Who’s Really Being Hospitalized?

Breakthrough cases reach majority levels in some jurisdictions but numbers elude CDC

BY Jennifer Margulis, EPOCH TIMES   August 30, 2021

“I’m not going to arm wrestle with the administration about where to put you,” Dr. C., a highly skilled gastroenterologist, said gently to my friend who was in bed in a triage room in the ER. “We just want to get you into a bed so we can figure out what’s wrong and get you treated.”

We were at our small town’s hospital. No one was sure why, but my friend had not been able to keep anything more than a handful of raspberries down since a complicated surgery for a chronic health condition three weeks before. Dehydrated and unable to eat, my friend had been violently vomiting after taking just a sip of water or sucking on an ice chip, and had lost nearly twenty-five pounds.

I was by my husband’s side when he had a gallbladder attack so severe that it left his hands shaking. I’ve had three unmedicated childbirths and attended many more, both as a journalist and a patient advocate. Still, I’ve never seen a human in so much pain.

Diagnosed with a Pancreas Disorder, Admitted as a COVID Patient

After a battery of testing, my friend was diagnosed with pancreatitis. But it was easier for the hospital bureaucracy to register the admission as a COVID case.

Let me explain. This patient had none of the classic symptoms of COVID: No shortness of breath, no fever, no chills, no congestion, no loss of sense of smell or taste, no neurological issues. The only COVID symptoms my friend had were nausea and fatigue, which could also be explained by the surgery. However, nearly three weeks earlier, a COVID test had come back positive.

The mainstream media is reporting that severe COVID cases are mainly among unvaccinated people. An Associated Press headline from June 29 reads: “Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated.” Another, from the same date: “Vast majority of ICU patients with COVID-19 are unvaccinated, ABC News survey finds.”

Is that what’s really going on? It’s certainly not the case in Israel, the first country to fully vaccinate a majority of its citizens against the virus. Now it has one of the highest daily infection rates and the majority of people catching the virus (77 percent to 83 percent, depending on age) are already vaccinated, according to data collected by the Israeli government.

After carefully reviewing the available data, including the safety and efficacy profiles of the mRNA vaccines, my friend had taken a cautious approach. Though a medical doctor who gives vaccines in the office every day, my friend opted to wait and see. According to WebMD, a “huge number” of frontline hospital workers have also chosen not to get the vaccine. Indeed, various news reports, from California to New York, confirm that up to 40 percent of health care workers have decided the risks of the vaccines do not outweigh the benefits.

After admission, I spoke to the nurse on the COVID ward. She was suited up in a plastic yellow disposable gown, teal gloves, and two masks underneath a recirculating personal respiratory system that buzzed so loudly she could barely hear. The nurse told me that she had gotten both vaccines but she was feeling worried: “Two thirds of my patients are fully vaccinated,” she said.

Israel confirmed cases table

 

Data Limitations

How can there be such a disconnect between what the COVID ward nurse told me and the mainstream media reports? For one thing, it is very hard to get any kind of accuracy when it comes to actual numbers. In fact, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have publicly acknowledged that they do not have accurate data.

As reported by the Associated Press, “The CDC itself has not estimated what percentage of hospitalizations and deaths are in fully vaccinated people, citing limitations in the data.”

At the same time, data collection is done on a state by state basis. In most states, a person is only considered fully vaccinated fourteen days after they have had the full series of the vaccine.

This means that anyone coming into an American hospital who has only had one dose, or who has had both vaccines but had the second one less than two weeks prior, will likely be counted as “unvaccinated.”

So when the South Carolina’s Department of Health and Environmental Control released a report about COVID severity on July 23, 2021, they reported higher morbidity and mortality rates in the “not fully vaccinated.” Are these people who have had one vaccine and gotten sick, two vaccines and gotten sick, or no vaccines at all? Without more details, it is impossible to know what is really going on.

“We don’t have accurate numbers,” insists Dr. James Neuenschwander, an expert on vaccine safety based in Ann Arbor, Michigan.

But what we do know, Neuenschwander says, is that the vaccines are not as effective as public health officials told us they would be. “This is a product that’s not doing what it’s supposed to do. It’s supposed to stop transmission of this virus and it’s not doing that.”

Overcounting COVID

Then there is the problem of attributing severe illness and deaths from other causes to COVID, like in my friend’s case. Health authorities around the world have been doing this since the beginning of the COVID crisis. For example, a young man in Orange County, Florida who died in a motorcycle crash last summer was originally considered a COVID death by state health officials (after Fox News investigation the classification was changed.) And a middle-aged construction worker fell off a ladder in Croatia and was also counted as a death from COVID (whether having COVID played a role in his death is still unclear.)

To muddy the waters further, even people who test negative for COVID are sometimes counted as COVID deaths.

Consider the case of 26-year-old Matthew Irvin, a father of three from Yamhill County, Oregon. As reported by KGW8 News, Irvin went to the ER with stomach pain, nausea, and diarrhea on July 5, 2020. But instead of admitting him to the hospital, the doctors sent him home.

