The conspiracy to shrink Israel by Ted Belman.
Tolerism: The bizarre transition in the West, by Howard Rotberg
By Ted Belman Oct 3, 2021
I asked Victor Rosenthal, Malcolm Dash, Mordechai ben Menachem, Howard Bochner , Ron Jager and Victor Sharpe the following:
I am just beginning to write an article in which I identify the interests of the US and EU which are being served in supporting the Palestinians.
It used to be that it was all about currying favour with the Arabs in particular and the Muslims in general. That case is harder to make today with the advent of the Abraham Accords and US self sufficiency in energy.
Or put another way, what is the globalist interest in perpetuating the conflict rather than resolving it.
I am looking for something that goes beyond, human rights, supporting the underdog, justice and all the other reasons claimed. On the other hand if you believe that these are the decisive issues, make your case. I think not.
My article will also contain a list of all the reasons why not to support them. Please add to the list.
- There is no such people as the “Palestinians”
- There is no truth to their narrative.
- They have no national rights.
- They want the death of Israel.
- Their movement was advanced by terror and murder and is maintained by it.
- Judea and Samaria are not “Occupied Palestinian Land”
- Israel has the only right to the land
IN RESPONSE
By Ted Belman. The conspiracy to shrink Israel
By Howard Rotberg. Tolerism: The bizarre transition in the West
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By Victor Rosenthal, Abu Yehuda blog
The answer to your question is, “it’s ideology, baby.”
With regard to Europe, only of few percent of Iranian oil and gas production goes to Europe, and I doubt that there is heavy pressure from the Sunni oil producing countries. There is of course the increasing size and political strength of the European Muslim population. Then there is the lingering effect of Soviet anti-Israel propaganda on the Left, academic Israel-hatred, and of course the guilt felt by the former proprietors of the Belgian Congo and other colonial projects, which make them susceptible to the Durban program in which Israel is a “settler-colonial” entity. There is the EU prejudice against any kind of nationalism, including Zionism.
All in all, it seems to me that the phenomenon of Palestinism (which is really anti-Israelism) is primarily ideological and not based on realpolitik.
In the US, the situation is similar. There is the effect of the huge subsidies to universities and think thanks from the oil-producing nations since the 1970s, which now even extends down to k-12 education. There are large amounts of money being pumped into anti-Israel propaganda and support of anti-Israel organizations from Soros-related charities, as well as sources like the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and others.
As a result, academia is a cesspool of Israel-hatred, exploited by ideologically committed Arab, Muslim, and extreme leftist students. There is the highly effective (but factually absurd) propaganda that analogizes the situation of black Americans to that of Palestinian Arabs, and recently has gone as far as blaming Israel for allegedly racist behavior by American police officers.
There is the exploitation by certain politicians of latent (and not so latent) antisemitism, which is presented as concern for Palestinians but is actually anti-Jewish. I could go on, and on, and on, but — as in the case of Europe, it is more ideology than realpolitik.
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Here are my first impressions:
You have a hard job here.
A. All the reasons to not support them are historic and correct, and totally irrelevant to why the left supports them
B. I differentiate between “the left” and the EU. The reasons are totally different.
C. The EU’s reasons are simple. They are still Christians and Christians can never support a State for the Jewish people because that fundamentally conceives Christianity as defined by Augustinian Philosophy. Basically, they are the same antisemites they always have been.
D. In the US, the reasoning is different. Basically there is “the left”. The left desires a massive cancellation of Westphalia. For that to occur, there must not be any “conservatism” or “nationalism”. Israel is the consummate “nation state” and as such, fundamentally anathema to them and always shall be. There is no way this can be fixed or mitigated.
E. The reason for the EU is not that they support the Palestinians, but that they despise Jews and the idea of a nation state scares them to their core.
F> The reason for the left is that Israel scares them to their core. If Israel exists, and even worse when it is prosperous and strong, this negates their existence and the idea of any nation state scares them to their core and a Jewish Nation State, even worse.
