Liberman: Government after March election ‘essentially a done deal’

‘I don’t want to go into details, but there won’t be 4th vote,’ Yisrael Beytenu chief says; asked if he means unity coalition, he answers: ‘Not unity — all Zionist parties’

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Yisrael Beytenu chairman Avigdor Liberman speaks during a press conference at the Knesset on December 11, 2019. (Yonatan Sindel/Flash90)

Yisrael Beytenu chief Avigdor Liberman claims it is “essentially a locked and done deal” that a government will be formed following the March elections, after two rounds of national votes in 2019 failed to produce a coalition.

“I don’t want to go into details, but… there won’t be a fourth election,” he tells the Ynet news site. “I want a coalition of all Zionist parties.”

Asked if he means another attempt to form a unity government, Liberman answers: “Not unity, I say all Zionist parties.”

Liberman also asserted ahead of the September election that there would not be a third vote — a claim that was proved wrong.

The Yisrael Beytenu leader also says he believes the old-new Yamina alliance of right-wing parties will not pass the electoral threshold to enter the Knesset, citing the infighting and mudslinging he claims will drive away voters.

He attacks its leaders Bezalel Smotrich and Rafi Peretz who “want to take us back to the days of King David, King Saul, [of] Biblical law.”

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  1. I am not sure we can count on Liberman to deliver here. Let me speculate what he means when he says Zionist Parties. He is clearly excluding the Arab Joint List that is obvious to anyone remotely knowledgeable on the subject.

    He is also excluding the UTJ/Shas the Haredi parties who are not considered Zionist parties.

    So that leaves as Zionist parties: Blue/White, Labor/Meretz, Yamina, and Likud.

    So further speculation Bibi gets sidelined because he is at trial and does not get immunity. So the four Zionist parties form a coalition according to Liberman: Blue/White, Labor/Meretz, Yamina, and Likud.

  2. I have a different take. I believe Liberman. During the last two times he said he wanted a unity government and he stuck by what he said. I kept saying that Bibi should put him in a room with UTJ and Shas until they make a deal. There was no other way to form a government.

    Now Liberman says forming a government is a done deal and it will be a Zionist government. I believe him.

    So the question is what happenned to bring this about? I think Liberman was told something to cause him to join the other Zionists who are right of center.. I think I know the answer.

    Secondly when Bibi was getting ready for the third election, I kept saying the result would be the same and that’s why I backed Saar. But Bibi didn’t seem to care. Perhaps he had something else up his sleve. Perhaps he knew that Liberman had agreed to join and what brought them together.

    In any event I believe we will have a Zionist government including Liberman’s Party.

  3. Three new polls show Blue and White leading the Likud with the Knesset deadlocked – again
    First polls taken after parties register show neither side with majority. Will Yamina gain seats – and will Otzma be in the next Knesset?

    Netanyahu and Gantz
    Three new polls released Thursday after parties registered for the Knesset election Wednesday show neither side with a decisive advantage, despite the Blue and White party holding a consistent lead over the Likud.

    According to a poll conducted by Midgam on Thursday and released by Channel 12 Thursday night, if new elections were held today, the right-wing – religious bloc would hold a narrow edge over the left-wing – Arab bloc, with 57 seats to the Left’s 55, while Yisrael Beytenu, which has called for a unity government, would win eight seats.

    Blue and White would be the largest party in the Knesset once again, the poll shows, with 34 seats, compared to 32 for the Likud.

    The reformed Yamina alliance of three small rightist parties – Jewish Home, National Union, and the New Right – would win 10 seats, three more than it won in September 2019, while the Otzma Yehudit party would fail to cross the 3.25% electoral threshold, receiving just 2% of the vote.

    Shas would win eight seats, down from the nine it currently has, while United Torah Judaism would hold steady at seven seats.

    The Joint Arab List would retain its 13 seats, while the united Labor-Meretz-Gesher ticket would win a disappointing eight seats, three below the eleven the Labor-Gesher and Meretz lists won combined in September 2019.

    The poll also found that 40% of Israelis say Binyamin Netanyahu is their preferred candidate for the premiership, compared to 38% who favored Blue and White chief Benny Gantz, 10% who said they had no favorite, and 6% who did not know.