Five days later, on July 10, 2020, Irvin died. Though his COVID test came back negative two days after his death and his family told reporters and public health officials that no one Irvin had been around had any COVID symptoms, the medical examiner allegedly told the family that an autopsy was not necessary, listing his death as a coronavirus case. It took the Oregon Health Authority two and a half months to correct the mistake.

In an even more striking example of overcounting COVID deaths, a nursing home in New Jersey that only has 90 beds was wrongly reported as having 753 deaths from COVID. According to a spokesman, they had fewer than twenty deaths. In other words, the number of deaths was over-reported by 3,700 percent.

Who’s Suffering from Severe COVID, Vaccinated or Unvaccinated?

In countries with the highest numbers of vaccinated individuals, we are also seeing high numbers of infections. Iceland has one of the most vaccinated populations in the world (over 82 percent) and is reporting that 77 percent of new COVID cases are in fully vaccinated Icelanders, according to Ásthildur Knútsdóttir, Director General of the Ministry of Health.

According to news reports, over 85 percent of the Israeli adult population has been vaccinated. But a July report from Israel’s Ministry of Health found that Pfizer’s vaccine is only 39 percent effective. Though Israeli health officials are telling the public that the cases are more mild in vaccinated individuals, this upsurge in COVID cases and deaths is leading Israel’s prime minister to issue new restrictions.

Dr. Peter McCullough, an academic internist and cardiologist in practice in Dallas, Texas, says that a large number of people in the hospitals right now have, indeed, been fully vaccinated. “Fully vaccinated people are being hospitalized, and … 19 percent of them have died,” McCullough says. “This is not a crisis of the unvaccinated. That’s just a talking point. The vaccinated are participating in this.”

Other physicians are seeing the same thing. “In my practice multiple patients who are fully vaccinated have been admitted to local hospitals,” says Dr. Jeffrey I. Barke, a board-certified primary care physician based in Newport Beach, California. Barke believes part of the problem is exaggeration of the efficacy: “If the vaccine works so well, why are we now pushing a booster?”

Jennifer Margulis, Ph.D., is an award-winning journalist and author of Your Baby, Your Way: Taking Charge of Your Pregnancy, Childbirth, and Parenting Decisions for a Happier, Healthier Family. A Fulbright awardee and mother of four, she has worked on a child survival campaign in West Africa, advocated for an end to child slavery in Pakistan on prime-time TV in France, and taught post-colonial literature to non-traditional students in inner-city Atlanta. Learn more about her at JenniferMargulis.net<
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  1. @Adam, Thanks for the info, I’ve been waiting for that fight for a while. I am a member of BoxingScene.I joined in 2004 and the site began in 2003. .

    Oscar was a damned good boxer but not perfect. He DID lose to Trinidad and was on the verge of a KO for the last 3 rounds saving himself by actually runnung around the ring. Mosley, whom he’d avoided for years, beat him in a brilliant fight although it was called a split decision. Their return was MUCH closer, and Mosley got a unanimous decision. Boxing judges are notoriously cross-eyed..

    Just the day before yesterday, Trinidad made the news again saying he had refused Oscar’s offer of a comeback fight, that he was RETIRED, and would stay that way. He’s also 48, made tens of millions from Don King -if you can believe THAT- but was swindled by his financial advisor with phony investments, so has been broke for years. But he’s a Puerto Rico national hero so he’ll get by very well.

    Again thanks for the info. I know your point was that vaccinated people can and do get the virus again, but I am so disappointed about that fight.

  2. This from today’s Daily Mail UK:

    Boxer Oscar De La Hoya, 48, tests positive for COVID despite being fully vaccinated
    Oscar De La Hoya has withdrawn from his upcoming comeback fight after being hospitalized with COVID-19.

    The 48-year-old revealed his diagnosis on Friday – eight days before he was scheduled to step into the ring to take on former UFC champion Vitor Belfort at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.

    De La Hoya announced he had contracted the coronavirus despite being fully vaccinated.

    He shared a video to Twitter from his hospital bed accompanied by a caption which read: ‘I wanted you to hear directly from me that despite being fully vaccinated, I have contracted COVID and am not going to be able to fight next weekend.

  3. @Raphael
    Very good summary of the discussion.

    I would like to add something that I alluded to but failed to actually state clearly. These members of the medical infrastructure are responsible for building one of the finest medical communities in the whole of world history, perhaps the very finest. In faith to the admiration that I hold for what they have achieved over the years, I have to state categorically that the literature that they are placing under their own fact-check/myth-vs-truth pages hold out right lies, and not mild distortions. The example that @Bear unknowingly provided which states categorically, from Yale, that there was no rush or skipped testing is an example of such an outright lie. Some people may have faith in the vax or distrust them, but this point about no rush in developing them can have no debate by any honest man.