G. The irony is that both attitudes prove that we are right.
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The question: Why is there a “globalist” interest in perpetuating the Palestinian conflict rather than resolving it?
What begins with the Jews never ends with the Jews. The first commercial flight hijacked was an ElAL plane and today the whole world undergoes security checks throughout the airports of the world.
The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has never been a conflict as a result of the occupation or settlements or even Jerusalem despite what we have been lead to believe. The real core issue has been and will always be the “right” of all Palestinians to settle en masse in Israel so as to undue and prevent Jewish sovereignty and Jewish self-determination. The core issue has always been about returning the entirety of the land to the Palestinians, that is undoing history, and taking back what was once theirs according to their historical memory. The purpose of the Palestinian movement and armed struggle using terror against the Jews and the State of Israel for over the past 150 years has been and will be to serve the goal of undoing Israel. The Palestinians imagine a future when the past is reversed and Israel is gone.
The resiliency of global Palestinian support for the Palestinians over the years and across the board defies logic and historical precedent. The global community has consistently moved on in response to almost all similar conflicts over the past century. Why have the Palestinians been an exception?
The Palestinian demand of the “Right of Return” is an affirmation of intergenerational memory and historical restitution. The Black American writer Ta-Nehisi Coates has observed about the US, that historical crimes that go unaddressed generally reappear. The globalist perspective uses the Palestinian conflict to empower movements throughout the world to face and redress historical wrongs so as to enable demands of redistribution of stolen wealth, property and so forth for indigenous populations such as descendants of slaves, Black Americans, Native American Indians, and so forth. The New York Times’s 1619 curriculum is a result of this process of redressing historical wrongs, and the Palestinians’ large support that they receive from Western progressives is simply two sides of the same coin.
The globalist support of perpetuating the Palestinian conflict rather than resolving it is a major part of the globalist narrative to demand of Western society (White Americans, White Europeans, Owners of Capital) to redistribute wealth, reparations, and/or compensation. Israel, and/or the Jews are “White Supremacists” according to the globalist progressive narrative. The past can be and should be reversed according to the progressive globalist agenda. The Palestinian conflict serves as a constant and convenient reminder of this agenda. What begins with the Jews never ends with the Jews.
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By Howard Bockner
My own view is that Biden is following the general globalist plan for one world government. He doesn’t want a strong nationalist US. Although many of the things he has done are for “the environment” like cancelling the Keystone Pipeline and putting pause on all oil and gas leases on federal lands, the real objective is to keep the US dependent on foreign oil, to ship jobs to oil-producing and third world countries and to give the UN a broader mandate on health, immigration, the environment, guns, equity, world security and even Israel.
Regarding Israel:
Since (and including) the Yom Kippur War Israel has not been allowed to win a war with any of its enemies decisively. By that I mean so decisively that its enemies are demoralized to the point of loss of initiative, motivation and spirit. Israel is given and allowed to develop weapons for defence only. Thus the 3 times Bibi went into Gaza but never finished the job.
How would you react if you were the Palestinians, Hezbollah, Syria or Iran? You would rapidly come to the conclusion that Israel is beholden to Western countries who have successfully tied their hands. So you would ramp up everything that would cause Israel to eventually implode on its own: non-stop hate propaganda, BDS, lawfare at the International Criminal Court, attempts to run the Israeli military blockade of Gaza (to prevent Hamas getting arms and weapons of mass destruction), anti-Israel movements on all campuses in the West, demands for “aid” in the form of constant international financial assistance for “the starving people of Gaza and the West Bank”, sympathetic Western NGOs confronting the IDF in Judea and Samaria, fighting demolitions and deportations in the leftist Israeli Supreme Court, and building illegal settlements for the Arabs in Judea and Samaria, and funding Bedouin and Arab settlements on Israeli state land in the Negev and Galilee. In addition you would never come to the negotiating table unless some demands were met eg. freeing of Palestinian terrorists in Israeli jails as Bibi allowed in one of his useless attempts at making peace. And you would insist no peace deal without full right of return for millions of “refugees”, the result being the swamping of Jews who would then have no state.
