Has the Israeli People’s Army Lost The People?

T. Belman. A few statements, in this otherwise good article, rankled. I have marked them in red.

The gap between the views of the General Staff and those of the public is widening rapidly.

By Amos Harel, HAARETZ

[..] It’s impossible to understand the furor roused by Golan’s comparison between certain developments in Israeli society today and developments in Nazi Germany in the 1930s in isolation from the other storms that have hit the defense establishment’s top brass in recent months. These include,  Chief of Staff Gadi Eisenkot’s speech explaining the rules of engagement that obligate soldiers; the trial of Elor Azaria, the soldier who killed a Palestinian in Hebron when the assailant was already wounded and prone; and right-wing attacks portraying Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon as a leftist stooge due to his public defense of the IDF’s values as he sees them.

The wave of stabbing and car-ramming attacks that began last October has accelerated the outbreak of these disputes, all of which stem from the effects of Israel’s ongoing control over the territories. But other factors also contributed: Last year’s hard-fought election campaign, which culminated in Netanyahu’s racist statement about Arabs “going to the polls in droves”; the establishment of a narrow, fragile right-wing government in which Netanyahu has little political maneuver room; and the ideological right’s deep frustration over what it sees as its inability to translate electoral victories into its desired government policies.

These serial uproars over Golan, Eisenkot, Azaria and Ya’alon, combined with Netanyahu’s responses, in which he carefully maintained his distance from the defense minister and the generals, attest to a deep and multilayered crisis of confidence. Netanyahu and Ya’alon publicly disagreed over both Azaria and Golan, with Ya’alon denouncing Azaria and backing Golan, while Netanyahu denounced Golan and made a sympathetic phone call to Azaria’s father.

The rift between Netanyahu and the IDF brass also runs deep. And the gap between the General Staff’s views and those of the Israeli public is rapidly widening, as demonstrated by several polls showing widespread public support for Azaria.

This latter fact leads to the most worrying conclusion of all: If the soldiers reflect the families they grew up in, it’s reasonable to assume that the high command also has a problem with its own soldiers.

The IDF has always prided itself on being the people’s army. But the people have been moving rightward, as the past several elections show, and this seems to have been accompanied by changing views about the limits of the use of force in dealing with Palestinian terror. Or perhaps these were always the majority’s views, but they’re now being expressed more freely, thanks to the internet and social media. Either way, the soldiers, their parents and other civilians all have firm opinions about what the IDF should do and, together, they create a critical mass whose influence the army can no longer ignore.

The IDF can no longer control what news soldiers receive; they can access the media freely via their cell phones. Nor can it limit soldiers’ communication with the outside world to one call a week from a public phone; they can communicate with parents and friends at will. Thus the military can no longer isolate soldiers from outside influences that contradict the institution’s declared values, and it’s only just starting to address the implications of this change.

For instance, Eisenkot was surprised to learn from reporters, shortly after the violence erupted last October, that the right-wing website 0404 was popular with his soldiers. He promptly asked a relative to monitor this and other similar sites and let him know what his recruits were reading. Later, he appointed an official task force to examine how the military was adapting to the age of social media.

Is a new generation of soldiers emerging for whom the IDF code of ethics, drafted at army headquarters in Tel Aviv, seems irrelevant to what’s happening in the alleys of Hebron and Nablus?

The gap between written doctrine and oral interpretation is already evident in discussions of the Hannibal procedure. This procedure clearly states that soldiers should try to rescue a kidnapped comrade even if this risks his life, but may not kill him. Yet field officers repeatedly say in closed discussions that they would rather kill a soldier than let Hamas or Hezbollah take him captive.

Six weeks after the incident in Hebron, it’s doubtful that the rules of engagement, which seem so clear to the top brass, are equally clear to and accepted by soldiers in the field. Instead, many such soldiers are complaining about what they see as insufficient backing for Azaria.

Shocked by public support, Ya’alon is going through a difficult time. He was shocked by the public support for Azaria, by Netanyahu’s flip-flop on the issue (he initially condemned Azaria’s shooting of the wounded Palestinian, then hedged by calling Azaria’s father to offer sympathy,) and by the way parts of the public seem to view the IDF chain of command – from the officer who reported the shooting up to the chief of staff – as the enemy in the incident. In his view, this is a rearguard action over the values of both the IDF and Israeli society, in which the army brass isn’t getting the backing it needs from the government.

