I find that nurses do an incredibly important job in medicine, and compliment our work as physicians. But they do not have the ability to make medical diagnoses. So, while your experience is appreciated, you are not in a position to judge whether Hillary has Parkinson’s or not.
LOL, typical generic pap….. everyday I speak to folks stating the opposite… that the doctor missed the diagnosis but the nurse got it right… I have plenty times had the same experience.
What I do notice is that you have posted nothing that demonstrates your assertion that you are a physician in fact AND expert in PD… I only have seen generic postings which I could have made myself from the Mayo clinic website or WebMD. Noticeably absent from any of your posts and especially your reply to nurse nancy is any detailed support for you conclusions that does NOT reflect cut and paste from webMD. IN fact, your reply to nurse nancy shows absolutely NO medical expertise at all…. you merely gave generic responses as to education and licensing qualifications… and yet those of age and experience have often experienced that your generic responses are baloney.
Perhaps you can actually tell us why nurse nancy is incorrect as opposed to quoting generic pap about nurse anybody?
And with that, I sign off. Good luck to you all.
Nancy,
I appreciate your RN background. But nurses do not have the formal medical training or clinical expertise to make diagnoses. As a nurse, you should know that nurses are trained to recognize changes in clinical status, not to make formal diagnoses. I find that nurses do an incredibly important job in medicine, and compliment our work as physicians. But they do not have the ability to make medical diagnoses. So, while your experience is appreciated, you are not in a position to judge whether Hillary has Parkinson’s or not. And as for Bernard Ross, I’m afraid you’re hopeless.
Bernard, grow up. You’re not a physician, and hunting around finding a variety of statistics and tangential reports is meaningless. The most accurate and important factor is a physician’s clinical judgment, which is something I have and you don’t.
Can you give any evidence of this assertion which you offered to support your claim?
In other words you have no evidence to support your assertion that you are a physician treating Parkinsons even though that was the basis for your claim AND even though we have this contrary view which to many is no less credible than that of a young physician Nancy B Said:
As a RN of more than 30 years and having cared for hundreds of patients with PD throughout those years, this was the diagnosis that I personally came to some months ago. I’m perplexed by Broom’s above comment and do not find it believable. The facts alone substantiate the validity of this video, in my opinion.
I know many who put more faith and stock in the diagnoses of experienced RN’s than physicians in a rush….. AND much more than those pretending to be physicians who simply cut and paste symptoms from WebMD. I notice that you never explained why you disagree with the RN with 30 years experience who treated 100’s of PD patients….. is that because you are NOT a physician?
Methinks thou dost protest too much…… you display the certainty of a hillary campaign officer in your diagnosis.
Bernard, grow up. You’re not a physician, and hunting around finding a variety of statistics and tangential reports is meaningless. The most accurate and important factor is a physician’s clinical judgment, which is something I have and you don’t. So, rather than “playing the skeptic,” or perhaps the ignoramus, try to learn something from someone who knows what he’s talking about. Hillary does not have Parkinson’s disease based on her clinical appearance and presentation. Her coughing is not a manifestation of Parkinson’s.
I could, but why should I? If you don’t believe me, that’s your problem, not mine.
it’s obvious to a physician that she does not have Parkinson’s. Move on from this fantasy.
hmmmmmm?
If it is obvious to a physician then how do you explain this:
Hillary’s Health Concerns Serious, Say Most Doctors Polled by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) https://www.israpundit.org/archives/63617561 broom Said:
there is no sign of Parkinson’s. Parkinson’s patients generally manifest with resting tremor, a “festinating” gait, a “mask-like facies,” and a typical posture. There are also characteristic mental status changes and voice changes. Hillary has none of those signs.
the word “generally” appears to reduce the credibility of your confident assertion
note all the words in bold attached to the presentation of symptoms.
I have noticed in recent years that doctors are tending to give diagnoses based on statistical percentages. Although a disease may present 70% per cent of the time in a certain manner there are a number of cases of a small percentage which present differently. The problem with the use of these statistics is that doctors have embraced them as being 100% accurate rather than 70% accurate thus misleading patients who fall into the minority range. The mislieading is not due to the statistical tool but the doctors unwarranted confident embrace of the efficacy of the tool.
One question to you would be: “are there cases of parkinsons which have not displayed all the symptoms you mentioned”?
@ dove:
Her husband always, from the moment I saw him on the political screen, looked to me like a satyr, with his wicked little eyes, and W.C.Fields nose.
I don’t know why it was never mentioned, as it stuck out like a sore thumb to me. And at that time I know nothing about him, either positive or negative.
