PM Naftali Bennett claims ‘no connection’ between gatherings at performances or basketball games and infections among the unvaccinated.
By Ido Ben Porat, INN , Sep 25 , 2021 11:31 PM
Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett on Saturday evening spoke with senior Health Ministry officials, advising them of what their next steps should be in managing the coronavirus pandemic.
Responding to the Health Ministry’s demand that restrictions be reimposed to prevent hospitals from becoming more overwhelmed, Bennett said: “There is no connection between restricting a performance or a basketball game and infections among the unvaccinated. It will only cause economic damage.”
“The government’s policy is an open Israel, while determinedly, intelligently, fighting the pandemic. Not quarantines, lockdowns, and more and more restrictions – which is easiest – but solutions.”
On 09-25-21 Bennett said:
On 10-03-21 Bennett said:
@Adam
Very important observations here, Adam. Very good news too from Singapore and Denmark. It is a pity that only two of three relevant topics are addressed by Singapore and Denmark, and the topic not addressed is likely the topic that will have the greatest impact upon limiting death to those who become infected by the virus.
There are, in fact, really 3 topics of concern related to the virus and the world’s govt’s reaction to it. They are lockdowns, vaccines and treatments. Regarding a policy of defeating the disease and preventing the ill from dying, it really does not matter if you lockdown a nation or don’t lockdown the nation or if you vaccinate everyone or you don’t vaccinate anyone. If you are going to withhold treatments from sick people, the vast majority of people will get ill – mostly mild but many severe – and recover and some will get ill, suffer miserably and then die. Just as if people were not treated for a stepping on a rusty nail without interventions some will live and some will die – no need for a medical license to assess such simple facts – and one fourth of people who contract tetanus, ignoring other infection potentials, will die without treatment, thus increasing mortality by 150%. This is the very purpose gained from and the precise benefit achieved by modern medicine – it is called medical intervention and it is criminal to withhold assistance from those suffering from known treatments. So lockdowns and forced vaccines are each a separate issue to the question, “Are you really going to just let people suffer and die while doing nothing?” The hardships of the answer to this question are in addition to the forced penury associated with lockdowns and the forced medical battery of forcing an experimental medical procedure upon an unwilling subject. It is important that all three issues be addressed and quickly, as people are needlessly exposed to great harms daily by such unwise practices that have become the norm based on poor judgements alone. So, movement on the leaky vaccine mandates and the forced lockdowns are inspiring, but the greatest benefit will be gained by those who are treated when they become ill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ItkYhFiGBI&t=386s. This is a very important video to watch. From the Hill, of all places. It reports that both Norway and Singapore have lifted all coronavirus restrictions. And that, even though both countries are seeing more, not less, cases than in the past. The explanation is that they do not believe it is possible to eliminate Covid, whether with vaccines or any other method. So people have to learn to live with it. Also, the economic, social, and eventually health costs of vaccine mandates and lockdowns will eventually result in more deaths than the disease. The vaccines will still be available for those who want them.. The governments will continue to advise those over 60 and those with compromised immune systems to be vaccinated. But no one will be required to be vaccinated or subject to punishments or restrictions on their freedom if they decide not to be vaccinated. And both Singapore and Norway intend to end “demonization” of the unvaccinated, and blaming them for the CV19-2 problem. Instead, these governments will urge the public to take a tolerant and positive attitude towards their fellow citizens, whether vaccinated or unvaccinated.
The decisions of these two countries, although separated by thousands of miles from each other by thousands of miles, have provided a useful template for how all countries, including the United States and Israel should change their policies in order to contain the illness while respecting the freedom of their citizens enabling normal social, economic and personal life to resume, and living with the reality that now that it has circulated widely, it cannot be eradicated completely. We must learn to live with it, the way we live with the flu.
Even the panelists reporting on these developments at the Hill, despite their leftist bias, seem to support the Norway-Singapore policy changes and hope that the U.S. will eventually adopt them as well. Even hardcore leftists are beginning to sense the disatrous consequences of the Biden administrations harshly repressive and autocratic decrees concerning coronavirus.
@Adam
I think your critique was well made, I was always able to gain high marks in Lit/comp but did wary at having to maintain it’s burdensome rules, though they did serve a purpose. So I do appreciate your comments and there was no need for an apology.
I am glad you have gained something from my comments and I appreciate your followup inquiries when I have explained a topic less clearly than you can understand. I had a good ally who once told me that he found teaching a burdensome but useful tool by which he learned more about communication than his students could learn from the subject he was teaching. I did not appreciate his comments then but I do now. I later came to appreciate that knowing something, even well, is very different from being able to capably communicate it publicly or even to a few. I used to tutor young highschool graduates who gained adequate marks for graduating but graduated without any basic math skills needed to survive in the world. I learned a great deal from my efforts to teach them basic math skills. In this same vein, I do appreciate your comments, probably more than you think.
Regarding your run in with ring worm, I have a bit of advice that you may or not care to pursue. There is a compound called lime sulfur dip(https://www.walmart.com/ip/Classic-s-Lime-Sulfur-Dip-16-oz-Pet-Care-Veterinary-Treatment-Against-Ringworm-Mange-Lice-Flea-Itchy-Dry-Skin-Xtra-Strength-Formula-Safe-Dog-Cat-Pupp/662852932) that will clear up the ring worm on the dog pretty efficiently. It is very useful for treating dogs and cats that suffer from ring worm – I used to have a cat that was predisposed to ring worm and, well, I could not let that stand. My vet told me of this treatment of Lime Sulfur and it worked better than any other remedies which at the time were all associated with toxic issues in cats, but it stinks terribly. I mean really rotten eggs smelly bad. So you can inquire from your vet if you are brave enough to deal with the ghastly odor.