As you know this is only part of the strategy to finish Israel off by its own hands with the pressure coming from Israel’s Western “allies”. I don’t have to tell you that many politicians in the West wished there had never been an “Israel”. Some are saying it out loud. The rise of anti-Jew hatred has coincided with the weakening of Israel as above and the takeover of the Democrat Party which is now controlled by anti-Jews. Trump got the Abraham Accords but Biden is doing as much as he can to undermine them so I have no confidence they will be “the building blocks” to peace breaking out between Israel and its neighbours. Here is an example: recently Biden blocked $130 million in military assistance to Egypt due to Egypt’s “poor human rights record”. HA- no such thing when Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood President of Egypt oppressed the Copts ruthlessly and said he intended to break the peace treaty with Israel.
Overall:
We are headed to a biosecurity states run by China and the UN (will send article) in which there is no room for Israel. Too many are against us. All the more reason for Bennett to demonstrate who is in charge by bombing Iran’s nuke sites as he just threatened at the UN. Bibi’s “status quo” regarding the Palis and Gaza and “on board with the globalists” re: vaccines and oppressive measures (I believe this was a deliberate attempt by Bibi to show Israel can be counted on by the globalists in order to pre-empt their desire to take Israel off the map) are failed measures which continue to weaken Israel and enhance the chances of Israel’s demise at the hands of the globalists.
It’s in the globalists and western defence contractors’ interest to keep the conflict going on all fronts: war, propaganda and the civil war between Jewish supporters of Israel and assimilated leftist Jews.
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During eight baleful years, President Barack Hussein Obama made Israel’s life utterly miserable as he pursued relentlessly his warped vision of a ‘Two State Solution’ to the Israel-Palestinian conflict. But that vision, being imagined yet again, would remain national suicide for Israel.
Still pushed by too many in the international corridors of power, it is in reality an appalling euphemism not unlike the German Nazi’s ‘Final Solution’ which ushered in the Holocaust. And now, lo and behold, the Biden/Harris administration — which many see as Obama’s third term — is currently pushing yet again for the disinterment of that rotting corpse known as the ‘Two-State Solution.’
It will spell the destruction of the reconstituted Jewish state and the extermination of its people by a Muslim world that will never accept a non-Muslim nation and will wage eternal war against it — the Dar al-Harb — until it is utterly destroyed. The existing and proposed “Two-State-Solution” ushers in an eventual and guaranteed destruction of the Jewish state.
Of course, if Israel declared its justified rejection of the ‘Two-State-Solution’, such a statement of the truth would be considered inflammatory and assured to provoke another Palestinian Arab outburst of violence and barbarism (dignified by the Arabic term intifada).
But isn’t that what is happening throughout Judea and Samaria (the so-called West Bank) with almost daily atrocities committed by Arab thugs against Jewish civilians?
The over 3,500-year-old Hebrew and Biblical names, Yehuda and Shomron, (Judea and Samaria), refer to the heartland of both the ancient and modern Jewish homeland. But a malevolent world prefers to call the territory the West Bank; what was the mere 19-year-old Jordanian name applied to the land after it and much of Jerusalem was illegally invaded and occupied by Jordan from 1948 until 1967.
The Jordanian Arab Legion, after invading and occupying the territory, immediately began desecrating Jewish graves on the Mount of Olives, using the headstones to build latrines for their troops, destroying 57 ancient synagogues and holy sites, and forcibly expelling Jewish residents from their villages and ancient homes in Jerusalem’s Old City.
There has never in all recorded history existed an independent, sovereign state called Palestine. The so-called Palestinians are an Arab invention. No such people by that name have existed in centuries past. An Arab leader and PLO executive committee member, Zuheir Mohsen, admitted this fact himself on March 31, 1977, in the Dutch newspaper, Trouw:
“The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese … Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people.”
Today there are Jewish properties, illegally occupied by Arabs, scattered throughout areas of Jerusalem. They have remained in legal limbo because of international pressures against successive Israeli governments. This has led to endless delays in the return of the land and properties to their rightful Jewish owners.
