The value of actor Ben Affleck’s recent outbursts in defense of Islam on HBO’s Real Time is that here, in one 10-minute segment, we have all the leftist/liberal bromides used whenever Islam is criticized.
In what follows, Affleck’s main arguments are presented and then discredited.
Relativism and the Islamic Heterogeneity Myth
Ben Affleck, in his worst performance since Gigli
At the start, when author Sam Harris began making some critical remarks concerning Islam, a visibly agitated Affleck interrupted him by somewhat sarcastically asking, “Are you the person who understands the officially codified doctrine of Islam? You’re the interpreter of that?”
Affleck was essentially arguing that really no one is qualified to say what is or is not Islamic, since all Muslims are free to interpret Islam anyway they want. This notion has less to do with how Islam is practiced and more to do with Western relativism, specifically the postmodern belief that there are no “truths,” that everything is open to individual expression. Thus even if an Islamic sheikh from Al Azhar University were to tell Affleck that the criticism leveled against Islam were true, the actor would no doubt reply, “Fine, that’s your opinion, but I know that most other Muslims disagree.”
The fundamental mistake in this position is that it places Muslims on a higher pedestal of authority than Islam itself (even though muslims are by definition “ones who submit” to islam, which is “submission” to Allah’s laws). Islam is based on the law, or Sharia — “the way” prescribed by Allah and his prophet. And Sharia most certainly does call for any number of things — subjugation of women and religious minorities, war on “infidels” and the enslavement of their women and children, bans on free speech and apostasy — that even Affleck would normally condemn.
In short, Sunni Islam, which approximately 90% of all Muslims follow, is far from heterogeneous. It has only four recognized schools of jurisprudence, and these agree over the basics, with only minor differences over detail. Even in the other 10% of Islamic sects, most of which are Shia or Shia offshoots, one finds that when it comes to intolerant aspects, they too are in agreement. For example, while all Islamic schools of law prescribe the death penalty for leaving Islam, some argue that female apostates should “only” be imprisoned and beat until they embrace Islam again.
The ‘Racism’ Card
When Bill Maher, the host of Real Time, asked “But why can’t we talk about this [Islamic issues]?” Affleck shot back with, “Because it’s gross, it’s racist.”
This meme is as common as it is absurd and does not deserve much rebuttal. Suffice to say that Muslims are not a race. There are Muslims of all nations, races, and ethnicities — from sub-Saharan Africans to blonde haired, blue-eyed Europeans. Yet many apologists for Islam, including congressmen and congresswomen, habitually rely on this lie — I won’t even deign to call it an “apologetic” — simply because accusing someone of being “racist,” in this case, critics of Islam, is one of the surest way of shutting them up.
Conflating Muslim Teachings with Muslim People
At one point, after the other speakers made certain statistical points, Affleck made the following outburst, to much applause: “How about the more than a billion people [Muslims], who aren’t fanatical, who don’t punish women, who wanna go to school, have some sandwiches, pray five times a day, and don’t do any of the things you’re saying of all Muslims. It’s stereotyping.”
Islamic law clearly teaches that those who abandon Islam … are to be executed.
Again, Affleck conflates the actions of people — Muslims — with the teachings of a religion — Islam. Going back to the apostasy example, Islamic law clearly teaches that those who abandon Islam — including as the world recently saw, one pregnant Christian woman, Meriam Ibrahim — are to be executed. One can therefore say that Sharia calls for the death of apostates.
But can one say with similar certainty that every single Muslim alive today believes that the apostasy penalty should be upheld? Obviously not. Yet this is not a reflection of Islam; it is a reflection of individual human freedom — a freedom that ironically goes against Islamic teaching.
Nonetheless, this conflation of Islam with Muslims is an all too common approach used to shield the former from criticism. (See this 2007 video where I respond more fully to this question from a concerned reporter.)
Historical Revisionism
Next Affleck argued: “We’ve killed more Muslims than they’ve killed us by an awful lot, and we’ve invaded more Islamic nations.”
Aside from essentially suggesting that “two wrongs make a right,” his assertions reflect an appalling acquaintance with true history — thanks of course to the ingrained lies emanating from academia, followed by Hollywood and the media.