@peloni. Peloni, I deeply apologize for the unfair tone of my critique of one of your recent posts about the possible harmful effects of the coronavirus vaccines. In view of everything you have done to keeps us informed about the latest research into the coronavirus, treatment options and the risks associated with the vaccines, both in this post and in several hundred previous ones, it was indeed insensitive and ungrateful of me to adopt such a snippy harsh tone in my response to your treat.
This morning, I was awaiting my annual “wellness visit” with my doctor in less than an hour after my post. I was very anxious about the results, since I have not been feeling well for several weeks. For one thing, I have a rash caused by ringworm, which I apparently picked up from petting the doggies in my apartment. Not only is the rash very itchy, but I am saddened that I cannot any longer pet my neighbors dogs, several of whom are lovely, friendly creatures who love to be petted and seem to think of me as a friend and neighbor. Dogs, I think, are more intelligent than we give them credit for.
I have also been suffering from a raging thirst, which made me afraid that my diabetes has intensified. I don’t want to have to inject myself with insulin if I can avoid it. As it turned out, my blood test reading were actually slightly improved from my last blood test in the summer, and I even lost a few pounds. But i am still a long way from being out of the woods.
Concerning the substance of my critique of your writing style, which is all I intended to criticize, I feel I must stand by them. I taught freshman lit and comp to college freshman over many years, and flatter myself that I have some things about writing style, although I know absolutely nothing about medicine other than what you and other physicians and scientists have taught me over the internet.
I always taught my students to only one main idea in every composition (the “thesis”), and that everything in the composition should promote and reinforce that main idea. Each subsidiary idea in the composition should reinforce thuces a word or concept that is not familiar to everyone, e main idea, and each one should be logically connected to the previous idea, and should flow from it. Usually each new idea should get a new paragraph to mark it. If the writer introduces a word or concept that may not be familiar to all readers, he/she should explain its meaning immediately. And all ambiguity of expression should be eliminated from the composition.
It is only my school-marmish criticisms of your writing style that I wished to critique in my post, not the accuracy of the information you conveyed to us. About that I have no doubts whatsoever that what you wrote is true, and the information is very useful to me and all of your readers. Please forgive the strict (and not very popular as you can imagine, because of my criticisms of student’s compositions) English teacher in me. Best wishes and many thanks, Adam.
Meanwhile, it is horrifying the tens of thousands of people who have died in close time relation to being vaccinated[25% in 24hrs, 50% in 48hrs, 80% in 7days(see VAERS data or long video of Rose above)] while these autopsies are not funded. It is even more concerning that these privately funded autopsies are revealing such an uptick in bizarre findings while England notes the rather concerning increase in all-cause mortality associated with disease presentations similar to the VAERS data at least in the broad categories listed. These findings should be pursued as they may be found to be contributory or not from the vaccines, but regardless of this, we should know why people are dying with increased occurrence while we are not looking. And why aren’t we looking? The autopsies as demonstrated from Germany and Austria, showed alarming support of a diagnosis of death caused by vaccines by a world reknowned pathologist(https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/08/05/media-blackout-renowned-german-pathologists-vaccine-autopsy-data-is-shocking-and-being-censored/) and these results show highly irregular findings beyond the cause of death itself.
To prove causality requires a timely coincidence or association(https://graphpaperdiaries.com/2016/07/03/proving-causality-who-was-bradford-hill-and-what-were-his-criteria/) but, by itself, it is not enough to demonstrate causality…But it is, by itself, enough for us to find out if there does exist an element of causation by looking at these deaths more constructively.
Hopes this is clarifies my comments somewhat.
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@Adam
You might have mentioned that Dr. Cole lives in Idaho, not Britain
Making this statement increases the value of my point, but it really is not significant specifically where he lives. That being said it is a fair point that this could have been noted to enhance my comment. Or perhaps you think I was suggesting his concerns were a basis for the English data? From your own comment here I am uncertain as to your meaning. I should also note that anyone seeing Cole’s video could not mistake him as being from England in fairness, in anycase.
So let me state this more clearly. The consequences noted in VAERS include neurological, cardiovascular and inflammatory consequences of the injections(See Dr. Rose https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btJsgxoWhXo also https://originalrebel.net/2021/09/23/dr-jessica-rose-compares-vaers-covid-19-vaccine-data-to-previous-vaccines/). These are short term findings, overwhelmingly with 80% being reported within 1wk post vax. The long term consequences are open to be found incidentally over time with additional long term reports or on the autopsies that should but are not being performed on either the virus victims or the vaccines[(https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32422983/)-Dr. Urso has recently complained that there has been only a single post-vaccine autopsy completed last April(I think the date is correct)(https://youtu.be/T98j2CJ18rY), he is not the only source for this, but the only one I can reference at the moment].
Dr. Cole has found serious and remarkable findings on autopsy results in his lab. He has noted such findings are not isolated to the findings of his lab alone as he relates a consult from Ireland who “listed the number of cancers he has seen in six week period of time that he has never seen in a 40yr career”(High Wire Interview).
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@Adam
Making this statement increases the value of my point, but it really is not significant specifically where he lives. That being said it is a fair point that this could have been noted to enhance my comment. Or perhaps you think I was suggesting his concerns were a basis for the English data? From your own comment here I am uncertain as to your meaning. I should also note that anyone seeing Cole’s video could not mistake him as being from England in fairness, in anycase.
