Barak: “There is no real way to announce an end of construction”

By Ted Belman

Barak was interviewed on French TV.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak thinks there is a 50-50 chance that Israel and the Palestinians will return to the negotiating table before September but that Israel cannot stop settlement construction, he told France 24 in an interview on Friday.

    “I hope that it’s at least 50-50, probably more than 50-50,”

    “There is no real way to announce an end of construction. There’s half a million people living there. They need a new kindergarten every week.”

What kind of crap is this. Construction is not about the need for kindergardens, its about our right to build and the need for homes.

He added that European governments should tell the Palestinians: “Now you must come to grips with reality,” regarding their demand for a settlement freeze. “It’s about taking responsibility.”

JPOST reports

    The defense minister said of settlement construction, “If we have a breakthrough, it will delineate a border. If there’s a building that [ends up] on the Palestinian side of a mutually agreed border, why should they care – they will get it.” Likewise, he said, “If it ends up on the Israeli side of a mutually agreed upon border, why should they care. It’s on our side anyhow.”

    Settlements, he insisted, are “not the real issue when coming to negotiations.”

Exactly right. We must keep building. It shouldn’t matter to the peace process except to create consequences for the Arabs for choosing to delay or avoid negotiations.

    Describing what he called “unfair and unjust” attempts to isolate Israel because of the lack of peace, Barak said those efforts scare him. Israel he said, “really wants” to return to negotiations.

    However, the defense minister suggested that renewed talks should take place behind closed doors due to the avoid the “penetrating media and transparency.” Secrecy, he said, would give those at the leadership level the confidence that they are “moving on solid ground and not just attempting [to jump] into empty swimming pools.”

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  1. a dios rogando et con el palo dando. Yes, sounds good to me, but..to ME it sounds good. What I need now is the rest of the world, at least the rest of my people to agree with me.

  2. I’ll bet you all know about the Archprieste of Hita. Spain circa 1000.
    He was a rascally itinerant Catholic Priest. Wrote some incredibly delightfull stories in ancestral Spanish which we had to learn while studying Spanish Literature.
    One of those stories relate his experience with a bandit that ambushed him while trying to cross a small stream using a primitive log bridge.
    The bandit, garden variety thief/murderer, blocked the Priest’s way and demanded all he had.
    The Archpriete proceeded to beat to a pulp the bandit and let him dangling in the stream.
    The bandit somehow got back to his place and later complained to the Obisp.
    The Priest was summoned to explain what happened and why a Christian would beat up anyone…
    He informed the Obisp that his working procedure was… “A DIOS ROGANDO e CON EL PALO DANDO”.
    He said he would Pray to the Lord while beating the living dailight away from any crook.

    I sense that with he advent of large fields of natural gas and oil, we are slowly getting to adopt the same concept.
    No more sweet talking with criminals and running for cover or reliance on passing “friends”.
    “A DIOS ROGANDO e CON EL PALO DANDO”

  3. Jewish building in the land of Israel is not an obstruction to peace, it is THE ONLY ROAD TO PEACE.
    It tests the true intentions of the pretendants to the land of Israel, calling themselves “Palestinians”.
    If it is true what they are sometimes claiming, that they want PART of the land, to live there peacefully “side by side” with Israel than Jewish construction won’t matter to them. They are building like mad themselves, are they not? Building wildly without any general building plan, without permits, just building.
    As long as “Jewish construction” is still being complained about, even mentioned the State of Israel has nothing to talk about with them, the pretendants to a land which is not their’s, a land to do not love but hate, a land they keep burning down. (This weekend again, they did set fire to Golan and Galil grazing grounds).

  4. A Message to: LT COL HOWARD

    “The Lord of hosts will defend them; and they shall devour” Zechariah 9:15

    I think the time has come for action before during or after words.

    Habah l’hargecha hashkem l’hargo (derived from Deuteronomy 22:26): “If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first.” (This law applies equally to someone coming to kill someone else — you’re obligated to kill the murderer in order to save his intended victim.)

    A do or die moment
    by Caroline Glick

    For years, Israel’s governments have taken a back seat to Washington on Iran. From Ariel Sharon to Ehud Olmert to Netanyahu, since Iran’s nuclear program was first revealed in 2003, Israel has allowed itself to believe that the US could be trusted to take the greatest threat to Israel’s survival off the table.

    The belief that the US would lead a military strike against Iran was always based more on blind faith than fact. When, in 2003, George W.