    It is an example of the result following the Trusted News Initiative and their stated goal to squash all dissent on this topic. Their policy is an undemocratic, coordinated global effort orchestrated towards the suppression of many simple truths while proffering of many outright lies by such recognized giants as Yale, all to establish these little examined, poorly researched vax as being well tested, safe and effective. Participation in such a foreign construct as this Americanized form of the Tass agency is a stain on those membership organizations of the medical community which allow themselves to be so badly manipulated by offering their history of commitment to scientific exploration and medical research as a bona fide testimony of the safety and efficacy of the vac. I would suggest that such easy parting of the truth from fiction actually should call to mind that age old attage that is describes the basis of any system being supported by such lies – namely, that fraud vitiates everything. As Raphael states,

    government has so thoroughly destroyed its credibility, across the board, not just in the healthcare arena, that one would be an absolute fool to trust them on this life and death issue

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    As I say, very nice summation.

  4. Wow! There’s a lot of hair-splitting going on here…who’s lying and who’s not, who get’s counted as a covid case and who doesn’t…on and on it goes. It’s a rather unprofitable debate. The bottom line is, as far as I can tell, is that the figures are wildly unreliable, no matter who you listen to.

    So, let’s move on to more useful topics, such as identifying and distributing effective and cheap medications, rather than relying on a risky, experimental, vaccine (which is technically not a vaccine), of arguable efficacy. I’m sure that we will find a fair share of “liars” in this forum, too, but at least the conclusions drawn may be more useful.

    @Bear Klein who said, below, “When so much wrong information is readily available, convincing people to get vaccinated has proven to be a huge challenge.”

    Good point, to which I would respond, yes, it is a huge challenge. The government has so thoroughly destroyed its credibility, across the board, not just in the healthcare arena, that one would be an absolute fool to trust them on this life and death issue. Maybe Pelosi, Schumer, and their Deep State buddies should have thought about that first, if they had really wanted everyone to drink their Covid CoolAid.

  5. Booster set-back. Looks like they might be waiting for more data amid less hope.

    Top Health Officials Push Back Against Biden’s Booster Jabs Plan
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    by Tyler Durden
    Friday, Sep 03, 2021 – 11:23 AM

    Just as President Biden was promising to unveil new federal measures for combating the delta variant next week, the NYT dropped a bombshell report claiming that the heads of the CDC and FDA had advised the White House to scale back its plan for booster shots.

    During a meeting at the White House, they reportedly asked White House pandemic coordinator Jeff Zients for more time to collect data on the efficacy of booster shots, according to the NYT’s sources.

    Dr. Janet Woodcock, the acting commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, and Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky, who heads the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, warned the White House on Thursday that their agencies may be able to determine in the coming weeks whether to recommend boosters only for recipients of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine — and possibly just some of them to start.

    The two health leaders made their argument in a meeting with Jeffrey D. Zients, the White House pandemic coordinator. Several people who heard about the session said it was unclear how Mr. Zients responded. But he has insisted for months that the White House will always follow the advice of government scientists, wherever it leads.

    In response to the NYT’s questions, the White House said it’s merely trying to “follow the science”. That this statement is blatantly untrue shouldn’t require too much explanation. Let’s review: pushing for mandatory masks in schools, refusing to accept natural immunity, pushing for vaccine passports etc.

    Asked about the meeting, a White House spokesman on Friday said, “We always said we would follow the science, and this is all part of a process that is now underway,” adding that the administration was awaiting a “full review and approval” of booster shots by the F.D.A. as well as a recommendation from the C.D.C.

    “When that approval and recommendation are made,” the spokesman, Chris Meagher, said, “we will be ready to implement the plan our nation’s top doctors developed so that we are staying ahead of this virus.”

    President Biden has said the plan is for every adult to get a booster shot eight months after you got your second shot, with the president claiming it wil end the pandemic faster. Of course, in recent weeks, more doctors have spoken out against booster shots, claiming it would be better for them to go to the developing world, to people who haven’t received any jabs, that way it can help protect against the emergence of a new deadlier and more infectious variant.

    And they’re not alone: while Israel pushes ahead with its plan for booster jabs, the EU’s equivalent to the CDC has broken with the Biden Administration saying this week that booster jabs aren’t necessary. And senior officials at the FDA have also stepped down over their disagreements aboout booster jabs.

    Advisers to the FDA are expected to discuss two key questions when they meet on Sept. 17 to consider a COVID-19 vaccine booster campaign this fall. The first: is protection from the initial shots waning, and the second: will boosters help?

    By moving ahead unilaterally, the White House usurped the CDC and FDA’s authority over these types of health-related calls, Reuters added.

    “The recommendation shouldn’t precede the data, which is what happened here. And that’s why people are so upset,” said a source close to the FDA advisory panel who was not authorized to speak on the record.

    Take a look at this piece of ‘news analysis’ published by Reuters.

    Shares of Moderna skidded lower on the news, as this is the latest sign that real resistance to Biden’s booster jabs for all plan is growing.

  6. @shimmy218

    The “funding” for government employees is the promise of a lucrative job for corporations after they finish their public service.

    Nice summary on the corporate hold on the University systems.

    In addition to this, though, we should note the role that Pharma plays in actually funding the govt organizations that oversee them. This is covered in this Forbe’s article “The Biopharmaceutical Industry Provides 75% Of The FDA’s Drug Review Budget. Is This A Problem?”

