TRUE OF FALSE? You decide whether students should be vaccinated.

This video shows a Dr. Dan Stock, a family doctor from a community in Indiana named Mount Vernon, speaking to the local School Board at a public hearing, speaking in opposition to the board’s proposed mask and vaccination requirements for students.

Israel’s Health Minister is pushing to do so.

August 11, 2021 | 36 Comments »

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  1. @adamdalgliesh

    They compared children born before January 2019 and those born after July 2020, so that most of the mothers of the latter cohort of infants likely wore masks for at least their 3rd trimester.

    They didn’t mention anything about the effects of mask wearing by the mother on the fetus at all in the study (my opinion).

    They don’t know whether the decrease in abilities is permanent or temporary.

    Included pregnant individuals and children reported no symptoms of SARS-CoV-2 infection or had evidence of positive antibody or RT-PCR testing. Families also reported having adhered to stay-at-home and on-going mask and social distancing policies, suggesting observed effects are environmentally driven rather than due to potential direct effects of infection.
    …While socioeconomic factors appear to mitigate against the negative consequences of the pandemic, the primary factors underlying our observed trends remain unknown.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.10.21261846v1.full

  2. @Adam

    Sorry, Adam, it has been a couple of days – I feel foolish for discussing the term without having redefined it first. ADE is Antibody-Dependent-Enhancement. You had requested I translate an article you posted about 10 comments below this one. The article you posted is here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7943455/
    It is quite technical, and from this past Feb, but it left out a couple of things I added, and discussed more detail than I felt could easily be described without a great deal more description of the immune system. Broadly the antibodies serve to protect an infecting virus from being stopped by the immune system – a very bad outcome, indeed. So this ADE-partial immunity actually results in high antibody levels and much more severe disease. The coronavirus vaccines have proven to be quite lethal over the years, with most not making it out of research studies and those that did were mostly in veterinary vaccines where the outcome was quite tragic for the many cats and ferrets that died as a result. ADE is highly associated with coronavirus vaccines. As I noted, ADE was also seen to be too likely an outcome to allow vaccines developed against SARS1 and MERS – and it is irrelevent to the vaccine type, ie, it is not related to the mRNA vaccine or adenovirus vaccines. Very concerning things, and the current vaccines have, as I noted, not been shown to develop ADE, but there are some signs that are consistent with ADE that have presented in the Israel data, so we will see how this all turns out towards the end of the year. Since we have no preclinical (animal) studies and the clinical(human) trials were conducted with no elderly(high risk) subjects in the studies, and the safety trials were ended prematurely, we really no choice but to wait and see the outcome as things develop, unfortunately.

    I am very glad that you are able to follow my descriptions on these topics. It is hard sometimes to judge when I have explained too much or too little. This one on ADE was a bit challenging to describe without discussing further details of the immune system, so I am glad you were able to follow it. Let me know if you or anyone has questions on these types of topics. Such matters have always been important, but never so relevant to the masses as they are today, I think.

  3. @adamdalgliesh

    In infants, overall cognitive scores are significantly lower

    I am wondering how much it may have to do with pregnant women wearing masks which increases the concentration of CO2 and the viral load in the mother’s body.

    I expected these or similar results from the time they decreed the wearing of the masks but there were no warnings about this anywhere.

    This is incredibly tragic, especially that these result will now be used to force pregnant women get vaccinated.

  4. From today’s Jerusalem Post. Oy Vay!

    COVID-19 pandemic causing babies to develop differently – study
    In infants, overall cognitive scores are significantly lower since the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic with young infants showing lower performance than infants born before January 2019.
    By EVE YOUNG AUGUST 14, 2021 19:09 Email Twitter Facebook fb-messenger

  5. Peloni–thanks for this massive crash course in immunology and food science! I think I understand at least the jist of what you have writtenmost of what you have written to us about these subjects. You did a fantastic job of simplifying these subjects and describing them in non-specialist language so that even I can understand the basics.

    One question that I do have is, could you remind me what ADE is. You once explained it to me, but I have already forgot.

    There is much more I wish to say, but it is late here in the Mid-Delaware Valley and I need to get some sleep. Thanks again.