    Bush decided to work through the UN Security Council on the issue. despite Russia’s open assistance to Iran’s nuclear and missile programs and China’s growing addiction to Iranian natural gas, it was already apparent that the US was not serious about preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. And when, in late 2007, the US’s National Intelligence Assessment published the demonstrably false claim that Iran abandoned its nuclear weapons program in 2003, it became clear to anyone willing to see that the US had decided not to take any significant action to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.

    This dire state of affairs was reinforced with the inauguration of Obama as US president in 2009.

    Obama’s sole policy for dealing with the nuclear weapons-seeking and openly genocidal Iranian regime is appeasement. And Obama doesn’t seek to appease the mullahs in order to convince them to end their nuclear program.

    For Obama, appeasement is an end in and of itself. This is why – even after Iran has spurned all his offers of appeasement and has been caught red-handed repeatedly aiding Iraqi and Afghan forces killing US servicemen, and despite Iran’s swift progress toward a nuclear arsenal – Obama refuses to even state openly that he would use force to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.

    What this means is that – as was the case in May 1967, when the combined Arab armies gathered with the express purpose of wiping the Jewish state off the map – today again, Israel is alone at its hour of greatest peril. All of the lesser threats now gathering from Egypt, the Palestinian Authority, Syria, Lebanon and Turkey will become insurmountable if Iran becomes a nuclear power.

    As was the case in May 1967, Israel has arrived at a do-or-die moment. And we should all pray for the strength and courage of our leaders, our soldiers and our nation at this time.

    If We have no other alternative we should EMP Iran. If that doesn’t do the trick then send the whole country to their Muslim Paradise. But LT COL Howard thinks we shouldn’t get anyone angry at us.

    I think America wants a nuclear Iran, Then they can offer their services and protection with an American nuclear umbrella, for a price of course. It’s called leverage and the goal is control of oil and keeping them out of reach of the Chinese and Russians. If so it’s not working very well. A nuclear Israel is one of the impediments: so force Israel into a situation where we will give up our nukes for American security guarantees and nuclear umbrella. Exchange the Arab fear of Israel for Iran. Sell the Arabs hundreds of billions of weapons most can’t use or maintain but it makes the military industries viable and profitable and it recycles some of the petrodollars too.

    Our problem is we have Eunuchs for leaders. Israel I think is the only country in the world that fears America. Certainly they fear America more than our Arab and Muslim enemies.

    We should wipe out Iran but show no glee in doing so. If it comes to that, the nations of the world are the responsible ones as they could have like Hitler before stopped Iran over ten years ago but appeasement and greed rule the so called civilized world. WW3 might be the result of this latest venture in appeasement and greed. This time the war might last all of 12 min.

  5. Describing what he called “unfair and unjust” attempts to isolate Israel because of the lack of peace, Barak said those efforts scare him. Israel he said, “really wants” to return to negotiations.

    Now there’s a way to project strength and confidence to the world. Announcing that you are “scared” of how the world will treat Israel.

  6. Comment #4 reply to:

    LT COL HOWARD says:
    June 18, 2011 at 9:16 am

    Calm down Ted, Andrew, etc. Keep talking and keep building, say” yes and ” —- say” yes but ” —- say yes and keep doing what you doing. Take a leaf from those who want to destroy you. They will say anything to calm you down and keep up with their terror and other tactics.

  7. So you believe it’s all about tactics? Your tactics amount to a form of appeasement and bowing to superior power. That Israel can weather the current Obama tropical storm against us by applying certain tactics? What happens if Obama wins a second term? It is still a possibility?

    What if Israel says thanks but no thanks we are not interested in American interference and we can handle our own affairs with out your input?

    Israel announces that we understand the difficult economic situation in America and we do not want to add to the tax burden and growing deficits of the American people therefore we wish effective immediately to end the military grants we now receive from the USA.

    Since Egypt’s military and civilian grants from America are tied as well to the Camp David agreements, there should no longer be a legal obligation of America re: the military appendices to that Treaty.

    Since Israel will now pay for all items America has till now supplied or wishes to supply Israel, We feel free to enter into agreements for military sales both export and import with any nation willing and able to trade with us without any reservations or considerations for any third party including the USA.

    General Dayton’s Palis Army must return to Jordan are they will be rounded up and sent back by the IDf and if they resist we will kill them.

    Until America releases to US J. Pollard and the Palis release Schalit no formal talks with the Palis will be possible.