Reality records a much different story. From its inception, Islam has been a religion hostile to all others. Jihad was its primary tool of expansion.
Consider: A mere decade after the birth of Islam in the seventh century, the jihad burst out of Arabia. Leaving aside all the thousands of miles of ancient lands and civilizations that were permanently conquered, today casually called the “Islamic world” — including Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and parts of India and China — much of Europe was also, at one time or another, conquered by the sword of Islam.
Among other nations and territories that were attacked and/or came under Muslim domination are (to give them their modern names in no particular order): Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Sicily, Switzerland, Austria, Hungary, Greece, Russia, Poland, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Lithuania, Romania, Albania, Serbia, Armenia, Georgia, Crete, Cyprus, Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Macedonia, Belarus, Malta, Sardinia, Moldova, Slovakia, and Montenegro.
In 846 Rome was sacked and the Vatican defiled by Muslim Arab raiders; some 600 years later, in 1453, Christendom’s other great basilica, Holy Wisdom (or Hagia Sophia), was conquered by Muslim Turks.
The few European regions that escaped direct Islamic occupation due to their northwest remoteness include Great Britain, Scandinavia, and Germany. That, of course, does not mean that they were not attacked by Islam. Indeed, in the furthest northwest of Europe, in Iceland, Christians used to pray that God save them from the “terror of the Turk.” These fears were not unfounded since as late as 1627 Muslim corsairs raided the Christian island seizing four hundred captives, selling them in the slave markets of Algiers.
Nor did America escape. A few years after the formation of the United States, in 1800, American trading ships in the Mediterranean were plundered and their sailors enslaved by Muslim corsairs. The ambassador of Tripoli explained to Thomas Jefferson that it was a Muslim’s right and duty to make war upon non-Muslims wherever they could be found, and to enslave as many as they could take as prisoners.
In short, for roughly one millennium — punctuated by a Crusader-rebuttal that people like Affleck are obsessed with demonizing — Islam daily posed an existential threat to Christian Europe and by extension Western civilization.
Yet today, whether as taught in high school or graduate school, whether as portrayed by Hollywood or the news media, the predominant historic narrative is that Muslims are the historic “victims” of “intolerant” Western Christians. That’s exactly what a TV personality once told me live on Fox News.
Final Recourse: Justifying the Apologetics
Towards the end, a frustrated Affleck, unable to respond, exclaimed, “What is your solution? To condemn Islam? To do what?”
These are interesting questions in that they reveal the true position of the apologist. I have encountered this phenomenon often, most memorably in a public debate with Columbia professor Hamid Dabashi. Towards the end of the debate, he declared “You can sit here and talk about jihad from here to doomsday, what will it do? Suppose you prove beyond any shadow of doubt that Islam is constitutionally violent, where do you go from there?”
The clash of civilizations is already upon us; and it is not a product of Western “bigotry,” but of Islamic teaching.
What this line of reasoning suggests is that the apologist believes there is no other recourse than to be an apologist; that the best policy is to ignore Islam’s violence and intolerance, since the alternative — open acknowledgement — will lead to something worse, a clash of civilizations. War. And that must be avoided at all costs — so let us pretend.
What such apologists fail to recognize is that the clash of civilizations is already upon us; and it is not a product of Western “bigotry” but Islamic teaching. Whether we acknowledge it or not, here it is.
The reason apologists can get away (for now) with their reasoning is because the U.S. is ostensibly immune from Islam — so they can spin and pass off feel-good fables about Islam all they want.
Yet all the while, time progresses, Islam keeps marching and gaining ground, until the clash begins anew in earnest, as it did for centuries until Islam was beaten on the battlefield by the West in the modern era. And when the Islamic world is finally in a position to unleash an earnest global jihad, when the “Islamic State” phenomenon appears all around the world — already people are being beheaded by Muslims in America and Europe — posterity will look back with great bitterness at the inaction and naivety of their Western predecessors who might have nipped the problem in the bud if they had only spoken truth — and implemented policies based on truth.
