@ Bear Klein:
It will be interesting. Mainstream media is making Rudi Gulliani out to be a kook or ignoring him. M
This would be the same media which paraded around crooked, slimy kook porn lawyer Michael Avenati. They treated him with respect and took his claims against Trump seriously. The double standard of the media is staggering.
Who the hell are these reprobates in the media To determine what we can’t see and hear and then to declare Rudy’s remarks “falsehoods”? Their job is to simply provide us information and then let us determine whether the allegations are credible. They aren’t supposed to treat us like subjects or children and be TOLD what to believe. There is infinitely more evidence of voter fraud than there ever was of Russia collusion, yet the former is labeled a conspiracy theory while the latter is treated as truth. The same with Hunter Biden’s laptop which was physical evidence but we were told was merely a conspiracy theory. We are being gaslighted by a thoroughly corrupt, lying media on a par with pravda. After they get through with the tech tyrants, they need to haul in these executives from the “news” networks before the Senate.
“I do have a strategy in mind that might just work to get Trump reelected…”
I recall an episone of “Sharpe’s rifles”, in which a young earl, aspiring for honor and advancement, volunteered for the “Forlorn Hope” detachment to storm a fortress. As he and his men set off to face the cannonade, he told Sharpe,
“I believe I have a plan”.
He got killed by the first volley, as everyone expected. There are many plans in the air during the present crisis, the majority of which are likely to go no further than the young earl’s. God holds the master plan, and all the details. I’m just awaiting orders.
Yes he did. He and Powell seemed to think it was very important to their cases.
@ Edgar G.:
He introduces Sydney Powell who discusses Dominion at length at 37:50.
@ Edgar G.:
Didn’t Giuliani discuss Dominion and at least one other in his press conference and say that it was under active investigation? I don’t feel like listening to the whole thing all over again but that’s what I seem to recall.
ADAM- You may have overlooked the fact that the “state authorities” that you give such power to are all, or nearly all, strongly Republican. And they way I understand it (although I may be wrong) is, that the validations of the results only be signed-off by those legislatures, to the Electors that they appoint.
It is the legislatures which make the laws, not the Governors nor Attorney’s-General. I’m sure you know this, and I mention it just in case you have overlooked it.
I believe that the actual results, as decided by the Supreme Court, may be nailed down, on the evidence of the phony Dominion machines, and the deliberately mal-adjusted software. It has been confirmed that in certain important districts, hundreds of thousands of votes were automatically scored for Biden only, within the space of 2-3 seconds, an impossibility except for computer manufactured figures.. There were others noted, where a certain large number of votes were credited to Biden, and the observers also saw that Trump’s figures reduced the identical amount, at exactly that moment.
I believe that this is the sort of evidence that Giuliani and the others were talking about which they were not disclosing . Much of this evidence was winkled out by very talented bloggers-experts really, of which there are thousands scouring ever single vote in every state, county and district.
It’s becoming very absorbing, like an old fashioned serial movie.
I don’t believe for a moment that there would be an armed insurrection. The Dems would, know that their frauds had been detected and remedied, and at most, there would be riots similar to those which have already taken place.
The republicans won’t have a majority in both houses, unless voter fraud for those places are also detected.
If the Republicans can go into the new session of Congress with small majorities in both Houses, they may be able to reject the official state returns in the contested states and instead accept the rival Republican electors.
And this, in your opinion, would be less likely to provoke civil insurrection than court decisions recognizing the indisputable proof of widespread organized fraud.
I believe that the evidence of election fraud is overwhelming. However, I don’t think that anyone will order the kind of recount that might reveal who received the most legal and genuine votes in the contested states, and how many fake votes were added to the count. In most of the contested states, the state judges and even the Federal judges are Democratic judges are Democratic Party appointees. Several of the Federal judges are Obama appointees. But even when they are Republicans, they will be unwilling to interfere in the election, or overturn the election counts by the authorities charged with counting the votes by state law. Judges are terrified of appearing to be meddling in elections and overturning “the wil of the people.” True, the Republican majority on the Supreme Court in 2000 stopped the recount in two counties of Florida. But they did so only by affirming the official vote count of the Florida state election authorities. Even so, the Supreme Court’s intevention was by a narrow 5-4 margin, and two of the dissenting judges (both Republicans) accused their colleagues, including Chied Justice Renquist, of undermining democracy and causing the American people to “lose.” It was one of the bitterest dissents in the history of the Supreme Court.
