Ted Belman. All candidates were at pains to demonstrate their love of Israel. It was too much for Ann Coulter who tweeted “How many f—ing Jews do these people think there are in the United States?”. Most wanted to rip up the Iran deal. But no one even mentioned the Bush letter of ’04 which Obama trashed. No one mentioned the Obama’s parameters of the ’67 lines plus swaps and a divided Jerusalem. We must make certain that in the next debate these are central issues including the commitment to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem.
Presidential candidates from the US Republican Party participated on Wednesday night in their second televised debate ahead of November 2016 elections.
Candidates were splintered on how to deal with the Iranian nuclear agreement, with some promising to cancel it immediately if elected and others calling to monitor Iran’s behavior before taking action.
Texas Sen. Ted Cruz pledged to “rip to shreds this catastrophic Iranian nuclear deal” on his first day in office, along with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and former H-P CEO Carly Fiorina.
Other candidates, including former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, former Ohio Gov. John Kasich and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, were more non-committal about plans for the deal.
Arguing, “it’s not a strategy to tear up an agreement,” Bush advocated, instead, for improving US strategy and strengthening ties between the United States and Israel.
“The first thing that we need to do is to establish our commitment to Israel which has been altered by this administration,” Bush said. “And, make sure that they have the most sophisticated weapons to send a signal to Iran that we have Israel’s back. If we do that, it’s going to create a healthier deterrent effect than anything else I can think of.”
Fiorina came out even stronger in support of the Jewish state, promising her first phone call as president would be to Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu.
“On day one in the oval office, I will make two phone calls. The first to my good friend Bibi Netanyahu to reassure him we will stand with the State of Israel,” she vowed. “The second to the Supreme Leader.”
In her conversation with Iran’s supreme leader, Fiorina asserted, she would demand the Islamic Republic open up every military and nuclear facility “anytime, anywhere” for inspections by “our people, not his.”
Should Iran not agree, Fiorina promised to make Iran’s participation in global financial markets as “difficult as possible,” thereby showing every one of the US’ allies and adversaries that “America is back in the leadership business.”
Other hot button issues discussed in the debate were Iraq, funding to Planned Parenthood and immigration.
HAARETZ REPORTED:
Controversial conservative pundit Ann Coulter posted a series of arguably anti-Semitic tweets at the tail end of Wednesday night’s Republican debate, accusing the candidates of pandering to Jewish voters, including one posing the hypothetical question of: “How many f—ing Jews do these people think there are in the United States?”
Coulter, who has 660,000 Twitter followers, was reacting to the frequent mentions of Israel made by participants in the second televised Republican debate held Wednesday at the Ronald Reagan Library in California.
She first tweeted criticism of former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, Florida Senator Marco Rubio and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie’s support for Israel when answering the question “What will AMERICA [emphasis her’s] look like after you are president?”, asking “How many f—ing Jews do these people think there are in the United States?” She also wrote: “Good Grief, Huckabee is running for prime minister of Israel.”
Coulter, who has expressed support for the candidacy of Donald Trump, then proceeded to posit that the candidates may just be trying to “suck up to the Evangelicals.”
Coulter concluded her Twitter-storm by offering “How to get applause from GOP donors: 1) Pledge to start a war 2) Talk about job creators 3) Denounce abortion 4) Cite Reagan 5) Cite Israel.”
Coulter has previously come under fire for alleged anti-Semitism. In a 2007 interview on CNBC’s “The Big Idea,” Coulter told Jewish host Donny Deutsch that she wants her dream America to be completely Christian, and that she wanted “Jews to be perfected, as they say,” referring to Jews being converted to Christianity.
Sorry, bubby, but Nazi is the German acronym for National Socialist. Hitler believed in centralized government control of society. He was a leftist.
And no one is defending Coulter. But if the Chosen’s biggest problem were Gentiles who support Israel, we would be in pretty good shape.
I notice that many pro-Israel people cannot distinguish between the Jewish-Israeli cause and the rightist ideological cause, although they are actually quite separate. As a result, they feel they have to explain away or rationalize antisemitism on the right. Since the leftists have decided to become our enemies, these pro-Israel people assume that all rightists must be our friends. But remember–Hitler was a rightist, too. As Netanyahu pointed out in his address to Congress, sometimes the enemy of our enemy is just another enemy.
@ ArnoldHarris:
I love the way Trump took an aggressive posture on this “Obama is a Muslim” contrived media controversy. Now the corrupt liberal media is condemning Republicans for what they don’t say. Unlike McCain and Romney, DT did not respond to the media harpies by melting like the Wicked Witch Of The West. Unlike Jeb and Lindsay and Christie, he did not dance to CNN’s tune. He said, “It is not my job to defend Obama.”