So let me state this more clearly. The consequences noted in VAERS include neurological, cardiovascular and inflammatory consequences of the injections(See Dr. Rose https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btJsgxoWhXo also https://originalrebel.net/2021/09/23/dr-jessica-rose-compares-vaers-covid-19-vaccine-data-to-previous-vaccines/). These are short term findings, overwhelmingly with 80% being reported within 1wk post vax. The long term consequences are open to be found incidentally over time with additional long term reports or on the autopsies that should but are not being performed on either the virus victims or the vaccines[(https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32422983/)-Dr. Urso has recently complained that there has been only a single post-vaccine autopsy completed last April(I think the date is correct)(https://youtu.be/T98j2CJ18rY), he is not the only source for this, but the only one I can reference at the moment].
Dr. Cole has found serious and remarkable findings on autopsy results in his lab. He has noted such findings are not isolated to the findings of his lab alone as he relates a consult from Ireland who “listed the number of cancers he has seen in six week period of time that he has never seen in a 40yr career”(High Wire Interview).
Meanwhile, it is horrifying the tens of thousands of people who have died in close time relation to being vaccinated[25% in 24hrs, 50% in 48hrs, 80% in 7days(see VAERS data or long video of Rose above)] while these autopsies are not funded. It is even more concerning that these privately funded autopsies are revealing such an uptick in bizarre findings while England notes the rather concerning increase in all-cause mortality associated with disease presentations similar to the VAERS data at least in the broad categories listed. These findings should be pursued as they may be found to be contributory or not from the vaccines, but regardless of this, we should know why people are dying with increased occurrence while we are not looking. And why aren’t we looking? The autopsies as demonstrated from Germany and Austria, showed alarming support of a diagnosis of death caused by vaccines by a world reknowned pathologist(https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/08/05/media-blackout-renowned-german-pathologists-vaccine-autopsy-data-is-shocking-and-being-censored/) and these results show highly irregular findings beyond the cause of death itself.
To prove causality requires a timely coincidence or association(https://graphpaperdiaries.com/2016/07/03/proving-causality-who-was-bradford-hill-and-what-were-his-criteria/) but, by itself, it is not enough to demonstrate causality…But it is, by itself, enough for us to find out if there does exist an element of causation by looking at these deaths more constructively.
Hopes this is clarifies my comments somewhat.
@Adam
I don’t believe this is fair. I cited Dr. Cole who spoke before the White Coat Summit earlier this year and which Ted posted the video earlier this month, I believe, which is why I referenced his name specifically. For further clarity you can also watch his recent video on Highwire where he goes into more detail, which was shared here by one of our bloggers, forgive me I am not sure which one.
Forgive me if you found my statements here unclear, but if you or others have a question about something as you did here, feel free to ask, as always.
Dr. Cole runs the largest independent lab in the state of Idaho as he states in one of his other videos but I don’t have this detail for you at the moment. He cites his concerns in the video Ted shared as well as the issue about the autopsies. I have since found that his lab works for 12 surrounding states as well but you will have to find this citation as it is on one of a number of his video. Here is another, more deliberative explanation of his concerns:
https://www.facebook.com/wadingthruthecrap/videos/dr-ryan-cole-idaho-pathologist-and-owner-and-operator-of-a-diagnostics-lab-repor/2312643992199298/
It’s on facebook so watch it before it’s gone, but you can find the longer video of his discussion on rumble, bitchute and elsewhere.
You should also watch his recent highwire interview with Cole, but here is another short clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE4uA7VhMEM
This one is on youtube so watch it before it’s gone
Here is the citation for the paper he cites:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.03.21256520v1.full-text
In truth, my concerns are easily supported by these findings, but in complete disregard to these alarming findings, there is no rationale on earth in which we could support using a worldwide distribution with an investigative experimental vaccine without pursuing autopsies to find any unexpected realities associated with the vaccines. NONE. Only the simplest critical thinking or compassionate concern for the public is needed to support this view.
I have more to offer in response to you, but it will have to wait til LATER….
@peloni. Dr. Cole found 20X what? Where can I find the talk or article where he gives this figure? Observed at his own clinic? Or statewide? Or nationwide?
You might have mentioned that Dr. Cole lives in Idaho, not Britain.
Peloni, you are still having problems with clarity of expression. Also, with citing data without giving the source.
Most of the experts who have doubts about the vaccine, and/or who recommend medications for treating COVID that world governments have banned or discouraged the use of, have a lot of trouble communicating their opinions and the facts supporting them to the general public. On the other hand, the government bureaucrats who advocate unhealthy responses to the virus, like Dr. Fauci, are very slick and persuasive. This is a major obstacle to changing the world governments’ response to COVID and purging government medical regulatory agencies of corruption and incompetence.
Very alarming finding on all-cause mortality cases in England. This returns us back to the discussion of the findings that Dr. Cole and other pathologists are finding. This Yahoo reporter has chosen to attribute this increase in deaths to a lack of hospital visits in 2020. The problem is that these increases are associated with the time span post vaccine rollout. Also there is a marked increase in the all cause death rate that is directly associated with the vaccine rollout specifically. In addition to this, the findings that Cole and others are observing as well as the contributing findings of a study that incidentally noted the negative effect that the vaccines are having on Tcell toll receptors(which scans the body for pre-cancer cells and kills them) is a clear and obvious concern. Also Cole claims to have found increases in 6-8 month of 20X over previous years which seems higher than likely due to lack of hospital visits in 2020. In any case, this increase in all cause death is the only marker available to objectively quantify the impact of the vaccines given the manipulated aspect of the data collection being delayed for 2wks post-vax. They must start doing autopsies. Does anyone support not finding out why we are having more deaths following the vaccine rollouts?
https://news.yahoo.com/analysis-thousands-more-usual-dying-170117640.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw&tsrc=twtr
@Bear
That makes sense given the complication of the pressure on the heart and the self-limiting efffect of the virus after day ~8.
@Peloni if my memory serves correctly the doctor who discussed this Regeneron treatment said until 5 days the treatment was very effective. After 5 days the effective is minimally and the protocol was not to prescribe it.