  6. @Adam

    Let me know if anything is unclear. It is a more advanced topic than other we have discussed, so I tried to keep it pretty basic, but that may make things less clear. If you need a more detailed explanation, let me know.

    To prove the presence of ADE is a very difficult task, but Malone estimates that by Dec, we may have a better indication if this unfortunate turn of events is likely to unfold
    /2.

  7. @Adam

    So, ADE. ADE was known to be part of the disease process of SARS1 and MERS. It was also the reason that no vaccine was created to counter both SARS1(~2003) and Mers(~2012) and it was due to the 3dimensional shape of the viruses. It was also known that SARS1 and MERS were each very closely related, evolutionally, to COVID19 – recall that people infected by SARS1 have protective antibodies against COVID. Hence, a strong suspicion was held that a vaccine for COVID could result in the same phenomena, or it could not easily be dismissed at a minimum.

    ADE is a pretty advanced topic in immunology, so I will keep it simple, but you have to understand the basic broad parts of the Adaptive (or Specific)Immune System that specifically respond to invading viruses, and bacteria. The body has two mechanisms by which the Immune Systems responds or adapts specifically to each viral invasion of the body. One mechanism alerts Cell-Mediated-Immunity via T-Cells and the other stimulates Antibody Production via B-cells. T-Cells work by destroying infected cells by releasing damaging chemicals that cause the infected cells to perforate/explode, or by signalling the cells to self-destruct. B-Cells create antibodies that coat the invader or infected cells. Once the antibodies are attached to its subject, they stimulate White Blood Cells to swallow and destroy the viruses[very very simplified model of the immune system, but this will be enough to explain ADE to make the broad relevant points understood].

    ADE is only associated with the B-Cell/antibody part of the Adaptive-Immune-System, which will be relavant later. There are multiple ways in which ADE occurs due to complications/interaction between the antibodies on the virus and the WBC that were signaled to destroy the virus. Broadly, antibodies create an advanced disease state due to the WBCs either protecting the virus from destruction, or, worse, protecting it and carrying the virus to very remote areas of the body that the virus could not otherwise access without the use of the WBCs. ADE being a concerning complication in both MERS and SARS1 is why no successful vaccine was ever allowed to be developed, because they might promote the development of ADE. It is also conjectured that the level of disease presentation(mild vs severe) is related to the degree to which the virus(SARS, MERS or COVID) begins to undergo ADE – mild disease due to no ADE whereas severe disease will develop with the expression of ADE. All of these concerns were known to the Pharma in the Spring 2020, when the limited testing was being setup. By fall 2020 when the drug trials were being conducted, it was determined not to collect any data to ruleout if ADE development was enhanced by the use of these COVID vaccines, despite the fact ADE was closely associated with both SARS and MERS.

    Dr. Malone(inventor of mRNA), in his first interview(Dark Horse podcast), noted that it would have been better if the vaccines had focused on the Cell-Mediated pathway(T-cells) rather than the Antibody-Producing pathway(B-cells) of immune stimulation. The final point I would offer, related to ADE, is the importance of early or prophylactic treatment on preventing ADE. The use of early treatment/prophylaxis will prevent the development of ADE/severe disease while allowing the body to develop the broad immune response that is very protective – the very desire of the vaccine program without the side effects.

    It should be strictly noted that it is not currently known if ADE will be shown to be develop with the COVID vaccines, but it remains as a definite possibility.
    /1

  8. @Adam

    I agree 100%! The idea of quarantines is a medieval practice from the dark ages, where dark practices were utilized to save people from evil spirits and mental terrors that they could not comprehend or remedy, so they walled them off – sort of a Cask of Amontillado solution to the problems of those on the outside of the walls. Of course, quarantines do have a basis in the modern world to contain an elevated health outbreak in a known area to separate out those who are affected from those who are healthy, while treatments are secured, or just to prevent further spread. Such uses are practiced, with some success, in Africa against Ebola, for instance – it is often referred to as containment. But once the outbreak has escaped containment and is pretty much everywhere at the same time, what is the purpose of such nonsense.

    The greatest indicator of survival against the SARS-Cov2 has been long known to be for a patient to have elevated levels of Vitamin D, which is produced in the body by exposure to sunlight. Some people have genetic or disease issues where there Vitamin D levels will be low in spite of sunlight exposures, so supplementation can be used to get around these conditions or being dragged and shackled indoors without sunlight exposures as mandated by some govts.

