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Radio Interview on the Critical Hour 03/06/24
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Topics:
- Why NATO Doesn’t Fear Escalation with Russia & Doesn’t Care About Russian Red Lines
Stoltenberg Shrugs Off Putin’s Warnings About NATO Weapons Striking Targets Inside Russia
https://news.antiwar.com/2024/06/02/stoltenberg-shrugs-off- putins-warnings-about-nato- weapons-striking-targets- inside-russia/
Putin warns West about consequences of long-range strikes on Russia — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union
Fyodor Lukyanov: Russia needs to explain its ‘red lines’ to the West — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union
US close to ‘fatal’ miscalculation – Moscow — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union
Opinion | The U.S. Should Define Russia’s Red Lines – The New York Times (nytimes.com)
Biden shows growing appetite to cross Putin’s red lines – The Washington Post
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-putin-red- lines-biden-1907796
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/the- path-to-peace-in-ukraine-runs- directly-through-putins-red- lines/
Opinion | Ukraine is crossing Russia’s ‘red lines’ with impunity. It’s a lesson for Biden. – The Washington Post
https://www.dw.com/en/lithuania-warns-against-self- imposed-red-lines-on-russia/a- 68525566https://www.themoscowtimes. com/2023/08/23/moscow-has- shown-it-will-not-cross-its- own-red-lines-in-the-war- a82227Any “red lines” left for Putin? – Modern Diplomacy
Testing Russia’s red lines could become a fatal experiment | Responsible Statecraft - Biden’s Belgorod Escalation Revisited
Ukraine can use U.S. weapons for limited strikes in Russia, Biden says – The Washington Post
Under Pressure, Biden Allows Ukraine to Use U.S. Weapons to Strike Inside Russia – The New York Times (nytimes.com) - Poland & the Baltics to Build New “Iron Curtain” Defensive Fortifications
Poland Reinstates Buffer Zone Along Belarusian Border – https://sputnikglobe.com/20240603/poland-reinstates- buffer-zone-along-belarusian- border–1118751503.html
Poland rolls out plans for fortifications along its border with Russia and Belarus | AP News
Poland unveils details of €2.4bn fortification of eastern borders | Notes From Poland
I have just read this comment section with some amusement. And my impression is: Kindergarten.
You’re all like children.
Peloni and Mr. Belman are the adults. Laura, Herr Michael S. (Heil, Herr Michael!) and most of the others, you’re all toddlers.
You won’t believe it, but listen, I’ll tell you the thruth: nobody cares about your opinion you’ve copied from somewhere! It’s irrelevant. So, why are you getting so upset, so worked up?
What rubbish is being spread here. No new ideas. You waste so much energy. Don’t you have a life of your own?
Oh, Putin! Putin!! Putin!!! Oh, Mr. Belman, you are a friend of Putin and therefore against Israel! How dare you!
Good night, children! Calm down and try to get some sleep. Jeszcze Polska nie zginela – or better – Am Yisrael chai. Tomorrow will be a good day. 😉
@seymour
Nicely explained!
For a complicated situation the facts are remarkably simple. Following the demise of the Soviet Union there was back slapping all around within NATO and in particular the United States state department, to wit, “We won the war”, the Cold War that is per Condoleeza Rice in 2008. Russia never perceived things that way. In any event the State Department moved on to their next project The Rules Based International Order which they continue to pursue with a vengeance through a variety of institutions including the infamous WEF supported by numerous malicious oligarchs such as Gates and Soros. It’s all about “the end of history” the famous article written even before the demise of the Soviet Union, though it was clearly on its last legs, by so called geopolitical expert Francis Fukuyama. He argued naively that the west is the best, political and economic liberty forever for one and all. The west may be the best but it’s not for everyone and itself is showing signs of old age. In order to accomplish their wet dream it is necessary to complete the job vis a vis Russia, to neutralize it as much as Carthage was obliterated. It’s as simple as that and now it’s taking us to the brink of WW III. The several Putin haters on this site if nothing else need to acknowledge that this project, rules based order, is being driven by some of the stupidest leaders the west has ever produced. You may think Putin is evil but he’s not stupid. And they are taking us where you can expect stupid people to take you as you cheer them on.