In the present situation, the Court would have to overturn the official returns, not affirm them. And it would have to overturn them not in one state, but at least five, and not in two counties but somewhere around ten. The courts, from the lower courts all the way up to the Supreme Court, are unlikely to intervene forcefully enough to reverse the election results, because they will fear to be seen as overturning “the will of the people.” They also know that if they award the election to Trump after the state authorities have awarded it to Biden, the “left” would stage a massive armed insurrection and start a civil war. So the courts won’t go there.
I do have a strategy in mind that might just work to get Trump reelected. That would be to prevent the Democrats from stealing the run-off elections for the Senate in Georgia, and working to reverse the election of a small number of House seats scattered accross the country. The courts are less inhibited about overturning Congressional elections than a Presidential election.At any rate, they did so in Minnesota some years back, and it didn’t make too ,many waves.
If the Republicans can go into the new session of Congress with small majorities in both Houses, they may be able to reject the official state returns in the contested states and instead accept the rival Republican electors. Although this has never happened before, the Federal election law gives the Congress the right to do this. And since there are only a few days between the Congress voting on which electoral slates to accept and the President’s inauguration, the Democrats will be hard pressed to reverse such a Congressional vote. And I don’t think the courts can or will help them if they try.
@ Reader:
A correction: “so no one’s feelings are hurt”.
The system won’t let me edit my comment.
@ Ted Belman:
I don’t shill for Biden, I don’t even like Biden.
I don’t like any of them.
I won’t post on your website until this whole election fight is over, so no one feelings are hurt.
I have my own opinion and you are welcome to yours.
BTW, some people here pretty much told me to go kill myself (more than once) and you didn’t threaten to ban them.
Troll on most all subjects who I am speaking about?
@ Reader:
If you continue to shill for Biden, I will ban you from Israpundit.
@ Reader:
It’s clear that you are not actually viewing or reading any of the articles or videos on this site about the election. Nothing you are saying is even in the ball park. You are just a troll. Everybody else is ignoring you.
The evidence is overwhelming. The opening statement to the public of what they intend by Giuliani and the other senior lawyers who speak in this video was impressive and clearly explained to a non-lawyer audience. Bravo. They indict the press and they are obviously embarrassed.
Rudi Giuliani hasn’t practiced law for 30 (thirty) years.
The MSM is merely reporting his screw-ups in the courtroom.
His fellow attorney tried to quit several days ago but the judge wouldn’t let her.
It is not about winning cases, it is about stalling for time in order to sabotage the state certification to make the results undecided by discrediting the results of the election, flooding the courts with frivolous lawsuits, forcing recounts that cannot be completed by the deadline, a recount after a recount.
These recounts may end up costing the taxpayers tens of millions of $$ during one of the worst times for the country’s economy, but who cares, right? As long as justice is served…
If they succeed and the deadlines are not met, then Trump will get his special electors to “win” the presidency.
Also, some of the lawsuits may end up in the Supreme Court which will help in one of two (or both) ways: either help to blow the deadlines, or decide in Trump’s favor with “his” 6:3 majority.
What a mess.
FANTASTIC.
Lots of allegations in multiple states. Need to prove these prove these so that court believes it or the appellate court or Supreme Court in the end.
It will be interesting. Mainstream media is making Rudi Gulliani out to be a kook or ignoring him. Much different than Gore v. Bush in 2000 where all the networks and news media covered the Florida case and hanging chads.
Here we have allegation of a massive fraud and conspiracy executed via software. The allegations will have to be proven a preponderance of the evidence plus be material enough to overturn the elections in at least 3 cases. Very Tall order but time will tell.