    Recently, in the past month, there has been a development regarding lipid production that show low levels of Sphingosine lipids help predict those who will be most at risk of developing severe disease – low Sphingosine was found in 94% of people with severe disease. The obvious next question is of course, what is Sphingosine? Sphingosine is a fat compound that is produced by blood cells, platelets and the cells along the blood vessels. It is vital to cell membrane stability, intercellular communication and biochemical responses to many diseases.

    One other thing that helps predict disease severity is the cholesterol and triglyceride levels. There are 3 types of cholesterol, but for simplicity, let’s just consider the cholesterol group routinely called good cholesterols(HDL). Having low levels of HDLs and high levels of triglycerides, which usually occur together as they are biochemically related, result in having more severe Covid disease symptoms. This is usually associated with fried foods, and low exercise – another reason not to be kept cooped up in solitary confinement in your own home for weeks or months on end. HDL and triglycerides as well as Vitamin D can be measured by a cheaply priced routine blood test, but Sphingosine is rarely tested outside of research studies and is an expensive and slow testing process, but that might change with the recent discovery.

    So, ignore the quarantine orders, go to the beach, enjoy the sun and exercise a lot. The vaccines won’t save you, even if they don’t kill you, and the govts seem very decided not to allow treatments. But nature has her own defenses to help you, if you prepare the ‘terrain'(body) as Louis Pasteur referenced on his death bed, you could still survive this China Plague. These are my views, though many who ‘follow the science’, where the word science is an Alinsky psuedonym for govt propaganda, will likely disagree.

  9. I made this this clipping from WHO’s official site. It shows that there has been only one case of Marburg disease in the u.S., in 2008. The patient had returned from a visit to Uganda, where he was exploring caves where fruit-bats live. He made a full recovery in the hospital.

    The table of cases reveals that Marburg has been mainly a problem a problem in Africa, where there have been several hundred cases, many of them fatal, over the past 53 years. However, there have also been 33 cases in Western countries, including 8 fatalities.

    Table: Chronology of major Marburg virus disease outbreaks

    Year Country Cases Deaths Case fatality Rate
    2017 Uganda 3 3 100%
    2014 Uganda 1 1 100%
    2012 Uganda 15 4 27%
    2008 Netherland (ex-Uganda) 1 1 100%
    2008 United States of America (ex-Uganda) 1 0 0%
    2007 Uganda 4 2 50%
    2005 Angola 374 329 88%
    1998 to 2000 Democratic Republic of the Congo 154 128 83%
    1987 Kenya 1 1 100%
    1980 Kenya 2 1 50%
    1975 South Africa 3 1 33%
    1967 Yugoslavia 2 0 0%
    1967 Germany 29 7 24%

    It is interesting that the WHO only took notice of the disease when there was a fairly severe outbreak in a Western country, Germany, in 1967 (29 cases and 7 deaths). For all we know, the disease may have existed in Africa for thousands of years.

  10. Peloni, thanks once again for your excellent explanations of the matters that I had asked you about. Although medical bureaucracies have been behaving as if they know everything about how to prevent cv2-19, it is clear they don/t.

    I have been maintaining all along that exposure to fresh air and sunshine is the best prophylaxis against this disease as well as all respiratory diseases. They can even increase the likelood of healing, or speed it up, if the sufferer is ambulatory and able to take even short walks outside.

    Forbidding people from going to the beaches, as they did in California, strikes me as sheer madness. Beaches are among the best places to be exposed to both fresh air and sunlight. And solar radiation kills the disease. Of course it necessary to avoid overexposure to the son’s UV rays.

    That is just my opinion. Do you agree with me about this?

  11. @Adam

    That is a good point about Stock’s rural perspective. I did notice he was dressed in, shall we say, farm apparel. The animal reservoir info has been well known for a very long time. In April 2020, I believe, a woman in Hong Kong gave it to her dog, in the northern US(NY maybe) animals in a zoo contracted it and of course the Chinese killing every animal they could find in early 2020 was evidence of their convictions on this topic.