And when I consider what happened to poor Nixon, for a comparative nothing, who with all his faults, was far superior as a president than the majority of the others. He was hounded out by the Democrats and the self-righteous. He did far better for the GOP and the country than did Clinton.
Apropos nothing, when the so-called “ping pong” diplomacy came about, and the Chinese table-tennis team visited Canada first, I happened to have been the president of the first T-T club they played at, and was the first to play with them, actually with one of their coaches. They were amazing.
I don’t know about her but her husband looks very ill to me.
The head-bobbing is obviously a habit of hers in responding to funny questions. It’s a behavioral gesticulation. It’s not a disease. The coughing is probably from talking a lot. Talking a lot causes the vocal cords to dry out and then cause coughing in some people. It seems unlikely to be related to a disease process.
We can win this election and defeat Hillary without invoking diseases. However, if you want to talk about medical problems, she did pass out and sustain a head injury and concussion last year. She then claimed to the FBI to be unable to recall important details of her emails and server issue. Now, I believe she’s lying about that. But it does raise the possibility that she really did suffer persistent brain damage from that concussion.
@ broom: She has been doing the head bobbing for quite a while so are in error on that.
I am not disputing you assessment that it is NOT Parkinson’s disease.
Any disease have symptoms of head bobbing and coughing?
Once again, there is no sign of Parkinson’s. Parkinson’s patients generally manifest with resting tremor, a “festinating” gait, a “mask-like facies,” and a typical posture. There are also characteristic mental status changes and voice changes. Hillary has none of those signs.
The other factor is that the “head-bobbing” occurred only once, and was related to a reporter’s question. That is simply not the way Parkinson’s behaves or appears.
I am not a Hillary supporter, but it’s obvious to a physician that she does not have Parkinson’s. Move on from this fantasy.
I am not a doctor and posting this from the internet just for fun diagnosis.
Bobble-head doll syndrome is a rare neurological movement disorder in which patients, usually children around age 3, begin to bob their head and shoulders forward and back, or sometimes side-to-side, involuntarily, in a manner reminiscent of a bobblehead doll. The syndrome is related to cystic lesions and swelling of the third ventricle in the brain. Symptoms of bobble-head doll syndrome are diverse but can be grouped into two categories: physical and neurological.[1] The most common form of treatment is surgical implanting of a shunt to relieve the swelling of the brain.[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobble-head_doll_syndrome
I think the physician in this video is correct in his differential diagnosis. As a RN of more than 30 years and having cared for hundreds of patients with PD throughout those years, this was the diagnosis that I personally came to some months ago. I’m perplexed by Broom’s above comment and do not find it believable. The facts alone substantiate the validity of this video, in my opinion.
hat head-bobbing was just a humorous gesture in response to a funny question from a reporter.
Really?
I am a physician who treats patients with Parkinson’s. Hillary does not have Parkinson’s disease. That head-bobbing was just a humorous gesture in response to a funny question from a reporter. There is no sign of Parkinson’s. She has many faults, but Parkinson’s is not one of them.
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broom Said:
LOL, and I thought that “hope springs eternal”…. my bad.
broom Said:
and with that doc quackenbush hurriedly left the room
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixNUpUnwZpY
broom Said:
LOL, typical generic pap….. everyday I speak to folks stating the opposite… that the doctor missed the diagnosis but the nurse got it right… I have plenty times had the same experience.
What I do notice is that you have posted nothing that demonstrates your assertion that you are a physician in fact AND expert in PD… I only have seen generic postings which I could have made myself from the Mayo clinic website or WebMD. Noticeably absent from any of your posts and especially your reply to nurse nancy is any detailed support for you conclusions that does NOT reflect cut and paste from webMD. IN fact, your reply to nurse nancy shows absolutely NO medical expertise at all…. you merely gave generic responses as to education and licensing qualifications… and yet those of age and experience have often experienced that your generic responses are baloney.
Perhaps you can actually tell us why nurse nancy is incorrect as opposed to quoting generic pap about nurse anybody?
And with that, I sign off. Good luck to you all.
Nancy,
I appreciate your RN background. But nurses do not have the formal medical training or clinical expertise to make diagnoses. As a nurse, you should know that nurses are trained to recognize changes in clinical status, not to make formal diagnoses. I find that nurses do an incredibly important job in medicine, and compliment our work as physicians. But they do not have the ability to make medical diagnoses. So, while your experience is appreciated, you are not in a position to judge whether Hillary has Parkinson’s or not. And as for Bernard Ross, I’m afraid you’re hopeless.
broom Said:
dont worry, I dont beleive hillary either and she demonstrates the same level of confidence and certainty as do you.
broom Said:
bernard ross Said:
In other words you have no evidence to support your assertion that you are a physician treating Parkinsons even though that was the basis for your claim AND even though we have this contrary view which to many is no less credible than that of a young physician
Nancy B Said:
I know many who put more faith and stock in the diagnoses of experienced RN’s than physicians in a rush….. AND much more than those pretending to be physicians who simply cut and paste symptoms from WebMD. I notice that you never explained why you disagree with the RN with 30 years experience who treated 100’s of PD patients….. is that because you are NOT a physician?