All who know history know that Jordan sits on four-fifths of what was until 1922 the entire Palestine Mandate, large tracts of which was promised to the Jewish people as a National Home. The Arabs who call themselves Palestinians already possess, de facto, a state on the east bank of the River Jordan, which in size dwarfs tiny Israel. There already has thus been a Two-State-Solution in existence for 100 years since 1922.
The reality is that the Arabs who call themselves Palestinians do not and never have wanted a state side by side with Israel: they want a state in place of Israel. That is why breathtakingly generous — nay, suicidal Israeli offers — are always rejected.
The Arabs continuously smother parts of Biblical and ancestral Jewish Judea, and Samaria (the so-called West Bank) with illegal buildings paid for by certain oil-rich Gulf states, by the EU, the UN and anti-Israel NGOs, and the world remains deathly quiet. Only when an Israeli family dares add a room to their tiny home or some new apartments are built within the ancestral heartland or in Israel’s capital city, Jerusalem, does the same world scream bloody murder.
Indulging in self-imposed building freezes to placate enemies and so-called friends alike, while the Arab enemy constructs illegal settlements with impunity, is insanity for the embattled Jewish state. For Israel to lose the precious Jewish homeland and return to the horrors of exile is beyond imagining.
Without retaining the hill country that runs like a spine north and south through Judea and Samaria, Israel’s pitifully narrow nine-mile-wide coastal plain will be at the mercy of a Palestinian Arab thugocracy, just as southern Israeli towns and villages endure relentless aggression from the Hamas-occupied Gaza Strip. That is why the Two-State Solution, as envisaged yet again and peddled by the EU and the morally bankrupt UN would usher in a new ‘Final Solution.’
The world has fallen for a fraudulent Palestinian narrative. It allows an uninformed world to embrace the falsehoods of an Arab people who call themselves Palestinians and creates an atmosphere where the embattled Jewish state is unjustly and grotesquely demonized. This increasingly allows such foul anti-Israel and anti-Semitic movements as the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) to continue its dirty work — the latest being the despicable Ben and Jerry’s boycott of Jewish villages throughout Judea and Samaria.
That the conflict is not territorial but based on Islam’s unchangeable refusal to accept a Jewish state or any non-Muslim state whatever its borders in territory once conquered and occupied in the name of Allah is lost on so many who inhabit the international corridors of power. Most diplomats, with few exceptions, still harbor the illusion that territorial compromise will satisfy the Arab and Muslim world. So again and again the discredited corpse known as the ‘Two-State-Solution’ is exhumed and presented as the default plan.
It was Albert Einstein who said: “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” The same can also include those without ears to hear or eyes to see.
Victor Sharpe is a prolific freelance writer and contributing editor. He is also a published author of seven books including The Blue Hour, a selection of thirteen short stories, and the acclaimed four volume, Politicide: The attempted murder of the Jewish state.
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The USA designed its diplomatic activities in the Middle East to achieve hegemony over the region: the proverbial gateway to India and the far East. A supplementary and no less important foreign policy aim was to safeguard the unrestricted flow of energy to Europe and Japan. Last but not least, to prevent the Soviet Union from obtaining a foothold in the region. The Europeans endorsed the US plan of action and followed its lead. America identified Israel as the most stable country in the region, and Israel could defend US regional interests and foil Soviet meddling. They helped Israel build up a military force capable of dominating the Middle East.
With the collapse of the Berlin Wall and end of the Cold War, the West’s strategic requirements changed. For the US, the Middle East was no longer a primary issue, its sponsorship of Israel became less robust. In the interim, the Europeans romanticized the ‘noble’ Arab and launched a crusade to delegitimize the Jewish state. And what better measures to undermine the state of Israel than to advance the ‘Palestinian’ narrative? This then allowed the Europeans to mitigate their own responsibility over the holocaust; enabling them to revert to their pathological antisemitic antecedents, but now under the disguise of anti- Zionism.