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnlamattina/2018/06/28/the-biopharmaceutical-industry-provides-75-of-the-fdas-drug-review-budget-is-this-a-problem/?sh=7a983cc849ec

    The amount changes based on the source and date, but Pharma should not be paying the oversight division of the govt that is intended to keep Pharma from doing as it pleases. I think if it were Al Capone instead of Pharma, this would not be allowed, so why is it with Pharma. It violates any arm’s length procedure between the govt and as shimmy218 notes it can not help but promote “the promise of a lucrative job for corporations after they finish their public service”, of which, Hahn and Aleazar and many others all take advantage. Corruption is the result of the fox paying the guardians of the hen house. It’s a great deal if you are the fox or the guard, but not so much if you are one of the hens…

  7. @adamdalgliesh

    The Israeli “experts” don’t seem to “get” this.

    “An expert is someone who knows exactly what those who hired him want him to say” – an inexact quote, I don’t remember who said it.

  8. There are a LOT of well meaning people out there in the world. The problem with universities and medical schools/hospital systems is that their policies and projects are subject to and largely dictated by FUNDING. It’s the skewed priorities of the sponsors that destroys the systemic values. The vast portion of the funding comes from corporate sponsorship. The “mentality“ of a corporation, which also happens to be their legal fiduciary responsibility and highest priority is to maximize shareholder value. The highest value they operate by is purely financial. In a market economy the only thing that protects the consumer is indirectly this drive to make as much money as possible. You want the consumer to like what is being provided so that ultimately your business continues to prosper. In most areas in life, this automatically aligns business interests with consumer interests. But there are a number of problem areas. I would argue that wherever the consumer is convinced by outside influencers that something intangible and invisible is better for them than an alternative, you have a breakdown of the aforementioned built-in protection. Then if something harmful to the consumer will add to the bottom line if implemented, and there are no financial or criminal consequences, the larger force at play of maximizing shareholder value will take over by default. So you need to understand, something like medical technology whether devices screenings or drugs can rarely be understood well enough by the consumer. Inherently in much of these cases, there is little incentive to protect the consumer from harmful interventions unless the results are extremely obvious, which in most cases it is not. The only thing left to protect people is government regulation, which is unfortunately also subject to a parallel problem. The “funding” for government employees is the promise of a lucrative job for corporations after they finish their public service. So good people or not, organizations are no longer simply a composition of the people who work in them. They take on a life of their own.

  9. (2 of 2)
    The distinction between vaccinated and unvaccinated was intended to mean that the vaccinated were protected – need I recall the 95% effective mantra – and only the unvaccinated were susceptible. Unfortunately, the virus doesn’t read the propaganda, and the vax can not be judged as being protective. So, the vaccinated and unvaccinated, regarding testing only, should be seen as the same group, ie potentially susceptible to exposure. Covid recovered patients, however, are immune, unless they were diagnosed with Covid while having the flue, for example – another unfortunate consequence to the 90% false positive rate of PCR.

    The testing does not, however, test for illness. It tests for the presence of something associated with the virus depending on the test, but it does not indicate an active infection. So the indication that someone has illness is when they have symptoms. The CDC has not authorized the use of these tests for asymptomatic cases without prior exposure, ie no symptoms+no exposure=>no test and no diagnosis of disease.

    Exposure by the susceptible(vaccinated/unvaccinated) should require that the person be quarantined. Testing for the unvaccinated is not really needed, as the disease is well known and the quarentine is effective at showing if the person will develop disease or not. The vaccinated, however, develop disease later than unvaccinated people, so they should be tested so superspreaders are prevented.

    If you are already recovered from Covid, you are immune to every part of the virus, ie you are safe from further infection. If you are vaccinated, their is a very high potential of you suffering from the worse forms of the adverse reactions to the vaccine. Your body is primed to respond to the spike, so injecting a source of a large quantity of spike that will result in spike throughout the body(Japanese Bioassay) results in a massive immune reaction to the spike. When you are exposed, your mucous membranes in mouth and nasal passages have the protective mechanism to prevent the disease going further, so you don’t have body-wide reactions. When you inject the spike into the body, you are setting up a very real possibility of harm with no, zero, benefit. But vaccinating a person who is recovered, will not cause them to develop the immune-hijacking(ADE) that we spoke of previously. The vaccinating Covid recoverdd patients could also reduce their immune response to the non-spike parts of the virus. Again, zero benefit with possible harm, it should be avoided.

    A vaccine is not a treatment for a disease. If they are testing people and administering the vaccine to people who are testing positive, they are weakening their immunity while holding a presumptive diagnosis that an infection is present which can be dangerous in a life-threatening disease such as Covid.