Damn straight.
speaking of anti semites
HMMMM, not really…. looks like they are trying to avoid legal issues with a new wording.
I wager that the mayor and council are incompetently running their city, or stealing funds, and need a scapegoat red herring to distract from their endeavors. Hence, the classic scapegoat.
Hello, Babushka.
I’m too busy to pay attention either to the nits or nitpickers of blogdom. I think you do the same and stick to your viewpoint; I’ve been doing that most of my 81 years.
By the way, for whatever it’s worth. I’m supporting Donald Trump for president. He is the only candidate for next year’s presidential race who does the following.
1) Identifies and ranks the importance of national problems.
2) Comes up with a no-bullshit solutions to those problema.
3) Runs a candidacy without need of a conniving pack of real or would-be television or print journalists.
4) Gives short, concise answers to questions, with no need for teleprompters and small armies of political advisors.
5) Laughs off political correctness, which I regard as a contemporary social disease.
6) Stands a good chance of busting up the present two-party chokehold on politics in this country.
7) Is not a member of any of the recent presidential families.
8) Has a lot of experience with starting and completing projects.
9) Comes close to Harry Truman’s slogan that the buck stops at his deak.
10) Takes crap from nobody.
11) Puts his money where his mouth is.
Arnold Harris, Outspeaker
@ ArnoldHarris:
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Hey, Arnold: rsklaroff accused me of being “tangential” earlier in the thread. Stop trying to horn in on my action. I am the tangential one around here. Insofar as being “incoherent” is concerned, that is just rsklaroff engaging in projection.
I don’t want Gentiles converting to Judaism. I want Jews In Name Only converting out of Judaism. This is not a numbers game. The Chosen People are supposed to be representing God, and that requires being faithful to the Scriptures, not inflating the membership rolls.
@ ArnoldHarris:
Why? Looking to start another Yom Kippur war? Two wrongs make it right?
I rather focus on what’s ahead for US.
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qKQkQlxR-8&w=640&h=360%5D
[tangential and incoherent]
@ rsklaroff:
So whose fault is it that in the free and open marketplace of ideas, ideals, and beliefs, we Jews do not reciprocate by raiding the tents of the same Christianity that has more or less openly and endlessly attempted to chip away loose parts of the Jewish nation? Especially here in the USA, anybody is free to affiliate with anything, anybody that will have them, and everything that passes as a religion. In this modern and totally unique battle for souls, people are openly free even to worship homosexuality. And yes, I do indeed think that rampant queerdom is as much a religion as a set of biological accidents.
So why not focus on enlisting the best of America’s Christian breeds into the original house of Father Avraham, the first human being cited in history as having experienced a direct set of commands from the master of the universe? And yes, I am acquainted with the various arguments posed by Jewish religious authorities to cause our Jewish nation to evade taking advantage of such opportunities that any healthy nation needs in order to survive. But I think those arguments represent nothing more than the rationalities of fearful and quavering religious minorities. To hell with all that. Let’s go proselytize for converts to Judaism, and let’s do it honestly and openly.
Arnold Harris, Outspeaker
claiming she wants to change Judaism reflects intolerance; Jews do not reciprocate.
@ rsklaroff:
Perhaps you ought to ask yourself why Ann Coulter should be expected to respect Judaism any more than you and I, along with millions of other Jews, should respect Christianity.
My own deep-seated view of Christianity, both as a student of ancient Greek and Roman history, and as a modern American, and as one of the minority of Jews in this country whose household makes an authentic Shabat home religious service every Friday evening, is that it is a cult of death which proceeded to coat real Judaism with multiple layers of their Greek Olympian gods.
So why should I blame Ms Coulter, who holds all that to be gospel truth, respect my beliefs or yours?
I do not beg love from anybody, and I am not interested in being understood either by non-Jews or by the Jewish traitors to the Jewish nation and the Jewish state who infest so much of the life of the United States of America. All I want from those faked-up Jews is to get the fuck out of my way.
Arnold Harris, Outspeaker
I respect the above-writer, but it’s replete with rationalizations.
When she wants Jews to “complete” their religion by adhering to Jesus, she is thrusting her faith upon others; this isn’t as bad, obviously, as Islamism…but it’s BAD.
Her Hollywood-Reporter rationalization [“pandering”] is as transparent as was Trump’s reference to Carly’s face/persona; she is replete with deceit, and failed to apologize even for the possibility of misperception [taking a page from Trump, behaviorally].