Ya’alon agreed with Golan’s controversial warning that certain trends in Israeli society are no less dangerous to Israel than the Iranian nuclear threat. But Netanyahu, far from backing Golan, joined in the condemnations against him, thereby aligning himself with far-right racists like MK Bezalel Smotrich (Habayit Hayehudi) or the soccer hooligans known as La Familia.

Eisenkot is Ya’alon’s full partner in this battle. And Eisenkot likes to cite polls showing that public faith in the IDF remains stable, with some 90 percent of Israelis expressing such faith. But over the long term, Netanyahu’s behavior and the proliferating attacks by politicians on the generals are liable to undermine the IDF’s public credibility. How much support will Eisenkot himself earn in the next poll?

The public loves the IDF because it identifies the IDF with its soldiers. But it might be less enamored of an army that it perceives as mistreating Azaria, and whose deputy chief of staff expresses himself freely on controversial issues.

Golan is an outstanding officer and a smart, decent man, but utterly devoid of political or media sense. He read his controversial remarks from a prepared text at an official ceremony and those who spoke with him after the storm erupted got the impression that he never dreamed they would spark such outrage. It’s a bit surprising that nobody else on the General Staff previewed his speech to identify potential landmines.

Both Ya’alon and Eisenkot rejected calls for Golan’s dismissal out of hand, and Ya’alon is trying to ensure that Golan doesn’t resign of his own accord. But either way, it seems the lesson has been learned. One can only imagine what instructions the IDF Spokesperson’s Office will give senior officers before future speeches or media interviews: No ethics, no politics, absolutely no historical comparisons and, for God’s sake, don’t mention the Palestinians. The occupation? From a moral standpoint, it’s a good thing. [And so it is.]

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  2. Felix Quigley Said:

    As regards Yamit, and especially David Horowitz and Daniel Greenfield to whom Yamit is not far removed, they all take essentially an anti-historical approach in dealing with Israeli leadership.

    OK so enlighten us as to what is the correct historical approach you allude to and state you objections to Greenfield me and any others you criticise for not being “Historical”, not understanig our situation and not correctly analyzing it as well. Ball now in your court Felix.

    This centres very much on the very nature of left leadership in Israel.

    Define what and who is the Israeli left in Your opinion and give context.

    It is impossible to understand what are these factions today such as that of Herzog without understanding their historical roots.

    So what in your opinion are their “Historical Roots”? As the only one who has claimed such knowledge It is incumbent on you to provide such a historical background but I think we have argued these points to death many times over the years…..

    This is never done hence my severest opposition to the method of approach of the above.

    When does our pertinent history begin for ya Felix with Trotsky??? 🙂

    Jewish History:

    Erev Rav:….What Is Erev Rav

    History???

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S58ivjU9PeE

  3. As regards Yamit, and especially David Horowitz and Daniel Greenfield to whom Yamit is not far removed, they all take essentially an anti-historical approach in dealing with Israeli leadership.

    This centres very much on the very nature of left leadership in Israel.

    It is impossible to understand what are these factions today such as that of Herzog without understanding their historical roots.

    This is never done hence my severest opposition to the method of approach of the above.

  4. I am absolutely serious abouyt this. The job of editor may be onerous but it is made even harder by not acting immediately to remove and ban if necessary these kinds of of topic comments

    We are all very busy, all of us without exception.

    please try to put an end to this.

    If Israpundit cannot do this simple matter how can it give a lead or act on anything

    There are very good comments on Israpundit then unfortunately you meet this bilge and you have to pause and ask “What is going on here” ad it happens time and time again

  5. I was Reading through and please remind me was there not a gossip section set aside for this idiot woman calling herself Honeybee and Yamit to participate in

    Are Yamit and this woman trying to take down Israpundit?

  7. honeybee Said:

    @ Keli-A:

    The video you sent does not come through. I hate when this happens, my expiations are so diminished.

      

    Only your expiations??? 🙂

  19. Israel HaYom – Has an interesting article on the proposed coalition deal.

    Unity deal ‘ready to be signed’ but could cause Labor-Hatnuah split

    Deal already drafted, major hurdles overcome • Left could receive as many as nine portfolios if it brings Hatnuah along with it, including foreign affairs • “It is now Herzog who has to decide whether the talks fall through or a deal is inked,” he said.

