Originally posted one year ago.
Israel sees shale replacing oil
HAIFA, Israel, Nov. 7 (UPI) — The Israeli process for producing energy from oil shale will cut its oil imports by one-third, and will serve as a guide for other countries with oil shale deposits, according to one company.[..]
It would cost about $17 to produce a barrel of synthetic oil at the Hom Tov facility, meaning giant profit margins in a world of $45 to $60 per barrel crude.
The US has been developing technology that is competitive at $30 per barrel and get this,
Oil Shale Development in the United States
Estimates of the oil resource in place within the Green River Formation range from 1.5 trillion (Smith, 1980; Dyni, 2003) to 1.8 trillion barrels (Culburtson and Pitman, 1973; Federal Energy Administration, 1974). 2 About 1 trillion barrels 3 (Smith, 1980; Pitman, Pierce, and Grundy, 1989) are located within the Piceance Basin, meaning that this 1,200 square mile area in western Colorado holds as much oil as the entire world’s proven oil reserves (BP Statistical Review, 2005).
here is another
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13737475/
http://www.shalomctr.org/node/1176
http://shomreihasviva.tribe.net/thread/0d139cf8-492e-47f5-933c-fe7991757ecd
I have read a bit, admittedly not enough, about the Israeli shale process. As I understand it they mix raw shale with petroleum bottoms from a nearby refinery and then distill out a kind of synthetic crude. The process economics will depend on how they value the petroleum bottoms. My guess is zero value. I will dig for more details. If anyone can find a brief statement of the process steps in the Israeli scheme please pass them along.
The tar sands in Alberta, Canada, require a substantial amount of processing to be viable. Right now the money is on heat-energy, but for what it’s worth, in my estimation, that’s old thinking. It’s only the high cost of oil that makes them economically viable. Don’t know if the Israeli idea is applicable to Alberta.
When I originally did the post, I definitely read the $30 figure. Sorry I didn’t lnik to it. But you can search for it. Besides Israel can do it for $17.
Ted,
I would like to know where the $30/bbl figure comes from. If this were really the case every major producer in the world, starting with Exxon Mobil and Chevron and Shell would be doing it. They already own reserves in Colorado. I suspect the number is closer to $60-70 but I’m just guessing.
There are other interesting fuel alternatives, many of which require substantial paradigm shifts (the most difficult action in the entire galaxy), both in developing the fuels themselves and in actually using them.
Shalom Yamit 82,
The only shortage is viable political institutions.
Fuel is plentiful, whether it is nuclear generated, coal, oil or windmills in Massachuettes.
Just follow the el-gelt-o.
Kol tuv,
Axiomatic?Do you want chapter and verse? The Tenach does not fuel the auto or airplanes, heat homes etc.Americans are not in love with nuke power and I am not either there is also a shortage of raw material for fuel down the road. it is I believe more accurate in moon phases though in this I concur.
Shalom Yamit 82,
Your assumption is as accurate as the phases of the moon. You really offered an axiom.
Ironic to all this is that the experimental commercial vessel, N.S. Savannah, launched to demonstrate the viability of nuclear power propulsion instead of oil for fuel, America’s key figure in nuclear power was Jewish: Admiral Hyman Rickover.
The Tenach is more accurate than observations of the phases of the moon.
Kol tuv,
Shalom Ted,
Shucks; the Green River Formation range has LESS oil shale than Alberta, Canada’s boreal forest oil shale.
Canada’s Soncor and Syncrude (with equity participation by ExxonMobile) have already started initial operations in Alberta (Fort McMurray area).
Of course, Alberta’s oil shale, Colorado’s and Israel’s are priced out of the market if and when greenhouse gas emissions are codified as destroying human life and civilization (read: destroying preexisting Arab oil long-term contracts).
Kol tuv,
If America does not go for this I could only assume it would threaten entrenched Big money interests, Just like Detroit killed the railroads in the 50’s. and with their Federal Lackeys put final nail in coffen when theu approved Inter State highway programs.