Use of the F-word reflected her deeply-seeded attitude, emerging a third time during this decade; it’s inexcusable and it poisons her other otherwise potent output [and, perhaps, explains her deviations to Romney and Christie].
If she truly respected Judaism, she would repent by Yom Kippur.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ann-coulter-calls-fury-jewish-824476
I’ve been a hardcore Jewish American right-winger since my high school years in Chicago in the late 1940s and early 1950s. That means I never ever voted for a Democrat for the US presidency. It means I have spent a lifetime avoiding social contact with Jewish liberals. I picked up the formalities of Jewish religion from my late father and from the Lubavitchers; Stefi and I were married by an Orthodox Jewish rav; and I learned my Zionism from the martyred Rav Meir Kahane, for whom I worked for the last three years of his life, and from Dr Yisrael Eldad of Lehi fame. And my wife and I took the time to spend about 1.5 years in Israel studying at one of the country’s great universities. So all that sets the stage for my comment here.
I do not regard Ann Coulter as an enemy of the Jewish nation and certainly not of the Jewish state, irrespective of a comment which was quoted out of context by some of the garbage collectors of journalism who now compete with one another to undercut not only the existence of the Jewish state but also the future of the Jewish nation.
Does Ms Coulter consider Judaism to represent her own view of human relationships with her Presbyterian Christian concept of their deity? Of course not, any more than my wife and I allow anything to do with Presbyterian Christianity to play any role whatsoever in our lives.
But most importantly, she is an active enemy of the same forces that threaten the life of Israel and the future of our Jewish nation.
As for her use of “fucking” as an adjective or adverb rather than as a verb, this has long been an admittedly impolite but nevertheless universal usage in most known languages. If you think this sounds bad in English, you ought to listen to what my wife Stefi says about just this kind of universality of language. Stefi, by the way holds a graduate degree in anthropology and archaeology and she knows more about historical linguistics than anyone else I ever have encountered. How many people do any of you know about who has been teaching herself Sanskrit for the past few years?
In any case, that is the way people talk, and it does not necessarily imply anti-Semitism.
But read what she had to say to the Hollywood Reporter about this incident, and don’t rush to judgment.
Arnold Harris, Outspeaker
@ Underzog:This Christian dogma is a main part of classic Christian anti-Semtic dogma. Pick you poison on what you find acceptable anti-Semitism and grade it?
It is appropriate that a bird-brain .such as Ann Coulter should leave such a tweet.
watsa, that’s no justification
She is pissed off by the liberal Jews! Me too!
@ Bear Klein:I think eff the Jews is worse than feeling that Jews must convert. Jews “needing to be perfected” is standard Christian dogma and less offensive than us being regarded as Christ killers. Incidentally, the Ayatollah Khamenie says the Republican debaters catered to “the Zionists.” Maybe Ann Coulter will suggest the Ayatollah Khamenie can be Trump’s vice presidential running mate as Donald Trump is Ann Coulter’s favorite candidate.
@ Underzog:
Coulter is a dilettante chucklehead who spent 2014 insisting that making McConnell Senate Majority Leader would neuter Obama. Prior to that, she exalted Christie as savior. This year, she begged Romney to run again. Coulter is basically an inebriated homeless person howling at the moon, which makes it hard to worry too much about her animus towards Jews.
Know thy true enemy. Jeb Bush’s foreign policy guru is James “Fuck The Jews” Baker. Fear that daunting fact because Baker sincerely means it, whereas Coulter doesn’t mean anything.
Megyn was quite polite, even as the tweets had been emitted only an hour prior; i’d say we won’t be hearing from her much more, eh?
@ Underzog:
Read the link on my #18 comment above she has been a classic Christian type anti-Semite for a long time stating Jews need to convert to Christianity and much more back in 2007.
The key-message here is that there was a reason why she was excluded from CPAC a few years ago, and that reason should live on WITHOUT impugning the conservative movement.
@ Ted Belman:There is a lot of egg on my face since I have always defended Ann Coulter — even with the risk of injury:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkZSf6rlhZw I almost feel betrayed. It is Ann Coulter’s fault that she supported a turkey such as Romney not the Jews’ fault. I noticed she became more anti-Semitic after that and all my defenses of her seemed like the actions of a lovesick dupe 🙁
REPEATEDLY!
@ Bear Klein:
There is a difference between satire that shocks the reader and full-throated hate. Ann Coulter has brazenly crossed that line.
@ oldjerry:
Good point. Israel’s government f*cks Jews every day on the Temple Mount at the behest of Edom and Arabia.
