T. Belman. As you know, I am a firm believer in what Col Douglas MacGregor says about the war, namely that Ukraine doesn’t have a chance. This article says otherwise. It was sent to me by Bear Klein who used to be a valued contributor here but left because he couldn’t abide by my pro-Russian stance.
So who is right? Your comments would be appreciated.
SOUTHERN ENGLAND—After a string of Russian defeats in the war, U.K. Defence Secretary Ben Wallace is urging Ukraine to “keep up the pressure, keep up the momentum” and continue their rapid-fire attacks on Vladimir Putin’s forces through the winter months.
“Given the advantage the Ukrainians have in equipment training and quality of their personnel against the demoralized, poorly trained, poorly equipped Russians, it would be in the Ukraine’s interest to maintain momentum through the winter,” Wallace said. “They have 300,000 pieces of arctic warfare kit, from the international community”—a crucial requirement for any winter offensive.
Wallace told The Daily Beast that this was the advice he would give to his Ukrainian counterparts, who he speaks to “almost weekly.” He praised the Ukrainians for shocking the world by showcasing their own courage and skills, as well as the huge deficiencies in the Russian armed forces.
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The intervention comes at a time when senior American officials have tried to nudge Ukraine away from the battlefield and towards the negotiating table.
Two weeks ago, General Mark Milley, Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, warned that, because Ukraine may not reach a full victory on the battlefield, it should use the expected slowdown in military operations over the winter as a “window” for discussions with the Russians.
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But President Volodymyr Zelensky has declared that he will not negotiate with Russia while Putin remains in power, and has said that any settlement must end with Ukraine in control of all its post-independence territories, including the Donbas and Crimea.
In an exclusive interview at a British army base in the south of England, Wallace instead suggested this was the time for Ukraine to press its advantage, pointing to the dire quality of the Russian armed forces.
“A Russian unit was recently deployed with no food and no socks, and not many guns. That is catastrophic for a person going in the field… The Russians have scale, but are not very good. Well, most of the good ones are dead,” he said. “They are a meat grinder—they shove them in the meat grinder—and use massive quantities of artillery. Only a nation that does not care for its own people could send 100,000 of its own people to be either dead, injured, or deserted.”
As we spoke last week, the crack and whistle of rifle bullets rang out behind him, from a practice range where a team of trainers from the British and New Zealand militaries were instructing Ukrainian forces. Around 5,000 Ukrainian troops have already been through a grueling three-to-five-week training program designed to give them a crash course in the basics of modern combat.
The program is run by the U.K., with trainers being sent from countries including Canada, New Zealand, and Norway. They are taught stripped-down infantry tactics with a focus on “survivability and lethality,” as one trainer put it. Many are sent straight to the front lines upon finishing. Overhead, you could hear the whir of the rotor blades from a British military helicopter as it descended to collect Wallace and his New Zealand counterpart.
In his interview with The Daily Beast, Wallace also slammed successive U.K. and European governments for decades of neglect of their armed forces.
When asked what he had learned from his experiences visiting and working with his Ukrainian counterparts, he said: “I can speak for my own and some others in Europe, it looks good at the front—but under the bonnet, ammunition stocks, maintenance, availability, reliability of our equipment, and the readiness of our soldiers to go anywhere has been hollowed out for decades.”
He noted that a variety of global crises, including Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the COVID pandemic, and the rise of China has meant that “the world is more anxious” and aware of “the need for resilience… and the military can do resilience, that is our middle name.”
The U.K. has often taken a more upbeat view of Ukraine’s prospects than some of its other partners, including the United States. One senior Ukrainian military official who works on liaising with foreign militaries said that British commitment went “well above” that of most other countries.
Speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military details, he noted that officials at the U.K’s Ministry of Defence were “extraordinarily committed,” often working regular overtime and weekends at key points of the military campaign.
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“If our armed forces need a particular vehicle or piece of weaponry, the Brits will search through the military catalogs of different countries, and find what we need,” he added, citing the Australian Bushmaster as an example.
The Ukrainian military official also mentioned former U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s early and regular trips to Kyiv to meet with Zelensky as an important factor in boosting Ukrainian morale and demonstrating international support. While Johnson is mostly disgraced in his home country, he remains a folk hero in Ukraine, appearing on murals, T-shirts, coffee mugs, and beer cans.
Wallace would speak to who was responsible for last week’s deadly missile incident in Poland, but noted that the “missiles were flying around that part of the world because Russia fired 80 missiles into civilian infrastructure. It is against the Geneva Convention, but that does not stop Mr. Putin.”
@Reader
You are quite correct. The conversation provides quite an important discussion of the topics.