    The talks between Labor and Likud over a possible unity government are now at an advanced stage, with an agreement reportedly all but complete. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Opposition Leader MK Isaac Herzog met some two week ago, with intense negotiations held ever since.

    To win support for the move, Herzog held a series of meetings on Tuesday with fellow party members. The understanding is that the Left would receive eight or nine ministerial portfolios once it joins the government, although that number would drop if Labor joins without Hatnuah, led by MK Tzipi Livni (Hatnuah and Labor ran on a joint candidate list in the 2015 general election and still caucus together in the Knesset). The agreement also stipulates that three to four Labor ministers would join the Diplomatic-Security Cabinet.

    “There are a few minor issues that need to be resolved, but an agreement has already been drafted and just needs to be signed,” said a source involved in the talks. “It is now Herzog who has to decide whether the talks fall through or a deal is inked,” he said.

    Histadrut labor federation Chairman Avi Nissenkoren has represented Labor in the talks together with Yossi Kucik, who served as director general of the Prime Minsiter’s Office in 1990s. If the deal materializes, Netanyahu may hand Labor portfolios that are currently held by existing cabinet members, although according to one source those ministers will continue to serve as cabinet members.

    The agriculture and rural development portfolio, currently held by Uri Ariel (Habayit Hayehudi), could go to Labor as part of this redistribution. Herzog is expected to get the foreign affairs portfolio and another senior party official will most likely receive the economy portfolio. Herzog would like to tap former party leader Shelly Yachimovich for the job, but she is apparently against a unity government, making her appointment to a cabinet post unlikely.

    Herzog initially tried to make Habayit Hayehudi forced out of the government as part of the deal, figuring this would help him pass the deal among his own party members, but Netanyahu made it clear that he would not get rid of any coalition partners.

    Herzog has managed to secure several concessions when it comes to the peace process, an area that is dear to his party members. One such concession is the appointment of Herzog as the lead negotiator in peace talks with the Palestinians. Another one is the government’s expected announcement that it will take part in a regional peace conference. Herzog also asked that Netanyahu declare a construction freeze in Judea and Samaria, but the prime minister refused. Ultimately, though, the differences on this matter were ironed out.

    One provision deals with Labor’s support of the coalition’s agenda. The agreement stipulates that Labor MKs would be free to vote their conscience on bills that have already been introduced and submitted to the Knesset for a preliminary or first reading. But the party would have to fully support new coalition-sponsored legislation.

    On Thursday, Livni told Herzog she disapproved of the agreement and would therefore stay out of the government. This will essentially bring an end to the political partnership between Hatnuah and Labor. A source who is involved in the negotiations said that “Herzog would like to enter the government because he knows this is his only life line,” referring to the internal dissent in Labor and the ongoing corruption probe surrounding Herzog’s 2013 primary bid.

    “Since Netanyahu and Finance Minister Moshe Kahlon agreed on a two-year budget, Herzog knows that he is on borrowed time as party leader if he stays in the opposition,” the source said, noting that the budgetary agreement all but ensures the government cannot be toppled for the next two years.

    If the two sides sign a coalition agreement, Labor would have to give it a green light through the Labor Convention, the party’s chief governing body. Herzog’s associates believe he would have a majority for any agreement he submits for a vote.

    http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=33645

  20. @ Bear Klein:
    have you given up on BB, should he be saying “et tu brutus”?
    I am curious, is it that you feel he is weak and not standing up to pressure or have you come to consider that he is doing things intentionally, and covertly, as i have come to beleive?
    Up until the election I gave him the benefit of the doubt but I did say that his election behavior and his subsequent appts would be the deciding factor for me. Since then it has been a no brainer.. starting with his panicking of voters, his appts and the repeated consistent MO of pretending to be right wing, issuing proclamations, later killing or discontinuing them… if you look back in detail you cant help but notice over the years the following:

    bernard ross Said:

    If my conclusion was incorrect we would already have seen many examples to the contrary but instead those examples have always been for show and disappear in short time.

    re trace the events and you will see a repeat MO which speaks for itself. The exact motivation I do not know, but the MO is consistent. That is why I beleive he realizes that he will have to come out of the closet to join the fake zionist party. He realizes that he cant keep fooling the consituency he has been fooling. I would love to be proven wrong but every time he proves me right… he always announces something like E1, taxes to PA, stopping illegal bldg… but his “right wing” reply always ends up disappearing.