No one here trusts Biden. No one here defends Biden. However, there are several people here defending Putin. Putin also serves the devil. You can loathe Biden while still acknowledging Putin is evil instead of defending him. I’m speaking about others here, not you Michael since I know you aren’t a Putin apologist.
Sebastien,
In the language of “Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics”, I take it you consider the US to be a far more reliable friend of israel (Yes, there are such things) than Hungary, Russia and Ukraine. If you look up the records for Palau, Micronesia and the Marshall Islands, Nauru, Australia and Canada, I think you’ll also find close fits. Ascribe that to our common language and history, but especially our common basis in the Bible — which, of course is our connection to Israel. The Bible only has meaning in our lives, to the extent that we make its living author a part of our lives. This reflects in what we do, such as vote in the UN.
Bear,
I agree with you concerning Putin. In spite of all you say, he actually has much more consistency of character than Biden, whom I don’t trust as far as I can throw him. Don’t be fooled by his drooling insanity — he’s dangerous, because he serves the Devil.
@Ted, your Russian leader Putin slams Israel, recognizes Palestine and thinks Erodgan would be a great peace interlocutor besides him.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-says-gaza-conflict-not-a-war-but-total-destruction-of-civilian-population/
“Allies.” Can’t live with ’em.
Can’t live without ’em.” And that’s what must change.
{“Zionism} can and must be built in one country.”
Now, why does that sound so familiar. 😀
I googled: {name of country} Voting record on Israel UN Watch
Very instructive
Map of countries that recognize “Palestine”. Nearly all that haven’t done so, are friends of Ukraine.
US, Canada, UK, Denmark, Finland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Belgium, France, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, Czechia, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Moldova, Armenia, Italy, Greece
Those who recognize the Pals include, Russia, Belarus, Azerbaijan, North Korea, PR China and Iran — all Russian allies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine#/media/File:Palestine_recognition_only.svg
Ukraine just recognized Palestine.
@Peloni, I was presenting Ukraine’s position, which is very logical based on past actions of Putin.
I would prefer that Putin stop being the aggressor and start caring about human lives and not land expansion. Since that is not likely people will keep getting killed because of him and his fellow Russian Imperialists!
@Bear
So you would see Ukraine destroyed rather than agree to any compromise? I would argue that such advocacy would make for a poor negotiating position and needlessly a great many additional deaths.
@Peloni, as you know we will always disagree on this subject of Ukraine – Russia.
Your question is applicable to a mediator and not a negotiator.
I would never negotiate with someone I completely thought was a liar and any agreement that we might reach would have me completely screwed and worse off than before the negotiation. Which is why Ukraine says it is not interested in negotiating with Putin.
Anyway I am done on this again! Probably should not have entered into commentary on this again. Nothing is resolved and there is nothing to negotiate and no election is at state!
@Bear
Ukraine is not in a position to negotiate anything that the US doesn’t want negotiated, and in particular, they are not in a position to negotiate an end to the war with Russia, or the Istanbul peace conference wouldn’t have been derailed with such ease after the arrival of Boris Johnson.
Interesting to hear. So riddle me this, as an experienced negotiator, how would you get two people, say a feuding couple, to deal with the problems which exist between them? Would you support the wife’s claims as fact, and try to have the husband capitulate to her biased claims, or would you try to find common ground with common understandings, enforcing an appreciation of what each of the parties fails to grasp about the other side’s position and thereby try to build a level of understanding, even if in place of lost trust, from which to work. You see, you aren’t the only person to have experience in negotiations, but you do have an overly involved interest in accepting the Ukrainians at their word, and as a negotiator, shouldn’t you remain somewhat more detached than the uniquely partisan positions for which you have voiced support? More than a negotiator, you honestly sound like a Ukrainian advocate, and that would make you a poor choice at the negotiating table, wouldn’t you agree? Indeed, the memory wars which exist between these two feuding groups are compounded by the hopes of ultimate victory by either side, so negotiations would require some real sacrifices by either side, for which the presence of propaganda spouting advocates (not referencing you) would hardly play a beneficial role.
