By John F. Burns, New York Times
Faced with growing alarm about Islamic militants who have made Britain one of Europe’s most active bases for terrorist plots, Prime Minister David Cameron has mounted an attack on the country’s decades-old policy of “multiculturalism,” saying it has encouraged “segregated communities” where Islamic extremism can thrive.
Speaking at a security conference in Munich on Saturday, Cameron condemned what he called the “hands-off tolerance” in Britain and other European nations that had encouraged Muslims and other immigrant groups “to live separate lives, apart from each other and the mainstream.” He said that the policy had allowed Islamic militants leeway to radicalize young Muslims.
In what aides described as one of the most important speeches in the nine months since he became prime minister, Cameron said the multiculturalism policy – one espoused by British governments since the 1960s, based on the principle of the right of all groups in Britain to live by their traditional values – had failed to promote a sense of common identity centered on values of human rights, democracy, social integration and equality before the law.
Similar warnings about multiculturalism have been sounded by Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany and by President Nicolas Sarkozy of France. But, if anything, Cameron went further. The head of the Conservative Party, called on European governments to practice “a lot less of the passive tolerance of recent years and much more active, muscular liberalism,” and said Britain would no longer give official patronage to Muslim groups that had been “showered with public money despite doing little to combat terrorism.”
Perhaps most controversially, he called for an end to a double standard that had tolerated the propagation of radical views among nonwhite groups that would be suppressed if they involved radical groups among whites.
“When a white person holds objectionable views – racism, for example – we rightly condemn them,” he said. “But when equally unacceptable views or practices have come from someone who isn’t white, we’ve been too cautious, frankly even fearful, to stand up to them.”
Muslim groups in Britain were quick to condemn the speech, among them the Muslim Council of Great Britain. Its assistant secretary-general, Faisal Hanjra, said Cameron had treated Muslims “as part of the problem as opposed to part of the solution.”
The function performed by the Islamic leaders and scholars is a unity unlike any other…they unify in hate to jihad and global conquest. They continue teaching their children to hate the kufirs, thereby keeping their identity strong and against their host country. It is only ignorance and antisemitism that Oatmeal can liken this to Jews; when have Jews risen to destroy their hosts? (about 11 million Jews worldwide to more than 1-1/2 billion Arabs…do the math)
In every country they’ve lived in, Jews have increased trade, education, and culture, earning Nobel prizes for their contributions to society as a whole. Islamic societies produce death…their religion supports death, suicides, shrouding their women, stoning, rape, decapitation, amputation.
Jews been the quiet minority in every country, whereas Muslims are out-producing their host country in children, advocating conquest in accordance with Sharia law. it’s your ignorance, Oatmeal, that’ll keep you from understanding the enemy and being subjugated by it. Unhampered, Jews have only added to the societies in which they live, rarely on the dole and helping their own in times of trouble (this is history). Muslims are on the dole in most countries and are breaking the budgets of England, Germany, the Netherlands… read before you talk, Oatmeal. You might learn something. Muslims, for the most part, want to spread their culture to the hosts, just as they want to set up a caliphate on Ground Zero.
Put another way: Our tolerance of their intolerance is not tolerance, but culture annihilation. If the West does not stand up to spreading Islam, they will Islamize the world.
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The speech was made in Munich, to please Merkel by taking her line – Cameron did used to be a shallow PR man, after all. Over here Cameron doesn’t want to risk losing ANY Muslim votes. Nothing will change.
“Muslim groups in Britain were quick to condemn the speech, among them the Muslim Council of Great Britain. Its assistant secretary-general, Faisal Hanjra, said Cameron had treated Muslims “as part of the problem as opposed to part of the solution.”
Can someone, maybe even Hanjri himself, please enlighten me as to how muslims are part of the solution? Bear in mind that in the majority of places where terrorism or political upheaval occurs, muslims are involved.
BlandOatmeal: “And they (the muslims) (my insert) are not held together by symbols. They are held together by family ties, family ties and family ties.”
The muslim family ties seems to be a fanatically strange, demonic thing. How else would you explain how mothers and fathers and siblings rejoice when a muslim blows himself up, and others of course, for (a) their god (b) to receive a reward of many virgins and heaven knows whatever else. The suicide bomber is revered by celebrations in his/her honour and family members express their huge pride that their “loved” one has blown himself and others up. Strange, weird, wicked and demonic in my opinion and I thank God (the real, live One) that He does not require such of me.
“Muslim groups in Britain were quick to condemn the speech, among them the Muslim Council of Great Britain. Its assistant secretary-general, Faisal Hanjra, said Cameron had treated Muslims “as part of the problem as opposed to part of the solution.”