    Only treatments should be used as treatments, and if they were, as in India, many things could be returned to a manageable point of chaos.
    /2

  10. (1 of2)
    @Adam

    There are two failures at play in the handling of Covid outbreak the lack of treatment and the use of testing to determine illness. These are each backward science as they have been employed over the past 18months. And the negative consequence of this may be quite devastating as the Delta outbreak continues

    Delta causes alot of people to become ill. The overfilling of hospitals is what is most important to avoid with facing the Delta onslaught without using any treatment. Recall that in India, they were crippled by Delta and they were using some treatments, but no prophylaxis. So with the treatment plan that worked for over a year, they were overwhelmed with spiraling cases and no way to cope. This is a very important lesson. So it is vital to accurately know who is sick with Covid and who is not.

    With this in mind, we should take note that you can’t kill what you can’t find, and if you find what you are hunting everywhere you look, well that is not helpful. The use of PCR at high sensitivity(cycle thresholds) is known to give a 90% false positive result. The use of a pre-screening test will help with this false error rate, but the cases that are negative on the pre-screening test will then go to PCR with its upto 90% false positive rating. A better system is vitally needed.

    The antigen testing is an important component as a screening test, as it tests for the viral envelop and not the spike protein, so it won’t test positive for vaccinated people unless they have been exposed. Still the screening test does not mean you are ill.

    The screening test by Quidel is suppose to have very high accuracy if it is positive, but the testing is less accurate after a few days and there are many false negatives. Quidel tests for a antigen on the envelop of the virus, not the spike so it does indicate the presence of either a living or dead virus, but not infection and not illness. The test requires a large number of antigens to be present so, this would help support the conclusion the positive is positive but this requirement of having a large number of antigens means it has a lot of false negatives. This means before you can be said to be negative you should have a confirmatory test performed, but the only confirmatory test(PCR) has a false + of 90% when set to high sensitivity which CDC mandates for unvaccinated people. It should be noted that the antigen tests in general have high variability in practical applications as was seen last year. This Quidel Sofia Q test being used in Israel is supposed to have high accuracy, but I have not heard any independent reviews on it – if anyone sees such a review, please share it.
    /1

  11. The JP article says that 90,000 Israelis “have corona,” , or 7.9 per cent of those tested in recent days. But this includes everyone who has tested positive in a massive testing campaign, not just those who are sick. Most of these “cases” are probably asymptomatic. If that is the case, then most of these people have probably acquired immunity to the virus and don’t need to be vaccinated. The Israeli “experts” don’t seem to “get” this.

    Of the 90,000 who tested positive during the past week, a little more than 900 are hospitalized and only about 650 are described as “seriously ill.” That is well under one-tenth of one percent (000.1 per cent) of all those who have “tested positive.” during the testing binge.

    Israel does not have aserious corona virus problem at present. It has hysterical medical and political “experts” who will probably “succeed” in making large numbers of children and teenagers ill with incurable cases of cv19-2 illness.

  12. Experts have said that the spike in new cases is tied to the Education and Health ministries’ request of parents to administer COVID tests to their children at home ahead of the start of the school year, which started on Wednesday. Around half of the new diagnoses were students under age 18.
    The antigen tests likely revealed cases of asymptomatic infection. Parents were asked to take their kids to their local health funds to verify positive results, thereby entering the students into the national corona statistical database.
    In total, more than 40,000 students have been diagnosed with the virus. In addition, some 57,000 are in isolation, the Education Ministry has reported.

    Also from the Jerusalem Post. The Israelis are apparently classifying anyone whose tests positive on a test for the virus as a “case” even if they are asymptomatic. Also, the are giving people, including children, vaccines if they test positive on an “antigen test,” which means their bodies have already fought off the virus. Giving a vaccination to people who have already acquired immunity to the virus is very dangerous. An overstimulated immune system can cause the excess antibodies to attach themselves to the viral cells and make them entirely resistant to any vaccine or treatment (What is the scientific name for this, Peloni? Do I understand this matter correctly?)

  13. For my part I don’t believe that “every medical school and institution just all liars and in a grand conspiracy to make people sicker and do the wrong thing.” I believe that these institutions have been the basis for curing and solving enormous medical dilemmas over the years and that they have made an enormous impact upon the public’s health. In spite of this, though, when they call a red shirt as being blue, we should not respect them so highly as to accept as fact what we know is not true. Medical initiative and medical science is only furthered by the use of medical judgement in pursuing the best care of a patient. When such judgements are left to bureaucrats to decide for the medical community, people will, as they have, die as a consequence to physicians’ judgements being replaced with corrupt politicians’ objectives.

    We are all well aware of the state managed propaganda which is coordinated with a state managed censorship objective of maintaining the vax as safe and effective, regardless of any findings. So when we find such hallmark institutions such as Yale Medical College or John Hopkins carrying what is obvious propaganda markers, it should not surprise anyone. They are part of the establishment that is pursuing this Noble Lie(hate that term) that Malone and others has spoken of quite at length. So they are not “just all liars”. Their objective is to carry out the vax campaign as is stated in the Trusted News Initiative. The US has a coordinated a propaganda/censorship policy that is being pursued on a Whole of Govt basis. This govt mandated response to a medical crisis is as effective as the govts’ response to any problem – it is overly costly and its effectiveness is wide of the mark. As a consequence, people are being harmed. Beyond that, anyone’s stated opinion of motive in allowing this harm is irrelevant to the fact that people are suffering needlessly. So, I don’t care if people think as Zelenko does, or if they agree with Malone’s claim of the Noble Lie as being the true motive, as it is quite irrelevant to what is vitally important. The propaganda/censorship policy is harming people and this must stop, before it becomes much worse.