@peloni
Well, it looks like after this debacle the ones to survive will be the Hindus and the Arabs, and whoever else will manage to abstain from the vaccine and get the real treatment.
From Dr. Kory on Twitter
A very interesting comparison he draws here, I believe. Also, he noted in a follow-up tweet that the 0% Covid was achieved on 9/5/21 when the vaccine rate was 5%.
@Adam
Dr. Cahill has been stating since last May that the PCR test was not specific and tested positive for cross reactivity to other members of the flu family. Also some strains of rotaviruses and RSV have both been found to cross react with a positive PCR as well. The cross reaction with RSV is why a bunch of children were claimed to have been falsely diagnosed with Covid when, in fact, they had RSV – and while they were presumed to have had Covid, anyone treating them per CDC guidance would have withheld treatment, just sickening. Mind you these are not false positives in the form of a testing error as with the woman on the View last week, the test actually tests positive for these strains. This is why the PCR was recalled, even though it is still being used(just can’t write better comedy than this). Cahill had called for a positive PCR to be followed up with genetic sequencing of the actual virus to both confirm the virus and to test for the actual strain, ie is it really delta or some other strain. By doing this, she claimed she could prove the fraud that was being conducted on the public as Covid was a catchall for every type of disease that disapeared for a year including flu, cancer, heart disease, etc. Such sequencing tests are relatively cheap and commonly performed when the treatment will vary by strain of an infectious bug, such as with Helicobacter Pylori, when the specific strain is very important to treatment. This was a very reasonable approach as there was no downside to doing so, but has never been done anywhere.
Your call for sitting out these activities is the correct move to make. The one thing I would note is that if an employer makes you get the jab, refuse on grounds of strong religious, or ethical beliefs, but make him fire you. There are pre-written forms on Dr. Fleming’s site(flemingmethod.com) and on ToreSaysPlus on Telegram and at the Frontline Doctors site(https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/) among others to help with such matters, but make them fire you. You can then sue them and you will win. The law is very well established on this point, or so I have been assured. This will make them stop firing people all the quicker – no employer can afford to face dozens or hundreds or thousands of lawsuits simultaneously. Just FYI.
@Bear
Thanks for the info.
The antibodies only work in the first several days while the virus is still present and it doesn’t really improve the situation, just prevents the virus from infecting additional tissues. So the more severe cases will be further along, probably closer to 14days or later, when the inflammatory stage of the disease is in full swing. When the antibodies are added at that time, the blood will be very thick with high levels of natural antibodies and inflammatory actors already and the added antibodies can help setup clots due to ununsual flow rates from the thickened blood.
Again thanks for the input.
@Reader
I believe the pricing listed in the article at $1600 is incredibly cheap by about 50%, so that is probable a typo, I suspect. As to the hesitency to trust the unapproved monoclonal antibodies, believe it, I know many who hold such concerns. How can anyone blame their concerns, in all honesty. They are still experimental at this point, but they are very helpful to a point, but only if administered early while the virus is still flowing in the blood in the first ~8 days in unvaccinated people, longer in vaccinated people, but they will only administer it as long as you are not entered into the hospital.
The article I just posted and quoted from says that Regeneron is only effective if administered early.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/regenron-life-saving-covid-drug-has-arrived-in-israel-who-will-get-it-first-1.10233117
I reposted that comment of mine (it was deleted once) – am I the only one who can see it?
@adamdalgliesh
As I recall, someone reported fairly recently that vaccinating against the flu makes it easier to catch COVID!
It is time, I think, to quit reading this stuff because it is contradictory and makes no sense whatsoever.
The only weapon that works against this insanity is to take the PTB at their word, i.e.,:
– if you don’t vaccinate, you won’t go to restaurants, so you quit going to restaurants;
– if you don’t vaccinate, you won’t enter cinemas, malls, gyms, etc – so you quit going to cinemas, malls, gyms, etc.;
– if you don’t vaccinate and you are fired because of it, you won’t be paid unemployment benefits for 90 days (a bill now in the works) – so you apply for public aid, or charity, or whatever;
– if you don’t vaccinate, you won’t be able to get on an airplane – so you stay at home and don’t fly;
etc.
If millions do that, it will be noticed.
@Peloni in Israel my understanding is that Regeneron is for early treatment if I remember correctly from a doctor who treats her patients with it said it while someone has mild or moderate symptoms.
This doctor said it is not effective for severe cases.
Sorry, I have been having “technical” difficulties that caused me to accidentally post the same INN article twice. I will be careful so it doen’t happen again.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/flu-season-expected-to-slam-israel-early-and-hard-health-officials-say-679273. This is the URL of the article in the Jerusalem Post that I referenced earlier. It describes how the Israeli health ministry on the one hand claims that there have been no flu cases at all in Israel since February 2020 when the CV2 “pandemic” struck, but now expects a very severe 2021-22 flu season, and is urging everyone to get vaccinated for the flu as well as CV19-2.
They must really believe that the Israeli public will swallow absolutely anything, no matter how absurd. And they are right to believe that.
See also the Jerusalem Post article, Study: Flu shot helps against COVID
New study finds patients who received flu vaccine 40% less likely to be hospitalized after contracting COVID.
A new international study has found that in addition to being able to prevent complications from the flu, the flu vaccine also helps to prevent serious illness and hospitalization in patients who have contracted the coronavirus, Israel Hayom reported.
This finding is of national importance, as in recent weeks senior doctors, and even the cabinet of national coronavirus experts, have repeatedly warned that the severe shortage of intensive care beds for coronavirus patients is exacerbating the increasing mortality rates of the fourth wave of the epidemic.