    As to the bird and rats being involved with the spread, it is a very good question. China noted bamboo rats as an animal reservoir early in their outbreaks and rats are used in animal studies to test treatments such as IVM, so the potential definitely exists. With the movement of rats to the abandoned city centers around the world, this was a great concern how things would change when people went back to work – rats carry much more concerning diseases than SARS-Cov2. Rats have also been found to test positive around the world over the past year and a half, but so did a glass of tap water, ie the high false positive testing obscures the certainty of every answer. In any case, it should be accepted that rats can act as a reservoir of the disease, I believe, though it has not been demonstrated as such to my knowledge.

    Birds have a very different physiology. All viruses are species specific, but birds and pigs help viruses jump by creating mutations to be able to infect new species. I have not read of birds being involved in the covid outbreak, but even if it was, this would not make the virus air borne. The pigeon/bird contamination would be thru their excrement that once dried could be picked up in a breeze, like histoplasmosis, but the problem with this is that SARS-Cov2 breaks down when it dries up. It is a very fragile virus. It can not long survive in sunlight or without some moisture to maintain the viral envelope. I believe that it was demonstrated to breakdown in temperatures over 75degrees but this is very specifically a function of both temperature and humidity(more humidity really). As to the airborne issue, it is complicated by an acceptable definition of the term airborne, so let’s side step that discussion and note that SARS-Cov2 is airborne only to the point that it travels on particles ejected from infected people, and this is compounded when indoors, as central air conditioning can maintain the virus in the air for some time, away from the sun and in a less desicating environment than found outdoors. As a side note, this point of the impact of central air is the reason why lockdowns are counter to any benefit claimed by force isolation, while also limiting vitamin D productions in people.

    As far as the Pelota renaming, I have to confess that I have been called far worse, Lol..just don’t let it call me Pelosi 🙂

    I will have to delay on the ADE discussion as I am being drafted as substitute nanny for a family member, but I will post it on this page either later today or tomorrow. It is a difficult topic to both discuss and contemplate. The consequences could be quite dire.

  12. Peloni– I was apparently wrong about there being cases of Marburg disease in the U.S. this year. I think what I saw on the web was a reference to four cases of Marburg in the U.S. in a previous year.

    However, there are articles on the web from organizations concerned with “biodefense” that are concerned that the U.S. does not have adequate plans in place to deal with a possible Marburg outbreak.

    It is troubling that the president’s press secretary, Jan Psaki , had not even heard of Marburg disease when asked about it at a press conference a few days ago. Here is a clip from the White House site:

    And on Guinea: Is the White House doing anything to support Guinea to contain the Marburg virus disease that was identified there?

    MS. PSAKI: Is it a strain of the coronavirus?

    Q No, it’s a strain of the — it is in the same family with the Ebola virus.

    MS. PSAKI: Ah. I will — I’m happy to check with our team and see if there’s any specific updates. The State Department might be the best entity to speak to that.

  13. It should be pointed out that Dr. Stock was addressing a school board in a rural community in Indiana. Such communities typically have lots of farm animals (cows, sheep, goats, horses, pigs, etc) as well as wild animals of all sorts. This may have influenced his opinion that animal resevoirs exist for the virus.

    It also should be pointed out that even in urban areas, there are lots of rodents and birds (especially pigeons). It would be interesting to know if they can transmit the virus, possibly through the air.

  14. Peloni, the URL for this article is https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7943455/.

    I apologize that for my Apple Mac computer word-processing program calling you ‘pelota’ instead of your name. It always calls you ‘pelota” unless I am careful to correct it. Outrageoous that computers have these built-in programs that “complete” words you are typing with words you never intended to write.

  15. The following articles might shed some light on the question of ADE risk for cv2-19. Pelota, could you please read these articles and “translate” them for us ignorant laymen?

    Review Nat Microbiol
    . 2020 Oct;5(10):1185-1191. doi: 10.1038/s41564-020-00789-5. Epub 2020 Sep 9.
    Antibody-dependent enhancement and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies

    Wen Shi Lee 1 , Adam K Wheatley 1 2 , Stephen J Kent 3 4 5 , Brandon J DeKosky 6 7 8
    Affiliations expand
    PMID: 32908214 DOI: 10.1038/s41564-020-00789-5
    Abstract

    Antibody-based drugs and vaccines against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) are being expedited through preclinical and clinical development. Data from the study of SARS-CoV and other respiratory viruses suggest that anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies could exacerbate COVID-19 through antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). Previous respiratory syncytial virus and dengue virus vaccine studies revealed human clinical safety risks related to ADE, resulting in failed vaccine trials. Here, we describe key ADE mechanisms and discuss mitigation strategies for SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies in development. We also outline recently published data to evaluate the risks and opportunities for antibody-based protection against SARS-CoV-2.

