state of Israel. When I responded by among other things giving the Nazi pedigree of the Palestinian nationalist movement founded by Nazi agent Haj Amin el Husseini and currently led by Holocaust denier Mahmoud Abbas, the crowd angrily shouted me down.
I want to note that the audience was made up of upper crust, wealthy British people, not unwashed rabble rousers. And yet they behaved in many respects like a mob when presented with pro-Israel positions.
I honestly don’t know whether there are policy implications that arise from my experience in London last week. I have for a long time been of the opinion that Israel shouldn’t bother to try to win over Europe because the Europeans have multiple reasons for always being anti-Israel and none of them have anything to do with anything that Israel does. As I discuss in my book, these reasons include anti-Semitism, anti-Americanism, addiction to Arab oil, and growing Muslim populations in Europe.
I was prepared to conduct a civilized debate based on facts and reasoned argumentation. I expected it to be a difficult experience. I was not expecting to be greeted by a well-dressed mob. My pessimism about Europeans’ capacity to avail themselves to reasoned, fact-based argumentation about Israel has only deepened from the experience.
One positive note, I had a breakfast discussion last Wednesday morning with activists from the Zionist Federation of Britain. The people I met are committed, warm, hardworking Zionists. I wish them all the best, and mainly that means, that I hope that these wonderful people and their families make aliyah.
While their work is worthwhile, there is no future for Jews in England.
@ salomoni:
Let’s just say that there have been a few tadpoles in the genitic pool
THERE IS MORE – 4O teachers attacked by PRIMARY school pupils daily
UK teaching unions say the figure could be an underestimate because staff are discouraged from reporting assaults for fear of damaging their school’s reputation (or fear of retaliation?). http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268492/Rise-violent-primary-pupils-40-teachers-attacked-day–secondary-schools.html
To be fair, all types and colors engage in violence in the UK. But it’s getting much worse, as society desintegrates due to the erosion of values in all social strata.
NOT SHOCKING ANYMORE – DIVERSITY CULTURAL ENRICHMENT OF THE UK CONTINUES –
– A British muslim who raped a 13-year-old girl he groomed on Facebook has been spared a prison sentence after a judge heard he went to an Islamic faith school where he was taught that women are worthless. Said he had been taught ‘women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground’ – http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html
– ANOTHER UK muslim who lured a vulnerable schoolgirl to a house for sex cannot be deported – because he is a member of a ‘persecuted tribe’. Jumaa Kater Saleh, 24, was convicted as part of a predatory sex gang for the ‘deliberate, targeted abuse of a young and vulnerable girl’, who was aged 13 at the time. But he was allowed to remain in Britain under human rights law because he faced mistreatment if sent back to Sudan. – http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html
They sure have the right priorities in issues of justice and compassion!
@ Honey Bee:
You are implying that jews are stupid! It is far, far, far…. from the truth. How could you say that if you pretend not being a racist or a jew hater???
@ Honey Bee:
@ salomoni
Amen, but if Jews invested with Madoff what does that say about their smarts
I like Caroline Glick. After living in Morocco as a dhimmi for 25 years ,after the rabid european antisemitism for centuries or millenias, I cannot help to be amazed that jews still think that Europe has changed. Wake-up people and smell the sewers: nothing has changed other than the holy existence of the State of Israel and its extraordinary IDF. What Israel must do is to put tremendous emphasis on education, R&D in sciences and compete and beat Europe in the asian markets were the future is. The West is morally bankrupt, corrupt and is not getting any better and Obama is changing America for the worst. Please come back home!!!
@ Debbie Rose:
Boycott the UK,cancel vacations etc Put your money where your mouth is Don’t get mad, get even Stop playing the victim
@ Sol Grazi:
I also watched the debate. I agreed with every word Glick said and I even share her anger. But she was angry. And whether we like it or not, how we present the information is as important, if not more important, than what we are actually saying.
The opposing side presented themselves as calm and reasoned. Doesn’t matter if they distorted the truth…they sounded credible. Glick came across as angry and belligerent. Out of an original count of 192 undecided, all of the 163 -except for two- who changed sides went to the other side.
