Abbas set to slam door on talks with Israel

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Resuscitates “revolving door” for terrorists

DEBKAfile Special Report October 22, 2013,

Palestinian Authority chairman Mahmoud Abbas has decided to derail talks with Israel directly after the release of the second batch of jailed Palestinians next week. US Secretary of State John Kerry will try to head off the crisis in the talks he brokered earlier this year, by cajoling Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu when they meet in Rome Wednesday, Oct. 23, to make Abbas an offer he can’t refuse, of sovereign Israel land.

DEBKAfile’s sources reveal that Kerry is thinking of a large chunk of Dead Sea coastal area and water, equal to about a third of the territory owned by Israel in this region.

On May 28, in an exclusive report, DEBKAfile first disclosed Kerry’s plan to save this Israeli concession for the final peace accord. He is now thinking of hauling it forward as bait to dissuade Abbas from walking out of the peace process.

But the Palestinian leader’s game plan entails more than this walkout, a step he has taken many times before. He is also unraveling the longstanding security cooperation with Israel for containing Palestinian terrorism.
This was the unspoken background to Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon’s first – typically taciturn -remarks Tuesday, Oct. 22 about the latest bout of Palestinian terrorist attacks.

“We take a grave view [of this wave of incidents]. It may be due to the atmosphere of incitement generated by the Palestinian Authority, recent religious events, any other causes – or even a kind of contagion,” said Ya’alon, adding: “There is no sign of what we may call a popular uprising, or what the Palestinians would call a ‘third intifada.’ We take every incident very seriously and stand ready for any escalation.”

DEBKAfile’s military sources translate two of the minister’s most opaque terms:
1. Third Palestinian intifada: Technically, he was correct in denying signs of its advent, but only because he held out on the whole picture. Yasser Arafat launched his second intifada 13 years ago after careful preparation.
He first dismantled the security cooperation existing between the Palestinian Authority, Israel and the American military advisers helping to make it work.
In 2013, Mahmoud Abbas is following in Arafat’s footsteps of 2000.

In recent weeks, DEBKAfile’s military sources report that the Palestinians in Ramallah are only going through the motions of working with Israel to combat terrorism. In the past, Israeli security and military authorities would inform Palestinian security services about suspected terrorists. They would then be questioned and the information passed back to their Israeli opposite numbers.

Now, on direct orders from the PA Chairman Abbas, suspects are detained only briefly before being released without being questioned.

Abbas has thus adopted Arafat’s “revolving door” method.

Senior military circles operating in the field of counterterrorism say that detaining terrorist suspects without interrogating them makes nonsense of the process. Letting them walk without questioning them about their organizational affiliations and secret cells, and referring the information to the IDF, makes the entire concept of security cooperation meaningless.
Palestinian security officers now understand that their job is to cooperate with the terrorists – not Israel.

2. Palestinian Authority incitement and religious events. Ya’alon was talking about Mahmoud Abbas’s latest propaganda campaign stunt, which raises the specter of an Israeli conspiracy to seize control of Temple Mount and destroy Al Aqsa Mosque.
This theme can always be counted on to strike an inflammatory chord in the Palestinian Muslim masses and fire the more radical up for attacks on Israeli and Jewish targets. Arafat understood this very well when he labeled his four-year suicide bombing campaign against Israel the “Al Aqsa intifada.”
The defense minister fully appreciates the fragile situation created by the recent Palestinian “lone wolf”attacks on Israeli soldiers and civilians.
He spoke in Hebron Tuesday, shortly after an IDF-Shin Bet unit shot dead Mohammed Assi, 28, the Jihad Islami operative who masterminded the Nov. 21, 2012 bombing of a bus in Tel Aviv. He was shot while resisting arrest from his hideout in a cave in the village of Bil’in, north of the 443 highway to Jerusalem.

The bus bombing, which left 27 people injured, took place shortly after Israel’s Defensive Cloud operation in the Gaza Strip ended in a ceasefire.
Mohammed Assi was brought to book the day before the Netanyahu-Kerry meeting in Rome. It was a reminder to Palestinians, including their leaders, that Israel’s Defense Forces eventually bring terrorists, whether killers or their masters, to book.

October 23, 2013 | 24 Comments »

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  1. dove Said:

    Your rhetoric makes no sense.

    Re-Read what I wrote which has nothing directly to do with the Canadian Army. And your rant makes no sense…..contextually or otherwise.

  2. I wish Debka were reliable in this case. I really don’t trust them.

    Please, oh puleeeeze, Abbas walk out on the talks!!! Make our day!!!

  3. @ dove:
    Yamit, your going too far. The Canadian Army was one of the ‘heros’ in WWII when they went to war to defeat the Nazis….long before the U.S. did.

    I think even adjusted for population, Canada let in less Jewish refugees than the USA from 1933-45

  4. @ yamit82:

    Attacking the Canadian Army because you have a problem with Jews in the diaspora is hitting below the belt.