    Similar articles

    A perspective on potential antibody-dependent enhancement of SARS-CoV-2.
    Arvin AM, Fink K, Schmid MA, Cathcart A, Spreafico R, Havenar-Daughton C, Lanzavecchia A, Corti D, Virgin HW.
    Nature. 2020 Aug;584(7821):353-363. doi: 10.1038/s41586-020-2538-8. Epub 2020 Jul 13.
    PMID: 32659783

  16. @Edgar

    Yes, I believe the pigs are likely the wild reservoir for the virus, though as you say it is not certain. Pigs are very susceptible carriers to a lot of viruses that affect humans – in the US, the tight security around pig farms is very similar to that at the CDC, special protocols for everyone entering and leaving the facility including full change of clothes and showering….

    Another point suggest that China believes the pigs were the wild reservoir. China culled an enormous part of their pig stock in the fall of 2019, which was coincident with the timing of the date of the lab leak. The killed so many of their own pigs(over 25% as I recall) that it actually diminished the world’s pig population and cause pork prices to rise last year – as you referenced, China produces and consumes most of the world’s pork. They claimed it was to rid the flocks of African Swine Fever which they were struggling with earlier in the year, and perhaps this is true, but the timing and degree of pig culling was very extreme. It is also believed that the wild pigs of China are the source by which SARS-Cov2 was transmitted to North Korea – a theory that supports the pig reservoir theory, really a very circular argument though. It should be noted that SARS-Cov2 is currently back in China and the Chinese are currently back to culling their pigs again. Of course, they say that it is once more due to African Swine Flu, but at some point, you just have to accept that nothing China says to the world is easily accepted as bearing any truth.

  17. There is an answering post to Reader re muscles floating around somewhere. I saw it printed but now has vanished. It is likely where they all end up before retrieval.

  18. PELONI….concerning your post on how the Chinese Govt were killing of their own infected people… and then you seqgued into discussing susceptible animals.

    Many authorities say that the pig is a likely agent for COVID 19. but again there are others who say they are not. No animal is as popuar in Chin as the pig. Even with their “exotic” tastes, the pig comes #1 by a large margin.

  19. @Reader

    But they used a “vaccine” which forcibly introduced (by replicating it) billions of copies of spike protein (dr. Zelenko said “trillions”) into each vaccinated body!

    Yes, this is true. Some like to note that they could not know that the spike was the lethal part of this virus. However, I, like you, have serious doubts if this is possibly true. They worked with the spike protein for years before 2020(4 yrs I think) and they held patents on a piecemeal assembly set of alterations that taken together produce the virus to which they held their vaccine prototype going back 20 yrs. So I agree with you, though I would like to have someone ask these culprits about these things.

    So your point here is well established, I think, but the point I was specifically noting was that a prophylaxis vaccine could be very effective. A point I failed to note, as it was beyond my topic at the time, is that vaccines are like taking a butchers cleaver to conduct vascular surgery(very delicate cuts are needed). If you are not perfectly precise in the development, very bad things, very nonreversible things, can take place. So, medical prophylaxis really was always a better choice. Now it really is the only choice, even as it is the only choice not employed.

  20. @Reader

    When Marburg first surfaced, it was feared that it would have a death rate similar to Ebola, its cousin, which had a death rate of about 100%(90-100). In 1967 though, Marburg was soon to be seen to have a death rate of only about 25%. Over the years, it resurfaced here and there, and the death rate varied high and low. Since 2000, it has surfaced about 7 times and most of these there were very few cases, between 1 and 15. There were only two times the number of cases rose over 100. In each of these two outbreaks, the death rate was 85% and 93% respectively. It was very concerning. But the total case numbers were only about 250-300 in total, so it was manageable. Ebola is very scary and very lethal, Marburg a bit less lethal but just as scary really, but in truth, as outbreaks go, the symptoms are very identifiable(as opposed to SARS-Cov2) and the outbreaks are manageable as the quick death rate is self limiting. Should it mutate and become airborne(a Fauci favorite tale) this would be unmanageable. As things stand, the public fear and resulting hysteria would likely be the greatest complication to contain the outbreak. Really all things considered, as outbreaks go, HIV was much more complicated to contain than Ebola/Marburg. It was a subtle disease with no early markers, no one knew they had it and the disease could spread across a large group of people who were sexually active or shared needles while trying to quarantine the outbreak.

