T. Belman. Turley’s monologue should be heard by everyone. My position from day one has been similar to Turley’s position and to what Mearsheimer has been saying. Russia’s demands were reasonable and should be acceded to.
Kissinger also said, “Russia was an ‘essential part of Europe’ for over four centuries, noting that European leaders must ‘not lose sight of the longer term relationship’ or otherwise risk putting Russia in a permanent alliance with China.” My position exactly. I argued that western Europe and Russia should “amalgamate”.
Turley also pointed out how “cleft nations” are inherently unstable. “A cleft nation is one in which the major ethnic groups are so clearly separate from one another in terms of values that it is difficult to form a national culture. These groups tend to be insulated from one another, particularly if they do not share the same or similar religions and value systems.” He cited Yugoslavia as a prime example and noted that Ukraine was one also.
He should have pointed out, as I have done numerous times in the past, that Israel was a prime example. My antidote was “ethnic homogenization.” One country, one civilization or culture. The NWO ignores such differences and advocates for a world bereft of such differences. It wasn’t always so. At end on WWII, borders were changed and populations were moved in order to achieve ethnic homogenization. When India sought independence 1947, it was divided into two countries, India and Pakistan. Hindus and Sikhs moved to India, and Muslims to Pakistan numbering 15 million. Palestine, as it existed in 1945 before Jordan’s independence should have been divided into two states, Israel and Jordan with the Jordan River separating them AND Muslims should be moved from Israel to Jordan. This, essentially is the Jordan Option.
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@Raphael
Aye, there’s the rub. Kahane said exactly the same thing and provided a detailed plan for incentivized emigration in “They Must Go.” A must read. I’m secular, incidentally.
@Ted I agree with you.
The warmongers won’t like it! So be IT!
But didn’t Stalin purposely relocate Russians to other neighboring countries with the sole purpose to annex them? While massacring million others (Holodomor)
@Raphael “Although the agreement required no relocation, about 15 million people moved or were forced to move, and between half a million to 2 million died in the ensuing violence.Mar 8, 2019
https://news.stanford.edu › partition-…
Partition of 1947 continues to haunt India, Pakistan – Stanford News”
@ Ted Belman
I agree wholeheartedly with the principle of “homogenization”, however, I think that forcibly moving people has ethical problems, and may result in bad feelings that will cause problems in the future. As I recall, in the case of India and Pakistan, the population transfers were entirely voluntary, largely along religious lines. There were still Muslims, however, who chose not to migrate. In those cases, they tacitly agreed to accept and become part of the majority Hindu culture.
Like you, I believe that the “two state solution” should be Jordan becoming the palestinian state, and all of the land between the Jordan river and the Mediterranean sea becoming the Jewish state of Israel. You can incentivise palestinians to voluntarily migrate any way you want, but those who choose to remain should be allowed to…IF they will swear allegiance to the Jewish state.