On Wednesday, after Sukkot, the four HMOs plan to continue efforts to vaccinate against influenza, in parallel with giving out the coronavirus vaccines. The HMOs have ordered about 2.5 million vaccine doses, and so far only about 90,000 of the ordered vaccines have been given. According to the Health Ministry guidelines, the vaccine can be obtained from the age of six months and up, with an emphasis on populations at risk: people aged 50 and over, patients with chronic diseases, children up to the age of 12 and health workers.
The study was conducted by four researchers from the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine, and examined the information in about 75,000 digital medical files of patients from around the world, mainly from the US and also from the UK, Italy, Germany, Singapore and Israel. The study examined information on patients who had not been vaccinated against influenza at all, and those who had been vaccinated against influenza from six months to two weeks before being diagnosed with the coronavirus. The study examined the period before the start of the worldwide distribution of the coronavirus vaccines. Patients in the study were sampled according to categories of age, gender and medical conditions such as diabetes, heart disease and obesity. The researchers examined the development of 15 serious coronavirus symptoms within 30, 60, and 120 days from the time patients were diagnosed.
According to the publication of the results of the study, a direct statistical relationship was found between the risk of developing severe coronavirus symptoms and non-vaccination against influenza. The study also found that those who were not vaccinated against the flu were 40% more likely to become hospitalized and require intensive care, and twice as likely because to develop stroke, venous thrombosis and pulmonary embolism as a result of the coronavirus. The researchers concluded that there is a potential protective effect of influenza vaccines for those who become infected with the coronavirus, which could also benefit populations who do not have access to the coronavirus vaccines. In Israel, the people who cannot be vaccinated against the coronavirus are children below age of 12 and people who cannot be vaccinated at all due to various health problems.
Dr. Alex Guri, the Infectious Disease Adviser for the Pediatrics Division at Kaplan Hospital in Rehovot, said that “for the purpose of the study, the researchers gained access to a database of nearly 75,000 patients, from whom we built two sequences, namely research groups of about 38,000 people who contracted COVID. From that we constructed two groups. In one group, the patients were vaccinated against the flu within the six-month period before contracting COVID, and in the second follow-up, they were not vaccinated against the flu.”
Dr. Guri noted that “the study showed that COVID patients who received the flu vaccine in the six months before their illness had fewer complications of sepsis, emergency room visits, deep vein thrombosis events and strokes. Coronavirus patients who were vaccinated against influenza were also less hospitalized in intensive care units. On the other hand, it should be noted that the study did not find important research findings, since in the last two years there have been no severe cases of influenza in Israel, no such cases have reached hospitals, so people claim ‘why get vaccinated against influenza, since it does not exist’. However, the Health Ministry’s disease treatment team has decided to recommend getting vaccinated against the flu again this year, because our concern is that following the two years in which the population was less vaccinated against the virus, there could be a situation of severe flu, with more violent and fatal outbreaks. If it turns out that the vaccine also protects against coronavirus damage – then that’s another reason in favor of getting vaccinated against the flu.” Study: Flu shot helps against COVID
New study finds patients who received flu vaccine 40% less likely to be hospitalized after contracting COVID.
A new international study has found that in addition to being able to prevent complications from the flu, the flu vaccine also helps to prevent serious illness and hospitalization in patients who have contracted the coronavirus, Israel Hayom reported.
This finding is of national importance, as in recent weeks senior doctors, and even the cabinet of national coronavirus experts, have repeatedly warned that the severe shortage of intensive care beds for coronavirus patients is exacerbating the increasing mortality rates of the fourth wave of the epidemic.
On Wednesday, after Sukkot, the four HMOs plan to continue efforts to vaccinate against influenza, in parallel with giving out the coronavirus vaccines. The HMOs have ordered about 2.5 million vaccine doses, and so far only about 90,000 of the ordered vaccines have been given. According to the Health Ministry guidelines, the vaccine can be obtained from the age of six months and up, with an emphasis on populations at risk: people aged 50 and over, patients with chronic diseases, children up to the age of 12 and health workers.
The study was conducted by four researchers from the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine, and examined the information in about 75,000 digital medical files of patients from around the world, mainly from the US and also from the UK, Italy, Germany, Singapore and Israel. The study examined information on patients who had not been vaccinated against influenza at all, and those who had been vaccinated against influenza from six months to two weeks before being diagnosed with the coronavirus. The study examined the period before the start of the worldwide distribution of the coronavirus vaccines. Patients in the study were sampled according to categories of age, gender and medical conditions such as diabetes, heart disease and obesity. The researchers examined the development of 15 serious coronavirus symptoms within 30, 60, and 120 days from the time patients were diagnosed.
According to the publication of the results of the study, a direct statistical relationship was found between the risk of developing severe coronavirus symptoms and non-vaccination against influenza. The study also found that those who were not vaccinated against the flu were 40% more likely to become hospitalized and require intensive care, and twice as likely because to develop stroke, venous thrombosis and pulmonary embolism as a result of the coronavirus. The researchers concluded that there is a potential protective effect of influenza vaccines for those who become infected with the coronavirus, which could also benefit populations who do not have access to the coronavirus vaccines. In Israel, the people who cannot be vaccinated against the coronavirus are children below age of 12 and people who cannot be vaccinated at all due to various health problems.
Dr. Alex Guri, the Infectious Disease Adviser for the Pediatrics Division at Kaplan Hospital in Rehovot, said that “for the purpose of the study, the researchers gained access to a database of nearly 75,000 patients, from whom we built two sequences, namely research groups of about 38,000 people who contracted COVID. From that we constructed two groups. In one group, the patients were vaccinated against the flu within the six-month period before contracting COVID, and in the second follow-up, they were not vaccinated against the flu.”
