The @CIA director is in Qatar to negotiate a “comprehensive” deal with Hamas, which will secure the release of all hostages in exchange for the safe exit of Hamas leaders and their families from the Gaza Strip and the handing over of power to “a joint local council of non-Hamas…
— Mudar Adnan Zahran ???????? ????? (@Mudar_Zahran) November 28, 2023
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BEAR-
I get your point….and it’s a sharp one. Instead of sending me a reasonable answer, Ted has cut me off in such a peremptory manner that I cannot but feel that he knows things are NOT going the way he wants them to.
And Mudar has been saying some strange things lately…
Until now, Ted’s always been polite and helpful………….
@dreuveni @Edgar G.
This is exactly what I mean by Final Solution – the Final Solution (same as the Nazi one) to the Jewish question caused by the creation of the Pal. state as in:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/revealed-trumps-deal-century-map-future-palestine-israel?fbclid=IwAR0FFI_hRI3w-5mtAYLoMhnYqobHJvyogxLIQskUch2LNGJqd1GWAg6y9D8
But this time accomplished by the Israeli government and the military brass (again, I really hope I am wrong).
You are right about the people but wrong about the PM and the Ministers (again, I hope I am wrong here but I’ll believe the result of their (PM’s and Ministers’) heroic speeches when I see it)
Jennifer Gingrich ??
@fem_mb
Hamas kidnapped the Bibas family on Oct. 7, then gave them to another terror group in Gaza. Today, Hamas claimed all are dead, killed by “previous Israeli air strikes”.
If this family had been killed by an air strike ‘previously’, Hamas would have used it as PR immediately.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAHfcITWIAA-w00?format=jpg&name=small
Psalms 137
[6] If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.
[7] Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom (read, “Gaza”) in the day of Jerusalem (read, “Kibbutz Nir Oz “); who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.
[8] O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.
[9] Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
This is Hashem’s judgment, against those who cheered when this family was being tormented.
Ted, Bear, Edgar, etc. I know who God’s “chosen ones” are. They’re those innocent children who have been tormented by people who hate Hashem. Jesus said,
Matthew 19:
[14] But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
Lets take care of them now, while it’s in our power to do so. The other “chosen ones” will have their day, when it comes.
Edgar – Sometimes people are treated or worshiped as prophets or saviors (e.g. chosen one) because they make lots of huge predictions and say things that are pleasing to our ears.
When none of these predictions come true ever over many years, some people realize that is a very possibility that the supposed prophet or savior is really more likely just a con-man. Some will keep a religious type belief in the “chosen one” in-spite of years of evidence that nothing they say comes true.
TED you too aggressively brushed me off, not like you at all. Sounds like a “sore spot”. I sincerely wish that Mudar does indeed rule Jordan shortly.
Please recall that I have been the most supportive and constant poster of support for the JO on this board.
Forget the term “hypothetical”, and I make it a straight question.
Your term “The Chosen One” is oddly “Biblical” even apocalyptic.
I ask…Chosen by whom??
No need to get huffed about it , a simple question, needing to be asked.
And answered without rancour.
@Edgar. Not interested in hypotheticals. Mudar is the chosen one and he will rule. Jordan.
@Reader
TSFS – Two State Final Solution.
This smacks of the Nazi final solution. I can only hope you mean Jordan and Israel.
READER-
I STILL think you are wrong….! The PM, the Ministers and the whole People (lefties also) are determined, and back the IDF 100%.
Hi, Reader.
You say the ceasefire will end Thursday AM — That’s four hours from now.. Here’s my take on the hostage situation:
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-775612
A bitter call for “Son of Hamas”; but he is on the right track. Israel needs to issue an ultimatum to Hamas: Release all hostages immediately, or we will utterly destroy Gaza.
I have been praying for days for the Bibas family.
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/11/29/israel-probes-hamas-claim-that-hostage-baby-kfir-is-dead-hamas-is-wholly-responsible/
If they have indeed been killed (and Hamas is therefore culpable), that’s the last straw for me. Raze Gaza to the ground, and assasinate every leader in his comfy Turkish or Qatari palace.
cf Psalms 137
[8] O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.
[9] Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
TED-
Let me ask you a straight question which no one seems yet to have brought up. And a straight answer. I’ve been meaning to for several years but never got around to it.
You know Mudar far better than anyone here. You are close to him. He is your friend.
Hypothetically, if the JO came about, but a different leader emerged,, would Mudar support that leader regardless of his own ambitions.???
Qatar is no friend to Israel. Let them expel the Hamas leadership from their country to face ‘the music’.
@peloni
Who told you that?
If the US was anxious to see Bibi go, it would have never let him stick around for 15 years.
He is all for the Pal. state, freezing the settlements, feeding Hamas (to, allegedly, set it against the PA which is, essentially, the same as Hamas), handing the Periphery over to the Arabs and concentrating the Jews in the urban center (how convenient! https://idsf.org.il/en/opinion-en/nop35-damages-israel/), and lying to everyone about it to put them to sleep.
The US might be making some noises to make the fans of Bibi rally around him but no more than that.
@dreuveni
TSFS – Two State Final Solution.
Biden is not mad , he is a willfull accomplice to save Hamas skin for a mockery of cease-fire to be followed by removal of all jewish settlements in Judea-Samaria to promote the unified sovereign State of Palestine .
@Reader
If you were right, then the US wouldn’t be anxious to see Bibi go, and the very clearly do.
@ Reader: I know you’ve been waiting for this for quite a while: please enlighten us on what the “TSFS” means. I fully expect the “F” to be the initial of a four letter word, but just in case, please let us know.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-chief-barnea-in-qatar-for-fresh-talks-will-meet-cia-director/
@Edgar G.
They are playing the drama for us, the scenario for which was written a while ago, and the top brass is in on it.
It is supposed to end with the TSFS, and I don’t even want to mention what is likely to happen afterwards.
I really hope I am wrong but I happen to be right most of the time.
READER-
I’d bet you are wrong.
@peloni
What do you want to bet that Bibi already said yes a while ago and has been lying to everyone and making heroic speeches ever since?
The thing being totally ignored as far as I see it is what consumed everyone for nearly two years – the NeoCon war to topple Putin and carve out Russia and it’s minerals, and much wider, for big business.
And Russia has instead carved out America.
Biden and the Democrats are being seen as losers more and more. So for Biden to block arms to fight this war against Hamas…well I think he cannot
So after the pause Israel is strengthened.
And will feel more comfortable. Especially Netanyahu which is a very good thing.
The pause is coming to its natural end and those Arabs in Hamas patting the children won’t last long.
Yes! He’s absolutely mad.
Bibi must say no!