  26. I am hoping for a new leader to rise to the top in Israel perhaps Nir Barkat (Mayor of Jerusalem).

  28. @ Bear Klein:
    True but be aware that there is a growing number of Druze youth that are becoming radicalized and potentially a cause for concern….

  29. Bear Klein Said:

    Military service is a tradition among some of the Druze population, with most opposition in Druze communities of the Golan Heights; 83 percent of Druze boys serve in the army, according to the IDF’s statistics.[41] According to the Israeli army, 369 Druze soldiers have been killed in combat operations since 1948.[42]

    I replied based on the email of your comment and did not see the last paragraph. I am aware of the history of the Druze and the golan druze opposition.. which is reducing a bit. I am also not surprised by your historical statistics which is what I already beleived. what I was curious about was whether there was any changing trend as asserted by the author… but also some of the articles “facts” are interesting so I was interested in an Israeli view of the asserted details, after reading, in order to expand my existing knowledge… my existing knowledge is as you described… but I suspect you never read the article

    as for my comments on BB, Yaalon and golan… I stick to their substance….. do you disagree with it?

  30. @ JoeBillScott:

    I stand corrected re: Harel but I do agree with many of his points. I stand by my statementr re: your opinion of Netanyo-yo and consideer him many degrees more dangerous than any on the left.

    but with WWIII imminent Netanyahu will have the maneuverability he needs to send all of these military traitors including their mouthpiece Harel where they belong. A suicide mission would be my first choice for them.

    This statement borders on the surrealistic and shows complete ignorance about BB and his history and lack of accomplishments as PM of Israel in his 10 years in office.

    The political IDF hierarchy is so bad and so out of touch with mainstream Israel that there is a growing lack of faith and respect for the IDF because of them….. They not only are incompetent but have caused many unnecessary casualties in past encounters with our enemies and have allowed our enemies to the North and south to to arm over the years to the extent that they pose an existential threat to every man woman and child in Israel not to mention the state itself. They are an embarrassment to any who knows what’s going on beyond the headlines. They should all be purged and the sooner the better stating from the top down to brigade commanders.

    Congratulations on your aliyah.

  31. @ bernard ross:

    Military service is a tradition among some of the Druze population, with most opposition in Druze communities of the Golan Heights; 83 percent of Druze boys serve in the army, according to the IDF’s statistics.[41] According to the Israeli army, 369 Druze soldiers have been killed in combat operations since 1948.[42]

  32. Bear Klein Said:

    I know you are really into blasting Israel government leaders but do you want to post Palestinian anti Israel propaganda?

    You really need to think before you fly off the handle and make absurd statements…. I often post articles I disagree with and articles which I find confusing and articles about which I have no clue as to the facts:
    bernard ross Said:

    so is this true… are the “loyal” druze also falling out?

    that is your clue to what I was doing with that post
    bernard ross Said:

    I would not want to be protecting the arabs who dont serve and are disloyal 5th columns…. even though yaalon, golem golan, and herzog advocate that position.

    that is my extraneous statement, though true… BB Yaalon and golan have been applying and advocating a soft approach to the pals while incarcerating a soldier who did his job for which he was trained: killing terorists.

    I was not sure what part of my comment you disagreed with and you never commented on any part of the article and the question I asked the posters and my main reason for posting… which was whether the article had any truth.

    I can see why you totally misread BB and Trump as you dont pay attention to facts like you dont pay attention to the words of the post.

    So, do you think there is any truth in the article’s asserted “facts”… I am not referring to the headline.

  33. @ bernard ross:Bernard you are posting an article from anti Israel Palestinian writer who distorts anything positive about Israel.
    Aziza Nofal is a journalist from Nablus. She lives and works in Ramallah.

    I know you are really into blasting Israel government leaders but do you want to post Palestinian anti Israel propaganda?