  21. @Edgar

    what would I do with muscle anyway these days

    Muscles are crucial for the elderly.

    Try to get them back.

  22. @peloni

    a vaccine prophylaxis program was important, to prevent the disease from taking hold at all. The virus would still be encountered, but the early stage where billions of copies of the virus and spike are reproduced would be avoided.

    But they used a “vaccine” which forcibly introduced (by replicating it) billions of copies of spike protein (dr. Zelenko said “trillions”) into each vaccinated body!

  23. @stevenl
    The point of the animal reservoir is what kept the virus going in China. It is strongly suspected that in the Fall of 2019 when the virus was first leaked from the Wuhan lab(one way or another) the Chinese killed the infected citizens to contain the outbreak, but their efforts failed, they believe, because it was contained in the animal population – as we are all well aware now, the Chinese are more exotic in their animal dishes than Western nations. This is why they murdered all the animals in Wuhan early last year after the outbreak broke out again – in hopes of eliminating the animal reservoir. It is well known that the virus is very well situated to infect ferrets. Other animals are less suitable subjects, but it can infect dogs, cats, monkeys, deer and other livestock. It is not easily passed to dogs, and it was found only possible with close care contact between an infected human and a close companion animal – lots of facial licking and such while the human is symptomatic with live virus particles in the mouth, nose and sputim or nasal discharge. To my knowledge, it has never been demonstrated that the virus can infect humans from the animal reservoir, but it must be assumed as a possibility. Also, there is now another outbreak in China again, so is the source the wild animal reservoir or some traveling human…?

    Dr. Stock’s commentary about ADE, which has always been a great fear about the virus, has not been proven to currently be known to exist. It is consistent with the early die off of protective antibodies and also with the breakthrough cases, but neither of these prove the presence of ADE. It is, of course, quite true that ADE is quite difficult to substantiate(no D-Dimer test for this). It is one of those things that researchers are always vigilent to detect any evidence and just hope to never to find any. Well, there is possible support, but that is not proof. It does sound something of a broken record, but this is among the details that is studied in clinical trials and it was considered in last years studies, but the data was ultimately not collected. So, we will know more, probably towards the end of the year if ADE is actually present. If it is present, that would be very very bad, so as I say, let us hope we don’t find that it is present. In any case, it is not known at this time. ADE is actually another reason why medical prophylaxis would be wise to pursue over the continued vaccine program.

  24. @Adam
    This is a very concerning development. Marburg is well known to have variable lethality, as opposed to Ebola, with fatality rates between 25% and 85%, though as the article states, in the last 20 years it has presented with the higher fatality rate. Good news is that there is not yet an experimental vaccine for Marburg, but perhaps they can produce one by next week(forgive the sarcasm). Oh, and Remdisivir is just as useless for Marburg as it is for SARS-Cov2. The other report of the 4 deaths in the US, is it a substantial source do you know?

    On another note, Marburg was among the warnings that Dr. McGreevey had warned about several months ago(about Feb I think) that would be “discovered” in the US amid the viral outbreak after the vaccine had been extensively administered. As I say, I never took him as a fortune teller, but he did have uncanny warnings that were more than chance. Let us hope this does not develop further and McGreevey was quite wrong this time.

  25. MARBURG VIRUS…… I think I heard of this over 50 years ago. I recall that these outbreaks were always in some benighted place in Africa, never close to home. Now they’re here.

    Just today, I found that my isolation has caused a loss of 12 lbs, all muscle.
    Well, no matter…what would I do with muscle anyway these days….flex at the beach…???

