I have been getting reports that it has claimed 30,000 deaths already.
It is alleged to be a man made vires. US Military is alledgedly treating it like a biological weapon.
Feel free to posts links and comments on the threat so that we are up to date on the threat.
I just received this email;
Dr. Neil Ferguson of the Imperial College of London and director of J-IDEA, the Abdul Latif Jameel Institute for Disease and Emergency Analytics, estimates that the official numbers released by China of less than 30,000 in total infectious cases are far too low.
His organization calculates the true infection rate is over 50,000 people PER DAY!!
Meanwhile, the contrast between what we’re told by the various world government and what we’re seeing them do continues to widen.
@ Buzz of the Orient:
Hi, Buzz.
How are you doing for meat? My son-in-law has been feeding the family sausage and home-made bread. I imagine wet markets are not attractive prospects nowadays. Maimonides was right about chicken soup — plenty of fluids, and plenty of protein, plus warmth to keep things moving inside.
Our grandchildren in Guangzhou have been enjoying the family time — especially with Baba home nearly all the time — and a vacation from going to school. They have computers, with lessons over the internet. Our granddaughter in Chongqing doesn’t seem to have so much to do. She uses her imagination, finding different ways to amuse herself with things like ribbons. I notice that she always has a coat on: Is it cold in those parts?
I imagine Hubei is miserable:
“A volunteer in Wuhan who asked to remain anonymous said local medical sources are saying that the relatively high mortality rate is likely due to patients only getting treated when the disease has progressed to the point that they are seriously ill.
“Wuhan residents have described a system under which local neighborhood committees are tasked with issuing permits for patients to leave their residential communities and travel to hospital, and that nobody without approval from local officials is being offered treatment when they arrive at the city’s overwhelmed hospitals.”
— https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/coronavirus-medical-02202020150952.html
My wife and I will continue to pray for you, along with prayers for our family.
@ Michael S:
Finally found this message. Having computer problems but nobody around to fix it. It’s a scene from a dystopian movie out there. Almost nobody outside. I’ve not left home for more than a month. My wife goes out only when necessary to buy food or medicine, wears a mask, goggles and disposable shoe covers – washes everything on return. Have to be careful because I’m at a very vulnerable age – 83.
@ Buzz of the Orient:
Hi, Buzz. I can login and comment now, but can’t edit yet, so forgive any typos.
I’m glad to hear the new confirmed infections are abating in Chongching. The same is apparently true in Guangzhou and Shenzen. Unfortunately, most people there still can’t go to work. Even if they physically report to the office now and then, shipments are being held up at the ports because of lack of dockworkers.
There seem to be three realities with this virus:
1. The Wuhan reality: people dying by the hundreds and thousands. I think the toll might be exceptionally high there, because many old and health-compromised people were exposed at the wet markets.
2. The reality in non-Wuhan China: The disease traveled to these places in mostly fit, young people who may have been healthy enough to develop countermeasures in their bodies, and had enough advance warning to quarantine themselves.
3. The reality outside China. Most of the countries hit are more spread-out than the Chinese, and have better hygeine (wet markets, with animal guts all over the floor, are rare in Canada, Australia and the US). Some cases have been reported, but with a very low mortality rate; so the virus is mostly a political and media event here.
@ Bear Klein:
Sorry I couldn’t respond until now, waiting for Ted to fix the site…..Only one member on this site has my email add.,,,,,,,,but not my phone #. It’s enough that the Government has it…
I could have replied by saying.,,, “No, No A Thousand Times NO…I’d Rather Die Than Say Yes..”…… but I won’t.
I’ll just politely ask you what is the “surprise”…maybe something like an unpolitical “October Surprise”……??? * Reminds me of the Julian Rose’s “Levinsky at the Vedding” He got an invitation saying \Your Presence is requested\.. Fo….ist they vant the presents.NO”.