Dr. Guri noted that “the study showed that COVID patients who received the flu vaccine in the six months before their illness had fewer complications of sepsis, emergency room visits, deep vein thrombosis events and strokes. Coronavirus patients who were vaccinated against influenza were also less hospitalized in intensive care units. On the other hand, it should be noted that the study did not find important research findings, since in the last two years there have been no severe cases of influenza in Israel, no such cases have reached hospitals, so people claim ‘why get vaccinated against influenza, since it does not exist’. However, the Health Ministry’s disease treatment team has decided to recommend getting vaccinated against the flu again this year, because our concern is that following the two years in which the population was less vaccinated against the virus, there could be a situation of severe flu, with more violent and fatal outbreaks. If it turns out that the vaccine also protects against coronavirus damage – then that’s another reason in favor of getting vaccinated against the flu.”
Study: Flu shot helps against COVID.
New study finds patients who received flu vaccine 40% less likely to be hospitalized after contracting COVID.
A new international study has found that in addition to being able to prevent complications from the flu, the flu vaccine also helps to prevent serious illness and hospitalization in patients who have contracted the coronavirus, Israel Hayom reported.
This finding is of national importance, as in recent weeks senior doctors, and even the cabinet of national coronavirus experts, have repeatedly warned that the severe shortage of intensive care beds for coronavirus patients is exacerbating the increasing mortality rates of the fourth wave of the epidemic.
On Wednesday, after Sukkot, the four HMOs plan to continue efforts to vaccinate against influenza, in parallel with giving out the coronavirus vaccines. The HMOs have ordered about 2.5 million vaccine doses, and so far only about 90,000 of the ordered vaccines have been given. According to the Health Ministry guidelines, the vaccine can be obtained from the age of six months and up, with an emphasis on populations at risk: people aged 50 and over, patients with chronic diseases, children up to the age of 12 and health workers.
The study was conducted by four researchers from the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine, and examined the information in about 75,000 digital medical files of patients from around the world, mainly from the US and also from the UK, Italy, Germany, Singapore and Israel. The study examined information on patients who had not been vaccinated against influenza at all, and those who had been vaccinated against influenza from six months to two weeks before being diagnosed with the coronavirus. The study examined the period before the start of the worldwide distribution of the coronavirus vaccines. Patients in the study were sampled according to categories of age, gender and medical conditions such as diabetes, heart disease and obesity. The researchers examined the development of 15 serious coronavirus symptoms within 30, 60, and 120 days from the time patients were diagnosed.
According to the publication of the results of the study, a direct statistical relationship was found between the risk of developing severe coronavirus symptoms and non-vaccination against influenza. The study also found that those who were not vaccinated against the flu were 40% more likely to become hospitalized and require intensive care, and twice as likely because to develop stroke, venous thrombosis and pulmonary embolism as a result of the coronavirus. The researchers concluded that there is a potential protective effect of influenza vaccines for those who become infected with the coronavirus, which could also benefit populations who do not have access to the coronavirus vaccines. In Israel, the people who cannot be vaccinated against the coronavirus are children below age of 12 and people who cannot be vaccinated at all due to various health problems.
Dr. Alex Guri, the Infectious Disease Adviser for the Pediatrics Division at Kaplan Hospital in Rehovot, said that “for the purpose of the study, the researchers gained access to a database of nearly 75,000 patients, from whom we built two sequences, namely research groups of about 38,000 people who contracted COVID. From that we constructed two groups. In one group, the patients were vaccinated against the flu within the six-month period before contracting COVID, and in the second follow-up, they were not vaccinated against the flu.”
Dr. Guri noted that “the study showed that COVID patients who received the flu vaccine in the six months before their illness had fewer complications of sepsis, emergency room visits, deep vein thrombosis events and strokes. Coronavirus patients who were vaccinated against influenza were also less hospitalized in intensive care units. On the other hand, it should be noted that the study did not find important research findings, since in the last two years there have been no severe cases of influenza in Israel, no such cases have reached hospitals, so people claim ‘why get vaccinated against influenza, since it does not exist’. However, the Health Ministry’s disease treatment team has decided to recommend getting vaccinated against the flu again this year, because our concern is that following the two years in which the population was less vaccinated against the virus, there could be a situation of severe flu, with more violent and fatal outbreaks. If it turns out that the vaccine also protects against coronavirus damage – then that’s another reason in favor of getting vaccinated against the flu.” about the Israeli Health ministry predicitng an extremely severe 2021-2022 flu season, while still claiming there have been no cases at all since Februsatuy 2020
Something weird is going on. After saying that there have been no cases at all of the flu in Israel since the first coronavirus case was diagnosed, now the Health ministry is predicting a severe flu outbreak this fall. They must really think the public is dumb. and they are right.
As for the flu vaccine providing some protection against coronavirus–that is probably because a great many flu cases were misdiagnosed as cv-2 cases. That would also explain why the flu supposedly “disappeared” in Israel and declined by “98%” in the u.S., according to the CDC. In other words, the “COVID19” pandemic was actually mainly a flu pandemic.
@peloni – it was the 2nd time it disappeared – reposting:
Reader
September 27, 2021 at 12:48 am
Yes, Regeneron is restricted in Israel, just like it was in the US – maybe not by the same criteria – when President Trump was treated with it.
I am convinced that whoever said that unvaccinated patients refuse it is LYING (for the explanation see below in the article).
They want to punish the “anti-vaxxers” for refusing the vaccine and probably greatly exaggerate the side effects of the drug or tell them that at this stage of their illness it won’t help anyways, thus making the patients “refuse” it.
It doesn’t compute
$1,600 x 2,500 = $4,000,000, not $9.5 million.
Yes, Regeneron is restricted in Israel, just like it was in the US – maybe not by the same criteria – when President Trump was treated with it.
