Survivors of massacre on IDF base say they passed information up the chain of command on digging, mapping, training near the fence long before mass onslaught, but were ignored
By SHIRA SILKOFF, TOI Today, 4:17 pm
Hamas members pictured at the border a month before the terror group’s October 7 onslaught (screenshot used in accordance with clause 27a of the Copyright Law)
The brutal Hamas massacre on October 7 was preceded by months of warning signs noted by IDF surveillance soldiers and disregarded as unimportant by intelligence officials, according to eyewitness accounts given in recent days.
At least three months prior to the attack, surveillance soldiers serving on a base in Nahal Oz reported signs that something unusual was underway at the already-tumultuous Gaza border, situated a kilometer from them.
The activity reported by the soldiers included information on Hamas operatives conducting training sessions multiple times a day, digging holes and placing explosives along the border. According to the accounts of the soldiers, no action was taken by those who received the reports.
IDF surveillance soldiers, referred to in Hebrew as tatzpitaniyot, belong to the Combat Intelligence Corps and operate along the country’s borders, as well as throughout the West Bank.
The surveillance soldiers are referred to by many as “the eyes of the army” as they provide real-time intelligence information to soldiers in the field, 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
The soldiers gather information through a variety of cameras, sensors and maps, and are expected to be acutely aware of every small change that happens in the 15-30 kilometers of land that they are each responsible for monitoring.
Once relevant information has been gathered by the surveillance soldiers, it is passed up the chain of command, including to intelligence officials who then determine what steps need to be taken. However, according to the accounts of two surveillance soldiers stationed on a base in Kibbutz Nahal Oz, the signs of what was to come on October 7 were never taken seriously.
Yael Rotenberg (Kan TV screenshot; used in accordance with clause 27a of the Copyright Law)<
In a segment aired on Kan News on Wednesday evening, two soldiers, Yael Rotenberg and Maya Desiatnik, recounted their experiences in the months before the attack and up until 6:30 a.m. on Saturday, October 7.
Rotenberg recalled frequently seeing many Palestinians dressed in civilian clothing approach the border fence with maps, examining the ground around it and digging holes. One time, when she passed the information on, she was told that they were farmers, and there was nothing to worry about.
Rotenberg was asleep when the attack began, and of the surveillance soldiers who were in the living quarters that morning, she is the only one to have survived. Desiatnik, who was on duty, was the only other surveillance soldier at the base not killed or abducted.
Hamas terrorists cross the Israel-Gaza border fence on October 7, 2023 (Kan TV screenshot; used in accordance with Clause 27a of the Copyright Law)
“It’s infuriating,” she told Kan of the intelligence failure. “We saw what was happening, we told them about it, and we were the ones who were murdered.”
Maya Desiatnik (Kan TV screenshot; used in accordance with clause 27a of the Copyright Law)<
The Hamas terrorists would train at the border fence nonstop, Desiatnik told Kan. At first, it was once a week, then once a day, and then nearly constantly.
In addition to passing on information about the frequency of the training going on at the fence, the surveillance soldier said she collected evidence of the content of the training, which included how to drive a tank and how to cross into Israel via a tunnel. As the activity on the border increased, she realized that “it was just a matter of time” until something happened.
Former tatzpitaniyot Amit Yerushalmi and Noa Melman corroborated the accounts of the two survivors in an interview published by Channel 12 on Thursday morning.
Yerushalmi had finished her mandatory service a month prior to October 7, and had observed the increased activity on the Gaza border in the months leading up to her release.
“We sat on shifts and saw the convoy of vans. We saw the training, people shooting and rolling, practicing taking over a tank. The training went from once a week to twice a week, from every day to several times a day,” she told Channel 12.
“We saw patrols along the border, people with cameras and binoculars. It happened 300 meters from the fence. There were a lot of disturbances, people went down to the fence and detonated an outrageous amount of explosives, the amount of explosives was crazy.”
Like Rotenberg and Desiatnik, Yerushalmi said that she passed the information along, but that nobody seemed to take it seriously.
“I saw what was happening, I wrote everything down on the computer and passed it on. I don’t know what happened with it, we don’t actually know what they do with the information.”
Melman finished her mandatory service some nine months ago, but told Channel 12 that even then, there were indications of what was to come, including a mock border fence set up by Hamas in order for the terrorists to practice, again and again, blowing up the border and crossing over to the other side.