Opportunities were lost. Too much focus was on the negative instead of highlighting the positive. For example, accusations of Nazism elicited angry bursts of ‘Shame on you!’ and retaliation with how the Arabs colluded with the Nazis. Nothing said would likely change the mind of the person who made the accusation but for all those who were undecided, the answer to this could have swayed them the other way. Instead, why not answer with how many hundreds of thousands of Palestinians are treated in Israeli hospitals, or how Israel continues to provide life essentials to the very people it is at war with…something unheard of anywhere else in the world and certainly not done by the Nazis. The same thing happened with the accusation that Israel isn’t a democracy…so much that is positive could have been said. The opportunity was lost. I didn’t hear one thing said in response that countered these ideas in a constructive way.
Having said that, the moderator was very agressive about keeping to time limits and both Glick and Dayan barely had a chance to say much of anything before being cut off. He did the same to the other side, but they already had the support of the majority of the audience.
We have to be smart about hasbara…righteous anger doesn’t work no matter how justified it is.
@ Chaim
Always bring a gun to a knife fight. In the USA we still have the 2nd ammedment. That silly old woman,Dianne Feinstein,is trying to rob us of Constitution Rights Not priviledge But Rights.
What is for public consumption is of no importance although it affects the daily life of the common Jew! What matters is what is said and done in private. There the people in power understand that antisemitism is irrelevant to the future of the Western world, likewise for India and China and other countries. Israel is not alone!
The Brits never forgot their expulsion from “Palestine” from the hands of these “damned Jews”.
“goyim” means “nations”, and was widely used when there was no State of Israel. By using “us Goyim” you claim to speak for all nations. I think not.
Even if you believe it means non-Jews, you do not speak for all such.
@ CuriousAmerican:
36 reply to Laura in moderation and my 29 comment still in moderation
@ Laura:
Glick said
I have read many of your comments on this site and I doubt that you would have expected what she says that she expected. She is one of the few decent writers representing zionists and Jewish settlement and in april she participates in a Jpost conference in NY. I would like to see her getting her act to a much higher level of competence if she is to participate in a debate for zionism and Israel. I know she is capable but she needs to do the homework and be prepared for a realistic situation. When the IDF goes into combat they cannot complain afterwards about having expected an enemy who followed rules or expectations.
Laura Said:
Here is what was naive, at best, or possibly a bit dishonest.
Bernard Ross Said:
Here is the reason I said it was naive or even dishonest
Bernard Ross Said:
However, as she knows modern history well then it is difficult to believe she is ignorant, or a fool, in that regard.
Perhaps she did not do her homework prior as she is spending a lot of time on her book. Although she should have the answers without prep., she left out the main points of the argument and took no advantage of great opportunities.
A shoddy performance. Her columns are much better but she often only identifies problems but not solutions(in detail) I have often complimented glick but she was caught napping in this venue and spent too much time selling her book. Dayan, as a choice is not worth discussing. The idiotic arguments, and dishonesty, they were against should have been a cake walk. A member of the audience was better than them.
@ Bernard Ross:
What’s naive about Caroline’s statement? She said she was pessimistic about Europe’s ability to reasoned, fact-based argumentation about Israel and that this experience only deepened that pessimism.
Why do we give a d**n what the the Brits and Euros think. When I was 7 someone wrote “dirty jews” with white chauk
all over our red brick garage. My Mother dressed me in my best dress and we went out and washed the words off. She said she dressed me up so “they” would know we were “clean people”. But, even at 7 I knew the “words” were not about my Mom’s house keeping. I find that we still, like my Mother, don’t “get it”.
@ CuriousAmerican:
In Texas we believe that high IQ does not mean smart. The intelligent are so easy to fool,Madoff was able to conn some of are most “intelligent” Jews.
It never hurts to be “miss-under-estimated”.