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And there it is. Whether projecting Western intellectual maladies such as relativism onto Muslim teachings and persons; whether mindlessly crying “racist!” whenever Islamic teachings are criticized; whether confusing the matter by conflating the actions or beliefs of some Muslims with the actual black-and-white teachings of Islam; whether turning history upside its head by turning persecutors into victims and victims into persecutors; or whether, after being backed into a corner, exclaiming that one has no choice but to apologize as true speak will make things worse — in a nutshell, Ben Affleck’s few minutes on Islam nicely summed up the Islamic apologetics game.
In the end, of course, Affleck may be excused. He’s just a simple actor and not expected to know much outside of the realm of pretense. The truly guilty ones are all those Americans in political positions whose job requires them to be honest with the American people but who continue to act — to lie — about Islam.
Raymond Ibrahim is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center, a Judith Friedman Rosen Writing Fellow at the Middle East Forum and a CBN News contributor. He is the author of Crucified Again: Exposing Islam’s New War on Christians (2013) and The Al Qaeda Reader (2007).
The only consideration that is important to me is for Israel and the Jewish nation to get back the entirety of the lands from which our people were despoiled and driven out over the past three millennia. I am not interested in arguing with anyone about the right of the Jewish nation to rebuild the Jewish commonwealth. In any case, I think anti-Semites hate weak Jews and they fear the power of strong Jews.
As you can tell from comparing all my comments that I have made on Israpundit over the past few years, I never change my focus, which is the Jewish national imperative to take back, if necessary, by armed force, the whole of Eretz-Yisrael. All the land is ours by right, and if that is not so, then we are entitled to none of it at all. And if the Arabs decide to keep the Jew-hating wars going indefinitely, then I was Israel to turn that condition into a valid reason to take ever more land, and drive the bastards back into the deserts or inhabitants of Arab ghettos in Europe.
In any case, I never have been interested in why Jew-haters think think the way they do. Because I don’t want to negotiate peace with enemies. I just want to whip their asses. When I was a kid in Chicago back in the 1940s, there were anti-Semites in the schools and streets who would try physical assault. That’s when I learned how to fight back and to hurt them. The truth is, nothing ever pleased me more than seeing the utter astonishment in a guy’s face when he got slugged by a Jew. As for parental discipline, my own father, a tough guy who had served in the US National Army in the American Expeditionary Force in France in 1918, never instructed me to turn one cheek or another to anybody at all. Which was good, because he was the one parent from whom I learned life’s lessons.
I’m not sure if other folks understand people like me. But even if they don’t, I won’t lose any sleep over it.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
@ Eric R.:
@ ArnoldHarris:
Mr. Harris, you cannot shame these Jew-haters out of their hate any more than you can shame them out of their Marxist beliefs. It is at the core of their being. They live in a world with fellow Marxo-Nazis (both in the arts and elsewhere in the Euro-Marxo-Nazi media) whose belief in the evilness of Israel and Jews is bedrock and unshakeable. If you protest or boycott, they dismiss the protesters as “Zionazis” and claim that this is all due to excessive Jewish influence in America and they use it a pretext to become even more fanatical Jew-haters.
They have a big market to peddle their Marxism and Jew-hatred; even if it does not sell in most of America, it does sell amongst large segments of the American left, as well as amongst a majority of the 400+ million people in the EU and the vast majority of 1.7 billion Muslims.
Frankly, unless the Mossad or Shin Bet were willing to eliminate them (and make them fear for their lives – a tactic the Jihadists use to silence criticism of Islam), you will not stop these filthy, Nazi scum.
“There is neither less nor more reason to give credence to the political opinions of an actor than to those of an accountant, or a physician, or a mechanic, or a restaurant chef, or a building contractor, or a bus driver, or a lawyer, or a basketball player, or a math teacher, or a cosmetician, or an architect, or a fireman, or an engineer. . . .
“There’s really no reason to be especially attentive to (OR scornful of) the political opinions of ANYBODY purely on account of livelihood unless you think his livelihood, by its nature, makes him especially knowledgeable about politics (and even then, there’s no assurance that his discernment & probity will match his knowledge of the matter).
“There’s no denying the fact that the performing arts do tend to be dominated by an extraordinarily shallow elite, and that the attitude of superficiality does tend to trickle down to those on their way up (if they want to get anywhere)
“— yet I seriously doubt that any occupational group has the market cornered when it comes to political airheads.”