Until I acted [see #10 supra], I’d enjoyed her works [such as “Godless”]; since then, however, I have continued to find justification to reject her [recalling for example her embrace of Christie].
http://http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/10/11/columnist-ann-coulter-shocks-cable-tv-show-declaring-jews-need-to-be-perfected.html See link this was in 2007 Coulter is an anti-Semite from way back! She is not bashful about her views and has a following of racists, immigrant haters including some in the GOP (not meaning that all or most in the GOP are this way).
Why bash Ann Coulter for saying f—k the Jews when we have an Israeli government doing the same by constantly persecuting Jews for non crimes while allowing Arabs to literally get away with murder.
Ann Coulter is a transgender male.
An oft-repeated promise oft broken.
This unreasonable reader also appreciates your perspective. Thank you for your perspective.
I stand on my comment and choose not to clarify/engage with you; it is assumed the reasonable reader appreciates my perspective and, thus, the danger of dismissing Coulter.
Okay, let’s kill her. I am simply suggesting that she is insignificant and my self-esteem is not reliant on acceptance from Gentiles. Who gives a shit about her?
All commentary except yours is tangential – only yours is epicentral. And I support Cruz because he truly “loves” Israel.
fungible
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adjective, Law.
1.
(especially of goods) being of such nature or kind as to be freely exchangeable or replaceable, in whole or in part, for another of like nature or kind.
My go-to guy in these circumstances is Inigo Montoya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wujVMIYzYXg
I don’t trust the underpinnings of her support for Israel and, thus, it’s unwise to allow ANYTHING to “slide.”
Reference to Nixon/McGovern is tangential, for it is vital to ensure the GOP-nominee TRULY “loves” Israel.
“Support” for Israel is fungible and, thus, must be as deep-seated as possible.
She is an anti-Semitic buffoon who supports Israel. So was Nixon. I’ll take their support for Israel and let the rest slide because McGovern was no Jew hater, but had he won in 1972 Israel would not exist.
I do not seek love from Gentiles. Just support Israel and that will do.
She is a malignancy and, after the DD-escapade, I shut-off receiving her Human Events columns; she is smart and, thus, claiming her quote was related to “pandering” was too lame [when compared with her expert writings] to be credible.
Liberal crapola. I am in the far right wing of the GOP, and our candidates are Cruz (Hispanic) and Carson (black). Save the defamatory fascistic smears for your RINO brethren.
Coulter is never to be taken seriously. She is a carnival barker whose goal is to gain attention irrespective of whether it is favorable or negative. She passionately opposes illegal immigration while passionately supporting candidates who are pro-illegal immigration. There is no there there.
The subtext to this story is that Coulter has become stale and finds it increasingly difficult to gain invitations onto cable news. She needed some buzz, so she acted out and now is being noticed.
I view her as being a substandard lounge act in Vegas, and will save my outrage for anti-Semites who matter…like the one in the Oval Office. Coulter is a benign irrelevancy.
And if the United States were a democracy, that might actually matter. As it is, the Senate just voted to supply Israel’s nemesis with the means to annihilate Jews.
The GOP candidates are very interested in the Pro Israel crowd which are largely millions of Evangelical Christians.
Ann Coulter does have a following in the far right racist element of the GOP. So she should be called out for her clearly anti-Semitic comment.
Fiorina did well in the debate. I love her comment about calling Bibi on the first day in the White House.
Trump maybe ahead and may even win the GOP nomination but he knows nothing of foreign policy and would be learning on the job. Who knows what he is for except building a WALL and having Mexico pay for it. Great showman but…….
@ Ted Belman:
The American people’s affection for Israel is unique. No other country has such a positive view of the Jewish State. Obama’s hostility to Israel is hugely unpopular; few people support his Iran nuclear deal.
Israel has made its case quite well to the American people.
Most Americans are philosemitic. Ann Coulter’s view is decidedly a minority one.
Liberal American Jews by and far are not pro-Israel. Its American Christians who are passionately pro-Israel.
Apart from attacking the wrong people, Coulter failed to realize Jews have little relevance in Republican politics to its pro-Israel view.
This is where America is dramatically different from Europe.
Ted’s observation was totally correct; I heard it, also, and she didn’t equivocate.
Megyn Kelly interviewed her after her twitter and gave her the opportunity to “walk it back”. Coulter declined.
pssssst…most Gentiles are anti-Semitic. I don’t want to marry her. I just want her to support Israel, which she does. On the anti-Semitic scale of one to ten (ten being Hitler), she is a two. She poses zero threat, so let her resent Jews. Worry about the action-oriented anti-Semites, not the schlubs.
Ann Coulter is basically a racist of the first order. That she is also anti-Semitic is no surprise.