This is a naive statement unworthy of Glick. her historical knowledge is such that she is well aware of the duplicitous swindles and murderous strategies of the Europeans towards Israel and the Jews in modern history since Balfour. Only a fool would expect anything else. Know thine enemy and act accordingly. When one is able to see the europeans as thieving murderous jew killing nazis who have never varied from their despicable behavior to this moment, even during and after the holocaust, then one will not be surprised by their current behavior. At this moment they are funding and supporting jew killers and attacking jews where they can. The same brits who got up in the debate and accused jews of being nazis are jew killers in their hearts. War with the jew killers must be foaught in ruthless fashion without whining for their mercy. The arabs know how to do this. Only fool Jews keep repeating their masochistic errors. Hitler liked dogs, kissed babies and built the autobahn: Jews, wake the hell up, the euros are worse than the muslims!!!
When antisemitism reaches the pathological level, like in England, that should be the red flag for Jews to get there suitcases ready. It’s beyond me why Jews wait for the knife to be on the throat, before they wake up.
moderation # 29 comment
The first policy implication should be to match competence with the task, just as one does in a physical war. Further, know thine enemy, just as in a physical war. It is futile to whine about the enemy tactics when we have been seeing these tactics for years. when encountering the disingenuous in debate a good tactic is to turn the tables with facts and then shower the opponent with deserved derision taking care to make sure that not one shred of his future argument can be trusted. Seighart could have been demolished if glick or dayan had unmasked his starting map as being intentional, disingenuous and dishonest. From there they could have continued the attack by showing that Siegharts dishonest approach is the same as the media and international community. By leaving out 80% of the mandate territory which was given to the arabs his whole argument could have been demolished. Dayan who was next acted as if he had no speaker before him and gave a rambling political type speech with no focus and missing the golden opportunity which glick also ignored. Next, there was no mention of the broken agreements from the international community regarding their obligations to facilitate close settlement of jews west of the Jordan or even jewish rights to settle. Glick poorly presente the jewish rights instead as jews rights to settle anywhere in the world. This is foolish when there are so many legal cocuments to quote in their faces. This should have arisen, been used to show that Israel was restoring justice to a jewish people who have been, and continue to be, swindled, by the very thieving brits in the room. the nazi accusation should have been met first with derision and then proceeding to ridicule and demolish the speaker with preset day facts such as the fact that not one area of the former mandate territory controlled by arabs has any jews: JEW FREE ARAB APARTHEID IN ACTION TODAY and supported by finance and succor by the usual euro suspects. Instead of whining Israel needs to approach hasbara,legal rights and debate head on with professional cmpetency iin the same way as a physical war. Do not send a rambling non english speaker to a debate in English, damn stupid if you ask me. The enemy made many mistakes and these mistakes were not capitalized upon and demoshed by aggressive attacks containing facts. Too many thngs are absent fro Israeli debate which would have sway with foreigner. Israel should TODAY be demanding the fulfillliment of treaty rights and obligations from nations who signed San Remo, LON and UN carter regarding Jewish settlement. Israel should display anger and hostility at the continuing swindling from european con artists and demanding they withdraw support from jew killers. The fault is with glick, dayan and the israeli govt and citizenry. If one is owed a debt and that debt or obligation goes undemanded and unclaimed then one appears to be a fool to be swindled or a con artist with no claim. Is Israel the fool or the con artist? The europeans treat Israel as the con artist publicly while knowing privately that Israel is a fool to be swindled.
Sour grapes! If one is lazy, incompetent or negligent then I agree with the statement. However, as in physical war one cannot escape the damages resulting from losing the wars of hasbara, lawfare and debate.Therefore, stop whining and do a competent job. The strategies for these arenas are faulty and should be changed to one that is aggressive, pre emptive and grounded in kowledge as in physical war. Their is so much on Israels side in law and PR but it needs a competent strategy. If Israel waged physical warfare as it does the hasbara and legal it would have been destroyed years ago. Many israelis paint it as a worthless endeavor because they are losing the war; pretend that it does not matter, like a petulant child. That is silly as Israelis have to deal with the negative effects every day, so why not just take it seriously and win it. Current Israeli strategies of hasbara and law are incompetent and misdirected and characterized by self applause. The childish sketches of BB’s bomb and Danons refugee charts dont cut it. I never thought I would see the day when jews cant make it with their brain and have to rely on their brawn alone.