The capitals of the West yielded to Progressive Leftwing elites who unashamedly reveal their overzealous antisemitism. In addition, and, more often than not, most American Jews identify with the Leftist Progressive movement and provide legitimation for the Lefts’ anti-Zionist/Antisemitic messaging. Clearly, the West’s policy towards Israel is no longer one of national self-interest but is now inspired by hostile anti-Israel and anti-Jewish animus.
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@Mac
Actually, Israel won when she crossed the Suez Canal and that was days before Nixon supplied what was asked for.
@Talex
Talex… you said, “Then Nixon took credit for rearming Israel after Israel got “the bloody nose” Kissinger wanted. He then did everything he could to help the PLO with Nixon’s blessing.”
If your selective memory fails you, may I remind you that when Golda Meir called President Nixon on the phone asking for military equipment or Israel would go under, Nixon gave Golda “all” that she asked for… and they won.
@Sebastien
Gantz ‘Happy’ He Sabotaged Israeli Sovereignty in Judea & Samaria
What he meant by this confession was revealed by Gantz’ own Director General of the Defense Ministry a few months later:
How Benny Gantz killed Israeli-Palestinian peace
So it was Kushner who altered the deal which was struck with Bibi to gain his support to come to Washington and endorse Trump’s plan, but Kushner was properly motivated by Gantz and Eshkel to do exactly this. One thing led to another, and four years later, the Trump plan stands as but a lost opportunity, spoiled by members of Israel’s own govt, which had the most to gain from it being immediately pursued.
It does recall to mind the warning which Gen. Hacohen raised regarding the many in the general staff having a interests which more closely aligns with the interests of the Americans, I would suggest the American Deep State, than with that of Israel.
@Peloni I didn’t know that was Ganz’s doing. I read that it was Kushner. Where did Ganz admit that?
None of these “experts” mentioned the fact that the most virulent anti-Israel and anti-Jewish group in the world is Jewish, and I am obviously not just talking about George Soros and Yuval Harari, If one is unfamiliar with Harari, his ideology can be gleaned from the following:
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@Felix
But here lies the problem with your criticism of Trump. He never bullied Israel. The plan he introduced was an reiteration of the TSS, but it would have been the final such plan if it had been acted upon. Mazen would never, and could never, have accepted the plan, which meant that in just four years, Oslo would have been dead, J&S would have already been largely under Israeli sovereignty, and the circumstances would have been set for the JO to have been a logical corollary to the limited successes gained from accepting the Trump plan, and those successes would have been quite significant and quite irreversible.
This is not what took place because of the treasonous actions of Benny Gantz and his successful plot to get Trump to withdraw his support for the pledge related to Israel extending sovereignty over ~30% of J&S.
So there was no bullying done by Trump, and there was no risk associated with moving forward with his plan while the benefits were quite revolutionary. There was a betrayal involved in the deployment of Trump’s plan, but that betray was well confessed to by Gantz himself.
Meanwhile, the many acts of solidarity between Trump and Israel are nearly too numerous to conclusively enumerate, though we have done so in the past and we could republish them here again, but I think the point I am making has clearly been made, and I think it is a fair point to make as well.
The U.S. has been playing both sides against the midddle since 1948.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/history-and-overview-of-u-s-foreign-aid-to-israel
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/u-s-contributions-to-unrwa
The U.S. has been playing both sides against the midddle since 1948.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/history-and-overview-of-u-s-foreign-aid-to-israel
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/u-s-contributions-to-unrwa
Fact is, the U.S. has tried to play both sides against the middle from Truman onwards. The U.S. began funding UNRWA in 1950. It gave aid to Israel for resettling Jews expelled from Arab countries from 1951-1959.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/history-and-overview-of-u-s-foreign-aid-to-israel
Oh for goodness sake stop playing dumb. America acting as bully to Israel is president after president gutting Israel and Trump continued to get another “Palestinian” state initiative going.
That’s the essential. Nothing else matters.
Felix Trum0 betrayed Isreal? How?
@Felix
I disagree. Trump did many good things for the Jews and Israel.
What article were you referring to?
Why does Israel?