What Hanjra has said here above is exactly how muslims distort facts, in your face facts, and for more than 40 years decision makers have swallowed their lies and deceptions hook, line and sinker. Unfortunately for the
citizens of those countries with such stupid leaders, they are the ones who will eventually suffer the consequences, it is already happening as Bill Levinson has shown with just two of the many, many instances that have
occurred. UK, the rest of Europe and USA NEED TO WAKE UP! STOP VOTING FOR POLITICIANS WHO WILL NOT, OR CANNOT (read BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA) TAKE DECISIVE ACTION TO STOP THE PROBLEM (read Muslims) IN ITS TRACKS! I believe that it’s not too late YET!
I guess separate but equal did not work out better for them than it did for Americans.
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The Ethnic cleansing of non muslims from Luton Town(UK) continues while the political leaders turn Quisling and Media 4th Estate becomes a 5th column
Ta-ta, Europe
“The Greeks’ ever-more powerful demand for beauty, for festivals, entertainments, new cults really grew from a lack, from deprivation, from melancholy [and] from pain.” (Friedrich Nietzsche)
Maybe but the West is a better example of civilization based on cultural Hellenistic synbolisms expressed through their art.
Idolatry, Blasphemy & Art
Thus Jeremiah’s warning to husbands who follow their wives in exile and “burn incense to the queen of heaven,” a paradigm of image-worship in many cultures. In the attempt to play or bind G-d, individuals find horror: Dr. Jekyll brings forth Mr. Hyde; Victor Frankenstein his monster and Aphrodite, who contains a horror brings forth panic and terror. Image-work is a war on the cultural body, on perception and life itself.
Hebraic proscriptions of the closely linked idolatry and blasphemy pertain to human attempts to understand and align their consciousness with the Creator and creation; they also suffuse all forms of society, interpersonal relationships and identity. For failure to heed these injunctions, for glorifying what it should proscribe, the West is confounding itself and the world in a realm of shadows till it “consumed with bewildering terrors” like the combatants in the dark cold mists of the apocalyptic twilight battle in which all elements and allegiances dissolve in the West’s core Romance. Idylls of the King is aptly named for it contains a fundamental critique of what it cannot help celebrating: the attempt to organize a society around idealized images that, detached from life, invariably disappoint and disillusion.
Israel will thrive if it can become itself: “a nation that dwells apart… secure; even his heavens shall drip with dew.” It will attain its identity when and if it distinguishes itself from the image-project of the hybrid and Dionysian West: when Jacob expels from himself the dazzling and insidious imperialism of Esau. Read More
Keelie, you said,
Not really. The Islamic leaders and scholars perform a function in Moslem society similar to that performed by the Christian Bishops and monks in Medieval West European society. They provide a semblance of order and stability during times of crisis.
It’s curious, that on this Jewish website the posters should be concerned with the lack of Moslem ASSIMILATION into what’s left of a Christian culture — when the Jews themselves have fought tooth and nail for centuries against that very same assimilation. Ze’ev Jabotinsky correctly chastised his fellow Jews, for their belief that the Arabs would quietly accept Israeli sovereignty in Palestine. He said, very correctly, that it was an insult to the Arabs to assume such a thing. It is NATURAL, said Jabotinsky, for a people to resist being taken over by another; and I agree with him.
If the Europeans want to be able to resist the Moslems, they need to first decide what it means to be a European. Does it mean a people with Christian values, formed by some 1900 years of European history? Or does it mean the latest philosophies, which have a way of flip-flopping at least once a generation? They cannot decide right now, so they will fail. The Quebec separatists have also noticed this about the Anglo-Canadians. They said,
“We know who we are. It’s up to the English, to decide what they are.”
HItler tried to unify the Germans on a pre-Christian, pagan motif. He failed. The Communists also tried and failed. Neither Communism nor Fascism hold a candle to Islam for its staying power, nor to Christianity and Judaism.
Jabotinsky was right. Listen to him. The Moslems will not keel over and die for our benefit; and it’s an insult to them, to suggest they will. And they are not held together by symbols. They are held together by family ties, family ties and family ties.
What Bob says is precise and to the point. Most likely a combination of arrogance and stupidity have resulted in an amazing level of overconfidence, because they have totally underestimated the perceptiveness of the untermenschen: the kuffar.
A good way to start – and perhaps as Shy Guy says, it’s too late – would be to destroy their symbols, because symbols are all that the Muslims have. I’ll leave it to everyone to figure out exactly what the main symbols would be…
Bob, you might appreciate this latest Jihad Watch article:
We Regret to Inform You
Frankly, I’m not sure the rebellion you hope for will come on time.
Muslims Strategists could never have seen the effect of their behavior. Thay have revealed their intentions too early, and large sections of the public are “on to” them and know what their game is, even if the ruling elite do NOT want to deal with it on their watch.
The Muslims will unite the native population of Europe in a way that the Single Currency or the EU never would have. What we need now is a real leader (and I do not mean Van Rumpoy) Oil or no oil we are going to stand up against the Muslim juggernaut