I think Mr. Goldfinger has a way to get Putin and Zelensky to see eye to eye.
https://youtu.be/Mx9z99YJ_7s
You simply cannot be pro-Israel and pro-Russia. It’s a total conflict. Israpundit must make a choice. Russians are supporting hamas and hate Jews.
I’m just telling you what Trump said. Trump supporters who love putin/russia don’t want to believe it though.
Bear Klein is the only one speaking sense of this issue. Peloni’s apologetics and shilling for the nazi pro-hamas Russians disgusts me.
@Peloni
Ukraine will NOT negotiate with Putin because he wants a pause in hostilities prior to starting up again to try and take the rest of Ukraine. They are very logical here because Putin and Russia captured Ukrainian land in 2014 by military force.
Then started up the hostilities again in 2022, with a massive attack.
The west is supporting Ukraine but this is Ukraine’s war versus Russia, started by Russia. Putin cares only about taking land and not about lives. Be they Russian or Ukrainian.
Side note, I spent a lot of my adult life as a negotiator and never heard such a convoluted complex description of it has been done by you of negotiation.
One does not negotiate with one who one has nothing to gain but only can lose by negotiating with them. That is what Zelensky and Ukraine believe about Putin. It is not so complex. They believe they have nothing to gain by negotiating with him, as he is a proven liar who has ambitions to capture all of their country by force, if they are unwilling to surrender it!
@Laura
Putin wasn’t bullied into quiescence under Trump. Trump’s advantage with Russia sprang from something altogether different than his big stick bravado. Putin knew that Trump had no interest in waging war with Russia if not provoked to do so, which was altogether unique when compared to the hostile actions taken by the other American presidents besides Trump. Trump’s worldview did not require he conquer or provoke Russia, but quite the contrary, and Putin recognized this as well. Due to the Russia Hoax, Trump’s hands were tied in his first term, unfortunately, or much of what went unresolved or worsened under Trump, could have been significantly addressed to the satisfaction of both the US and Russia, much to the chagrin of the CCP, but this was not to be. Indeed, this was but one more aspect of the urgency by the Uniparty Dems and RINOs to carry out the Covid election coup against the will of the American people, as the American oligarchs selected Biden over Trump.
Laura, you said,
1. Biden is weak? Why? Becaause he falls up stairs? Because his son is/was a hopeless crack addict? Because he can’t say “itsatsazmgbh”? This “weak” man is the leader of the strongest country in history! He says, “Zizzerzzzzerzuz!” and world leaders snap to attention! He can garner more votes than there are people in places, win 99.9% of the 3AM vote! He can sway the US Supreme Court to look the other way! The Mainstream Media endorse everything he says! He is a MIRACLE WORKER! Without question, he is the most powerful man in the world. He is NOT weak.
2. “Russia felt it safe to invade Ukraine”…. which got him…WHERE? He has lost half a million of his young men, the Black Sea fleet is hiding out for fear of a country with no navy, and after over two years his “special operation”is an abject failure. He stepped into Biden’s trap, and he can’t get out of it.
3.Why is Israpundit still backing the anti-Semitic, hamas supporting Russians?
Count me out of this. I’m not backing anyone, certainly not Putin! I’m just telling the truth: Unless God intervenes, his goose — and the rest of us with it — is cooked.
@Laura
It has never been up to Putin.
Russia never felt it was safe to invade Ukraine, which is why they tried to negotiate for 8yrs with an opponent who acted in bad faith over and over again. However, when the American election was rigged to return the Obama acolytes to power, it was a clear sign that, while it was not safe to respond to the West’s belligerence, it was necessary, and even still, the Russians tried for a full year more to come to some settlement with the West, but the American determination to have war was never more clear. In truth, the only basis of victory for the West was their savage sanctions war on Russia, which turned out to be as ineffective as the heavy maintenance intense Abrahms tanks in the muddy Ukrainian terrain. In fact, Russia has gained many advantages due to the gross mismanagement of the Americans who act on political goals rather than on actionable intelligence, while the Russians are careful to consider their actions carefully. More than any other reason, this is why Russia is winning the war, rather than suffering a return to the 1990’s as the West are intent upon achieving.