I am convinced that whoever said that unvaccinated patients refuse it is LYING (for the explanation see below in the article).
They want to punish the “anti-vaxxers” for refusing the vaccine and probably greatly exaggerate the side effects of the drug or tell them that at this stage of their illness it won’t help anyways, thus making the patients “refuse” it.
“A Federal Ban on Making Lethal Viruses Is Lifted”
https://www.sfgate.com/nation/article/Federal-ban-on-making-lethal-viruses-lifted-12442051.php
This is MADNESS!!!
@Reader
Sorry but your comment was here on the left column, but it disappeared when I clicked on it…
On another note, there has been additional documents release that describes the notable Gain of Function advocate, Peter Daszak, asking for a grant of $14.2million to pursue research that included engineering the furin cleavage onto bat coronaviruses. This was in March 2018 and the request cited the use for the Wuhan lab where Daszak’s research team included Shi Zhengli(“the Bat Lady”), of course, in the prospective project. DARPA(US DOD) turned the request down due to safety concerns about the surrounding villages where the research would be done. The obvious conclusion is that the research was conducted via other funding by Dazsak’s team in China, and which could easily explain how miraculously such a virus was found to infect the world some 18months later.
Here is the document:
https://drasticresearch.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/main-document-preempt-volume-1-no-ess-hr00118s0017-ecohealth-alliance.pdf
So there has been a bit of news in the US on the 3rd jab. Many will recall that the White House issued a statement that they would be employing the 3rd jab in the US starting the week of 9/20. Following this there was an independent advisory panel on vaccines who met to consider the possible consequences of the 3rd jab policy. The advisory group to the FDA chose to support using the 3rd jab with the elderly, because they were facing certain elevated risks without the vaccines, but they judged that the safety data was alarming, especially with myocarditis, and that they should not pursue a wider rollout til further testing was considered. This was then overturned by the political appointee, acting head of the FDA, which cleared the regulatory obstruction to the White House’s 3rd jab policy. The matter was then turned over to the CDC where their independent advisory panel considered the matter and concluded, again that it was reasonable to use the 3rd jab in the elderly but no one else. The political appointee, head of the CDC, then decided to overrule the finding of their independent advisory board as well. This clears the way, by political fiat, quite against protocol(surprise, surprise) for the 3rd jab rollout in the US without further ado or testing.
@Bear
This is the unfortunate result of the loss of trust between the public health leaders and the public they serve. This is why it is so important that such leaders on public health demonstrate a sense of leadership and support the public with full disclosures and transparency while addressing any concerns that might arise, not with mockery, threats or clever data collection, but with clear and honest answers. I have noted that the use of weekly press conferences, at leaset, would have helped prevent this disconnect, much like with Trump’s press conferences last year provided the public with an assurance of how things were progressing with the virus. When the public health leaders are caught making desperate moves like a third jab with no supportive data, “just hope” as the CDC noted weeks after the Israeli 3rd jab mandate began, it can not help but undermine public trust, particularly in those who held a resistance to do so before this. It is unfortunate, but I doubt the public will have a restoration in such groups for some time, and, like with the reluctance to use Regeneron, this will have an unfortunate effect.
By the way, Regeneron is very useful to reduce the free floating virus in the blood, but it does not treat the established infections in the cells or the resulting inflammatory phase or the blood clots. So, while it is a very important element of treatment, it is inadequate by itself to prevent symptoms, but will help reduce the level of infection from growing further after the infusion. But the virus itself is not the problem, its the resulting inflammation and blood clots that cause severe disease and death.
Regeneron was authorized last month by the CDC, which is likely why it is now being used in Israel, though it has been used in the US upon request since a year ago. It has been restricted in the US to patients who are not hospitalized. Do you know if this is true in Israel as well?
I agree with Bennett. Bennett believes getting people vaccinated helps tremendously and nothing constructive will come out of shutting down the economy.
Side note:
Israel has started treating patients who have Covid with Regeneron.
Unfortunately, a breaking report by Mako said that coronavirus patients who oppose the vaccine are also refusing to take Regeneron: Out of seven patients offered the drug by the Meuhedet HMO, six of them refused to take it. According to a Meuhedet official, the patients said they were under tremendous pressure from their communities to refuse the treatment.
So sadly people who are refusing the vaccine are refusing to allow the treatment (of what has shown to work well) to help themselves.
@peloni
OK, lets wait and see.
I bet that there will be new restrictions but Bennett will go on record as “a brave fighter for our freedom” (the old Bibi trick which works on most people every time).
I bet that the old restrictions will stay in place in any case and the push for vaccinations will continue.
I will be only too happy to be proven wrong.
See, I don’t care for their brave noises, nor for how attractive they look.
I care for the Jewish settlement, aliyah, and health and well-being of the Jewish nation.
For the last 30 years the Government of Israel has shown that it doesn’t care for any of the above (unless you substitute the word “Arab” for the word “Jewish”).
In terms of the health and well-being of the Jewish nation, anyone who is pushing vaccines in Israel is a murderer (and I don’t care for any of their excuses).
@Reader
This is a silly and obvious statement and is completely unrelated to anything I stated or alluded towards.