Methinks thou dost protest too much…… you display the certainty of a hillary campaign officer in your diagnosis.
Bernard, grow up. You’re not a physician, and hunting around finding a variety of statistics and tangential reports is meaningless. The most accurate and important factor is a physician’s clinical judgment, which is something I have and you don’t. So, rather than “playing the skeptic,” or perhaps the ignoramus, try to learn something from someone who knows what he’s talking about. Hillary does not have Parkinson’s disease based on her clinical appearance and presentation. Her coughing is not a manifestation of Parkinson’s.
I could, but why should I? If you don’t believe me, that’s your problem, not mine.
broom Said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H133cTro1NQ
broom Said:
Can you give any evidence of this assertion which you offered to support your claim?
broom Said:
hmmmmmm?
If it is obvious to a physician then how do you explain this:
Hillary’s Health Concerns Serious, Say Most Doctors Polled by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS)
https://www.israpundit.org/archives/63617561
broom Said:
the word “generally” appears to reduce the credibility of your confident assertion
note all the words in bold attached to the presentation of symptoms.
I have noticed in recent years that doctors are tending to give diagnoses based on statistical percentages. Although a disease may present 70% per cent of the time in a certain manner there are a number of cases of a small percentage which present differently. The problem with the use of these statistics is that doctors have embraced them as being 100% accurate rather than 70% accurate thus misleading patients who fall into the minority range. The mislieading is not due to the statistical tool but the doctors unwarranted confident embrace of the efficacy of the tool.
One question to you would be: “are there cases of parkinsons which have not displayed all the symptoms you mentioned”?
@ dove:
Her husband always, from the moment I saw him on the political screen, looked to me like a satyr, with his wicked little eyes, and W.C.Fields nose.
I don’t know why it was never mentioned, as it stuck out like a sore thumb to me. And at that time I know nothing about him, either positive or negative.
And when I consider what happened to poor Nixon, for a comparative nothing, who with all his faults, was far superior as a president than the majority of the others. He was hounded out by the Democrats and the self-righteous. He did far better for the GOP and the country than did Clinton.
Apropos nothing, when the so-called “ping pong” diplomacy came about, and the Chinese table-tennis team visited Canada first, I happened to have been the president of the first T-T club they played at, and was the first to play with them, actually with one of their coaches. They were amazing.
I don’t know about her but her husband looks very ill to me.
The head-bobbing is obviously a habit of hers in responding to funny questions. It’s a behavioral gesticulation. It’s not a disease. The coughing is probably from talking a lot. Talking a lot causes the vocal cords to dry out and then cause coughing in some people. It seems unlikely to be related to a disease process.
We can win this election and defeat Hillary without invoking diseases. However, if you want to talk about medical problems, she did pass out and sustain a head injury and concussion last year. She then claimed to the FBI to be unable to recall important details of her emails and server issue. Now, I believe she’s lying about that. But it does raise the possibility that she really did suffer persistent brain damage from that concussion.
@ broom:
She has been doing the head bobbing for quite a while so are in error on that.
I am not disputing you assessment that it is NOT Parkinson’s disease.
Any disease have symptoms of head bobbing and coughing?
Once again, there is no sign of Parkinson’s. Parkinson’s patients generally manifest with resting tremor, a “festinating” gait, a “mask-like facies,” and a typical posture. There are also characteristic mental status changes and voice changes. Hillary has none of those signs.
The other factor is that the “head-bobbing” occurred only once, and was related to a reporter’s question. That is simply not the way Parkinson’s behaves or appears.
I am not a Hillary supporter, but it’s obvious to a physician that she does not have Parkinson’s. Move on from this fantasy.
I am not a doctor and posting this from the internet just for fun diagnosis.
I think the physician in this video is correct in his differential diagnosis. As a RN of more than 30 years and having cared for hundreds of patients with PD throughout those years, this was the diagnosis that I personally came to some months ago. I’m perplexed by Broom’s above comment and do not find it believable. The facts alone substantiate the validity of this video, in my opinion.
broom Said:
Really?
I am a physician who treats patients with Parkinson’s. Hillary does not have Parkinson’s disease. That head-bobbing was just a humorous gesture in response to a funny question from a reporter. There is no sign of Parkinson’s. She has many faults, but Parkinson’s is not one of them.