I have often complimented glick but she was caught napping in this venue and spent too much time selling her book. Dayan, as a choice is not worth discussing. The idiotic arguments, and dishonesty, they were against should have been a cake walk. A member of the audience was better than them.
Fisk explains the position of the Arab point of view rather well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGy7eikwcS8
I don’t think that a feeling of sympathy for the Arabs necessarily constitutes anti-Semitism. Fisk is sympathetic to the Arabs. I do not know that that makes him an anti-Semite.
However, the general trend on this board is that anyone who does not think that Naftali Bennett is a softie is anti-Semitic.
Then again, expulsion and expansion are the general opinions on this website. I suspect many here consider Likud to be anti-Semitic.
Andrew Said:
Where have you been for the last decade?!
You read the talkback comments in the Independent or the Guardian on any article on the conflict and the stuff is basically worse than you read on aljazeera talkback. On the subject of the Independent, I am starting to think that one of the worst enemies of Israel in the press is Robert Fisk. He never misses an opportunity to attack Israel.
Before you blame it all on Goy bankers, you should ask yourself if a number of the bankers are Jewish.
You would not state that because it might lessen the blame of us Goyim.
But on other sites, you can find very long lists of Jewish bankers; and these sites will tell you the Ponzi scheme is NOT being run by Christians.
After all, the head of the Federal Reserve, the biggest Ponzi Scheme in history, is Benjamin Shalom Bernake.
Unlike you Yamit – you seem to blame everything on us Goyim – I do not see this as so black and white.
High end banking demands a high intellect. Actuarial tests are rather ruthless. Idiots cannot calculate compound interest. They used to hire Physics PhDs to work on Wall Street to do wave analysis of market trends.
Mr. Bernake received 1590 out of a possible 1600 in the SAT.
So, I figure banking attracts high intellect larcenists from all ethnic groups. Groups with higher IQs will predominate in banking.
There is also a massive number of English in the banking world.
Anyhow, people in glass houses should not throw bricks. Before you blame the bankers, remember who many – I did NOT say all – of the bankers are.
But yes, it is a Ponzi scheme. Central Banking is vicious. Some say it was perfected by the House of Rothschild.
Go figure.
You really have lost all credibility. Do Christians “honor” murder their wives and daughters? Do Christians practice female genital mutilation etc.? Indeed you are a leftist infiltrator as one commenter on another thread said.
Are you insane?
Christian Fundamentalists do not put their women in burqas. They do not ask for sex segregation.
However Haredi do?
Gender segregation in Israel.
Be more afraid of Haredi Fundamentalists.
The Frumka issue.
Christian Fundamentalists are not anti-women, just anti-abortion.
CuriousAmerican Said:
Only if the American people wanted to wake up to a nightmare – and they didn’t. There is not much difference between the Christian Fundamentalist and the Islamic Fundamentalist treatment of Women.
And Romney’s ‘America of the Rich’ made 1984 look like a picnic.
“I’m your Hitler – vote for me”
ArnoldHarris Said:
We are basically on the same page and yes it’s a humungous Ponzi Scheme and the suckers will get burned but till it blows they are being enriched at Americas and American expense and when the dust is uncovered there won’t be much left to rescue to use an extreme metaphore it will be like scorched earth warfare. Buy real gold and store it in a safe place where nobody can get to it. Learn to farm because lawns will have no value in the future. We all gota eat. You might be needing those guns of yours to protect what you got.
The USA is obviously a commercial, industrial and military empire whose real power fades continually with each passing year. As someone who has lived the American life for all but two of my almost 79 years, I can see all but universal evidence of this contention. So the British, Germans, Chinese, Japanese, Gulf States, Saudi Arabia, French, and probably the Israelis as well have all bought, with eyes wide open, their own shares of a ponzi scheme that one day will be popped like a pricked balloon. Long-term unemployment in the USA continues to grow. The national debt continues to rise as the US government requires endlessly more money to pay for entitlements this country cannot afford and for government handouts of all kinds that are not backed by taxation or other forms of governmental revenue enhancement. There are many things with which I am not at all conversant. But I know a sinking ship, a failed business establishment or a shrinking commonwealth when I see one.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
America is heading down the same anti-Semitic road, led by our Jew-hating, Muslim-loving, terrorist-lauding, election-stealing President. And now that he sits in the White House for a second term, he is free to discard his pretensions and openly follow his anti-Israel, anti-Semitic agenda.