  14. I guess one way to look at that every medical school and institution are just all liars and in a grand conspiracy to make people sicker and do the wrong thing. Maybe they are not lying and are trying to providing the best medical solutions available at the time and information available.

    Freedom of thought prevails. Everyone can believe what they view as correct!

  15. A few corrections to my earlier comments about the Jerusalem Post article. The author only claims that out of people over 60, not all Israelis, 209 unvaccinated elders out of a total of 100,000 are seriously ill with COVID, while 222 out of 1.5 million over-60 vaccinated individuals are seriously ill with COVID. However, I still find these numbers overly “round” to be accurate.

    And there is still a problem with 5.5 million Israelis being “fully vaccinated” and “less than a million” being “unvaccinated.” What ever happened to the 2.8 million Israelis whom the reporter has left out of both categories? Have they all suddenly decamped for the United States?

  16. The number of serious cases who are unvaccinated has surpassed the number of vaccinated, despite there being nearly 5.5 million fully vaccinated (two shots) Israelis and less than one million unvaccinated. Some 363 serious patients are unvaccinated, according to the Health Ministry, and 282 are vaccinated.
    Moreover, 209 unvaccinated people over the age of 60 are in serious condition – out of only 100,000 unvaccinated people – compared with 222 vaccinated individuals out of 1.5 million.

    This from today’s Jerusalem Post. Although the Post reporter gives report a pro-vaccine “spin,” extensively quoting Bennett and other officials advocating that everyone including school children should be vaccinated, the statistic cited show that a significant number of vaccinated people are in serious condition fro m the virus.

    Notice, though, the highly selective reporting in order to give these numbers a pro-vaccine spin. “Unvaccinated,” for example is undefined. Does that include all those who have not received both shots? Are those who have received only one shot considered “unvaccinated?”

    The reporter gives a total figure for both “vaccinated “and “unvaccinated” people add up to only 5.6 million people. Since Israel has a population of 9.3 million people, what happened to the remaining 3.6 million people? Are they vaccinated or unvaccinated?

    Notice also the suspiciously round number of “100,000” for the total number of unvaccinated people. “100,000” in statistics is usually a number used to report how many people “out of 100,000” have this or that problem, not the total number of people with the problem, which is what this reporter says it means.

    But despite all the reporter’s bias, he does reluctantly acknowledge that many of the people who are considered seriously ill with CV2 by the health department have been fully vaccinated.

  17. message …considering boosters is stark: “Do not think that the boosters are the solution.”

    What is clear is that “breakthrough” cases are not the rare events the term implies. As of 15 August, 514 Israelis were hospitalized with severe or critical COVID-19, a 31% increase from just 4 days earlier. Of the 514, 59% were fully vaccinated. Of the vaccinated, 87% were 60 or older. “There are so many breakthrough infections that they dominate and most of the hospitalized patients are actually vaccinated,” says Uri Shalit, a bioinformatician at the Israel Institute of Technology (Technion) who has consulted on COVID-19 for the government. “One of the big stories from Israel [is]: ‘Vaccines work, but not well enough.’”

    Yet boosters are unlikely to tame a Delta surge on their own, says Dvir Aran, a biomedical data scientist at Technion. In Israel, the current surge is so steep that “even if you get two-thirds of those 60-plus [boosted], it’s just gonna give us another week, maybe 2 weeks until our hospitals are flooded.”

    https://www.science.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta

    Hope(that word again) he’s wrong.

    message …considering boosters is stark: “Do not think that the boosters are the solution.”

  18. @Bear
    Fact checks are very bad sources of info. I think they want to be noticed for how bad the info is that they “have checked”. Lets just look at the last paragraph. It is a block of lies and propaganda.

    The other point I like to remind people is that these vaccines went through all the regulatory steps like any other vaccines. None of this was rushed. The FDA reviewed all the data. When you say “Emergency use,” people think it was rushed, but the way to think about it is that the benefits outweigh the risks

    No rush, huh? It was a pandemic, manufactured, but there was not just a rush, there was a mad rush to get the vax completed. Were we all born yesterday? This is a lie – easy, not discussion needed

    “these vaccines went through all the regulatory steps like any other vaccines”
    So, we, again, all know that this is also a lie, but lets look at what steps are missing as they tell you what we need to do, 10 months post-vax:
    1. No genotoxicity studies
    2. No teratogenicity studies – tells if vax wil cause mutations in our offspring now or in future.
    3. Concerning fertiltiy data that has not been addressed – seems relavant and required by regulatory law under routine vax forced on pregnant women
    4. No External Critical Event Committee – provides comprehensive clinical endpoints services for clinical trials
    5. No Data Safety Monitoring Board SMB – is an independent group of experts who monitor patient safety and treatment efficacy data while a clinical trial is ongoing.
    6. No Human Ethics Board – enforces the Ethics In Public Service Act
    7. No vaccine restrictions to limit risk – this is why children’s vaccines are not given to adults
    This is just a few obvious things that were skipped that haven’t been even mentioned in the 10months since the vax rollout or the 10months prior to the rollout.