    Now my comments to you are ‘awaiting moderation’. Big deal

  5. @ yamit82:

    Don’t think the Mitzva refers to the Canadian Army

    Yamit, your going too far. The Canadian Army was one of the ‘heros’ in WWII when they went to war to defeat the Nazis….long before the U.S. did. Thousands of lives were lost. Israel needs countries like Canada to be their friend and ally. The Canadian Army has also been instrumental in rooting out terrorists with it’s missions. Perhaps you are not aware that during the recent Throne Speech when Parliament reconvened after summer Prime Minister Harper announced AGAIN his support for Israel…not customary to say at a Throne speech.

    Your rhetoric makes no sense.

  6. @ Yidvocate:

    I resent your snobbish insinuations and presumptive tone while at the same time I share your scorn for the comfortable Jews that stay in the Golden Middenah by choice. Don’t assume that all Jews stuck in chutz l’eretz are there because that is what they prefer. When Yehoshuah led our people to our precious land they were all together and had been for 40 years. That is not the case today and some of us just can’t pack up and leave. That doesn’t make us any less Jewish or any less deserving of our piece of our G-d given land and if you think otherwise you are really part of the problem and certainly not the solution.

    .In blood and fire Judea fell!
    In blood and fire Judea will arise!

    Mount Sinai was to be a temporary stopover to pick up the Torah, but the goal of the Exodus was to bring the Jews to Israel.

    Imagine…..

  7. @ dove:

    Touche Dove!

    Yamit has to realize that we are all one and in fact share one neshamah. When you divide us and say “us” and “them” you make Hashem unhappy and engender sinias chinum, a prime cause for the destruction of the Bais Hamikdush. Why doesn’t he take issue with the Heredim that refuse IDF service and shun the state preferring to live in their own cloistered reality?

  8. @ yamit82:

    You are not included because “We and Us” in Israel

    Yamit, many of us have had this same discussion with you. IT TAKES TIME. Some are not headed for Israel, some are, and some will be. I have done my own survey of Israeli’s and the results of the younger generation is that they appreciate the contact they have with us in the diaspora and realize that for those of us who are strong supporters of Israel as a Jewish state may not be able to make it back to the homeland yet we have every right to claim Israel as our G-d given homeland. Take it up with Hashem Yamit.

  9. Thought that was what you were getting at. Trust me if we were about to cross the Jordan some 4,000 years ago, I’d be leading the charge. I know words are cheap but my present circumstances don’t permit me to “join my brothers”. As an only child with a 91 year old father, my time has not yet come but G-d willing it will and I count the days in chutz. We visit often. My son, daughter-in-law and 3 of my grandchildren live there and we have many cousins that do. My first thoughts of the day and my last and many in between are preoccupied by my, yes MY precious, G-d given Eretz Yisroel and it is just as much mine as yours! There are all kinds of heavy lifting to be done and you can rest assured I do more than my share right from where I’m sitting. I only wish half of your fellow heavy lifters shared the same concerns and did as much about them – the delusional anti-Jewish left that infests and controls the land of Israel.

    I resent your snobbish insinuations and presumptive tone while at the same time I share your scorn for the comfortable Jews that stay in the Golden Middenah by choice. Don’t assume that all Jews stuck in chutz l’eretz are there because that is what they prefer. When Yehoshuah led our people to our precious land they were all together and had been for 40 years. That is not the case today and some of us just can’t pack up and leave. That doesn’t make us any less Jewish or any less deserving of our piece of our G-d given land and if you think otherwise you are really part of the problem and certainly not the solution.

  10. Yidvocate Said:

    When will the stupid Jews finally realize that there is no living with these Arab enemies in our midst and send them packing to Jordan?

    Did not the Arab states expel all their Jews?

    Well it’s nigh time that we repaid the favor!

    There is simply no other solution. It is either us or them, conquer or capitulate.

    Sorry for a moment I was thrown off by your use of the words “We and US”.

    While I appreciate your sentiment and even agree with them, get something straight in the context of “We and Us” You are not included because “We and Us” in Israel are those doing or will have to do the heavy lifting in the future. True “WE” don’t have many fans but in reality you are nothing but a partisan fan… Safer to be a fan than a player eh???

    “Shall your brothers go to war while you stay here”?
    The Mitzvah of Military Service!!!!! (Numbers 32:6) Don’t think the Mitzva refers to the Canadian Army.

  11. @ yamit82:

    I live in the country that is (presently) the best friend to Israel in the whole world and who’s prime minister has such moral clarity and spine, that I can only wish he were the prime minister of Israel. I know that’s a give-away!

  12. When will the stupid Jews finally realize that there is no living with these Arab enemies in our midst and send them packing to Jordan?

    Did not the Arab states expel all their Jews?

    Well it’s nigh time that we repaid the favor!

    There is simply no other solution. It is either us or them, conquer or capitulate.

  13. If Netanyahu goes ahead with further releases of terrorists and making unilateral territorial concessions up front, what he can be sure of is he won’t get Palestinian concessions in exchange to justify an Israeli sellout to the Arabs – at least not the most important one he had been demanding and which he knows the Arabs will never give.