And still, many American Jews voted for Obama. As wiser men than I have pointed out, for many if not most American “Jews,” their real religion is not Judaism, but a perverted form of liberalism.
@ keelie:
Since the end of WWI The real Power of Britain has been their influence and some say control of American foreign policy. It’s London who controls Wall St. and not the other way round.
Americans will wake up one-day to find that most of their main assets of any value have been sold to foreigners and foreign governments.
Germans in vast tracts of farm real-estate, most of the big publishing houses and even the NYSE. The Japanese Industrial and commercial rea-estate and The Chinese everything, The Gulf States and Saudis have controlling interests in media and military industries. Bush even wanted to give the ports operation to Dubai companies. The British control Insurance and hedge funds concerns. The French Advertising companies.
The above is only the tip of the iceberg.
CuriousAmerican Said:
I doubt Romney would have won. Who pays attention to party platforms? And for “Jews” Israel is a non Issue or at least a minor one compared to other Germain normative issues of American Jews and Americans in general.
What must really gall the Limeys is that the lowly Jooos have a more powerful Army, more powerful air force, and (if the common wisdom is correct), a larger nuclear arsenal with better systems to deliver it. And at the rate that the UK is dismantling its navy, even Israel’s navy will be bigger than theirs.
The Brits had better be careful – they have a couple of very large bases on Cyprus that Israel could wipe out in a matter of minutes (without nukes), if they push their Jew-bashing too far.
comment in moderation.
@ Samuel Fistel:
Rabbi Nehorai says, in the generation of the son of David:
Young people shall shame the eldest
Old people shall stand to respect young people
Daughter will be against her mother, and daughter-in-law to her mother-in- law
The face of the generation shall be as a face of a dog
The son is not ashamed of his deeds in the face of his father
Rabbi Nehemia says, in the generation of the son of David:
Impudence (HUTZPA) shall become greater
The expensiveness shall become higher
And the rulers shall become against the Jewish tradition
Brits are quite willing to forget their sordid colonial past and replace those memories with lies about Israel – it assuages their own guilt for extensive ethnic cleansing and playing one people against the other for their own purposes over several centuries. A significant portion of the British upper crust were heavily with Hitler’s ideology prior to and during WWII and so the Haj Amin el Husseini arguments presented so well by Ms. Glick only brought back fond memories of dear relatives who held the same views. Canadian Otter is correct, the more Islamists we allow in the more we become susceptible to their violent approaches which leave the average Westerner confused and with his/her head in the sand or up his/her butt rather than dare to make a stand against spreading Islamism. The unfortunate thing is that the audience Glick confronted were quite polite when compared with the average Canadian or American campus audience these days. We have Muslim Brotherhood and people directly connected to Iran busing people into Israel Apartheid Week (year-long) rallies to drown out the slightest chance to engage in debate. Israel does little to empower the real activists but would rather work with the mainstream Jewish groups that sometimes behave like J-Street; they work to remain silent and in control over the messages and they step on the toes of real activists for fear Jews will learn what is taking place and then stop donating or ask for real action instead of sha-shtil.
You should have linked to the controversial vote that you were referring to.
The Democratic Party National Convention 2012 – Jerusalem Voice Vote
This was insane.
I did not believe it when I first saw it.
I did not know whether to be madder at the Democratic Party for voting NO
or madder at the Democratic Party Leadership for dishonestly ignoring the
voice vote, and changing it to YES.
Commentary on the Voice Vote
Had that Democratic Leadership been honest and acceded to their party members’
wishes and left it at NO, then Romney might have won.
And bye bye Canada?
Canada to resettle 5000 Iran and Iraq refugees now in Turkey. Refugees will be relocated by 2018, and will help Canada get closer to its pledges to resettle up to 20,000 Iraqi refugees. http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/canada/canada-to-resettle-5-000-refugees-in-next-three-years-336381.html
This is in addition to other asylum seekers and large number of legal immigrants from Muslim countries.