    Channel 12 – Midgam (Current number of seats in parentheses)

    Blue and White: 34 (33)
    Likud: 32 (32)
    Joint List: 13 (13)
    Yamina: 10 (7)
    Yisrael Beytenu: 8 (8)
    Labor-Meretz: 8 (11)
    Shas: 8 (9)
    UTJ: 7 (7)
    Otzma: 0 (0)

    Right-Religious Bloc: 57
    Left-Arab Bloc: 55
    Unity (Yisrael Beytenu): 8

    A second poll, conducted by Camil Fuchs for Channel 13, found that if new elections were held today, the right-wing – religious bloc would again win 55 seats, the same number it won in September, while the left-wing – Arab bloc would retain its 57 seats, with Yisrael Beytenu again winning eight seats.

    The Likud trailed Blue and White by three seats in this poll, 31 to 34, with the Joint Arab List gaining a seat and rising to 14 mandates.

    The Labor-Meretz-Gesher alliance would win nine seats if new elections were held today, while Shas would plummet from nine seats to six. UTJ would hold stable at seven seats.

    The Yamina party would retain the seven seats it won in September, while Otzma Yehudit would win four seats.

    Forty percent of respondents said they prefer Netanyahu as premier, compared to 36% who chose Gantz.

    Channel 13 – Camil Fuchs (Current number of seats in parentheses)

    Blue and White: 34 (33)
    Likud: 31 (32)
    Joint List: 14 (13)
    Yamina: 7 (7)
    Yisrael Beytenu: 8 (8)
    Labor-Meretz: 9 (11)
    Shas: 6 (9)
    UTJ: 7 (7)
    Otzma: 4 (0)

    Right-Religious Bloc: 55
    Left-Arab Bloc: 57
    Unity (Yisrael Beytenu): 8

    A third poll, conducted by Kantar on behalf of Kan, showed the left-wing – Arab bloc expanding its lead over the Right, rising from 57 seats to 58, while the right-wing – religious bloc remains at 55 and Yisrael Beytenu declines to seven seats.

    In this poll, Blue and White soared to 36 seats, while the Likud fell to 31.

    The Joint Arab List received 13 seats in the poll, compared to nine for the Labor-Meretz-Gesher joint ticket.

    Shas would retain its nine seats, the poll found, while UTJ would rise from seven to eight.

    Yamina would retain its seven seats, while Otzma Yehudit would receive 2.2% of the vote, failing to cross the electoral threshold.

    Kan – Kantar (Current number of seats in parentheses)

    Blue and White: 36 (33)
    Likud: 31 (32)
    Joint List: 13 (13)
    Yamina: 7 (7)
    Yisrael Beytenu: 7 (8)
    Labor-Meretz: 9 (11)
    Shas: 9 (9)
    UTJ: 8 (7)
    Otzma: 0 (0)

    Right-Religious Bloc: 55
    Left-Arab Bloc: 58
    Unity (Yisrael Beytenu): 7

    These three polls taken around the same time show extremely varied results. Suggests public opinion is in turmoil and subject to rapid, unpredictable shifts. One poll shows the Left-Arab bloc only two seats from complete victory.

  4. From Today’s Jerusalem Post. This means big trouble for Bibi and a big boost for Gantz.

    Final hurdle preventing Netanyahu immunity removal likely next week
    Netanyahu announced on Thursday that he was formally joining the Likud’s petition to the High Court against Knesset legal adviser Eyal Yinon’s ruling allowing the House Committee to be formed.
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    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu attends the weekly cabinet meeting, January 2020. (photo credit: ALEX KOLOMOISKY / POOL)
    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu attends the weekly cabinet meeting, January 2020.
    (photo credit: ALEX KOLOMOISKY / POOL)