    The word Marburg always, don’t know why, reminds me of a horror film I saw as a kid “Frankenstein”.. with Boris Karloff playing the Monster. The scene where the mention of the policeman who had his whole arm torn off from the shoulder, used to linger with me… a long time ago.

  26. According to another source, 4 people in the United States have already died of the Marburg virus. No one knows how or from whom they contracted it. Now, from the people who brought you cv2-19, is new, improved . . .

    The reality is that lockdowns, compulsory vaccination campaign
    will become permanent aspects of all our lives over the next twenty years. Some of the “pandemics”will be hyped as I thing cv2-19 has been. But some will be only too real. The medical-bureaucratic establishments and the drug companies who largely control them will see to it that pre-2020 “normal” life never returns.

  27. Here we go again… WHO announces the ‘Marburg Virus’
    If you’ve been wondering what the next phase of this public health insanity is going to look like, your wait is over.

    Introducing… the MARBURG VIRUS.

    Earlier this week, as police fanned out across the streets of Paris going table-to-table in cafes to check people’s Covid papers, and as the Australian military deployed to the streets of Sydney to enforce extended lockdowns, the World Health Organization announced a brand new outbreak of the “Marburg Virus” in West Africa.

    Marburg is yet another highly infectious virus, and one that the WHO has classified as the highest level biological threat– “Risk Group 4”.

    (By comparison, SARS-Cov-2 is a lower, “Risk Group 3” biological agent.)

    Marburg comes from the same virus family as Ebola. And, while Covid-1984 has a roughly 1.7% fatality rate according to CDC data, the limited data from the past 20 years of Marburg cases shows a fatality rate of 85%.

    One person died from the Marburg virus in Guinea last week, and authorities there estimate that 145 people may have been in contact with him and potentially exposed to the virus.

    Here we go again…

    Public health policy is starting to look like a never-ending Mobius Strip– where we just go around an endless loop repeating the same things over and over again.

    Judging by harsh lockdowns, mask mandates, and police enforcement around the world due to the Delta variant, it looks like it’s April 2020 all over again.

    Even places that had some of the most extreme public health protocols, like Australia, have found themselves completely hapless in trying to combat Covid.

    Surprise, surprise. It turns out that you can’t wait out a virus. You can’t legislate it away. You can’t make it go away with endless money printing and fiscal stimulus.

    Human beings have had to content with influenza for at least eight thousand years. No public health official has ever been able to eradicate it.

    In fact the only virus that has ever been officially eradicated (according to the World Health Organization) among the human population is smallpox. But even that’s not actually true because smallpox is still used by terrorists and dictators as a biological weapon.

    But that hasn’t stopped public health officials from waging an endless crusade to play whack-a-mole with Covid.

    They have seized unconstitutional, dictatorial powers to control nearly every aspect of our lives. Stay home. Wear three masks. Shun human contact. No sex. Take this injection. Face the wall in elevators. Avoid speaking. Don’t ask questions. Obey.

    It’s also completely obvious these public health overlords lack any objectivity.

    There is almost zero discussion about natural immunity for people who already had Covid. Similarly, there’s very little attention given to the extensive research about treatment options for Covid.

    There are mountains of data, for example, across dozens of randomized control trials and peer-reviewed studies involving tens of thousands of patients, demonstrating that the drug Ivermectin is associated with a profoundly superior outcome for Covid-19 patients.

    This isn’t some wild conspiracy theory. Here’s one study, for example, on the US government’s National Institutes of Health website.

    But that’s never part of the discussion. In fact the Big Tech companies are standing by ready to squash any conversation about treatment.

    Twitter, for example, blocked the sharing of a medical study published late last year in the respected European Journal of Medical & Health Sciences because it had positive conclusions about Ivermectin.

    Ironically, these public health overlords claim to care so much about people who might potentially fall ill and die.

    So wouldn’t it make sense for them to disseminate objective information about medications and treatment options? After all, isn’t it possible that access to information about treatment might have saved some lives?

    But talking about medication and treatment doesn’t fit the narrative that these vaccine-brained public health officials are pushing. If you’re not talking about getting an injection, then you’re not allowed to talk. Period.

    Delta is now raging, and they’re already talking about the evil new ‘Lambda’ variant. And now, perhaps, the WHO may be starting to prime us for a new round of public health terrorism with the Marburg Virus.