This is an excellent discussion about Russia and Ukraine, I don’t think people here gave it enough attention:
https://www.israpundit.org/ritter-its-all-over-ukraine-is-finished-or-soon-will-be/
@Jacobite
You have never answered my question that I posted on another thread regarding your eagerness for an English translation of Solzhenitsyn’s antisemitic screed (I am reposting it below), and now you are adding Yagoda and Kaganovich as the greatest enemies of the Ukrainian people – why? I suspect you are just trying to say that it is all the Jews’ fault.
Reader
November 22, 2022 at 11:00 pm
@Jacobite
“Two Hundred Years Together” is a shining example of the crudest antisemitism made to look “objective” by the author’s selection of only those sources that happened to support his views.
The Soviet Jewish dissidents who had supported Solzhenitsyn were stunned when that thing came out.
Why are you so eagerly waiting for it to be published here?
Americans are operating in the historical dark re the Russia-‘Ukraine’ war. Some day, if an authorized English translation of Solzhenitsyn’s “Two Hundred Years Together” is ever published, the scene will become much clearer.
Much less understandable is the Ukrainian People’s ignorance of the greatest enemies in Ukraine’s history — Genrikh Yagoda and Lazar Kaganovitch.
@Peloni.
Well said.
There have been more lies by the western media regarding this war than Pinocchio’s. Many of the lies have been by omission of salient facts such as Minsk, Maidan, Crimean history among others. There has also been a lot of fantasizing. How do these pundits know what Russian strategy is? What do they know about Russian military morale? Ukrainian morale is great and Russian morale is terrible supposedly. Have they done a survey? It’s mostly bullshit. As for retreat, tactical retreat is an integral component of Russian military approach. According to Angelo Codevilla Russians even have a military reward for orderly retreat.
All you need to know is Russians are an accomplished people with a deep culture as their music and literature demonstrates. They have been disgracefully insulted by western leaders and will not forget that. Wars generally end in peace but the worst thing about this one is it can end only in permanent hostility, thank you Biden and the idiot neocons.
With all due respect, this is unfair. I have read Bear’s commentary for many years now, and I know him to be a passionate advocate but a reasonable man. I disagree with him on things that are quite substantive, but these are honest disagreements which are not base upon him acting as a propagandist. He has his own views, and I for one am not curtailed by him or anyone else who disagrees with my own imperfect opinions, such as they are. I think there is no evading the truth that many can not countenance the reality that Russia is not so evil as we have imagined her to be over the years just as the US is not so perfect. Yet, not all men are willing to accept these truths as true, and I believe it is better to argue these points than focus our attentions on hurdling abuses between the individuals within the two camps in this debate.
More specifically, Bear’s rigorous support for his own views has at times challenged me to reflect upon my own views, such that the review has left me with a better expression, if not understanding, of what I believe to be a fair and honest digestion of the topic being discussed. We should be brave enough to venture beyond our echo-chambers and seek out men such as Bear, who is neither ignorant nor uncompromising in his commentary. By doing so, we might find that some things which divide our thoughts may also inform us better of what we, ourselves, believe to be true.
Also, Bear’s leaving our company did not improve the conversation, not in my opinion, in any event, and I said as much at the time.
These are just my own views, of course, but I believe them to be fairly stated.
– Paul Craig Roberts
I would add that the beneficiaries of this war besides the military contractors and bureaucratic whores and petty “presstitutes” like Bear, are the Chinese Communists.
So who is a Bear Klein? Let’s call him Little Bear. He’s one of those self-important barely read stenographers of the propaganda machine who are so pleased with their journalisming pass-time that they forget what the actual job entails. Or did he ever know what it was?
The sickening slobbering over Ukraine is an elite signifier and has to be it’s own reward apparently because no one pays for dime-a-hundred “reporting” like his.
Obviously, there are many agendas operating here but one of largest component motives of the whole Ukraine scam — a WWI level of stupidity turned up to eleven to distract people from the current attempted communist revolution taking place in the United States.
@Reader
I hope the report from Moon Over Alabama is correct. I understand why Russia held back from taking this situation to the status of total war, but it has been clear for some time now that this is all that stands between Russia and her demands, whether they have to take possession of all of Ukraine or simply take them back to the stone age to motivate them to the negotiating table. It is quite regretful, but it has been quite obvious for some time now.
An interesting article on the topic:
Pardon my sarcasm. Putting the OP together with the pro-Russia counter-pieces here, I come away with the impression that the only “news” from Ukraine is that there is no news. For readers who want something “faster moving”, try the following:
and if Kim is believable, I suppose Marvel Comics would be a logical next place to look.