    Knesset Speaker Yuli Edelstein is expected at the beginning of next week to announce a date for the Knesset plenum to convene to pass the final proposal necessary to ensure that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s immunity will be removed.
    There is a majority for removing Netanyahu’s immunity in the Knesset plenum and there will also be in the House Committee that will legislate the rejection of his request for immunity from prosecution in his criminal cases. The Knesset Arrangements Committee passed a proposal on Monday to create a House Committee, even though it is normally only established after a government is formed.
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    Edelstein’s associates said he was not taking either threat too seriously. Blue and White said it would start a process of toppling Edelstein if he did not convene the plenum by Monday, but sources close to Edelstein noted that overthrowing him also depended on him convening the Knesset, so it did not matter. The sources said the Likud’s pressure was also irrelevant, because he is required to convene the plenum within a reasonable time after he receives a formal request from 25 MKs.
    The House Committee will vote to reject Netanyahu’s immunity after some three weeks of deliberations. After the vote to reject immunity, Netanyahu’s indictment will be filed to Jerusalem District Court but will not begin for several months. Once the indictment is filed, Netanyahu will not be able to request immunity from the next Knesset.
    Netanyahu announced on Thursday that he was formally joining the Likud’s petition to the High Court against Knesset legal adviser Eyal Yinon’s ruling allowing the House Committee to be formed.
    When the plenum next convenes, former Blue and White MK Yorai Lahav Hertzanu will be sworn in, replacing MK Gadi Yevarkan, who resigned on Wednesday in order to run with the Likud in the March election.

  5. My take on these stories: most of Jewish Home will refuse to follow Rafi Peretz onto the Yamina List. Instead, it will join with Otzma Yehudit to launch a spoiler’s campaign that will damage the right bloc. Granted a seat on the Yamina list, Otzma Yehudit would have been rendered harmless. Not so now.

  6. From Today’s Arutz Sheva:

    Rabbi Eli Ben-Dahan: I was added to the list without my knowledge
    ‘The Jewish Home has a voice that no other party has. It’s a name with a tradition and it’s reached its end unless we can revive it.’

    Former Jewish Home Deputy Minister Rabbi Eli Ben-Dahan
    Former Jewish Home Deputy Minister Rabbi Eli Ben-Dahan told Arutz Sheva that his name was put on the Yemina list without his knowledge. “The word candidate is a little funny. They didn’t even ask me and I was put on the list without being notified. I guess they needed names and put me on the list.”

    Ben-Dahan expressed his disappointment with the last-minute political maneuvering that led the Jewish Home to offer high places on the list to National Religious media personalities, knocking down other candidates to unrealistic spots on the list, and to breach its agreement with Otzma Yehudit.

    He is considering whether to continue being a member of Jewish Home or to form or join another party. He is meeting with MK Moti Yogev who announced on Wednesday that he leaving the Jewish Home to discuss their options.

    “Moti and I talked yesterday and met today (Thursday). Both of us are the only ones who were officially elected by the Jewish Home election committee and we will consider together what to do. The name Jewish Home now belongs to Rabbi Rafi Peretz and Nir Auerbach. We have to discuss whether we’ll use the name – building something new – or we’ll let someone else rebuild the home for Religious-Zionism. I think that ultimately this is the eulogy for the community and the entire state of Israel.”

    “The Jewish Home has a voice that no other party has, which connects between the holy and secular, which sees the State of Israel as the beginning of our salvation… It is a name with a tradition and it’s reached its end unless we can revive it.”

    “I admit that the Jewish Home can’t run alone [in the elections]. I felt that there should be a full merger between the National Union and the Jewish Home three months ago. We need to consider how to accomplish this.”