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“Who the hell are these reprobates in the media…”
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@ Bear Klein:
It will be interesting. Mainstream media is making Rudi Gulliani out to be a kook or ignoring him. M
Who the hell are these reprobates in the media To determine what we can’t see and hear and then to declare Rudy’s remarks “falsehoods”? Their job is to simply provide us information and then let us determine whether the allegations are credible. They aren’t supposed to treat us like subjects or children and be TOLD what to believe. There is infinitely more evidence of voter fraud than there ever was of Russia collusion, yet the former is labeled a conspiracy theory while the latter is treated as truth. The same with Hunter Biden’s laptop which was physical evidence but we were told was merely a conspiracy theory. We are being gaslighted by a thoroughly corrupt, lying media on a par with pravda. After they get through with the tech tyrants, they need to haul in these executives from the “news” networks before the Senate.
@ Adam Dalgliesh:
Hi, Adam. You said,
“I do have a strategy in mind that might just work to get Trump reelected…”
I recall an episone of “Sharpe’s rifles”, in which a young earl, aspiring for honor and advancement, volunteered for the “Forlorn Hope” detachment to storm a fortress. As he and his men set off to face the cannonade, he told Sharpe,
“I believe I have a plan”.
He got killed by the first volley, as everyone expected. There are many plans in the air during the present crisis, the majority of which are likely to go no further than the young earl’s. God holds the master plan, and all the details. I’m just awaiting orders.
@ Sebastien Zorn:
Yes he did. He and Powell seemed to think it was very important to their cases.
@ Edgar G.:
He introduces Sydney Powell who discusses Dominion at length at 37:50.
@ Edgar G.:
Didn’t Giuliani discuss Dominion and at least one other in his press conference and say that it was under active investigation? I don’t feel like listening to the whole thing all over again but that’s what I seem to recall.
@ Bear Klein</b
Bear, why make mysterious questions, Just tell us who it is…You’re just making us curious.
I have no idea why the print has become so heavy. I pressed the wrong button I suppose.
@ Adam Dalgliesh:
ADAM- You may have overlooked the fact that the “state authorities” that you give such power to are all, or nearly all, strongly Republican. And they way I understand it (although I may be wrong) is, that the validations of the results only be signed-off by those legislatures, to the Electors that they appoint.
It is the legislatures which make the laws, not the Governors nor Attorney’s-General. I’m sure you know this, and I mention it just in case you have overlooked it.
I believe that the actual results, as decided by the Supreme Court, may be nailed down, on the evidence of the phony Dominion machines, and the deliberately mal-adjusted software. It has been confirmed that in certain important districts, hundreds of thousands of votes were automatically scored for Biden only, within the space of 2-3 seconds, an impossibility except for computer manufactured figures.. There were others noted, where a certain large number of votes were credited to Biden, and the observers also saw that Trump’s figures reduced the identical amount, at exactly that moment.
I believe that this is the sort of evidence that Giuliani and the others were talking about which they were not disclosing . Much of this evidence was winkled out by very talented bloggers-experts really, of which there are thousands scouring ever single vote in every state, county and district.
It’s becoming very absorbing, like an old fashioned serial movie.
I don’t believe for a moment that there would be an armed insurrection. The Dems would, know that their frauds had been detected and remedied, and at most, there would be riots similar to those which have already taken place.
The republicans won’t have a majority in both houses, unless voter fraud for those places are also detected.
Adam Dalgliesh Said:
And this, in your opinion, would be less likely to provoke civil insurrection than court decisions recognizing the indisputable proof of widespread organized fraud.
I believe that the evidence of election fraud is overwhelming. However, I don’t think that anyone will order the kind of recount that might reveal who received the most legal and genuine votes in the contested states, and how many fake votes were added to the count. In most of the contested states, the state judges and even the Federal judges are Democratic judges are Democratic Party appointees. Several of the Federal judges are Obama appointees. But even when they are Republicans, they will be unwilling to interfere in the election, or overturn the election counts by the authorities charged with counting the votes by state law. Judges are terrified of appearing to be meddling in elections and overturning “the wil of the people.” True, the Republican majority on the Supreme Court in 2000 stopped the recount in two counties of Florida. But they did so only by affirming the official vote count of the Florida state election authorities. Even so, the Supreme Court’s intevention was by a narrow 5-4 margin, and two of the dissenting judges (both Republicans) accused their colleagues, including Chied Justice Renquist, of undermining democracy and causing the American people to “lose.” It was one of the bitterest dissents in the history of the Supreme Court.
