@Bear
@yeshol
There is no time for a civil war in the US as the govt has been overthrown, and the control of the govt is no longer in the hands of the people, but in the hands of the American oligarchs. So something so simple and ill advised as a civil war will only aid the Oligarchs in solidifying their control over the people. Civil wars stem from the divisions of the people, and in fact it is vitally important to recognize that the divisions in the US lie between the Oligarchs and the people.
In reading yeshol’s comments, I would argue that the hundreds or thousands of people who are in fact guilty of open sedition against the govt should be addressed as the law provides, and as judged according to existing legal statutes. This does not require a civil war, but rather it requires a return of good governance, government by the consent of the governed, and the employment of just justices in passing judgement. But first Trump must be elected, and this will require that the nation focus upon a unifying opposition to the American Oligarchs who truly believe that they are above any consequences of justice.
Hence, not only is there no time for a civil war, there will hopefully be no need for it either.
@Yeshol sounds like you are proposing a civil war in the USA?
Before taking on the illegals, he must take on the hundreds [perhaps thousands] of people guilty of sedition under his first presidency. I think his first step should be to build security prisons for them.
I am not against deportations of illegals and certainly want those with criminal records deported. When I was young I worked in the Criminal Justice System and deporting masses of people (who are unknown where they are) is simply a big task.
Trump started the wall but never finished it. I hope he wins the election and deports as many illegals as he can.
Using the military inside the USA is illegal and I am a skeptical he will figure away around this law.
Trump said he would use a “fast track deportations” which puts the onus on the aliens to prove they lived in the US for more than two years. Thus at least 10 million aliens will be quickly deported.
He will also use a law that entitles him to deport all aliens with criminal records.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
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@Bear
If one can deport a 100,000 Illegals that will be an accomplishment!
So too was Trump’s ability to build the WALL, to reform the VA, and to finally move the US embassy to Israel’s capital. Notably, none of these accomplishments were taken without excessive opposition, and these are but a few of the significant victories won in the face of gross adversity which Trump achieved in his first term while facing down a growing insurrection against him. Hopefully his second term will be as fruitful as his first, hopefully he will find the means by which to reclaim America for Americans in his second term, and most importantly, hopefully he will actually have a second term to pursue these and other more important issues which will Make America Great Again. Time will tell, of course, but I do believe that he will have no choice but to do as he has stated and ship the illegals out of the country.
If one can deport a 100,000 Illegals that will be an accomplishment!
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@Bear
@yeshol
There is no time for a civil war in the US as the govt has been overthrown, and the control of the govt is no longer in the hands of the people, but in the hands of the American oligarchs. So something so simple and ill advised as a civil war will only aid the Oligarchs in solidifying their control over the people. Civil wars stem from the divisions of the people, and in fact it is vitally important to recognize that the divisions in the US lie between the Oligarchs and the people.
In reading yeshol’s comments, I would argue that the hundreds or thousands of people who are in fact guilty of open sedition against the govt should be addressed as the law provides, and as judged according to existing legal statutes. This does not require a civil war, but rather it requires a return of good governance, government by the consent of the governed, and the employment of just justices in passing judgement. But first Trump must be elected, and this will require that the nation focus upon a unifying opposition to the American Oligarchs who truly believe that they are above any consequences of justice.
Hence, not only is there no time for a civil war, there will hopefully be no need for it either.
@Yeshol sounds like you are proposing a civil war in the USA?
Before taking on the illegals, he must take on the hundreds [perhaps thousands] of people guilty of sedition under his first presidency. I think his first step should be to build security prisons for them.
I am not against deportations of illegals and certainly want those with criminal records deported. When I was young I worked in the Criminal Justice System and deporting masses of people (who are unknown where they are) is simply a big task.
Trump started the wall but never finished it. I hope he wins the election and deports as many illegals as he can.
Using the military inside the USA is illegal and I am a skeptical he will figure away around this law.
Trump said he would use a “fast track deportations” which puts the onus on the aliens to prove they lived in the US for more than two years. Thus at least 10 million aliens will be quickly deported.
He will also use a law that entitles him to deport all aliens with criminal records.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
@Bear
So too was Trump’s ability to build the WALL, to reform the VA, and to finally move the US embassy to Israel’s capital. Notably, none of these accomplishments were taken without excessive opposition, and these are but a few of the significant victories won in the face of gross adversity which Trump achieved in his first term while facing down a growing insurrection against him. Hopefully his second term will be as fruitful as his first, hopefully he will find the means by which to reclaim America for Americans in his second term, and most importantly, hopefully he will actually have a second term to pursue these and other more important issues which will Make America Great Again. Time will tell, of course, but I do believe that he will have no choice but to do as he has stated and ship the illegals out of the country.
If one can deport a 100,000 Illegals that will be an accomplishment!