T. Belman. I choose conservative values over progressive values but include in the roster of conservative values that “a person should be judged, not by the colour of their skin, but by the content of his character”. Orban’s statement is akin to talking about the Nazi value of racial purity.
I am greatly disturbed by his objection to “mixing” of European and non-European races,” I hope he didn’t mean what it looks like it means. In his speech to CPAC he said that it won’t go too far as their Christian values will restrain it. Surely he jests.
Orban explained himself “on Thursday, July 28, defended his comments against creating “peoples of mixed-race”, saying they represented a “cultural” standpoint. “It happens sometimes that I speak in a way that can be misunderstood… the position that I represent is a cultural… standpoint,”
Four years ago in Israel he said that Hungary will always take action to ensure that international organisations treat Israel in a fair, balanced and unbiased manner. He said that in the future Hungary will also continue to closely cooperate with Israel in international forums.”
Hungary’s far-right prime minister says countries where races mingle are ‘no longer nations’
By Shaun Walker in Budapest and Flora Garamvolgyi, GUARDIAN July 24/22
Hungary’s far-right prime minister, Viktor Orbán, has lashed out against the “mixing” of European and non-European races, in a speech that immediately drew outrage from opposition parties and European politicians.
“We [Hungarians] are not a mixed race … and we do not want to become a mixed race,” said Orbán on Saturday. He added that countries where European and non-Europeans mingle were “no longer nations”.
Orbán has been making similar claims for years, but these comments were couched in stark far-right terms.
Katalin Cseh, an MEP from the opposition Momentum party, said she was appalled by the prime minister’s speech. “His statements recall a time I think we would all like to forget. They really show the true colours of the regime,” she said.
On Twitter, Cseh addressed mixed-race people in Hungary: “Your skin colour may be different, you may come from Europe or beyond, but you are one of us, and we are proud of you. Diversity strengthens the nation, it doesn’t weaken it.”
The Romanian MEP Alin Mitu?a also responded angrily to Orbán’s comments. “Speaking about race or ethnic ‘purity’, especially in such a mixed region such as central and eastern Europe, is purely delusional and dangerous. And so is Mr Orban,” he wrote on Twitter.
Orbán made the remarks during a showpiece annual speech in B?ile Tu?nad, Romania, where he has previously floated major policy ideas or ideological directions. It was there, in 2014, that he first said he wanted to build an “illiberal democracy” in Hungary.
This year, Orbán gave an apocalyptic speech predicting the decline of the west and prophesying “a decade of peril, uncertainty, and war”. He also sharply criticised western military support for Ukraine, positioning himself as Moscow’s foremost ally inside the European Union.
“The more modern weapons Nato gives the Ukrainians, the more the Russians will push the frontline forward … What we are doing is prolonging the war,” said Orbán during a speech on Saturday.
Hungary is a member of Nato, but the far-right Orbán has long had warm relations with Putin, and spent five hours in Moscow talking to the Russian leader in February, shortly before the Russian invasion. The speech came two days after his foreign minister made a surprise trip to Moscow for talks, and puts him far outside the European consensus on the war.
Orbán said the job of the west should not be to hope for a Ukrainian victory, but to mediate a peace deal. “We shouldn’t be on Russia’s side, or Ukraine’s side, but between the two,” he said, adding that the policy of imposing sanctions on Russia had not worked.
Oleg Nikolenko, spokesperson for Ukraine’s foreign ministry, described Orbán’s claims as “Russian propaganda”.
Orbán won a fourth consecutive term in office in an election earlier this year, with his government accused of stifling media freedom and backsliding on democratic norms since his Fidesz party won power in 2010. Since the 2015 refugee crisis, Orbán’s government has used far-right anti-migration rhetoric as its main talking point.
On Saturday, he made frequent nods to the “great replacement” conspiracy theory, which claims there is a plot to dilute the white populations of the US and European countries through immigration. He said it was “an ideological trick of the internationalist left to say the European population is already mixed race”.
He named demographics, migration and gender as the main battlefields of the future, on the same day that thousands of people rallied in Budapest for the city’s annual Pride march.
The European Commission is currently suing Hungary over a recent anti-LGBTQ+ law, a copy of Russia’s “gay propaganda” law. It bans gay people from featuring in school educational materials or TV shows aimed at minors.
Orbán’s position on Ukraine has lost him support among some of his previous ideological allies, notably Poland’s ruling Law and Justice party, which has criticised his equivocal stance on the war.
“He’s further away from the European mainstream than ever before,” said Péter Krekó, of the Political Capital thinktank in Budapest. “I think he really believes that migration pressures will mean the united west is soon over and every government will become far right … It’s also clear he wants Russia to win this war.”
Orbán will be hoping for Italian elections in September to return a rightwing coalition, and is also rooting for the return of Donald Trump in 2024. Next month, he is due to travel to Dallas, Texas, where he will address CPAC, a large gathering of American conservatives. Earlier this year, CPAC hosted a special session of the conference in Budapest.
At home, Orbán’s battle with European institutions seems likely to intensify further. The EU has frozen several billion euros of recovery funds earmarked for Hungary over corruption and rule-of-law concerns. Orbán’s harsh speech may be a sign that the Hungarian government has given up on receiving the funds.
“He knows exactly what reaction there would be to this speech, and I think he’s preparing for a lack of compromise,” said Krekó. “He wants to fight the symbolic fight instead of talking about the austerity measures they will need to introduce.”
I can only think of what “cultural diversity” has done to peaceful Sweden.
@2596
Thanks for you comment.
@PBF001
Speaking for Israel, we don’t want it either.
@2596 Legend has it that the Magyars originally came from the Xing Xang region of Hungary where the Huighurs now live. I mentioned this to a Korean conductor who studied in Hungary. He said he knew that. They think of Hungarians as Eurasians. Isn’t it funny that koeszenem means thank you in Hungarian and koeszenim means professor in Korean?
A similar quieston I answered on Quora:
The question is misleading: “ethnically pure” is not true.
Everybody – including Orban – knows that the Hungarians ethnically a very mixed people: our DNA is not very much different from that of the neighbouring nations.
Mixed but 99% of us are culturally based on the traditional European Culture, i.e, on the Judeo-Christian values.
Most of us do not wish a culturally divided country with such large migrant paralell societies coming from another civilisations, who are not only not able to integrate into our value-system, but – many from them – try to dominate our culture.
It is not really about races. Mr. Orban has cleared what he ment: races in cultural sense.
Generally we have no problem with a lot of different “races” with diffferent valu-systems, too.
E.g. in Budapest we have quite a lot of Chinese people coming from a different but tolerant civilisation, who are also form a small paralell society, but well integrated in Hungary in the same time – we respect them.
A good friend of mine has a Chinese girl-friend.
Hungary doesn’t want masses of Muslims from Arab countries, Iraq, Syrian, Afghans, Pakis., etc. migrating into their country like western Europe welcomed and have been overwhelmed with. It raised their security costs, violent incidents, radical Islam, women attacked loss of security, social costs.Tthey don’t want to be like Germany or Israel with a hostile to their culture major minority Islamic population that doesn’t integrate & stirs hatred of Jews.