I don’t want nice when it comes to dealing with Russia. I actually think behind the scenes Trump was very tough, he said as much. He claims that he told Putin he’d bomb Moscow if Russia invaded Ukraine. So it’s funny that he has the image of being pro-Russia or Russia friendly by both the right-wing supporters of Russia as well as the left-wing anti-Trump forces. The reason why Russia felt it safe to invade Ukraine is because Putin correctly viewed Biden as weak rather than belligerent as Russia apologists claim. Why is Israpundit still backing the anti-Semitic, hamas supporting Russians?
It IS up to putin. He started the war, so it’s up to him to end it.
Peloni,
What, in all that you just said, indicates that the Biden Administration plans to seriously negotiate with Putin? Look at what you said:
— the West will not negotiate with him.
— Partisans, who promote propaganda in place of such empathetic understandings of one’s enemy, can not negotiate.
— The brutish dictates which emanate from Washington are bereft of the negotiating postures
Oh, naughty, naughty Biden! Not empathetic! Brutish!
Do you think Obama III, by “Biden” or whatever name you call him, is impressed? Those epithets are reserved for MAGA folks, like Donald Trump. They are NEVER applied to the other camp. Do you think you can shame Biden into being nice? The war will continue, until God ordains otherwise.
@Bear
The caricature which you paint of Putin explains well why the West will not negotiate with him. In fact, the art of negotiation requires a deep appreciation for the issues and concerns of those with whom you intend to negotiate. Only by adopting such a careful understanding might a dialogue be begun and a settlement achieved. Partisans, who promote propaganda in place of such empathetic understandings of one’s enemy, can not negotiate.
The brutish dictates which emanate from Washington are bereft of the negotiating postures which were the hallmark of American foreign policy til the Soviets were defeated by the Soviets, and the Americans felt they could do what they like while others suffer the consequences. Such dictates prove to be poor doppelgangers for diplomacy, but they are what has been substituted as diplomacy by the likes of Nuland and Blinken in pursuit of what they want regardless of risks involved.
Only one threatening Nuclear War is Putin and his people.
Why do they do this because they are scared of conventional war with NATO because as we have seen in their war with only Ukraine (not USA military, Brits, French……………etc) they have had up to 500,000 dead and wounded.
They have not even faced an air-force or long range missiles………….. Nothing remotely close. They have not faced a military that can coordinate air, land and sea forces simultaneously. Yet they do not have the capability to do this themselves as they demonstrated in their initial failed attack on Ukraine in 2022, when they failed in capturing Kiev.
Putin does not want to stop war. He wants a pause to regroup and then take more territory. So what is the point of negotiating with him on his terms.
Putin & company are greedy they want land and more land. How many die to get it they do not care!
Maybe someday a peaceful Russian leadership will develop and take charge. No clue if this is remotely possible!
I think you’re missing the poiht, Peloni: Biden doesn’t WANT to negotiate. You even admit this — and in case you haven’t noticed, Biden (along with his lords or retainers) control the G-7. You seem to have a cushy-mushy view of this administration. These people have led Europe into a major ground war, which has only just begun, along with a war in the Middle East, which has also only just begun. How long will it take, before you get the message: THIS IS NOT AN ACCIDENT.
This is the reality. All of your “De-Nazification” bullshit and other Putin propaganda isn’t worth the toilet paper it’s written upon. This war isn’t up to Putin: It’s up to Biden, Biden wants it to continue, and it will continue for the foreseeable future. Capice?
Felix,
Your moralizing is downright comical. Do you think Trotsky will arrive on a great white horse, and save humanity? Go back to sleep.
If the Russian’s cared about their own men and women they would stop this war.