    If the UN passes a resolution recognizing a palis state with an American vote for or abstention, Israel will immediately quit the UN and ban all UN organizations and NGO’s from Israel and access to Plis held territories via Israel. Israel will annex by force if necessary all of Y & S.

    Let it be known that Israel has the wherewithal to deny to the West that which they value above all else. We will not submit to threats, pressure or blackmail from anyone. If pushed to far Israel will exercise our power where it will do the most hurt.

    We would say in private that if the Obama Administration does anything to endanger our security or existence more than they have already we will pull the plug and declare Obama an enemy of Israel and the Jewish people and work tirelessly to see him defeated in the next elections. In other words Israel will make Obama’s treatment of Israel a major campaign Issue.

    Israel need all the friends and allies it can get. There’s no need to antagonize anyone through words. If you keep the actions “ambiguous”using your definitions and explanations you will win the day. If you verbally confront you gain nothing. Move on your own schedule toward your own goals and you will win the day.

    In the international arena there are no friends only interests. Individuals I believe would rather support winners than losers. Israel pays with real concessions for the fictional American support. American politicians sell Israel to placate Arabs, such as by boosting the peace process after the Iraqi debacle. If not for US pressure, No Israeli governments would even have considered giving the Arabs Judea and Samaria and partitioning Jerusalem.

    Israel must abandon the US aid and live on her own. Financial responsibility would signify the return to Israel’s fundamental political doctrine: Only the IDF is responsible for Israel’s safety. Israel doesn’t need Star Wars weapons to extinguish Palestinian terrorism; good old napalm would do. Israel doesn’t need expensive cutting-edge weapons against regular Arab armies: nuclear bombs are good enough.

    A Tough self-reliant, arrogant Israel has a good chance for a lasting armistice with neighboring Arabs. Israel the American Vassal has no chance for lasting peace.

    We have already tried relying on Assyria.

    Calm down Ted, Andrew, etc. Keep talking and keep building, say” yes and ” —- say” yes but ” —- say yes and keep doing what you doing. Take a leaf from those who want to destroy you. They will say anything to calm you down and keep up with their terror and other tactics.

    Israel need all the friends and allies it can get. There’s no need to antagonize anyone through words. If you keep the actions “ambiguous”using your definitions and explanations you will win the day. If you verbally confront you gain nothing. Move on your own schedule toward your own goals and you will win the day.

    for lasting peace.

    We have already tried relying on Assyria.

  8. Barak is the biggest fool in the world. He is willing to negotiate with a group or groups whose goal is the elimination of every Jew in Israel. I would have answered with a question such as how can Israel negotiate with mafia-like criminals who claim to represent a total fictitious people? To compare the Fakestinians to the Mafia is to insult the mafia. I also would have responded to the surrender monkey’s question with “When will you negotiate your own suicide? “. I have a question for any surrender monkey (Frenchmen): When will your country compensate the country of Poland for encouraging them to stand up to Germany in 1939, risk war,falsely promising they would invade Germany if Poland was attacked. Of course, they never invaded Germany . They were beaten in 5 days although it took 5 weeks for the Germans to mop up . Poland had to fight Germany and the Red Army themselves without the slightest assistance from the cowards from France and Little Britain. There is a book published 1-2 years ago which extensively documents how the French and the equally cowardly British cynically encouraged Poland not to give in to Germany at all, promising Poland weapons, supplies ,etc. and promising to invade Germany. The best Little Britain ,now one of the most antisemitic countries in the world could do for Poland was offer them uniforms but not one bullet and then in lieu of their promised invasion, the RAF (who don’t deserve half the credit for winning the battle of Britain since non-British pilots especially Polish pilots accounted for 25% of Nazi aircraft shot down in dogfights) dropped leaflets on a few German cities. The backstabbing French and British are indirectly responsible for the death of 3 million of Polish Jews and 2 million Polish Christians .

  9. Calm down Ted, Andrew, etc. Keep talking and keep building, say” yes and ” —- say” yes but ” —- say yes and keep doing what you doing. Take a leaf from those who want to destroy you. They will say anything to calm you down and keep up with their terror and other tactics.

    Israel need all the friends and allies it can get. There’s no need to antagonize anyone through words. If you keep the actions “ambiguous”using your definitions and explanations you will win the day. If you verbally confront you gain nothing. Move on your own schedule toward your own goals and you will win the day.