  7. From today’s Jerusalem Post:

    Does Bennett victory over Netanyahu mean he’s no longer in his pocket?
    Bennett did not blink. He kept refusing Netanyahu until the prime minister gave into him.
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    Israeli Defense Minister Naftali Bennett looks at Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during a visit to an Israeli army base in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, November 24, 2019 (photo credit: ATEF SAFADI/POOL VIA REUTERS)
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    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu got defeated by a party leader on Wednesday.
    But it was not Blue and White leader Benny Gantz, his main opponent in the March 2 election.
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    The leader who emerged victorious over Netanyahu was the head of the newly reconstituted Yamina party, Defense Minister Naftali Bennett.
    Netanyahu pushed Bennett for days to go against his conscience and allow the leader of the far Right Otzma Yehudit party, Itamar Ben-Gvir, to run with him, in order to ensure there would be no right-wing party that would not cross the electoral threshold and would waste votes. Netanyahu’s office even leaked that the prime minister was considering firing Bennett from his post as defense minister.
    But Bennett did not blink. He kept refusing Netanyahu until the prime minister gave into him.
    And Netanyahu did not just give in to Bennett about not running with Ben-Gvir. Bennett got Netanyahu to shift his pressure to Bayit Yehudi leader Rafi Peretz to join Yamina, abandon his own deal with Ben-Gvir and receive only one realistic slot on the list for Bayit Yehudi.
    To get Peretz to back off, Netanyahu showed him polls indicating that Bayit Yehudi would not cross the electoral threshold running alone with Ben-Gvir. He later promised Peretz to appoint him education minister if he forms the next government.
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    Netanyahu essentially helped Bennett get his revenge against his former party and go from being unemployed seven months ago and fourth on the Yamina list four months ago to number one on a united Yamina list with all his rivals behind him and walking wounded. Bennett also got his revenge against religious-Zionist rabbis who no longer control him.
    Bennett might have even positioned himself to be a candidate for prime minister whenever the post-Netanyahu era begins, especially if the candidate chosen by Likud to succeed Netanyahu as party leader ends up being unimpressive.
    And it all happened in the nick of time. The head of the Central Elections Committee, Supreme Court judge Neal Hendel, did not even let Yamina officials complete writing their list of candidates, forcing them to stop as the details of the party’s 17th candidate were being written.
    The success of Bennett’s chief of staff, Tal Gan-Zvi, in getting the head of the Bayit Yehudi central committee, former MK Idit Silman, to shift to Bennett’s New Right also helped Bennett finish off Peretz and cement his leadership.
    Bennett’s associates said he had proven once and for all that he is no longer in Netanyahu’s pocket.
    What does that mean for the future? Does it mean that Bennett could help Gantz form a government after the March 2 election?
    Bennett would say no, because he cannot betray his right-wing constituency and he has figures further to the Right on his list. He will remain a loyal member of Netanyahu and his political bloc.
    But after the election, if Gantz and his bloc win a clear victory and public sentiment is strongly against a fourth election and keeping the Defense portfolio is offered, it cannot be ruled out that Bennett will think differently.
    After all, his threat behind the scenes to join Gantz after the September election was believable enough for Netanyahu to give him the Defense portfolio. Now that Bennett is more independent, it is more possible than ever that Bennett could deal his former boss the blow that could end his political career.

  8. I think we can discount what Leiberman says. He is an irresponsiblle demagogue with no prophetic powers. He may even be a Russian agent, since it is difficult to see who could benefit from his political gyrations other than Russia.

    However, the odds still heavily favor a Gantz-led Blue-White government. Leiberman’s all -Zionist- parties unity scheme is extremely unlikely due to the significant policy differences between these parties.But the likelihood that Bibi’s criminal trial will commence before March 2, or at least be scheduled for shortly thereafter, more or less precludes the possibility that the right bloc will have enough delegates to form a government. The Supreme Court, together with the ant-Bibi majority of the former MKs of the dissolved former Knesset, who have illegally declared ithemselvesf to still be the Knesset, with the support of their Legal Advisor and the Supreme Court, have given their approval to his being indicted and tried before March 2. And it is too late for the Likud to change its leader.Relatively few voters are going to vote for a prime minister who has not only been indicted, but whose trial has already begun. The “Center-left” bloc plus the Arabs, whom the pollsters have always included in the Center-left bloc, should be able to win a clear majority of the seats and form a government.

    Even if they don’t get 61 seats for the Left bloc to rule on its own, Gantz and Lapid should be able to “tempt” the haredi parties to join them by threatening to cancel all of their powers, privileges and funding unless they agree to join a Blue-White government.

    The only thing that could prevent Blue-White from forming a new government is if Gantz and Lapid from leading the new government is if they prove to be incompetent at persuading their potential coalition partners to join Blue-White in the new government, or if they fail to maintain discipline and unity in their own four-party coalition. Given their failure to form a government after the April election, despite 65 anti-Bibi MKs, make it possible that they will bungle negotiations this time around too. But that is the only way they can fail to form a government.

  9. Where is the advertising onslaught to persuade Yisrael Beytenu voters to abandon Liberman (from the brilliant marketers of candidates)?