T. Belman. Turley explains what the New World will look like. The war in Ukraine is a catalyst to its birth.
Israel fits in to this New World entirely as it is quintessentially, a civilizational state, perhaps the oldest.
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So, what I get out of this is that the rising “Civilization State” will be separate and parallel from the West’s New World Order (NWO). Will it succeed? Who knows? But didn’t Capitalist theory teach us that competition is a good thing? If the NWO doesn’t like it, they’ve only got themselves to blame. As for the rise of Populism, the NWO only has themselves to blame for that too. Ha! They think that they are so clever, and so powerful!
There is another world view that I heard enunciated recently, which is worth considering. What we are seeing now is the clash of the Globalist fascists, (the West), and the Nationalist fascists, (Russia, China, Iran, etc.). So, (lucky us), we get to choose between what kind of fascism we live under.
No matter which world view you ascribe to, life for the little guy, who just wants to live and raise a family in peace, will be difficult. For Americans, a government that strives to “insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common Defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity”, is just a faded memory.
@Ted Belman
The US elitocracy (rinos & dinos) is globalist and does not represent the American people.
DIANA JOHNSTONE: For Washington, War Never Ends
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/16/diana-johnstone-for-washington-war-never-ends/
Kosovo was in effect a massive turning point. Then followed by Libya. No longer could it be argued that NATO was a fluffy peace arrangement, slightly dotty BBC military types. Rather – name the occasion and NATO will find the pretext. For a war.
For example it could be you, the Zionist Entity, are preventing the Palestinians having their state in the “west bank”. Or anything. They are good at narratives.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/16/diana-johnstone-for-washington-war-never-ends/
I would advise to read carefully as Israel may be at a decisive and historical turning point
@Sebastien Zorn
It’s possible.
I was afraid of this from the beginning.
The situation in Israel is really weird.
They say there are anywhere from 200,000 to 350,000 Jews in Ukraine, and yet Israel is making sure to supply humanitarian services to the non-Jewish Ukrainian refugees AND it is being forced to accept any number of non-Jewish refugees from Ukraine!
Israel also says that it is ready to accept 100,000 olim from Ukraine which is nowhere near the lowest estimate.
Some people try get the problem of the “Palestinian refugees” added to this.
Israel also says that it will not protect the Jewish “oligarchs with their dirty money”.
How can they assume that every Jewish “oligarch” is a criminal?
I think Israel’s behavior is pathetic!
If Russia is building an alternative civilization, and Jewish businessmen said to be affiliated with Putin are really oligarchs and thus surely would be insulated, why are they so desperate to get out despite sanctions? I went to one of the 4 main Russian news services, one run by the church, and there was a front page article defending the Black Hundreds and blaming Jews for the violence back then. Are Jews fleeing both countries, and only partly because of the war? I can’t tell what’s going on through the fog of propaganda. There is pressure on Israel to refuse them even when they have dual citizenship. Meanwhile, Biden is allowing Russia to represent the U S with iran and then profit from rhe oul trade when the deal goes through. Is all if this just to provide a precedent for sanctions against Israel as so many styes have outlawed B D S by executive ordwr?
@ketzel2
It doesn’t matter who appears to be at the helm in the US or any country – no ruler is a free agent.
Saying that a president can make a real difference in a country’s policy and calling the same country democratic is a huge contradiction.
I don’t want to live in Russia or China but they want to be separate from the West because of the way the West has discredited itself and its ideas since the early 1990s.
Frankly, these countries reached a stage where they want and are able to be independent from the Western dictate.
In the case of Russia, it is an existential issue – it cannot afford to be not only dependent on the West but even to interact with it in a meaningful way, since the recent events show that the West only wishes its destruction.
The same may be true for Israel but I don’t see how it can get out of the Western trap at this point.
Don’t confuse America with the NWO. With the passing of the supremacy of the NWO, America will remain and will return to its exceptionalism. I like and admire Trump and the MAGA movement.
The US and the EU and the UN as organs of the NWO have been ramming the Palestinians down Israel’s throat for ever. They are doing their best to force us to accept the TSS and a divided Jerusalem. They are hell bent on embracing Iran, our worst enemy and giving her the bomb. They prevent us from defeating Hamas.
Lucky for us, the Sunnis are now on our side.
The issue is not whether Russia or China are democracies but whether they would be worse for us than America is. Besides considering all the election fraud in the 2020 election, who would argue that America is a democracy.
China would love to replace the US as our benefactor because being so is very lucrative and very good for their military strength.
Israel doesn’t turn its back to any country because it is not democratic. What matters is their policies vis a vis us.
The US has been pushing democracy and human rights in order to justify their interference with the internal affairs of other countries. This often leads to war. This is what the NWO is about, dictating to others, Israel included.
@Reader
Jews should get with Russia now? They help with Iran’s nuclear program. So does USA under Biden/Obama, but not Trump. In other words, all we need is a better government, Trump, DeSantis, etc. Russia is Russia. And China! You want a social credit system? Everyone who comments here would lose access to services.
@Reader
I wrote we need to clean house here, but until recently, we did have freedom and human rights. We can have them back. Look at how quickly the truckers’ protests changed vax policies. OTOH, the places Turley discusses have never been free. People with skills leave for the West.
@ketzel2
What “freedom and human rights”?
They are long gone from the “free world”.
I don’t know but I wouldn’t want Russia to be my enemy.
As far as “Let my people go”, it is really time for us to be leaving the “free world” before it’s too late.
This Turley is a fascist. Hitler
’s program also focused on a self-sufficient, homogeneous civilization.
Physics, chemistry, advanced mathematics, modern technology, modern medicine, computers, etc. are also Western inventions. Will the supposed “civilization states” reject these Western inventions? I doubt it. They are only rejecting, democracy, human rights, and honest government.
Have a look at WION-Gravitas video” How Rich Is Vladimir Putin?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UKZKt4YUf4. On his presidential salary, how did he get to own a mansion worth $1 billion, that takes over 1 million dollars a year just to maintain? How does he own exremely expensive watches valued from between 100,000 and 500,000 each? (Swiss and German “specialty” watches).
Sounds like cultural relativism plus new Berlin Wall. All those fabulous civilizations contribute immigrants to the West, but who emigrates to Russia, India, China? We in the West need to clean house, but the s holes Dr. Turley admires so much will never be the answer for people who like freedom and human rights. And Israel? Whatever happened to Let my people go? Who wants to be best friends with Russia?