In the present situation, the Court would have to overturn the official returns, not affirm them. And it would have to overturn them not in one state, but at least five, and not in two counties but somewhere around ten. The courts, from the lower courts all the way up to the Supreme Court, are unlikely to intervene forcefully enough to reverse the election results, because they will fear to be seen as overturning “the will of the people.” They also know that if they award the election to Trump after the state authorities have awarded it to Biden, the “left” would stage a massive armed insurrection and start a civil war. So the courts won’t go there.
I do have a strategy in mind that might just work to get Trump reelected. That would be to prevent the Democrats from stealing the run-off elections for the Senate in Georgia, and working to reverse the election of a small number of House seats scattered accross the country. The courts are less inhibited about overturning Congressional elections than a Presidential election.At any rate, they did so in Minnesota some years back, and it didn’t make too ,many waves.
If the Republicans can go into the new session of Congress with small majorities in both Houses, they may be able to reject the official state returns in the contested states and instead accept the rival Republican electors. Although this has never happened before, the Federal election law gives the Congress the right to do this. And since there are only a few days between the Congress voting on which electoral slates to accept and the President’s inauguration, the Democrats will be hard pressed to reverse such a Congressional vote. And I don’t think the courts can or will help them if they try.
@ Reader:
A correction: “so no one’s feelings are hurt”.
The system won’t let me edit my comment.
@ Ted Belman:
I don’t shill for Biden, I don’t even like Biden.
I don’t like any of them.
I won’t post on your website until this whole election fight is over, so no one feelings are hurt.
I have my own opinion and you are welcome to yours.
BTW, some people here pretty much told me to go kill myself (more than once) and you didn’t threaten to ban them.
Troll on most all subjects who I am speaking about?
@ Reader:
If you continue to shill for Biden, I will ban you from Israpundit.
@ Reader:
It’s clear that you are not actually viewing or reading any of the articles or videos on this site about the election. Nothing you are saying is even in the ball park. You are just a troll. Everybody else is ignoring you.
The evidence is overwhelming. The opening statement to the public of what they intend by Giuliani and the other senior lawyers who speak in this video was impressive and clearly explained to a non-lawyer audience. Bravo. They indict the press and they are obviously embarrassed.
Rudi Giuliani hasn’t practiced law for 30 (thirty) years.
The MSM is merely reporting his screw-ups in the courtroom.
His fellow attorney tried to quit several days ago but the judge wouldn’t let her.
It is not about winning cases, it is about stalling for time in order to sabotage the state certification to make the results undecided by discrediting the results of the election, flooding the courts with frivolous lawsuits, forcing recounts that cannot be completed by the deadline, a recount after a recount.
These recounts may end up costing the taxpayers tens of millions of $$ during one of the worst times for the country’s economy, but who cares, right? As long as justice is served…
If they succeed and the deadlines are not met, then Trump will get his special electors to “win” the presidency.
Also, some of the lawsuits may end up in the Supreme Court which will help in one of two (or both) ways: either help to blow the deadlines, or decide in Trump’s favor with “his” 6:3 majority.
What a mess.
FANTASTIC.
Lots of allegations in multiple states. Need to prove these prove these so that court believes it or the appellate court or Supreme Court in the end.
It will be interesting. Mainstream media is making Rudi Gulliani out to be a kook or ignoring him. Much different than Gore v. Bush in 2000 where all the networks and news media covered the Florida case and hanging chads.
Here we have allegation of a massive fraud and conspiracy executed via software. The allegations will have to be proven a preponderance of the evidence plus be material enough to overturn the elections in at least 3 cases. Very Tall order but time will tell.