Maybe a 10 cent stamp…..!!! Unlike Napoleon, who made his own, I’ll wait on developments…
@ Edgar G.:
Send me your address and phone number via Ted. I will then send you a surprise!
@ Bear Klein:
Do you think an apology will soothe my shattered feelings………???
Just send me money….!!
@ Buzz of the Orient:
Buzz,
It looks like China got hit by two different viruses: The first, very lethal, hit only Hunan. The second, Very contagious but not so lethal, hit those who traveled to different places. That’s just a gut feeling. Perhaps the original strains mutated? At any rate, it is good news that the geographic spread has been limited. Also, cases both in and out of Hubei produced similar ~1:1 ratios of seriously ill cases to recovered cases.
As of today, Chongqing, with a population of 32 million has 553 cases, but only 2 new cases. The new cases number is steadily decreasing, which is in line with the rest of the country save for Hebei province where Wuhan is located. Best news in quite a while.
@ Edgar G.:Yes I did not read you comment carefully, my apologies.
@ Bear Klein:
Are you trying to be insulting or what…? I READ THE ARTICLE…but obviously you didn’t read my comment , certainly did not understand it….
I distinctly wrote that the team expect to begin human trials in 3 months or less. (I also read (perhaps elsewhere) that when the SARS cure was found, they took 7 months from discovery to human trials the SHORTEST time yet). It was in this context that they declared that they expected to HALVE that time …or better. How could I have written what I did, unless I had read the article thoroughly……humm ???
PLEASE BEAR..In the past I have often pointed out to YOU, that you either hadn’t read or understood my remarks…… WHY NOT…they re perfectly clear…to even an average person, and you have shown far more than that…..except with my posts..
SO quit it…Please….!!!
@ Edgar G.:
You should read the article, (see the link above in Ted’s comment) it has not been tested yet and is a long way off. Ted’s headline was misleading or premature.
From the article I quote:
IT WAS ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY on this site by TED BELMAN.. and in the US Media, that an American team had discovered an antivirus for the Corona.
It is a team which has been at the forefront of finding cures for several other previous, dangerous epidemic causing diseases. They announce that they found it immediately because the DNA was already known.. They expect to go to HUMAN trials in 3 months or less.
Some scientists think this virus will just be another one of the recurring seasonal viruses that occur. In the Northern Hemisphere it may burn out in the summer. However, in the Southern Hemisphere it will spread in their winter.
So vaccines are needed. Clearly it is having a major negative affect in China and still may elsewhere.
Thanks, everyone for your comments. The current tally is 69,363 confirmed cases in China, including 1,316 in my daughter’s province of Guangdong. Total deaths are 1,667 confirmed. My whole family in China is hunkered down in quarantine, and have had no business income for weeks. Obviously, nobody there can wait until this thing “burns out”.
The 400 Americans abouart the cruise liner quarantined in Tokyo are being flown to the US.46 Americans will stay behind, because they have been confirmed as infected. My wife noted that people in such situations can run out of necessary medicine, such as heart medicine. In Wuhan, a 17-year-old disabled child died at home because one parent had died and the other was taken to hospital. In Hong Kong, it has been reported that some people are setting fires out of frustration over Communist mismanagement of the crisis. Other than WeChat with my family, I can only find confused reports of what is going on.
@ Bear Klein: The Lab hopes to test the effectiveness and safety of the proposed vaccine as early as the summe rof this year. That holds out hope that the vaccine might be approved for use before the end of 2020. By that time, some epemiologists think that the virus may have largely burned itself out. In any case, there is now hope that the virus might be neutralized as a major threat to the United States by next year.
@ Ted Belman:
From the article itself they have NOT tested it. So ONE does NOT know if it works.
The US found a vacine for the Coronavirus in 3 hours.
A heartbreaking scene:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1228425538366300161
Girl wailing when mother’s body driven away. Her father already died 20 days ago. One of the many scenes in #China during the #coronavirusoutbreak #COVID_2019