The mastermind of the Morocco massacre is said to be a Canadian Muslim.
Canadian Muslims getting radicalized – http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/01/canada-jihadists-radicalizing-peaceful-muslims-at-mosques-and-large-number-of-venues.html
Laura Said:
AND MORE! MUCH MORE…
How can Britain call itself mildly anti-semitic when it has always been very anti-semitic, in fact anti-anything to do with Jews and Israel. Now it has again stamped its authority over Australia by dragging Australian politics into the same Israel bashing policies that the British have practised for 100 years.
I’ve just been reading a little about Lexington and Concord, and the mindless and arrogant British attitude upon which the Brits based their strategic approach to the Rebels.
Seems to me, from what Caroline Glick says, that same attitude is still strong in Britain, except for one thing: The Brits have no clout, and little money for forcing international issues. Realizing this deep down, all the “upper class” Brits can do is mindlessly bluster and become irrational – while, of course, reminding us threateningly of exactly “who they are”. We know exactly who and what they are, and we see from this article that they no longer have the intellectual incisiveness or the power to back up their claims to any form of superiority, or to force the Jews to back down on what are purely Jewish issues.
In other words, when we stand back and take a good look at the condition of Britain as well as the rest of Western Europe, it’s becoming obvious that to a great extent “we’ve won”. Now it’s time to consolidate our position.
sounds like they were some kind of group, obviously not a cross section of the population. There are many people in Britain that support Israel but we are unlikely to be asked to attend such a debate. We get just as annoyed with such ridiculous opinions. However please dont write the people of Britain off because lots of us do our best to put the true story across to people in our country. You have observed a group of radicals ,not the average British person.Israel needs to get the truth across and not give up on us. The christian population is also very supportive of Israel.
Being an Englishman and a Christian but living in the Netherlands I’m am ashamed at the way that the UK and Europe treat the Jewish people, sadly history repeating itself, for you moving to Israel I say be blessed a may you stay safe, for you that are remaining in the EU I continue to pray for you, G-d bless you
Jewish Israel: Bye-bye England and the EU, and soon to come: Democratic America
The liberals, in firm control of England and the EU, are delusional, fanatical Jew-haters. Just 70 years after their Jew-hating christian fathers slaughtered six million European Jews, they have assuaged their guilt by declaring that Jewish Israel is the “most sinister threat to world peace on earth”, by far outstripping Iran, North Korea, and militant islam. They insist that Israeli Jews are “the real Nazis”, and that the savage, primitive palestinian muslims are “the real jews”. They fully support the extermination of Jewish Israel by the muslims, using the Orwellian term “peace process.” Simultaneously, out of some strange, delusional “white guilt”, they are committing suicide in their own countries by aborting their own children and replacing them with imported muslims living on welfare.
The Democratic party in America shares identical outlook and values. They have now become the permanent majority in America, winning over 50% of the vote for president, as well as both Houses of Congress. The Democrats pointedly left out a statement in their platform supporting Jewish Israel, and at their convention, voted against putting it in; but were overruled by their old-school “leaders”, who are currently dying off and being replaced by younger, outright european-style Jew haters.
Laura Said:
Movie time!
I saw the debate in its entirety. If the judges (the audience) were truly impartial, Glick and Dayan, using logic supported by facts, would have won in a walk. If broad and unsubstantiated generalizations are the true grist for debate, then Levy and Seighart should have taken the day. Apparently the rules of debate have changed. It reminds me of the debates of old when rabbis (Ramban comes to mind) would debate Christians over the validity of one over the other. A losing proposition. The same people the same theme, or as they say,”Quelle change quelle meme chose”.
Tighten your seat belts. Were in for a stormy year.
Have you seen the video of sharia enforcers in London? Enjoy your bright future under sharia law, Britain. You have chosen millions of jihadists who wish to destroy your country over civilized, law-abiding, productive and peaceful Jews. How’s that workin out for you, Brits? You deserve everything you are getting.
The relatives on my side of the family who lived in the UK have all packed up and moved to Israel.
Most of the relatives on my wife’s side – not so smart.
🙂