Amazing that anyone who considers themselves a moral and enlighten person can support Russian Imperialists in this immoral land grab for the power of the Russian elites. Poor Russian soldiers, let alone what this war has done to the lives of regular Ukrainians.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-military-planner-says-doesnt-104723763.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&segment_id=DY_VTO&ncid=crm_19908-1202929-20240605-0&bt_user_id=Ilcxj0LJni32Q%2Bbheag%2Fd9Zj8y%2FKylNQBVA%2BGc9eC2b93L4EgSnR17%2Bbgh1c%2BJp1&bt_ts=1717590456998
Peloni
In regard to your arguments against our opponents
I argue that we have a non partisan approach
And that we are the opposite of Bear etc al.
It is not being partisan to examine the history of this conflict Russia v NATO in a truthful fashion.
But when I raised points on facts of history to Laura etc al there was TOTAL avoidance
Examination of history especially the immediate history is objective truth territory
Cannot advance without this groundrule being accepted
Israel must place maximum importance in using what influence it has in the world in controlling and ending drives to nuclear war which are inherent in the NATO v Ukraine situation. If this is not successful nobody will have anything anyway. Hezbollah fires are sign of a mindset.
Michael
I think they will not rest until Russia is totally humiliated, or unless a major nuclear exchange ends the madness.
Answer
Yes to first part
Second part suggests nuclear war as ending the madness
Your words. Is it necessary for me to comment?
My hope is in God, Trump and the American people, in that order.
Answer
God…I am an atheist. I have not the slightest belief in God.
Trump…I defend him against lefty Fascists and Democratic Party Fascists. He would use nuclear.
American people…yes with their history of fighting for freedom against Britain – but present and future not under any present leaders.
No more to day
Peloni
Bear and Michael do not discuss in good faith – meaning there has to be trust or confidence that points made are dealt with. I have not the slightest confidence that this can happen. The historical basis of this very dangerous situation for life on earth has been denied to us when I just two weeks ago put key points down on paper. All were mostly dodged by ignoring.
Not healthy to have to repeat.
We need to find another way.
@Bear
It takes two to negotiate, so with the notable refusal of the West to negotiate anly settlement, your suggestion here would necessitate a Russian surrender, which will not come without the force of arms defeating Russia utterly, and even then, as I mentioned before, any threat of a Russian defeat would draw the Russians into considering their nuclear defense, presuming once more that the psychopaths in the West do not precipitate such a defense with their own nuclear strike in support of their unhinged and unrestrained attempt to fulfill their long sought delusions of victory over the Russians at long last.
@Bear
@Michael
Yes, well this is what they said about Russia’s economy defeating the West’s economic war made against it, which proved not too sustainable. To be certain, Russia has no interest in opening the Pandora’s box with NATO directly, even as Russia controls an expanding arsenal of hypersonic weapons to which the US/NATO has no defense. Still, I dispute that it would necessarily be a certain victory for the West should the menacing psychopaths leading the war effort against Russia ultimately have their way, and to be quite clear, Russia would use her nuclear arsenal in defense of any war which threatens her national survival, which would be true of any nation controlling nuclear weapons. Notably, to date, it has only been the US which has employed nuclear weapons in a war, and that was not due to their fear of actually losing that war, but only to support their path towards a shorter victory, the debate over which is never far behind the mention of this fact.
What has been shown to be certain fact in the West’s attempt to humiliate, corner and isolate Russia, is that the West does not have the means by which to match Russia’s production of munitions and war materials which is due to Russia’s still expanding war time economy. This is not in dispute as it has been openly discussed by no less an advocate for the West’s perspective than the hawkish Rand corporation. Indeed, the lack of munitions is just one of three deficits which have fed the Russian advantage in this war, the others being a fatiguing finite number of Ukrainian forces which the West would happily see consumed in this war, and a majority number of nations which refuse concede to the US demands to keep Russia economically isolated.