    “the way to think about it is that the benefits outweigh the risks”
    Here is the real punchline that shows you this is a true product of propaganda. The feed you a bunch of half truths, full lies, and then telly “the way to think about it.”

  19. Myths vs. Facts: Making Sense of COVID-19 Vaccine Misinformation
    When so much wrong information is readily available, convincing people to get vaccinated has proven to be a huge challenge.

    Myth: pronounced mith; noun; definition: a widely held but false belief or idea; synonyms: misconception, fallacy, fantasy, fiction.

    Among the many reasons COVID-19 vaccination rates in the United States peaked earlier than experts hoped—then, rather than crescendoing into the summer months, began trending downward—are myths that took hold among the unvaccinated and solidified as their reasons not to get the shots. The vaccine will make women sterile; the vaccines are too new; the shots have a microchip in them; the vaccine itself will give me COVID; I’m immune because I had COVID; breakthrough cases prove vaccines are useless.

    There are more. And none of them are true.

    But no matter how convincing and irrefutable the science and the data about the COVID-19 vaccines are, misinformation spreads so easily and quickly—largely through social media networks—that it has become a major barrier stopping the United States from reaching higher levels of vaccination (190 million people, or 57 percent of Americans, have received at least one shot) that would bring us closer to herd immunity.

    So let’s cut to the chase. Myth vs. Fact. The Brink took some of the most widespread myths to two leading infectious disease experts, Davidson Hamer, a faculty member of BU’s School of Public Health, School of Medicine, and National Emerging Infectious Diseases Laboratories, and Sabrina Assoumou, a BU School of Medicine assistant professor of medicine and of infectious diseases and a Boston Medical Center physician.

    If these two experts encountered someone on the street who cited one of these myths as their reason not to get vaccinated, this is what they would say to them. To provide extra context, we include one more fact.

    MYTH: The COVID vaccines were not rigorously tested, which is why they have only emergency authorization approval and not full Food and Drug Administration approval. (Update: Pfizer’s vaccine received full FDA approval on August 19)
    FACT: “Vaccine developers didn’t skip any testing steps, but conducted some of the steps on an overlapping schedule to gather data faster.”—Johns Hopkins Medicine

    FACT: The technology used, called messenger RNA, or mRNA, is not new. Research on it actually began in the early 1990s, and two diseases that are very close to COVID—SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) in 2003, and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome)—helped bring the mRNA vaccine development to present day use.—Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

    Assoumou: The reason this is called SARS-COV-2 is that there was a SARS-1, the original one, and scientists were working on this vaccine. So when this pandemic arrived they had already developed a lot of the science. A decade of work was actually going on. That’s one issue I like to emphasize when people think it was rushed.

    The other point I like to remind people is that these vaccines went through all the regulatory steps like any other vaccines. None of this was rushed. The FDA reviewed all the data. When you say “Emergency use,” people think it was rushed, but the way to think about it is that the benefits outweigh the risks

    Full article at https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/myths-vs-facts-covid-19-vaccine/

  20. NIH funds studies to assess potential effects of COVID-19 vaccination on menstruation
    https://www.nichd.nih.gov/newsroom/news/083021-COVID-19-vaccination-menstruation
    The NIH is spending 1.67million dollars, 9 1/2 months after the vaccine rollout to determine something they should have known about a very long time ago. No doubt the studies will be RCT so we will be looking for at least next year, or the next before the results are finished. Hopefully(there’s that word again), they won’t find anything, because by that time, it really will no longer be a question of “Should we do this?”, but rather “What are we going to do to fix what we did?” if they find something. And of course, we all know the toxic spike concentrates in the ovary, but again we don’t know what that means either. They will probably pursue a study on that when this one is done…

    Serious question: Why was this not pursued before the mandate to vaccinate pregnant women or even allow women of child bearing ages to be vaccinated? Millions of women in each of these categories are under the threat of whatever harm this might be, if there is any, which NO ONE KNOWS.

    Why do we have so little interests for the potential harms that should chill each of us to our very core.

    Of course, it isn’t that no one has been looking at this. Here are two studies:
    https://www.wbrc.com/2021/07/08/researchers-studying-reported-menstrual-changes-after-covid-19-vaccination/

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-Covid-vaccines-may-affect-periods.-Are-we-allowed-to-talk-about-this

    It’s just that these nickle-dime studies don’t have ability to determine what this means. And what were the findings?

    One researcher expected to find about 500 women with menstrual changes to respond. One study showed over 30,000 responded. Another showed over 130,000 responded. On a topic no one really wants to discuss.

    As a sponsor of the vax program NIH needs to be able to answer the simple question of “What. Does. This Mean?” and the answer needs to b something more explanatory than “its safe”. Only problem is, they really don’t want to know the answer or they already would.

