Col. Macgregor: Ukraine Is Being OBLITERATED

– Most of what you are told by the West about the Chinese mistreatment of the Uyghurs is propaganda.
– China not interested in war.
– The Ukraine War is waiting for the mud to dry up
– US has the best government money can buy.

April 8, 2023 | 4 Comments »

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  1. @Michael
    I do say ‘if’ as if it weren’t the case because I highly doubt it is the case. No doubt the ghost of Ukraine is responsible for flying in and collecting all the photos [that joke is never getting old], but whatever the true number of original tanks Russia has lost, they are still producing tanks on a wartime basis whereas the West has no interest or ability to do so [read this as existential threat vs military adventurism].

    In fact, the Ukrainians have acknowledged that they were in need of a quantity of tanks from the west many fold greater than the numbers which have been promised and still not delivered. The few tanks which are coming are arriving in such drips and drops that it is unlikely to provide the salvation which you seem to consider it to hold.

    Indeed, Ukraine declared that they needed many hundreds of tanks not many dozens, and if Russia has so few tanks as your silly report claims, why would Ukraine have been in such a desperate need for so many tanks, especially as you conclude that they have captured many of the Russian tanks to add to the western promises.

    Furthermore, the Ukrainian general staff have confirmed Zel’s claim that should they lose Bakhmut, it would be a devastating result – and yet they have lost Bakhmut. This is not a statement to support Russia or to condemn the West, it is simply the fact of the situation. Since you believe that Russia has so few tanks, it would seem that Russia’s lack of armor is still not halting Ukraine’s retreat, despite the Ukrainian declared resolve to keep the city no matter what.

    Also I am glad that you have finally accepted the reality of Russian dominance in artillery (but I would suggest that it is more likely a 10:1 ratio), but if they are using nearly all of these missiles to destroy civilian targets, it would leave very little advantage, using your estimates of 4:1, to explain why Russia is still advancing and Ukraine is retreating, even at a slight pace, based on your conclusion that Russian armor is diminishing while Ukraine’s is increasing.

    Indeed, this report seems to be nothing more than one more silly rah rah moments for the West as I have noted. Propaganda is important to maintain the faith among the people, but when the miracles are sequentially never fulfilled, it provides a diminishing interest in future prophesies, of which this latest claim of Russia’s imminent destruction is just one more example. I am glad if it instills something important for you, but for myself, I remain unconvinced by this Western born fantasy you shared.

    As to your three points
    1. The Wagner Group is a privately run organization which supports its own forces, which has only begun to be integrated into action in combination with the main Russian forces since last fall, and are still not given the tanks and hardware which the Russian forces have access.

    2. The advances which have taken place have been slight but strategically important, of which you should be aware given the fanfare which the green shirt collection box acknowledged regarding the importance of Bakmut which is all but lost.

    3. The Ukrainian army has been trained for 8yrs on NATO bases all over Europe and North America to use the devices which gained them little advantage over the Russians, even while they outnumbered the Russians with battle hardened veterans.- albeit the Ukrainian NATO army had only faced the population of Dombas over the previous 8yrs and found itself completely surrounded twice, which doesn’t speak well of either the NATO training or the NATO arms, or both.

    Also Ukraine is being obliterated. This is what war does, at least this is what war does to proxy forces who are not the ones making the choice of war based on the interests of their own people. Of course, back in Rome, I mean Washington, everyone sleeps peaceably, almost unaware as their proxy force bludgeons the Russians with every Ukrainian they can muster into battle. This never ends well for a proxy caught fighting a proxy war, as has been the case for Ukraine over the past decade. Their obliteration was the consequence of them becoming the proxy of the West in this American imperial fantasy of destroying Russia.

  2. Peloni, you said,

    if Russia has nearly run out of all their tanks, it seems remarkable that their unsupported infantry have been able to consistantly advanced against the Ukrainians who are being supported by everything the West can provide

    Three of your points, of which you ought to have known better:

    1. unsupported infantry While the Wagner mercenaries have often complained of various equipment and support problems, sources I read (from both sides) consistently say the Russians have at least a 4:1 advantage in air and artillery — which, unfortunately for them, is mostly wasted on civilian targets.

    2. consistantly advanced The front has moved very little since massive Ukrainian advances last fall; and the Russian “winter offensive” has amounted to mostly high-casualty, incremental advances by Wagner forces.

    3. everything the West can provide The West has provided very little in the area of main battle tanks and fighter aircraft, which Ukraine has requested to be able to mount a major offensive. The equipment they have provided, of course, is of excellent quality — which, unfortunately for Ukraine, has required extended periods of specialized training to operate.

    Also, you said “if” Russia has nearly run out of their tanks, as though this were not the case. The figures I have provided of Russian losses (a majority of their active force) are backed up, tank by tank, by photographic evidence. Obviously, their losses are greater than those which Ukrainian cameras have been able to record. What has also been recorded, is long trains of flatcars pulling early Soviet-era tanks out of mothballs, which will certainly be death traps for the soldiers operating them.

    You have no doubt noticed, of course, that the Ukrainians have captured so many functioning Russian tanks that the former now have more in their inventory than they did a year ago.

    NONE of this supports the headline of the OP, namely, that

    “Ukraine is being OBLITERATED”

    This is propaganda; and Macgregor is a Russian asset.

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  3. @Michael

    Russia may have lost 2/3 of its active tanks.

    The more pathetic you make the Russian position, the more pathetic it portrays the use of US and NATO arms which are failing to prevent the Russians from continuing their incremental advances. Rephrasing this, if Russia has nearly run out of all their tanks, it seems remarkable that their unsupported infantry have been able to consistantly advanced against the Ukrainians who are being supported by everything the West can provide them to affect their regime change via proxy war against Russia. Beyond this latest claim being inconsistent with the facts on the ground, if this were true, why would Zelensky moderate his war aims regarding Crimea? If he is in such an advantageous position, why make any capitulation now, at this time?

    Do recall that all the tales told by the West over the past year have fallen flat. Putin is not insane, still not dead from cancer, not deranged due to steroid use (still laughing at this one), still not crippled by US sanctions, still selling oil and at a greater profit, still pushing the NATO army back, and still in power.