    Military service is a tradition among some of the Druze population, with most opposition in Druze communities of the Golan Heights; 83 percent of Druze boys serve in the army, according to the IDF’s statistics.[41] According to the Israeli army, 369 Druze soldiers have been killed in combat operations since 1948.[42]

  35. Keli-A Said:

    That alone proves you are brain dead or totally ignorant re: Israel and our political inner workings

    Is this how you treat immigrants? I would be afraid to knock on your door,Darlin.

  37. Ted Belman Said:

    Keli is way too aggressive and at times insulting. Unfortunately that’s his MO.

    I am mistaken again, I thought yamit82 was keli-a’s evil twin.

  38. Ted Belman Said:

    Keli is way too aggressive and at times insulting. Unfortunately that’s his MO.

    I was hoping to be promoted to that status 🙁

  39. JoeBillScott Said:

    It would normally take a great deal of time to undo Obama’s seven years and the EU’s decade or more of brainwashing and turning of the upper echelons of the IDF and security services, but with WWIII imminent Netanyahu will have the maneuverability he needs to send all of these military traitors

    I find it odd that you invest faith in the man who actually appointed those “military traitors” and instead you blame those who neither had the responsibility for the appointment nor the brainwahing policies of the IDF and the security services. How can you blame obama and the eu for appointments, training and behavior of BB’s appointments. Thats like blaming the EU for the 8 years of illegal building that BB facilitated intentionally covertly to the Israeli public… at the MOunt, at duma, with the soldier, with the building in YS… BB is at the helm…. but for some reason you think he is not.

  40. Ted Belman Said:

    But as Yamit points out Bibi really sides with the brass, his protestations to the contrary, notwithstanding.

    that is the public image… but my view is that he does not “side” with them… he appointed them to be his lightning rod AND teflon armor of plausible deniability for issuing controversial trial balloons AND for implementing controversial agendas with his electorate. Its a well known political tactic and only faith rather than facts can attest otherwise. If my conclusion was incorrect we would already have seen many examples to the contrary but instead those examples have always been for show and disappear in short time.

  41. JoeBillScott Said:

    But without our current play-actor as Prime Minister, Obama and his moles, e.g., Boogi Herzog, Tzipi, Yaalon, Yair Golan, etc., might have wreaked even more damage.

    All of the names mentioned by you were appointed by BB or his appointees except Herzog…with whom he is desperately seeking to unite.

  42. “From the early days of the State of Israel, we upheld a principle that the founders of our nation dictated: One hand will always be on the trigger, to defend the security of the state and its citizens in the face of the enemy, while the other hand will be extended in peace,” Herzog said.

    Jews are daily slaughtered and an incompetent PM, DM and its new partner the fake zionists call for the families of the slaughtered to seek peace with their murderers…. instead of slaughtering the murderers without mercy as they should be doing.

  43. the leadership shows how insensitive it is to the suffering of Israelis at the hands of the GOI protected muslims who daily slaughter Jews. It’s getting disgusting to see them pushing their negligence down the peoples throats as a moral imperative.

    Watch: Victim’s brother confronts Netanyahu

    Brother of ax victim Tzvika Cohen who was himself brutally stabbed interrupts PM’s speech for terror victims, before breaking down sobbing.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/212116#.VzNGbIQrLIU
    Elderly terror victims: Arabs refused to help us as we bled

    86-year-old relives horror on Jerusalem promenade, when terrorists pounced on her friends, and Arab workers refused to help.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/212104#.VzMn5YQrLIU
    PA PM: We’re following the path of the Nazi Mufti

    Hamdallah declares PA is continuing the path of the ‘pure-hearted son of Palestine,’ Haj Amin al-Hussein, who conspired with Hitler.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/212102#.VzMrEoQrLIU

    the judenrat who police the euro designated ghetto called Israel appear to be reprising their role of convincing the victims to be compliant… to turn the other cheek and seek peace from the slaughterers of their children. All that remains is to hand out the bar of soap.

  44. Has the Israeli People’s Army Lost The People?

    No, but the Judenrat leadership in command should.

    Did Ya’alon take a pot shot at Elor Azariya on Memorial Day?