“Our commanders told us to report what we saw, but everyone treated it like it was normal, like it was routine,” she said.
On Wednesday evening, video footage was acquired and aired by Channel 12 in which a convoy of white pickup trucks — which are favored by Hamas terrorists and were used on October 7 — can be seen driving past the border fence, at one point coming to a halt while those driving observed the border.
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While Channel 12 has said that the footage was taken a month before October 7, this claim has been disputed, with other reports claiming it was captured just one week prior.
A Ynet military correspondent called it “old news” in a post on X, formerly Twitter. “These are pickup trucks with Hamas operatives; they have been patrolling the Gaza border road every day since 2015,” he added.
A report from the news outlet from 2015 backs up his claim, with footage of Hamas patrolling on the then newly constructed border road, some 300 meters from the fence.
At the time, Ynet reported that it was unclear if the patrols were being carried out for intelligence purposes, or if their purpose was to intimidate the IDF.
Yerushalmi explained to Channel 12 that the patrol featured in the recent video differed from the regular patrols, although she did not explain why.
“When we saw the convoy of pickup trucks, we said it was suspicious, it shouldn’t happen, it’s not something they do on a daily basis. In the two years I served, I never saw anything like it.”
In the weeks before October 7, Rotenberg noticed that the efforts of the Hamas soldiers were concentrated at two specific points of the area she was responsible for tracking. However, she continued to hear from her commanders that it wasn’t important and that there was nothing that could be done about it.
On October 7, the areas highlighted by Rotenberg were just two of the multiple points along the fence through which 2,500 Hamas terrorists stormed into Israel.
Desiatnik began her shift at 3:30 a.m. on October 7. It started as normal, she recounted to Kan, but at 6:30 a.m., everything changed.
“We saw people running to the border from every direction, running with guns. We saw motorbikes and pickup trucks driving straight at the fence,” she said. “We watched them blow up the fence and destroy it. And we might have been crying but we continued to do our jobs at the same time.”
It was then that their cameras were cut.
Hamas terrorists beneath an IDF post at the Israel-Gaza border fence on October 7, 2023 (Kan TV screenshot; used in accordance with Clause 27a of the Copyright Law)<
Speaking to Channel 12, Yerushalmi touched on what the survivors of the massacre feel is a complete failure of the IDF to protect them after failing to take their warnings seriously.
“They [the surveillance soldiers] understood what was happening and knew exactly what to do. Usually with these events, you understand very quickly what is happening.
“We were taught that we would report on the incident, we would direct helicopters to the scene, and someone would come and save us,” she said. “Our mission was to protect the kibbutz, not ourselves. They always said that someone would come and protect us.”
The Left runs every institution Israel. The average soldier is not Left Wing and hence can be ignored by the corrupt Left in the IDF, Mossad, Shin Bet and Police.
It is those last four deeply corrupted institutions that failed along with their apologists in the Leftist Press.
No different in the US where everyone knows that Hamas trained in Iran and Lebanon and the Pentagon has said over and over they see no evidence of Iranian involvement.
As Ted points out below the entire Left Wing Establishment was only concerned with one thing in the last year and that was the overdue reform of Israel’s Left Wing Extremist Judiciary that is beyond incompetence and corruption, but the Left likes it that way and looks like it sacrificed 1,400 Israeli Jews needlessly and wantonly by distracting the country of Israel with its stupid demonstrations and harassment of decent Israeli Jews.
Who led this? Ex- PM Ehud Barak, Jeffrey Epstein’s good buddy. Ehud apparently likes raping underage girls provided by Epstein. He couldn’t get more girls from Epstein as he was murdered in jail so he raped Israel instead.
One word to describe this: evil.
It seems like a conspiracy! the intelligence failure is a disgrace. I could not take out of Israel a bottle of wine nor a Menorah without being pull aside and searched and questioned. Bibi, said we all will have to give AND ANSER FOR THIS EVEN I. Hell yea, you will. It maybe when you stand before your maker and answer as to why you let your solders sleep.
Hamas, attacked and then pulled back. Why? Maybe, they received a phone call giving them 24 hours to do what you want. They had the element of surprise – literally caught the Israelites with their pants down. Why not throw everything they had against Israel? Maybe, they did. Maybe their forces are not as strong as they claim while hiding among women and children.