My thoughts exactly. Well said!
@ Eric R.:
Eric, granted that you undoubtedly are correct about the opinions of all three British actors.
But the operative question is what do you think should be done about all of this, with actions that would achieve any or all of the following yardsticks of usefulness:
1) The actors in question would be shamed into making public apologies for their anti-Jewish, or anti-Israel thoughts and public comments.
2) Worldwide anti-Semitism would lose some level of credibility in their endless war against the Jewish state and Jewish nation.
3) A significant number of public personalities would issue pro-Jewish and/or pro-Israeli statements to counter-balance any harm done to the same by the hate Israel and hate the Jews campaign.
And please, nothing about capturing the moral high ground or any other such pablum. I am interested solely in actions that increase Israel’s ability to defend Eretz-Yisrael and the interests of the Jewish nation and Zionist movement.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
@ ArnoldHarris:
Gary Oldman is not alone among British actors in his virulent Nazi Jew-hatred; it is quite common amongst the Limeys. Emma Thomson and Vanessa Redgrave come to mind as well, although there are a number of others. It is not commonly reported by the liberal media, but it is not really a secret that this is a major source of tension with Americans in Hollywood (and not just Jews), who generally do not share their hatred. This is also what helped to drive playwright David Mamet to the right.
I repeat much of what I commented earlier on this topic. Ben Affleck is a talented screenplay actor who makes relatively good and presumably money-making films. And that is all that I know about him, and all that I ever shall wish to know about him.
How could this be otherwise? Onscreen, Mr Affleck expresses thoughts and emotions written explicitly for him to emote in conversations with other actors and actresses for purposes of making screen plays that people will pay to watch. That, and nothing else, is what he is paid to accomplish. When he loses that capability, he will be just another relatively brief footnote of the type that billions of us log onto Wikipedia in order to read about, and either celebrate or forget. For example, who in 2014 could be concerned about what Roseoe (Fatty) Arbuckle thought about the 1932 presidential election of Herbert Hoover versus Franklin Delano Roosevelt?
In any case, if you seek a newly-discovered possible hard-core Jew-hater in the ranks of well known actors in the English-speaking film industries, try Gary Oldman, who spouted off recently in a nasty televised interview with Playboy magazine. But he did perform as a relatively credible Count Dracula. Maybe for that film play, he wasn’t acting at all. And on the other hand, his George Smiley never came up to the standard of the one portrayed by Alec Guinness.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
I liked “Argo”, but Affleck must really be a hardcore leftist in order to, you know, not actually learn a lesson from a film he himself made about Islamic intolerance and fanaticism.
@ ArnoldHarris:
Occupational bigotry?
There is neither less nor more reason to give credence to the political opinions of an actor than to those of an accountant, or a physician, or a mechanic, or a restaurant chef, or a building contractor, or a bus driver, or a lawyer, or a basketball player, or a math teacher, or a cosmetician, or an architect, or a fireman, or an engineer. . . .
There’s really no reason to be especially attentive to (OR scornful of) the political opinions of ANYBODY purely on account of livelihood unless you think his livelihood, by its nature, makes him especially knowledgeable about politics (and even then, there’s no assurance that his discernment & probity will match his knowledge of the matter).
There’s no denying the fact that the performing arts do tend to be dominated by an extraordinarily shallow elite, and that the attitude of superficiality does tend to trickle down to those on their way up (if they want to get anywhere)
— yet I seriously doubt that any occupational group has the market cornered when it comes to political airheads.
One man’s opinion, of course (and an actor’s at that!), ken ayin hara.
Raymond Ibrahim is absolutely right. Yet, you will always find a stupid opinion blaming Maher and praising Affleck, coming from propagandist academics, particularly Juan Cole, who, in his comment, does not miss an opportunity to bash Israel – a topic that was not at all part the Maher-Affleck show:
I do not understand why any thinking person would give any credence to the political opinions of professional actors, male or female. That applies to any of them who support Israel as well as those of them who support Israel’s enemies.
I liked Ronald Reagan as US president. But in truth, I never bothered to research his opinion on anything whatsoever until he began running for public office.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
Thanks Ted, for this excellent article.