    At official ceremony Ya’alon warns ‘not to lose humanity’ by overusing force, in seemingly subtle jab at Hevron soldier.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/212111#.VzMq1YQrLIU

    this man knows no shame… after every step of the way pursuing the soldier like inspector Javits… using every opportunity to tell his subordinates to find the soldier guilty, instructing his golem golan to use the shoah remembrance to give a sermon that was just a fig leaf for justifying yaalons vendetta… now he uses the remembrance of the fallen to once again tell everyone that his obsession is merely a moral and ethical decision. the man who abandons his soldiers and criminally obstructs justice is unfit to lead soldiers. He reminds of the undiscovered axe murderer who keeps pointing the finger at others to cover up his own crimes.. at some point you would expect Israelis to stop buying this childishly transparent and offensive BS.

  46. @ Ted Belman:

    Thanks Ted, I do not disagree with you. My thoughts, notwithstanding defending myself from Keli’s objections above, were only that though no one can do the experiment of “what woulda happened without Bibi”, in my opinion he’s held back the tide of the leftists both in the government itself and in the IDF and security apparatus.

    If we are fortunate enough to have a pro-Israel US administration in seven months, I think a purge of all branches of Israeli government from the PM down to piss-ons will be in order.

  47. @ Keli-A:

    Keli,

    I’m a new immigrant to Israel and currently live in the “periferia”. At the moment, I have a nice view of Yam Kineret looking out my livingroom window. I’m still learning about Israel and our “political inner workings” but what I’ve gathered so far is that unlike in the USA where there is some local control, Israelis have just about zero input into politics. But expressing opinions is still allowed, so I guess you and I should be thankful of that and strive to avoid crass name calling if at all possible (unless talking about Leftists).

    I think you’re mistaking Amos Harel for Yisrael Harel, who is indeed a right winger and was the founder, in the 1980s, of the now defunct Israeli political magazine “Nikudah”.

    And if you actually read what he wrote, you should be able to identify all of the left-wing sneering and the usual masturbatory sloganeering and name calling.

    As regards Bibi, in the best of all possible Israels we would have a true man of the people not a play-actor. But without our current play-actor as Prime Minister, Obama and his moles, e.g., Boogi Herzog, Tzipi, Yaalon, Yair Golan, etc., might have wreaked even more damage.

    Personally, I would like to see Caroline Glick as Rosh Hamemshalah with Ayelet Shaked as head of the Supreme Court. Who would you choose for those jobs?

  48. @ JoeBillScott:
    The premise of the article is that there is a widening gulf between the IDF brass and the people. Who would dispute that?

    But as Yamit points out Bibi really sides with the brass, his protestations to the contrary, notwithstanding.

  49. JoeBillScott Said:

    Only the usual liberal spinal reflexes are intact in Amos Harel’s nearly brain dead and essentially vegetative state.

    It appears that you are the brain dead one or should I say don’t exclude yourself. The fish stinks from it’s head and our fish ‘Netanyo-yo’ is our stinking fish and the origin and or enabler of most of our problems.

    Harel is the token right winger that Pravda allows and is not to be identified with the rag that publishes his weekly articles. BB appointed Ya’alon and approved or did not disapprove any of the IDF senior appointments. He rubber stamped the IDF reign of terror against the settlements and the pogroms. He has allowed Muslims attacking Jews on the Temple Mount and on the roads. He has not directed the IDF to use all methods, and there are, to curb attacks on Jews in Israel and in Y&S. He still pays the terrorists and still allows all construction material to enter Gaza, and it appears (against agreements) their use is not monitored as tunnel construction goes unabated.

    BB is the main problem and it seems you still are blaming Pravada. Either you have a reading comprehension problem or from ignorance have no clue as to who Harel is nor any understanding of what he wrote…. Above all you alluded to BB Netanyo-yo’s willingness given the opportunity to change the personnel and character of the IDF…. That alone proves you are brain dead or totally ignorant re: Israel and our political inner workings.

  50. The above crap, plopped down in the European-read-only rag called Haaretz, is the product of a person with one eye and only a fraction of a normal cerebral cortex, barely functioning. Only the usual liberal spinal reflexes are intact in Amos Harel’s nearly brain dead and essentially vegetative state.

    It would normally take a great deal of time to undo Obama’s seven years and the EU’s decade or more of brainwashing and turning of the upper echelons of the IDF and security services, but with WWIII imminent Netanyahu will have the maneuverability he needs to send all of these military traitors including their mouthpiece Harel where they belong. A suicide mission would be my first choice for them.