USA was right on top of the situation like they already knew beforehand. Maybe Joe made the phone call. The news cycle is short. Israel and Gaza is the only thing on the news. Can’t find a good story on Ukraine nor the Obien corruption scandal. Now, it’s shifted again…. killer running loose in Maine.
The truth will not come out this side of heaven. Only when Messiah shows up and he better be more then human, or Hamas will kill him. I am sick to death with the cowards in the Israel government that will not put a stop to the destruction of the Israeli citizen. Israeli government stand up and be a MAN or resign your position.
What about General Flynn comments
GENERAL FLYNN: “Americans See the Truth: Our Ruling Class is Corrupt, Inept, and Pathological”
“I do believe that the security system in Israel broke down so badly that it had to have been somebody that caused that and that somebody had to be inside. They had to be inside. There’s no way in the world that I’ll believe any other thing only because I’ve walked the fence line of the Gaza strip…”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/general-flynn-americans-see-truth-our-ruling-class/
I agree with others that this intelligence failure will need to be investigated and those responsible brought to justice. I am sure those who neglected to respond to these reports can be found and held responsible.
Since it must have taken specific motivation to NOT act on these reports, the motivation will come to light when those who allegedly committed treason are discovered.
It may lead to a cleaning of house of all who cooperated, in whichever agency or department is found to have committed these acts.
@Ted Yes, and all those reservists announcing they would desert. And the judicial reform movement, in turn, is the product of Oslo. They don’t see the Arabs as the enemy but as a problem to be managed. Plus, the security services and IDF were thoroughly infiltrated by Oslo supporters long ago and have systematically dragged their feet in defending Jewish communities in Yesha because they wanted to see Jews internally deported again. I’m betting they haven’t learned their lesson from this. I learned it the last time, 23 years ago, when they were offered the whole ball of wax and embarked on a five year terror war, murdering thousands of Jews. That and Palestinian Media Watch. There was no such thing in the 80s. No internet either. Who knew? With all their blather about human rights and self-determination. In English, of course. On TV and in teach-ins on college campuses.
Ted our line just crossed
Crucial evidence and not separated from the problems I have seen here and elsewhere
No understanding at all of what the hard won knowledge of Fascism is
I see all these fxxxxxs identifying Hamas
Highly paid very
But two words never cross their lips
1 Fascism
2 Leon Trotsky
And this leads me to the key. Hamas is a mass movement. Trotsky wrote on these aspects of Fascism in massive and penetrating detail
About you lot you haven’t a bloody clue.
(Piers Morgan should never be given any space except CRITICAL space)
But along with what I wrote above
I say Jews are good.
And they I think are now very open because their cause is good
The problem is me and my weakness
It is some time but I remember reading…After the revolution the nerve centre of the Bolsheviks was an old building. A journalist visiting Trotsky described the few rooms where the family of Trotsky lived and he met the journalist in a room. He noted it
One old table…a few chairs
Nothing else in that room.
Control of all Russia yet that image tells everything about Israel and its internal problems if you really can give a little thought to it
For example if the ordinary soldier had got on a bus or car then I am sure Bibi would have taken her in and he would have acted
It comes down to how bureaucracy creeps in
To my mind this intelligence included sufficient information to warrant some king of response. At a minimum, at least 1000 soldiers should have been sent to the border. This intelligence gave no indication of how massive the attack was going to be. That was beyond the imagination.
We have no idea what the IDF, Mossad and Shin Bet were telling Netanyahu. And remember they had much more intelligence that that from these eyes.
I keep askihng myself, why the IDF didn’t have a major base in the area. This is an other failure.
TED=
Information and warnings like these described by the “eyes” don’t need evaluation. It has already gone past that. It needs speedy direct action.
All the same, I believe that you are correct in your reasoning for the failure.
I said as much myself several times recently..
This is the lesson of Pearl Harbor and The Six Day War that was ignored in 1973 and again exactly 50 years later in the second! Yom Kippur War: If you see enemy activity on the border, mobilize, especially on holidays. Every time. The Enemy never sleeps.
I suspect that this failure to properly evaluate this intelligence is the child of the anti-judicial overhaul campaign .