Whereas the US can boast of a significant air force, it lacks significant ground forces for which it can boast, as well as the combat experience which was noted among Russia’s disadvantages at the beginning of the war. Over the past two years, Russia has gained significant combat experience, even as it can fairly be noted that it is only facing Ukrainian forces, which the West has gone to significant expense to arm and train without the expected punishing results which they had initially boasted would come. Besides the combat experience, Russia has, as noted earlier, expanded its military readiness and it war production manufacturing, which the West has shown slim to no interest in duplicating. Beyond all of this, the population in the West have grown weary with the forever wars to which the never failing war party has never grown weary of losing over the past thirty years. Should the West state one of their infamous black flag operations against itself, this later point might of course change, but the lack of existing logistics and manufacturing in the West will drive any advantage it might have in technology to a stand still, questioning whether they would, once again, employ the nuclear option to shorten a war which they might not otherwise win.
I have always been of the mind that the nuclear option would never be used, but the reality is that the above mentioned psychopaths leading the West are quite the unhinged fools of strategy and restraint, which makes such an argument less arguable, and which is only reinforced by the recent steps taken by the West’s puppet regime to target Russia’s early warning system to detect a nuclear attack.
Ted,
Putin’s “Summer Offensive” has already ground to a halt; and this week he topped 1200 Russians killed per day; and the latest Western arms package has only begun arriving. He has also lost over 20% of his Black Sea Fleet, including its flagship. He cannot take Odessa, plain and simple.
“Russia loses 1,200 troops in 24 hours, according to Ukraine Kyiv also claimed it had destroyed 14 Russian tanks, 22 armoured personnel carriers and 47 artillery pieces. If accurate, the figure would mark one of the highest daily Russian casualty totals of the war.3 days ago”
— https://uk.news.yahoo.com/russias-creeping-advance-costing-1-191213800.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKB_J4kr_Oa3ZR3XKxiC3j1bVTThmoM8h6ya2Ky0A_dMCIvDHYKwThR5b0NTLqOKIJ24-ZIn6V3IqIPSY5N92o4MYpKwN_anZTcJM2h-oGrH5UOQjFJZZ7z217rMYyorSoLH6l-YRlwGVHUskC4ghb6M71qUTHUIlRnQtyt–cQA
Bear,
I doubt that Putin can call it quits and save face. The Neocons have Versailles in their blood. As long as Biden is in office, I think they will not rest until Russia is totally humiliated, or unless a major nuclear exchange ends the madness. My hope is in God, Trump and the American people, in that order.
Russian military way too weak to beat NATO in a conventional war.
Nuclear War is a loser for everyone.
So maybe Russia should find a way to stop this aggression.
Putin can take Odessa and cut off Ukraine from the Black Sea. There are ways.
Frank Adam, I love your use of the word, “congruent”. It’s so mathematical!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCongruence_%2528geometry%2529&psig=AOvVaw0OB-27N_CgLn8X4ZcTTrnD&ust=1717625660722000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCKC_lbH8woYDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE
Congruentulations!
In response to
https://news.antiwar.com/2024/06/02/stoltenberg-shrugs-off-putins-warnings-about-nato-weapons-striking-targets-inside-russia/
Some pundits expect us to take Putin seriously, saying, essentially, that
“This time, Vladimir really, really, really will DO IT!
It’s the old “little boy who called WOLF!”, all over again. Let’s assume Putin, in order to gain credibility, will use, say, a small nuke against Ukraine.
Q: Will Biden retalliate (assuming he’s still in power)?
A: Of course, he will THREATEN to, and have good reason to in the eyes of millions of people. That leaves his options entirely in his hands; and knowing that “Dark Brandon” is a raving, unhinged lunatic, he probably will — in an unpredictable way, at an unpredictable time. Result: the annihilation of Russia, and a good part of the rest of the world.
Now, let’s assume that Putin goes whole hog, and sends thousands of missiles to the US. Result: the annihilation of Russia, and a good part of the rest of the world.
Putin is a dictator, and a rather heartless one at that; but I don’t think he is suicidal. Biden, on the other hand, and the people who hold him up, just might be that crazy.