  21. @Bear
    “pandemic of the unvaccinated”
    Again, this article was from June. It was updated in Aug, but this line is quite untrue both then and now.

    I find this article which was updated specifically on Delta just a few days ago does not have any mention of the reduced efficacy of the vax which was so well known in July that CNBC carried news of it:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html

    Instead this Yale article you shared cites the very outdated statistics of

    The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 88% effective against symptomatic disease and 96% effective against hospitalization from Delta

    which has been well known to be inaccurate data for well over 6wks now, and CDC new this before it was public in July, but still they support this fantasy yesteryear rubish as valid.

    These CDC propaganda pieces such as this will continue to circulate to support their failing products, as the will soon roll out a new untested booster, or at least they have yet to share any testing on it…

    As CDC Director noted in an intereview:
    Reporter: Is there hope or better yet data that getting this third booster shot could actually prevent transmission

    CDC Director: So there is actually hope, we don’t have any data yet. We do know that the higher levels of protection, certainly in the Alpha variant resulted in less transmission and we have not yet seen the data. But we are hopeful…

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1430291155837759494

    So with hope we will soon see the data while cases build with vaccinated numbers rising and still they will claim everything is effective, everything is safe, just ignore the man behind the curtain….and take the Damned shot already!

  22. Yale Medicine article – [Originally published: June 28, 2021. Updated: August 26, 2021.]

    Experts are starting to learn more about Delta and breakthrough cases. A Public Health England analysis (in a preprint that has not yet been peer-reviewed) showed at least two vaccines to be effective against Delta. The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 88% effective against symptomatic disease and 96% effective against hospitalization from Delta in the studies, while Oxford-AstraZeneca (which is not an mRNA vaccine and is not yet available in the U.S.) was 60% effective against symptomatic disease and 93% effective against hospitalization. The studies tracked participants who were fully vaccinated with both recommended doses.

    Moderna also reported on studies (not yet peer-reviewed) that showed its vaccine to be effective against Delta and several other mutations (researchers noted only a “modest reduction in neutralizing titers” against Delta when compared to its effectiveness against the original virus).

    “So, your risk is significantly lower than someone who has not been vaccinated and you are safer than you were before you got your vaccines,” Dr. Yildirim says.

    Full interesting article about Delta variant

    https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/5-things-to-know-delta-variant-covid

  23. @Bear
    That report is from July and it was a lie even when the article was freshly printed. In April, the CDC saw that vax breakthrough cases were rising. They acknowledged this by placing their heads in the sand and disguising the facts and hiding it from public knowledge. How did they do that? They purposefully stopped collecting any data at the federal level on vax breakthroughs. They left the collection to each state to pursue independently if they chose, and each state collects and displays data individually with separate standards of testing and levels of warning. To this day nearly half the states are still not collecting data on vax breakthrough cases. But worse than not looking at the numbers, though, the CDC installed a policy, again back in April when the breakthroughs were rising, to test the vaccinated public with the sensitivity(cycle threshold) on the PCR scaled down to 28, while maintaining the elevated sensitivity on unvaccinated people to 35-40. So all comparisons between vaccinated and unvaccinated is quite apples and egg shells. I have said this before, these are not stupid people, so when they do something that is so very clearly a foolish thing as these, we should look closer.

    On Dec. 10 2020, one month after the election theft, while everyone was looking to see what Trump would do to save the future from the Communist junta, the Trusted News Initiative was launched to complete the censorship that was begun in the summer of 2020. This was a media-wide global silencing of anything that discussed the coming, back then, vax in anything but the most glorious light. No worries would be published. No harmful side effects would be published. No vax breakthroughs would be published. This is not because they didn’t exist. It was because govt had decided the vax were good, and a Noble Lie would be in the public’s interest. This is why the article you wrote was allowed to be portrayed to the masses as the vax will save you, even as they knew in July the vax was failing with increasing severity since Feb, just shortly after the vax program began. We are now entering the winter months, while using a failed test, a failing vax and new mandates. This self-created debacle could become very costly.

    You should read on the Trusted News Initiative. A quick search will show you a mountain of info on this world-wide censorship program that has left us very much in the dark on a number of matters.

  24. 99% of COVID deaths are now of unvaccinated people, experts say

    With the delta variant running rampant in the US, COVID cases are on the rise in what is now a “pandemic of the unvaccinated,” the CDC says

    COVID cases, hospitalizations and deaths are rising again as the extremely contagious delta variant of the coronavirus takes hold as the dominant strain in the US. In some parts of the country, there are more hospitalizations and cases of COVID than there were last winter, the peak of the pandemic.

    The vast majority of people being hospitalized with COVID and dying from the disease haven’t been fully vaccinated, according to public health officials. More than 97% of hospitalizations from COVID right now are of unvaccinated people, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention, said at a press briefing Friday, adding: “There is a clear message that is coming through: This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated.” In early July, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the president’s chief medical advisor, told CBS that 99.2% of COVID deaths are now of unvaccinated people.

    https://www.cnet.com/health/99-of-covid-deaths-are-now-of-unvaccinated-people-experts-say/