    So if you thought the pandemic was over and everything was going back to normal… then I applaud your optimism. But think again.

    Given the public health response to the Delta variant, plus these new pathogenic threats that may be coming, it’s possible that there may be a new wave of lockdowns, travel restrictions, school closures, mask mandates, and more.

    Obviously I have no crystal ball, and am in no way trying to be alarmist. But it’s worth considering– if governments begin to impose quarantines once again, where would you want to be?

    Last year Covid took most people by surprise. But if it happens again, this time around we have the benefit of experience. We know their playbook and how they’re going to react.

    So it certainly makes sense to think about lockdowns, quarantines, and overall public health insanity when considering your Plan B options.

  28. The Covid disease creates many harmful situations that results in significant extended disease states, the consequences of which may lay unnoticed or unexpressed for a period of time, even if the patient leaves the hospital in a state of improved health. Many of these patients will return to the hospital within about 5 month with followup complaints related to the treatments or the disease. This is why a vaccine prophylaxis program was important, to prevent the disease from taking hold at all. The virus would still be encountered, but the early stage where billions of copies of the virus and spike are reproduced would be avoided. This, however, has nothing to do with treatment. When people do become ill, you should treat them, and at as early a stage as possible. So they rushed a vaccine that they had no confidence in proving efficacy or safety(the only reason possible for them to have undermined their own studies with such deliberate actions) and the vaccine is now failing to provide the prevention that it was intended to produce.

    There is also another way, beyond vaccines to prevent the disease from being established in the body. It is called medical prophylaxis. This requires a drug or drugs be administered at low levels on a daily or weekly basis. These drugs can be interpreted(for simplicity) to act as a toxin to the virus. It does not prevent exposure, but it limits the exposure so that a person will develop immunity without any vaccines. This has been proven to be effective in studies conducted by Dr. McCullough and others. But it has also been proven to work in the real world environment, outside of studies or drug trials. What occurred in India was shocking, to even the greatest proponents of treatment. Some might conjecture that you can’t isolate that the medical prophylaxis was the cause of the rapid drop in cases in India, but the studies to support this conclusion were actually already done. We just need to accept that the vaccine prophylaxis is not stopping the infections from spreading and use the medical prophylaxis.

    The issues with the spike protein in the brain and other organs are likely to have life limiting consequences – blood clots, prion disease, vascular issues, cardiac issues, etc. Once the virus spreads throughout the body, these concerning side effects that may unfold over time can not be undone. We should treat, treat early and use medical prophylaxis. It is tantamount to medieval witchcraft to pursue any other strategy at this point.

  29. The link to where I found the video is https://twitter.com/search?q=Dr.%20Dan%20Stock%20Delivers&src=typeahead_click.

    Google has post a rebuttal column from one of its sycophant “fact-checkers” that makes a highly ineffectual effort to discredit Dr. Stock’s “viral video”—without even mentioning him by name. Reading the ineffectual and poorly reasoned rebuttal piece made me determined to find the video, after I couldn’t get it to play on Israpundit.

  30. This video shows a Dr. Dan Stock, a family doctor from a community in Indiana named Mount Vernon, speaking to the local School Board at a public hearing, speaking in opposition to the board’s proposed mask and vaccination requirements for students.

    Dr. Stock, although he is “only” a family practitioner, is easily the most articulate and learned of any of the physicians I have heard who opposes the lockdowns, mass requirement, and vaccination campaign. He explains very lucidly why it is not possible to eliminate covid entirely, why treatment with a “cocktail” of ivermectin, vitamin D and zinc is highly effective in treating the illness (he says that of the 15 cv 2-19 patients that he has treated in his clinic, 13 recovered completely within a few days), how the vaccines are increasingly ineffective and are even leading to the increased spread of th illness. Some highly relevant medical facts in his presentation were completely new to me.

    This video has been removed from YouTube on grounds that it “violates community standards.” not that it contains anything obscene or offensive, but because the speaker, Dr. Dan Stock, disagrees with CDC guidelines and policies concerning the cv2-19 pandemic. Disagreeing with government agencies now “violates community standards.”

    The video was still available, the last time I checked, on Twitter. But I recommend that everyone watch it as soon as possible before Twitter removes it too.