No one is going to make a 180 degree change in policy, not in the midst of being told he will have good results in 2weeks – and, no, I am confident the two weeks will pass without strong gains, but let’s hope this proves false. He has, however, made a stark change in policy. Perhaps I am reading more into things with the hope he has an intent to do something more, but what he has done by publicly stating he will not turn to more stringent lockdown measures should not be seen as political maneuvering to balance his poll numbers – this action, like everything in Israel’s virus/vaccine policy, will have reactions well beyond the borders of Israel. Bennett knows if he doesn’t fix the virus outbreak, that he needn’t bother worrying about his poll numbers or even running. His current public admonition of his medical advisors, who only speak for the Fauci et al, however, is a pivotal point in which he has overruled further steps towards the lockdown repressions which are part of the Fauci plan. You may not appreciate the significance here, but it is quite stark, and he would not play with what he believed was a winning policy with the virus to gain a temporary poll advantage when there is no looming election. He has overruled the wishes of Fauci and his lieutenants and he has done so in public for the world to witness, without any equivocation after it was reported in the press. He would not have done so if he did not believe that doing so would not impair his virus policy. This is very important and I applaud this limited but significant distinction in policy between Israel and other nations such as Australia, which are more in line with the Fauci model, I believe.
On a secondary note, his being a entrepreneur should also not automatically disqualify anyone to be prime minister, either. Management skills are very important. It is not something common to us all. It is hard to make the hard calls and sometimes such judgements are in error. But recognizing such failures and acting upon them is an important aspect of a successful manager. And it is also important to gain the respect and support of the people or nation you lead that you are acting on their behalf towards a successful resolution, in which lockdowns will not result. It was important for him to make that call and it was important that this information was relayed to the public as it was. It is in fact important to be able to manage successes and crises in both management and politics, and having such a skill already established is nothing to dismiss lightly, especially when it is being employed to some extent, in any case. I look forward to his continued use of such measured authority and good judgement towards a beneficial outcome. Perhaps we can do medical treatments next.
In fact such leadership as he has displayed here is something that is failing in the US, UK, Italy, Germany, France, Australia(in spades) and nearly everywhere in the Western democracies. He is not looking for a scapegoat or an olive branch. He has a problem, he expects solutions, ones that are appropriate and will result in these numbers dropping rather than stagnating as they are currently doing.
@peloni
It is not a question of belief.
You can open the link that I provided and read the comments which support my view.
When I first saw the title of the article on A7, I thought “Wow! He’s made a 180 degree turnaround!” (because he’s been forcing the jab on everyone, attacking the unvaccinated, and siccing the rest of the population on them) but after I saw the comments, I understood what is happening.
I knew that he is Bibi #2, just in a cruder version but I find this really sickening.
It’s a political trick advised by his marketers because the people are chafing under the existing restrictions (which are just slightly better than the ones in Australia), and his pushing harder apparently cost him some points in the polls.
Being an entrepreneur does not automatically qualify anyone to be prime minister or anyone else.
Americans worship business and money and it skews their judgement.
@Reader
I don’t believe this is true. This was a public move to demand results rather than excuses by a man who is a former entrepreneur who likely owes his success in life by having those under him meet expectation rather than offer excuses. Entrepreneurs, or the more successful ones, have the great capacity to judge when they are being misled or being led by those who have less than certainty about tasks which have been delegated to them. Bennett was promised a result of further vaccinations which has failed to materialize. The Israeli’s, as others, were very impressed with the vaccine’s ability to crush the curve last winter. In truth, there were very concerning questions in the winter about the people who were dying following the rollout, questions that were never asked by anyone in authority, or at least not publicly.
It is a common misunderstanding about immunology, apparently, that if two shots worked once, a third shot will just reinflate the tire. The problem lies in that this policy is badly flawed by having no scientific support that it would actually work, and the unpleasant reality that there are significant consequences that might ensue from such a radical move as to vaccinate with no guiding data, consequences such as original antigenic sin and high load tolerance, which neither Bennett nor Bibi, nor likely many people, are aware and which could be a consequence of this policy. These are politicians who have medical advisors on public health matters to ‘tell’ them what is the best course of action. The fact that Bennett has stepped up to the plate and demanded the expected outcome rather than falling back on repressive measures now employed in Australia, is not just a relief to see, it is very encouraging and very bold. The fact that he has publicly thrown down the gauntlet against his medical advisors who all answer to the US medical establishment should be seen as the most important factor, I believe.
Bennet is, in fact, doing something that no other world leader has yet done. He is questioning and refusing the ‘orders’ of his medical advisers(tyrants) who are unaccustomed to being questioned or having their orders refused. In complete disregard of anyone’s views on the vaccines, this, by itself, was a significant victory. Israel is a most important player in this worldwide project of medical tyranny. The Israeli public have trusted the orders of their govt, for the most part, in this medical experiment, and the eyes of the world have been quite fixed upon the Jewish State since they accepted this role of the advance guard. For Israel to so publicly rebel and shame the very source of this medical authoritarianism, was not done lightly, and the world is still watching.
It seems to me that he has given them a deadline to demonstrate success, and failing that who knows…perhaps more constructive measures might be employed in the form of treatments. Perhaps, I am being optimistic in this view, but there is little else I can draw from his public reproach. He is not hedging his bets as I think you suggest, but playing the role of an entrepreneur who delegated a task with expectations that are clearly not being met, regardless of the managed studies being released to disguise this fact. He is demanding results which were promised and failed to materialize – very typical of someone with his background, and very reassuring to see.
Bennett is playing political games.
He is the worst chameleon trying to minimize personal damage from his war on the unvaccinated.
Here is a comment from under this article on A7:
The CCP Virus is not going anywhere. Get used to it.
Improve your health situation now before you get the Chinese weaponized virus.
Well past time they allowed such treatments even as people die needlessly every day with no treatment.
I agree with Bennett. He is favouring personal freedom over medical hardship.
Its about timer the state permitted and promoted therapeutics like hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin.
And furthermore there’s a connection to his belief that if Israel loves Arab Palestinians they will love Jews back. This man is quite mad.
Bennett by this position shows that he’s a demagogue. It is easy to order Fix It. And worse he surprises me since this position is anti science. This is a highly infectious airborne virus. His claim sport involving unvaccinated does not infect is weird