Thanks for the post, Ted — it’s a good balance.
As Russia dropped the ball with calling up reserves in a timely manner, it has instilled a great deal of added confidence and morale into the Ukrainians and their international pundits with the recent Ukrainian gains. The gains which are being taken by Ukraine are, however, not being seized by defeating the Russians. The Russians are in fact retreating, and even in good order, a retreat will be seen as the hallmark of a defeat if not by those who are retreating, at least by those who are advancing, despite the number of casualties they are taking or the reality of the cost in arms with which the advance might come.
The tell as to whose might ultimately prove to be victorious will be come to be seen in future weeks and months, but to be certain, Russian forces are not being cut off, not being surrounded, and not being pounded into surrender, as took place in Marioupol elsewhere in past months with the Ukrainian forces. The fact that we are not seeing this is not for a lack of wanting such things by Ukraine such as taking on more Russian prisoners who could be barbarously executed and shared on the web for all to see, as it seems the Ukrainians are particularly keen on such live action fantasies come true. The lack of such access to capturing large numbers of retreating Russians is obviously in part due to the Russians desire to place a higher value on men and supplies than on holding untenable positions, but it is also a statement that the Ukrainians are not able to actually rout and overrun the Russians, even as the Russians are retreating. In other words, the Ukrainians are advancing as the Russians are withdrawing, but in doing so, Ukraine is not able to overwhelm the Russians during their withdrawals, even with their massed sophisticated NATO toys, and even as the Russians gave the Ukrainians forward notice that they would be withdrawing from Kershon – and this withdrawal required the Russians to conduct that withdrawal across the Dnieper river. Certainly, if Ukraine was to ever show their quality in pressing an advantage, it should have been able to have routed the Russians during this announced withdrawal across the Dnieper, but that is not what took place. If Ukraine is in a position of such dominance over Russia, why is it that they allowed Russia to retreat in good order? The answer is that they did not allow them to retreat in good order, but that they were incapable of disturbing the withdrawal of the Russian forces, even as they made an announced withdrawal, even across the Dnieper, even with all the access to the 300,000 pieces of arctic weaponry. So, no, the Ukrainian rhetoric of success in driving the Russians from this position, which is the most significant from which Russia has retreated from, seems to actually be a greater statement on Russian incompetence than of Ukrainian abilities to wield their donated toys for frozen Ukrots.
The Ukrainians have a great deal of spirit, and there is no denying the heart with which they bring to the battle while fighting for their right to murder their Russian citizens and as many Russian non-citizens as they can. This is why it was a great mistake for the Russians to have delayed the troop call up over the summer. The path to peace will be by complete domination and capture of the Ukrainian state or by way of some negotiated settlement. Both of these require that Russia actually not be caught flat-footed without the numbers to hold the precious territory they have won, particularly those territories they recently annexed.
Of course, Russia would have been happy to have left Ukraine as a unified state had either the Minsk agreements been pursued or even if the agreements discussed in Istanbul in April had not be shot to dust by the handiwork of Boris Johnson – who forced the Ukrainians to actually step away from the negotiating table where they would have had the Russians moving back to their pre-war positions. So, settlement or conquest is to be the standard by which this war might end, but who would negotiate while they are advancing, even if Ukraine had the choice to make this choice for themselsves(see below)?
Complicating this question is the added revelation that the war is nothing but a ponzi scheme whereby Ukraine, the money-laundering capital of the world is being used to setup an international money-laundering scheme by criminal elements established in the US govt, and likely other govts as well. In fact the massive funding for Ukraine war is nothing more than a US Uniparty fundraising event, where the US politicos tax the US public, ship billions of dollars to both the MIC and the corrupt Ukraine govt, both of which then pay the big guy and his colleagues on both sides of the isle to keep the funds coming – which means keeping the war going. Who in this corrupt scheme to bilk the US taxpayers would be motivated to walk away from this money-laundering scam which is likely still going on, even as one limb of the scam has imploded with FTX. More relevant than who would want to walk away from this scam is the question of who would be allowed to walk away from this money-laundering scam, even if they chose to do so. Certainly not Ukraine, hence the call for the war to continue until Putin is removed or Crimea is retaken, neither of which is in the cards for Ukraine.
It should be noted that Ukraine has never been in a position of its own choosing, not since the Bucharest Memorandum was eviscerated by a US coup back in 2014. This was the cause for why the war broke out in 2014, why the war with Russia was not averted earlier this year, and why the Ukrainians refuse to negotiate, even to maintain the largely Russian-free rumplet realm which they still now control.
So, color me foolish, but I find this counter-narrative to be less than convincing, for a number of reasons.